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I'm sorry, but that makes no sense. Based on the portion of the texts you showed us, it's clear that James arrived a mere 13 minutes early, asked if he should come now or wait until your original 11:30 appointment, and you then told him to "come now". He did exactly as he was told, and then you didn't show up for apparently the second time. You next contacted him a full 15 minutes later with a BS excuse that you were brushing your teeth. Literally no one takes that long just to brush their teeth. If you needed the extra time you should have just told him to stick to the original 11:30 appointment time. Plus, it's winter now, and you shouldn't expect someone to wait outside in the cold while you take your time after you'd just told them to come now. Once you did that, it was only reasonable for him to expect you to arrive immediately, not 15 minutes later.

 

It is absolutely not believable that you thought that James was asking about leaving to come to your Brooklyn home from Manhattan, when he texted you only 13 minutes before your original 11:30 appt to ask if he should come now or wait until 11:30. If James really was asking about leaving from Manhattan, why would he ask about coming now or at 11:30, when it was already 11:17 when he texted you? Sure, there are some parts of Brooklyn that one can reach within 15 minutes from Manhattan. But no one would be asking about coming now or at 11:30 for an 11:30 appt, if he was still a minimum of 15 minutes away and it was already 11:17 at the time they asked you.

 

It's clear that you made up a bad excuse to cover for the fact that you lost track of time for the second time to this escort's detriment, and you then got offended when he decided to cut his losses with you. You owe the man several apologies: for wasting his time on both appointments, and then badmouthing him on this thread when he was the victim of your poor time management. You can also throw in another apology for chiming in on that other thread about James to say that you had a negative experience with him, when everything on this thread has established that you were entirely in the wrong, and it was you who inflicted multiple negative experiences upon him.

 

Thank you for taking the time to say exactly what I was thinking. This poster is either completely disingenuous or..... the other option is not very flattering.

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But why would I make him drive all the way over here to just play Around with him?

 

I understand his time is precious. But if so then dock our session. Shorten our time.

 

That makes no sense.

 

I’m sorry there is a reason why he does not have 5 stars on Rent Men.

 

Again builder we all have our issues with a specific escort.

 

Entitled nonsense. Still making excuses, and why I say escorts need our own forum where we can review clients. Clients here have routinely ruined escorts' business with badmouthing and one-sidedness, and thank goodness there was someone here to flesh out the whole picture.

 

"Why would I him drive all the way over here to just play around with him?" Like it hasn't been done before lol You wasted this dude's time, not once, but TWICE. Was he supposed to come around a THIRD time and wait in New York winter cold AGAIN to try to find out if you were legit and not playing games? Get over yourself.

 

You lied about the amount of the deposit, claiming it was $100 when it was really $75.

You lied by omission failing to note you'd already made him wait in freezing cold rain.

You lied by omission failing to note you threatened the dude with bad reviews.

You lied by omission failing to note you harrassed the dude with texting and demands.

You still haven't told the truth about what was happening during the 15 minutes he waited for you a second time. Brushing teeth does not take 15 minutes.

 

Why should anyone trust or believe you? In a fair and just world, escorts would be writing reviews telling other escorts to steer cleer of you. I'm sure James XL is not perfect -- nobody is -- but you *really* need to check yourself. There's a reason why lots of guys don't have all five star reviews. Sometimes it's because they're not five star escorts. Other times it's because of rude, arrogant, dishonest clients.

 

There's a reason why James XL took of with $75 dollars of your money, and the reason is you.

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Being so entitled that you think you have the right to decide for others whether waiting in the cold for 15 minutes is a big deal for them or not.

 

Character indeed.

 

I was just in New York for New Years. I know how cold it's been there; more than once my fingertips were frozen solid way more quickly than anticipated on what I thought would be a 20 minute walk, forcing me to call an Uber after ten minutes of walking to finish my trip. No, I'm not waiting around in the cold for anybody for 15 minutes -- let alone freezing rain -- and I don't expect anyone else to do so either. Get over yourselves.

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I am positive the second time he was not at my door.

 

Sorry to say.

 

First encounter I fucked up. Yes and I’ve apoligzed. And feel terrible second time. He was not at my door.

Boy you’re a piece of work. You’re all over the place. Alternating between mea culpa to “he’s a liar and an asshole.” (Paraphrasing and I know you didn’t use those words but that’s the tone). You still think you’re largely in the right. Unbelievable. If I were an escort I’d ask you to pay the full fee non refundable in advance to ever book an appt.

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I am positive the second time he was not at my door.

 

Sorry to say.

 

First encounter I fucked up. Yes and I’ve apoligzed. And feel terrible second time. He was not at my door.

 

Even more B.S. You cannot truthfully state, with any reasonable degree of certainty, that James "was not at my door." Why? Because you were brushing your teeth for 15 freaking minutes after you told someone to "come now" rather than wait 12 minutes until the original time you'd agreed to meet. Since you never went down in a timely manner to retrieve your guest, you cannot possibly know whether he was there at 11:17 when he texted you, 11:18 when you responded, or within a few minutes after that. All you know is that he wasn't there at 11:33 when you texted him asking where he was.

 

The notion that a professional (or anyone, really) should wait around for 15 minutes late at night in the dead of a New York winter, and then just proceed with an appointment and discount the time that you made him freeze outside in an unfamiliar neighborhood, all while he looked like a loiterer, lest he reveal (according to you and one other poster) poor character, displays such a lack of consideration, arrogance, and entitlement. The very fact that you stubbornly insist that you're in the right, here, is proof positive of this.

 

I'm not a cheerleader for James. I've never met or spoken with him, nor am I into muscle worship. So, he's not the kind of guy I'm typically into, or that I'd hire. I have no horse in this race, so to speak. This is just about right and wrong, and you, sir, are entirely in the wrong.

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But why would I make him drive all the way over here to just play Around with him?

 

I understand his time is precious. But if so then dock our session. Shorten our time.

 

That makes no sense.

 

I’m sorry there is a reason why he does not have 5 stars on Rent Men.

 

Again builder we all have our issues with a specific escort.

My issue is with a three time no show. You screwed James.

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At the risk of beating an already dead horse, you have to also realise that your excuse makes no logical sense. If you said yes to "come now" instead of him arriving at the prescheduled time of 12 mins later, it doesnt take a genius to figure out that means he expected to be in advance of 11.30, otherwise why ask you? Also, how dirty are your teeth it took you 15 minutes to brush them......really? Am guessing he was lucky he left

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guys..... we all realize that the Dr should and could have done better...and he even said so. my question to all of you is this....isnt it a little sketchy that a person for any reason whatsoever that drives 45 minutes and texts "can i come now", doesnt send at least one more text in a 15 minute time span before turning around and driving another 45 minutes? Please dont defend this as well. you all know the answer would and should be a resounding "yes". if your boss gives you $75 to deliver the money to someone and says to you "if he doesnt respond then you keep the money", you drive, text "can i come over now" and then wait a few minutes and gleefully pack back up without sending another text that you are here. i am on both sides of this matter. please dont glorify the escorts efforts as back breaking to get into the session. it just didnt happen on his part as well.

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guys..... we all realize that the Dr should and could have done better...and he even said so. my question to all of you is this....isnt it a little sketchy that a person for any reason whatsoever that drives 45 minutes and texts "can i come now", doesnt send at least one more text in a 15 minute time span before turning around and driving another 45 minutes? Please dont defend this as well. you all know the answer would and should be a resounding "yes". if your boss gives you $75 to deliver the money to someone and says to you "if he doesnt respond then you keep the money", you drive, text "can i come over now" and then wait a few minutes and gleefully pack back up without sending another text that you are here. i am on both sides of this matter. please dont glorify the escorts efforts as back breaking to get into the session. it just didnt happen on his part as well.

No I don't see it that way at all, and clearly nor does anyone else. We all know what occurred.

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guys..... we all realize that the Dr should and could have done better...and he even said so. my question to all of you is this....isnt it a little sketchy that a person for any reason whatsoever that drives 45 minutes and texts "can i come now", doesnt send at least one more text in a 15 minute time span before turning around and driving another 45 minutes? Please dont defend this as well. you all know the answer would and should be a resounding "yes". if your boss gives you $75 to deliver the money to someone and says to you "if he doesnt respond then you keep the money", you drive, text "can i come over now" and then wait a few minutes and gleefully pack back up without sending another text that you are here. i am on both sides of this matter. please dont glorify the escorts efforts as back breaking to get into the session. it just didnt happen on his part as well.

You are aware this was the second time this client had wasted his time? so no, I don't think it is 'sketchy" at all.

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I'm sorry, but that makes no sense. Based on the portion of the texts you showed us, it's clear that James arrived a mere 13 minutes early, asked if he should come now or wait until your original 11:30 appointment, and you then told him to "come now". He did exactly as he was told, and then you didn't show up for apparently the second time. You next contacted him a full 15 minutes later with a BS excuse that you were brushing your teeth. Literally no one takes that long just to brush their teeth. If you needed the extra time you should have just told him to stick to the original 11:30 appointment time. Plus, it's winter now, and you shouldn't expect someone to wait outside in the cold while you take your time after you'd just told them to come now. Once you did that, it was only reasonable for him to expect you to arrive immediately, not 15 minutes later.

 

It is absolutely not believable that you thought that James was asking about leaving to come to your Brooklyn home from Manhattan, when he texted you only 13 minutes before your original 11:30 appt to ask if he should come now or wait until 11:30. If James really was asking about leaving from Manhattan, why would he ask about coming now or at 11:30, when it was already 11:17 when he texted you? Sure, there are some parts of Brooklyn that one can reach within 15 minutes from Manhattan. But no one would be asking about coming now or at 11:30 for an 11:30 appt, if he was still a minimum of 15 minutes away and it was already 11:17 at the time they asked you.

 

It's clear that you made up a bad excuse to cover for the fact that you lost track of time for the second time to this escort's detriment, and you then got offended when he decided to cut his losses with you. You owe the man several apologies: for wasting his time on both appointments, and then badmouthing him on this thread when he was the victim of your poor time management. You can also throw in another apology for chiming in on that other thread about James to say that you had a negative experience with him, when everything on this thread has established that you were entirely in the wrong, and it was you who inflicted multiple negative experiences upon him.

 

Agreed. And if you don't want people "still going on about this", you shouldn't have started this ridiculous post.

 

Dr.Mavin if you want what now appears to have become an endless ridiculous thread TO END you need to shut the fuck up and stop being bated into responding.

 

All excellent points. For the third or fourth time in my 53 years on the planet I cannot think of anything to add.

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guys..... we all realize that the Dr should and could have done better...and he even said so. my question to all of you is this....isnt it a little sketchy that a person for any reason whatsoever that drives 45 minutes and texts "can i come now", doesnt send at least one more text in a 15 minute time span before turning around and driving another 45 minutes? Please dont defend this as well. you all know the answer would and should be a resounding "yes". if your boss gives you $75 to deliver the money to someone and says to you "if he doesnt respond then you keep the money", you drive, text "can i come over now" and then wait a few minutes and gleefully pack back up without sending another text that you are here. i am on both sides of this matter. please dont glorify the escorts efforts as back breaking to get into the session. it just didnt happen on his part as well.

Simple answer to your question is: no.

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guys..... we all realize that the Dr should and could have done better...and he even said so. my question to all of you is this....isnt it a little sketchy that a person for any reason whatsoever that drives 45 minutes and texts "can i come now", doesnt send at least one more text in a 15 minute time span before turning around and driving another 45 minutes? Please dont defend this as well. you all know the answer would and should be a resounding "yes". if your boss gives you $75 to deliver the money to someone and says to you "if he doesnt respond then you keep the money", you drive, text "can i come over now" and then wait a few minutes and gleefully pack back up without sending another text that you are here. i am on both sides of this matter. please dont glorify the escorts efforts as back breaking to get into the session. it just didnt happen on his part as well.

 

In the words of the young ones online: GTFOH with that nonsense. When someone's already screwed you over once before, but you give him a 2nd chance anyway, you are under no obligation to bend over backwards to give him the benefit of the doubt when it looks like he's screwed you over yet again. Contrary to what you've said before, that doesn't reflect poorly on James's character. To the contrary, standing up for one's self and not letting others take advantage of you shows strength of character.

 

I probably never would have accepted a 2nd appointment with the not-so-good doctor, but if I had, I'd have waited no more than just a few minutes after he told me to "come now." James gave him 15, which was more than enough. Could he have waited longer? Sure, but he was under no obligation to do so, especially late at night, during winter, and in an unfamiliar neighborhood in a city he doesn't live in. There's a difference between being exceedingly nice, and being a pushover. Under these circumstances it was definitely reasonable for James to conclude that he'd been taken for a ride yet again, given how the doctor acted the first time. Stop with the BS excuses.

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In the words of the young ones online: GTFOH with that nonsense. When someone's already screwed you over once before, but you give him a 2nd chance anyway, you are under no obligation to bend over backwards to give him the benefit of the doubt when it looks like he's screwed you over yet again. Contrary to what you've said before, that doesn't reflect poorly on James's character. To the contrary, standing up for one's self and not letting others take advantage of you shows strength of character.

 

I probably never would have accepted a 2nd appointment with the not-so-good doctor, but if I had, I'd have waited no more than just a few minutes after he told me to "come now." James gave him 15, which was more than enough. Could he have waited longer? Sure, but he was under no obligation to do so, especially late at night, during winter, and in an unfamiliar neighborhood in a city he doesn't live in. There's a difference between being exceedingly nice, and being a pushover. Under these circumstances it was definitely reasonable for James to conclude that he'd been taken for a ride yet again, given how the doctor acted the first time. Stop with the BS excuses.

 

 

Totally agree with this.

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But why would I make him drive all the way over here to just play Around with him?

 

I understand his time is precious. But if so then dock our session. Shorten our time.

 

That makes no sense.

 

I’m sorry there is a reason why he does not have 5 stars on Rent Men.

 

Again builder we all have our issues with a specific escort.

 

Stop. You were an ass. And you continue to trash him. You never met him. And it was all due to your own poor behavior. So just stop. It's both pitiful (you) and spiteful for you to keep degrading James.

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Still makes no sense whatsoever that within that 15 minute time frame the escort would not text again..."where are you I'm here", " I'll give you 2 more minutes to come to the door or I will leave" having driven that time to get there.... and back. Guys if these were two friends and had the same texts we all know the person waiting would have text again. Now c'mon. Truth is it was easier and faster to pocket the money and leave otherwise a deposit would not have been in the picture... character.

 

You're putting too much on the escort to straighten out a situation imposed by the client. The escort showed up, on time, and was put off by the client (indefinitely). No promise of payment for missed time or travel. Just pure expectation.

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Ok Guys I made my viewpoint here. You gentleman that fawn all over these guys so much as to have them at your house for time on end, drive them all over the place etc need to step back and look at your situations. Lonely..maybe. putting way too much trust into a still stranger..absolutely. and if a come back of "oh we are really good friends now" get another life. Stop the money flowing and see what kind if friends you really are. Time will tell guys. Just remember these posts and when an escort seems to breach the line with requests that make you step back and say hmm... Then maybe you will pull back some and listen to your large head and not the small one.

The cheerleaders on here couldn't wait to run to the said escort and tell them about the Dr's remarks here. Has anyone run to the said escort and told him that aa guy that you allegedly stole money from and never gave him what you got the money for wants to meet you face to face? Naw..I thought not. Never gonna happen. Character.

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Ok Guys I made my viewpoint here. You gentleman that fawn all over these guys so much as to have them at your house for time on end, drive them all over the place etc need to step back and look at your situations. Lonely..maybe. putting way too much trust into a still stranger..absolutely. and if a come back of "oh we are really good friends now" get another life. Stop the money flowing and see what kind if friends you really are. Time will tell guys. Just remember these posts and when an escort seems to breach the line with requests that make you step back and say hmm... Then maybe you will pull back some and listen to your large head and not the small one.

The cheerleaders on here couldn't wait to run to the said escort and tell them about the Dr's remarks here. Has anyone run to the said escort and told him that aa guy that you allegedly stole money from and never gave him what you got the money for wants to meet you face to face? Naw..I thought not. Never gonna happen. Character.

James didn’t steel any money it was a deposit to come back and the guy flaked again

He had to pay holland tunnel toll twice to see him plus gas and drive time

I’m sure James has an easier way to make money..gas and tolls maybe $45

So he took the trip twice from nj an hour each

Way 4 hours for 2 trips to make $30

Please James was screwed with plain and

Simple

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Ok Guys I made my viewpoint here. You gentleman that fawn all over these guys so much as to have them at your house for time on end, drive them all over the place etc need to step back and look at your situations. Lonely..maybe. putting way too much trust into a still stranger..absolutely. and if a come back of "oh we are really good friends now" get another life. Stop the money flowing and see what kind if friends you really are. Time will tell guys. Just remember these posts and when an escort seems to breach the line with requests that make you step back and say hmm... Then maybe you will pull back some and listen to your large head and not the small one.

The cheerleaders on here couldn't wait to run to the said escort and tell them about the Dr's remarks here. Has anyone run to the said escort and told him that aa guy that you allegedly stole money from and never gave him what you got the money for wants to meet you face to face? Naw..I thought not. Never gonna happen. Character.

Per usual you know nothing you speak of. I have friendships with guys that I have seen in the past, since early 2000's and trust me "the money stopped flowing" years ago! You may be putting your own experiences on others and frankly that's your issue.

As far as "cheerleaders" I don't see how stating the facts is anything more than seeing right from wrong. James is a good guy and is certainly not dishonest, nor did he steal anything.

You would be better off keep your posts elsewhere as clearly you have no real value to bring to this ridiculous post in the first place

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