What do escorts do after retiring?

[+ tassojunior]

He asked you for sources. He's still waiting. You keep changing your argument to suit your now-deflated original post.

 

Top guys? No. Bit players, yes.

 

'Dearest and best' aren't the guys who use their limited porn scenes to hustle out an hour or two when the end of the month rolls around.

 

If you'd stayed and finished high school you could google better for yourself. Hint: you can start with Sean Cody's Addison in prison for murdering a client, Josh Logan just out on a technicality for murdering a client, Sean Cody's Jarek in prison for blackmailing a client, Sebastian Young awaiting sentencing for attacking police who were investigating another of his wife/child beating incidents, and David Meza just found guilty in San Diego for murdering his rich client thinking he would inherit. These are just the most famous cases of the most high-class escorts that any gay man who reads much has heard of .

 

Sorry if it doesn't fit your assumption that GFP escorts are so virtuous but in a forum like this challenging someone to source every detail and further shouting He's Still Waiting is juvenile behavior that doesn't get anywhere. Gay men have a right to be concerned about escorts who may be violent and discuss it even if some of the gay sites that show all the porn star/escort mug shots may be just prurient (I assume you can look that word up for yourself).

[Kevin Slater]

All this plan B talk and you'd think someone was pregnant.

 

We're still trying.

 

Kevin Slater

[+ freecahill1965]

If you'd stayed and finished high school you could google better for yourself. Hint: you can start with Sean Cody's Addison in prison for murdering a client, Josh Logan just out on a technicality for murdering a client, Sean Cody's Jarek in prison for blackmailing a client, Sebastian Young awaiting sentencing for attacking police who were investigating another of his wife/child beating incidents, and David Meza just found guilty in San Diego for murdering his rich client thinking he would inherit. These are just the most famous cases of the most high-class escorts that any gay man who reads much has heard of .

 

Sorry if it doesn't fit your assumption that GFP escorts are so virtuous but in a forum like this challenging someone to source every detail and further shouting He's Still Waiting is juvenile behavior that doesn't get anywhere. Gay men have a right to be concerned about escorts who may be violent and discuss it even if some of the gay sites that show all the porn star/escort mug shots may be just prurient (I assume you can look that word up for yourself).

I do not disagree with the credibility of some of your statements. I disagree with your generalizations in regards to escorts in general. By your logic, we should be scared of police, politicians, teachers etc. You can find similar information about them across the country as well. Most use this forum to find great escorts to ensure their experiences are good ones. There are good and bad escorts as there are good and bad clients. We do not usually take time to generalize negative overtones. We use the forum to find and encourage positive experiences and to share knowledge for which all can benefit.

Edited February 4, 2018 by freecahill1965

[MikeBiDude]

If you'd stayed and finished high school...

Oh this is beautiful...because you just exposed yourself as the obvious bullshit artist you are. @Benjamin_Nicholas will get a huge smile out of this.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Oh this is beautiful...because you just exposed yourself as the obvious bullshit artist you are. @Benjamin_Nicholas will get a huge smile out of this.

 

With a few well-placed pokes, people show you who they are without much effort.

 

Human nature eventually finds a way to betray you if you're being deceptive

[jjkrkwood]

 

Honestly, I dont give a fuck what they Do, and neither should anyone else.... It's their life and their business, and they didnt invite you into it. Have some fucking respect, and just worry about your own retirement in Trumps America !!!!!

 

[+ freecahill1965]

Honestly, I dont give a fuck what they Do, and neither should anyone else.... It's their life and their business, and they didnt invite you into it. Have some fucking respect, and just worry about your own retirement in Trumps America !!!!!

 

LMAO

[Beancounter]

Cite your sources...?

 

http://pornstarmugshots.blogspot.com/2018/

 

Don’t kid yourself about porn stars and escorts having arrest records. Many do! Hard to tell how many since we don’t know their real names. Let’s just say many couldn’t pass a basic background check.

[MikeBiDude]

http://pornstarmugshots.blogspot.com/2018/

 

Don’t kid yourself about porn stars and escorts having arrest records. Many do! Hard to tell how many since we don’t know their real names. Let’s just say many couldn’t pass a basic background check.

I’m NOT one to kid myself....so you agree with the veracity of the two posts I’m discussing? :

 

I have known hundreds and it is very sad. Looks go quick because of lack of healthy lifestyle and no insurance, dental etc. Lack of job skills, which gets them into the work to begin with, means menial work after. Sad but sorry that's my long-term observation.

 

In any week I'm sure there are more photos of escorts in police mug shots than on Rentmen.

[+ Topseed]

Escorts’ practice of “age shaving” in their marketing implies a sensitivity to the march of time. Otherwise, why not live in the truth?

[+ freecahill1965]

http://pornstarmugshots.blogspot.com/2018/

 

Don’t kid yourself about porn stars and escorts having arrest records. Many do! Hard to tell how many since we don’t know their real names. Let’s just say many couldn’t pass a basic background check.

No one is refuting that some have records. Again, there are many occupations that have people with higher than average legal records. We disagree in the generalization of the ops characterization of escorts.

[+ tassojunior]

I’m NOT one to kid myself....so you agree with the veracity of the two posts I’m discussing? :

 

MikeBiDude- How old are you and how many escorts have you hired or friended over the years? I'm 68 and have hired hundreds many of whom I was very good friends with and some I still am. I've had a dozen long-term live-in situations and am currently partners with one and have a half dozen escort friends here and a half dozen in Prague I help with their work and lives. Obviously, since you know so much more about it than me you must be what 100 and hired or managed a couple thousand ? I'm sorry I assumed to have more experience with escort lives than someone of your advanced years and experience.

 

And gay men have a right to discuss potential dangers to them on a gay site. That's not just emotional and financial aspects but also how to avoid scams and fakes and how to conduct themselves safely. Gay men for too long have been victims and need to be free to discuss these concerns among themselves. If an escort is legit they have nothing to fear from these discussions and should encourage them to weed out the trouble-causing ones.

 

Escorts generally go into the business because of a troubled past, especially the GFP's. They rarely have health care coverage much less dental and believe me, rotten teeth are the fastest way to be exiting the business. And hemorrhoids are an occupational hazard that puts one out. Neither do they have social security coverage for disabilities or addictions, much less retirement. I would love to run across an escort contributing well into a 501(k). I never have. Encouraging escorts who think they're movie stars because guys pay them to suck dick to get healthcare, dental, housing, off addictions, and planning for their future after escorting is not easy. Most clients could care less.

 

The guys I deal with and help are all at the peak of the game. The best-looking ones. But even they are difficult to get to think about health and future security. I remember one who was one of the top porn stars in the US and top escorts telling me when he got too old (his teeth were already bad) he would just move to California, marry a single mom in public housing and get on CalFare. That is so sad after all the money he had gone through for so long that he didn't think to use it wisely. I'm proud of my current guy because he's bought a house for him and his 2 kids and is using his earnings to pay it off in full soon. I got him on my dental insurance as a partner as he's 35. Two other friends who visit and work here are very young (23) and very popular but amazingly save at least half what they make and have bank accounts $100K to $200K in under two years. That's great. Money talks.

 

But for all these gems I know there are dozens with many problems and no plans. And there are a number who are just plain bad and evil and are dangerous to gay men. And they certainly hurt the income of the good guys because they make gay men wary of hiring at all. Clients need to know how to screen and avoid fakes and troubled ones.

 

But being attacked for joking there are probably more escorts in mug shots than Rentmen on a gay site is homophobic. That's a truth that's a joke we gays have a right to make. And the interest in all the murders by famous escorts is healthy for gay clients who are too damn naive. If it happens to even the richest by the top ones what about the rest. Escorting, especially online, needs to be a hell of a lot more honest and safer for many reasons., including escorts.

 

But I'll never back off my observation from many many experiences that life after for GFP escorts especially is not usually easy.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

You were 'attacked' for posting brash generalizations.

 

What you're now doing is backpeddaling in an attempt to make things more clear: That's fine with me. The G4P guys you're speaking of are a niche in this industry, not the norm and not what I would consider the top 10% overall.

 

Just remember that if you're going to come here and make sweeping statements about escorts, someone is going to find fault with it. It doesn't matter how many hundreds of straight guys you've paid or helped. That's not credibility for those who see escorts in an entirely different light.

[+ freecahill1965]

MikeBiDude- How old are you and how many escorts have you hired or friended over the years? I'm 68 and have hired hundreds many of whom I was very good friends with and some I still am. I've had a dozen long-term live-in situations and am currently partners with one and have a half dozen escort friends here and a half dozen in Prague I help with their work and lives. Obviously, since you know so much more about it than me you must be what 100 and hired or managed a couple thousand ? I'm sorry I assumed to have more experience with escort lives than someone of your advanced years and experience.

 

And gay men have a right to discuss potential dangers to them on a gay site. That's not just emotional and financial aspects but also how to avoid scams and fakes and how to conduct themselves safely. Gay men for too long have been victims and need to be free to discuss these concerns among themselves. If an escort is legit they have nothing to fear from these discussions and should encourage them to weed out the trouble-causing ones.

 

Escorts generally go into the business because of a troubled past, especially the GFP's. They rarely have health care coverage much less dental and believe me, rotten teeth are the fastest way to be exiting the business. And hemorrhoids are an occupational hazard that puts one out. Neither do they have social security coverage for disabilities or addictions, much less retirement. I would love to run across an escort contributing well into a 501(k). I never have. Encouraging escorts who think they're movie stars because guys pay them to suck dick to get healthcare, dental, housing, off addictions, and planning for their future after escorting is not easy. Most clients could care less.

 

The guys I deal with and help are all at the peak of the game. The best-looking ones. But even they are difficult to get to think about health and future security. I remember one who was one of the top porn stars in the US and top escorts telling me when he got too old (his teeth were already bad) he would just move to California, marry a single mom in public housing and get on CalFare. That is so sad after all the money he had gone through for so long that he didn't think to use it wisely. I'm proud of my current guy because he's bought a house for him and his 2 kids and is using his earnings to pay it off in full soon. I got him on my dental insurance as a partner as he's 35. Two other friends who visit and work here are very young (23) and very popular but amazingly save at least half what they make and have bank accounts $100K to $200K in under two years. That's great. Money talks.

 

But for all these gems I know there are dozens with many problems and no plans. And there are a number who are just plain bad and evil and are dangerous to gay men. And they certainly hurt the income of the good guys because they make gay men wary of hiring at all. Clients need to know how to screen and avoid fakes and troubled ones.

 

But being attacked for joking there are probably more escorts in mug shots than Rentmen on a gay site is homophobic. That's a truth that's a joke we gays have a right to make. And the interest in all the murders by famous escorts is healthy for gay clients who are too damn naive. If it happens to even the richest by the top ones what about the rest. Escorting, especially online, needs to be a hell of a lot more honest and safer for many reasons., including escorts.

 

But I'll never back off my observation from many many experiences that life after for GFP escorts especially is not usually easy.

Your post is very interesting and offering your perspective based on your experience is awesome. BUT gay, straight or bi making fun of others is not appropriate and negatively generalizing escorts is unkind. As for accusing others of being homophopic because their beliefs are different than yours questions your judgement and ability to be taken seriously.

[jjkrkwood]

Escorts’ practice of “age shaving” in their marketing implies a sensitivity to the march of time. Otherwise, why not live in the truth?

 

Escorts arent the only ones who "age shave". Go to any profile online and I'll bet a few years was cut ?

[+ tassojunior]

"Based on my past several hundred experiences" is not a generalization, it's an observation.

[jjkrkwood]

The only one that should speak on escorts IS THE ESCORTS. Hiring does not make you an authority on BEING AN ESCORT, you need to walk in their sneakers to KNOW what being an escort is.... So to Mr Tass, until you BECOME an escort and have first hand experience and perspective........

 

http://78.media.tumblr.com/de2057c238be02c45780a449473906a1/tumblr_inline_nbxjs44aYi1slinvg.gif

[jjkrkwood]

"Based on my past several hundred experiences" is not a generalization, it's an observation.

 

An an Observation is NOT the reality !

[escortrod]

"Based on my past several hundred experiences" is not a generalization, it's an observation.

You were making generalisations based on your observations. You were also totally dismissive of the experiences of others who you assume have met fewer escorts than you, and you seem to ignore your apparent selection bias.

[+ freecahill1965]

"Based on my past several hundred experiences" is not a generalization, it's an observation.

Our point EXACTLY! I am glad that you recognize this fact. It is too bad you have generalized in your posts when in fact you really are stating your personal observations.

[mike carey]

Try this for size, 'I have met several hundred Americans, therefore I know that Americans are [insert dismissive characterisation]'.

Edited February 5, 2018 by mike carey

[escortrod]

Try this for size, 'I have met several hundred Americsns, therefore I know that Americans are [insert dismissive characterisation]'.

Americans that I have chosen to meet based on certain characteristics that I prefer.

[+ tassojunior]

Then, by all means, lets hear the experiences of others who have left escorting and become successful. No one would love to hear of those examples more than me ! Isn't that what this thread was supposed to be?

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Then, by all means, lets hear the experiences of others who have left escorting and become successful. No one would love to hear of those examples more than me ! Isn't that what this thread was supposed to be?

 

Wow. Still hanging onto it, eh? Okay, I'll bite.

 

How about those who are currently escorting and successful. There are many.

[+ tassojunior]

Try this for size, 'I have met several hundred Americans, therefore I know that Americans are [insert dismissive characterisation]'.

 

I never said "therefore I know that all escorts are". I said based on several hundred observations what I have seen... Huge difference.

 

And I certainly hope that rod is correct that I have an oversample of bi and GFP. I mentioned that the GFP's seem to do the worst. I'm gay; I hope gay escorts do better.

 

But by all means lets heard the successful examples so other escorts can copy it!