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[Guest Skeptic]

RE: Relationships With Escorts

 

The horror. . . the horror. . .

 

I have no words to express the pity I feel for both Riz & Will. No advice, no warning (however diplomatically couched) seems to turn Riz from his ruinous course. No insights (even those his own pain gave him) seem to console Will.

 

As Paul so rightly and slyly hinted, the last thing either of them needs is a Cosmo piece on "How I Kept My Marriage Together with Perks of Being Self-Employed" from the Martha Stewart of whoredom.

 

Since Daddy is perfectly right in saying that advice need not be sought to be offered around here, I know he won't mind my suggesting that any further excerpts from soon-to-be published best sellers be kept to a minimum on this already overburdened board. (Or just left in the advice column, where they can be more easily ignored.)

 

Will, just last week you were shown again that Wagner's stupefying drama of the evil inherent in materialism and power-seeking doesn't really come to a love-conquers-all finale, however gloriously the music suggests it does. The real truth--and the reason why 'Tristan' erupted when it did--is that RW finally saw that sexual love is a 'frightful torment,' and every bit as destructive as power. 'Parsifal' proposes a few ways out the this dilemma: consorting with prostitutes AYOR, or total celibacy. I, like most everyone here, am not yet ready for the second option.

[Will]

RE: Relationships With Escorts

 

I never said I wasn't an opera queen. And I never met an opera queen who could always tell the difference between life and art. Just last week I was choking back tears for the umpteenth time through the first scene of the second act of "Traviata;" and if you think that's bad you should have sat next to me during "Siegfried," despite the gelatinous Miss Eaglen's blank-faced indifference to what Wagner was having Wotan sing to her. (Apparently, Mr. Morris was with me on that one, as he is reported to have stormed around backstage shouting about having to sing with that "f***ing fat soprano.")

 

"Vissi d'arte" aside, I fully and most heartily agree with you, Skeptic, that Eros is a naughty boy but that life is infinitely duller without him. I do think I said in the first post that I wouldn't have done without this experience, and I wouldn't. Furthermore, there was no harm done here. I'm just disappointed and feel lousy about it, that's all. But I'll feel better soon. As for celibacy, frankly, it is a lot easier for me to manage within the exigencies of my life. But it's just for that reason that I've begun experimenting with alternatives to the normal alternative to celibacy, which is marriage/relationship. In the event this old dog is not altogether certain that he can learn new tricks. His joints complain and it makes him cranky to have to be flexible in unaccustomed ways. So that hurts on top of the other aches and pains of love's outrageous fortunes. But this old dog will get over it, thanks in no small measure to your wisdom and humor and not-so-skeptical compassion.

[Guest Rizsauvage]

RE: Relationships With Escorts

 

Question to Aaron's boyfriend : Did it ever make your mind wonder if you couldn't get reach him? Does it ever bother you, "what if he meets someone cuter, younger, and rich" while on the job?

 

Did you ever talk about his clients? Want to know about them?

 

Did you ever send anonymous emails posing as clients to your boyfriend? Hoping to find out if he does certain things when your boyfriend promised you that ne would never do such things?

 

Did you ever confront him on such issues?

Did he ever know that it was you who sent them?

[Guest Rizsauvage]

RE: Relationships With Escorts

 

Question to Aaron's boyfriend : Did it ever make your mind wonder if you couldn't get reach him? Does it ever bother you, "what if he meets someone cuter, younger, and rich" while on the job?

Did you ever talk about his clients? Want to know about them?

 

Did you ever send anonymous emails posing as clients to your boyfriend? Hoping to find out if he does certain things when your boyfriend promised you that ne would never do such things?

 

Did you ever confront him on such issues?

Did he ever know that it was you who sent them?

[Guest Skeptic]

RE: Relationships With Escorts

 

Wild One--allow me, ever so gently, to ask if this posting to Aaron's 'husband,' Jeff is:

 

(a) pure inquiry

(b) a list of things you have in mind to do

© an oblique confession that you've already done them

 

If ©, what were the results?

[Rod Hagen]

RE: Relationships With Escorts

 

My boyfriend's discovery that I was an escort was a relief to him. He felt much less insecure about the possibility of me replacing him during and instance of casual sex he knew I was having, if most of the time it occured on the clock. He never stop criticizing this "cheesy porn" name I have chosen for myself, as well as my amateurish website. I appreciate his critical sarcasm, that's one of the biggest reasons I love him.

 

He is now the repositore of all information regarding where I am going and whom I am doing when I travel. This also allowed me to leave my engineering job sooner than I planned, because I no longer had to pre-plan excuses about the source of my continued income. My confession to him, following his sighting of me and a wonderful client at Mortons, has been a big relief to us both. -Hagen

[Guest paulnyc]

RE: Relationships With Escorts

 

It's hard for me to imagine how two people can really be in love and have a committed relationship while one has sex with hundreds of other men, either for pay or for free. I'm not condeming it, but only saying I guess I'm too old fashioned to understand how it is possible. Maybe it's easier between a male prostitute and his love than it would be for a man to let his wife go out and prostitute herself to hundreds of other men.

[Boston Guy]

RE: Relationships With Escorts - is 'prostitute' pejorative?

 

I find the word 'prostitute' in this context pejorative -- you seem to have purposely substituted it for 'escort'. Did you intend it to be pejorative?

 

Am I alone in this perception? Or do others out there share it?

[Guest YR]

RE: Relationships With Escorts - is 'prostitute' pejorative?

 

While I understand your dismay at the word "prostitute", let's not forget that if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, sounds like a duck ...... umm, well, you get the pictue. Maybe we can work on a definition of "escort" that doesn't even smell like a duck :-)

[Bilbo]

RE: Relationships With Escorts - is 'prostitute' pejorative?

 

Paul - One is either an open or a closed relationship kind of person. You are not the first closed relationship kind of person whom I have heard say that they cannot imagine (variant: those who claim it doesn't really exist) an open relationship. I won't urge you to have one yourself. In fact, I would warn you against trying to have one. Please just accept the fact that for many people, escorts or not, it works better this way. St. Paul, I'm thinking Romans here, says that what is a sin for one person is not necessarily a sin for another person, but that it would be a sin for someone for whom it is not a sin to tempt someone for whom it is a sin to do it. Talking about dietary laws, he says basically that he has come to the conclusion that there is nothing good or bad but thinking makes it so.

You also might be comforted to know that things are never as extreme as we can imagine them to be. Think back on what you thought about bath houses before you went into one for the first time. In this case, unless you are talking about the cumulative effect of years, and bearing in mind the high prices they charge and the fact that a growing number of them limit themselves to no more than one client a day (if they get that), (and of course how do you factor in repeat clients?) I sincerely think that you envision an escort getting many more clients than he actually does.

[Rod Hagen]

RE: Relationships With Escorts - is 'prostitute' pejorative?

 

LAST EDITED ON May-26-00 AT 10:30AM (EST)[p]*Some escorts see 1-3 guys a day, 3-4 days a week. Some go overboard.

 

*The idea that indulging a horny impulse to sleep with a stranger necessarily negates you commitment towards or feelings for your wife/husband is long standing. Please be patient with those who still hold it. Rome can not be taken down in a day.

 

*Let's not turn this into a Escort vs. Prostitute debate. Skeptic is already going to have to race to catch up after his monday-return. Lets not over work him.

[Traveller]

RE: Relationships With Escorts - is 'prostitute' pejorative?

 

Paul,

It's the 21st Century, not the 18th (altho I did have a great time then in the last days of the Sun King's court). Read - you're too old fashioned. Remember, you're also dealing with an animal called a male human, which unlike a male Canada goose, rarely mates with only one other person for life.

 

And, sorry Hagen, regarding using the word "prostitute," I'm surprised you didn't throw in an occasional "whore," "tramp" or "tart." Altho "trollop" is also a fine substitute. Old fashioned - at best. Pejorative - probably. Tacky - absolutely.

 

Later.

[Rod Hagen]

RE: Relationships With Escorts - is 'prostitute' pejorative?

 

How about "Harlot", giggle giggle, or "Slag", snicker snicker, or "skank", or...are we done yet?

[Rod Hagen]

RE: Relationships With Escorts

 

> Can someone tolerate the

>uncertain hours and the type

>of work of an escort?

> Generally not

This section of your book, "Hustlers, Porn Stars and Escorts", was equally puzzling to me. I was quite able to balance my now 2.5 year relationship with my boyfriend, a full time job, and escorting. Also, I managed to keep it from him for a full year. Yet I NEVER let it interfere with our time together, and I still don't. If I am in bed with him and someone calls at 3am (assuming I was too stupid to disconnect the phone) do I

A. jump out of bed and take the call and then leave my boyfriend of nearly 3 years for a one hour trick in the middle of the night.

B. let the machine take it, apologize to boyfriend for interruption of sleep or sex, return the call first thing in the morning when my mind is clear, joke with the client about "horny impulses in the middle of the night" schedule an appointment with him for some other evening at a specific, and reasonable time, and finally give him a much better experience and keep my boyfriend happy, while getting sufficient sleep?

 

I choose option B. Escorts, don't let your profession scare you away from pursuing a relationship. With only a moducum of effort, it's easily done.

 

> Most people have 8-5 jobs and

>quite frankly really have no

>clue about what it takes

>to run any business let

>alone the escort business.

 

Running a business as an escort is so challenging? To paraphrase John Preston: "You need a phone, an ad, (a day planner), an appartment and/or car, and an addiction to sex." This is so hard? Sure it might be too much for some people, but their are lots of slackers for whom being a parking attendant is too taxing. I fail to understand why people in the sex industry exaggerate what's involved. What's to be gained by doing so?

 

Let me reveal my secret, this is how I, a full time escort, spend my day: I sleep till 8am, I workout till 11am, I then either bring the cell phone to the beach to surf (sometimes earlier, depending on conditions), or Laguna and Mountain Bike for a few hours, or climb at the climbing gym in West LA, or just sit with friends at the WeHo Starbucks, or enter piss and hiss fits with skeptic here on the board. I return or take phone calls and emails along the way, and then I meet clients at the appointed times. It's that simple. And I absolutely love it.