Sex With A Specific Massage Therapist

[Dmitri]

I am a bit confused on the ground rules on posting in the Spa forum re: specific masseurs and what they will provide in addition to massage, such as sexual services. This would include a masseur being naked, oral, happy ending, etc. It says we are to be careful when posting "so as not to compromise their licenses." I know some will say "PM me for details" as in "private message me." Others though, will list a masseur by name, with a link to their ad, and ask the forum if they provide mutual touch, HE, etc. And many will openly discuss the masseur and what sexual services they provided. I just saw Jake in Chicago ( a masseur) joined the forum, and was not happy his name, and massage ad link, was mentioned re: oral. If you scroll thru the posts you will see many guys openly discussing , and asking, what sexual services a specific masseur provides. Is this okay, or should we only PM each other with this info? I feel being this open can actually jeopardize the masseur's license, and get them in possible trouble with law enforcement. Yet I see it all the time in posts. Never know what eyes are viewing this forum. Look at Rentboy. We never thought that would happen after 20 years online.

Edited January 25, 2018 by Dmitri

[+ nycman]

I’m one who has been vocal about not saying too much in the forums.

And I even extend that into PMs. Unless you’ve met the person you’re

exchanging PMs with...I don’t see much difference. Do people really

think Vice can’t figure out how to PM people on here?.

 

Anyways, I try to stick to “he looks like his pics”, “he’s fun”, “the massage

was excellent” etc. I only go into details on the negative side “it was strictly

legitimate”, “don’t expect a HE”, “he didn’t get naked or allow touching” etc.

 

So much of it is chemistry based in the first place, that I don’t see the value

of into going into greater detail that may put the masseur at risk or make

him an easy target.

 

If forum members I trust say positive things about a masseur that I'm interested

in hiring, then I hire him and see how it goes. If it’s great...then I repeat.

 

Simple enough and so far it’s served me well.

Edited January 25, 2018 by nycman

[maninsoma]

It's up to the forum moderators to decide what's allowed. I suppose that as a member you can report posts that you think violate the stated policies, but my guess is that you'd have a lot of posts to report.

 

I am always very careful to not post explicit information about masseurs I have hired because my experience leads me to believe that just because I enjoyed a certain level of interaction with a masseur doesn't mean that that's always part of that masseur's repertoire. I understand people wanting to know whether a guy charging a significantly-higher-than-normal price for a therapeutic massage is offering anything beyond a therapeutic massage, but when inquiries are basically asking if the guy provides "full service" even though it's a massage and not escort ad I get uncomfortable. I think people should be browsing on Rentmen or another escort website if they are looking for that kind of encounter, and then asking questions in the escort forum, not the spa, about services provided.

[rvwnsd]

Count me in the same column as @nycman and @maninsoma when it comes to providing details in the public forum. The rules are actually quite clear. The issue is that some posters choose not to follow them and/or see how far they can stretch them. There have been some who want specific examples of what they can and cannot ask in the public forum, which I equate with asking just how far above the speed limit one can drive before one will get pulled over for speeding.If you want to know or share details, take it to a "conversation" (i.e. what we call a PM.)

 

@nycman makes an excellent point about "conversations." When someone I know asks me for details of an escort or masseur session, I am happy to provide details. When someone I don't know starts asking for details, more details, and still more details I provide general answers because I don't know their motivation for asking. When being asked about a masseur's level of interaction I am more general than when asked about an escort because I recognize that a masseur's comfort level at crossing the line between masseur and escort might depend upon chemistry.

[Guest fm0322]

When in doubt about the rules, it's useful to look them up. I am cutting and pasting from the terms and rules listed in the Help Links on the menu bar. These have not been updated since 2016. The rules provide general guidance for posting. They also state the site is moderated and the moderator will remove/alter posts that fall outside the TOS. While I try to be sensitive when I post, I cannot see a common set of standards for posts. I think it is time for a moderator to weigh in here and either give guidance or begin doing a moderator's job. "It takes all kinds", I want to participate in a forum where there is an open exchange of information and views. If I want to read crap, I'll look at the reviews on MF or RM. If anyone is in danger because of this forum's existence we should all leave or the site should be shut down.

 

POSTING PRIVILEGES

 

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[rvwnsd]

When in doubt about the rules, it's useful to look them up. I am cutting and pasting from the terms and rules listed in the Help Links on the menu bar. These have not been updated since 2016. The rules provide general guidance for posting. They also state the site is moderated and the moderator will remove/alter posts that fall outside the TOS. While I try to be sensitive when I post, I cannot see a common set of standards for posts. I think it is time for a moderator to weigh in here and either give guidance or begin doing a moderator's job. "It takes all kinds", I want to participate in a forum where there is an open exchange of information and views. If I want to read crap, I'll look at the reviews on MF or RM. If anyone is in danger because of this forum's existence we should all leave or the site should be shut down.

 

POSTING PRIVILEGES

 

All are welcome to join us and post here, without restriction. However, we must and do reserve the right to modify or delete any post or thread that violates these rules or is, in our sole opinion, inappropriate for inclusion in these shared conversations. Posters who violate a rule will receive a warning from the moderators via their private inbox or by email. Second and third violations will result in a suspension of posting privileges for 30 days. Posters who have violated the rules more than three times will have their usernames deactivated permanently.

 

If you feel a post violates the rules, please click on the ALERT link at the bottom of the offending post. The moderators will be notified and will review the post as soon as possible. If the post does violate the rules, the moderators will take whatever action is deemed appropriate. Please send an ALERT instead of a private e-mail when you feel action is required. An ALERT will reach the first available moderator while an e-mail will wait until that individual next comes online.

You might want to continue reading and then snip the parts about libel and not posting reviews in the message center.

[rogerG]

I'll bet the percentage of guys doing HE massages are not licensed, and probably have no formal training. Getting a massage license is not cheap. For those who do hold a license and enjoy being sensual with the customers, talking openly about how far they go is probably not a welcome thing. The risk of losing the license is very real, although the budget for state inspectors is small.

 

I know a few cops but I've never heard of any cop busting a gay male massage therapist for providing a HE. But I don't live in a city where that would be considered a productive use of taxpayer money.

[+ ODIN51]

I am a bit confused on the ground rules on posting in the Spa forum re: specific masseurs and what they will provide in addition to massage, such as sexual services. This would include a masseur being naked, oral, happy ending, etc. It says we are to be careful when posting "so as not to compromise their licenses." I know some will say "PM me for details" as in "private message me." Others though, will list a masseur by name, with a link to their ad, and ask the forum if they provide mutual touch, HE, etc. And many will openly discuss the masseur and what sexual services they provided. I just saw Jake in Chicago ( a masseur) joined the forum, and was not happy his name, and massage ad link, was mentioned re: oral. If you scroll thru the posts you will see many guys openly discussing , and asking, what sexual services a specific masseur provides. Is this okay, or should we only PM each other with this info? I feel being this open can actually jeopardize the masseur's license, and get them in possible trouble with law enforcement. Yet I see it all the time in posts. Never know what eyes are viewing this forum. Look at Rentboy. We never thought that would happen after 20 years online.

 

I think it is best not to post details of whatever intimate experiences we had with the masseurs. Also giving details thru PM to members you are not really familiar with, is not a good idea at all.

[MartyB]

My first rule when it comes to masseurs is do you want me to post a review on this forum? Since the content of the review has to be sanitized I refer to the experience as an erotic massage and don't elaborate on details. I also allow the masseur the ability to review prior to submission. This clears the way for both of us that we're good to go on this forum. Now if my fellow members DM me for further details depending who that member is I will provide additional information or respond to their direct inquiries. If I've never had any interaction with the forum member I just kindly state you will not be disappointed in what erotic elements are offered.