Jesse Jaymes

[Guest TheOtherGuy]

Guys if you are not having a good time with these guys I can assure you it is your approach that is ruining it for you.

C'mon man that last sentence is total BS. Are you seriously trying to say that every time someone has a less than amazing time with one of your favorites that it's simply a matter of "their approach"? That's ridiculous. Maybe chemistry has something do with it. Maybe the providers say they'll happily comply with a request, only to change their tune once they're face to face. Maybe they're having an off day. Maybe they're really only interested in the money and don't care about their client's experience. Maybe someone has bad breath or spinach in their teeth.

To patently make the claim that "if you are not having a good time with these guys I can assure you it is your approach that is ruining it for you." is asinine.

 

One man's dream date is another man's disappointing nightmare. Speaking from experience, my time spent with one of the men on your list was the most boring (and pricy) fucking 40 minutes of my year. Certainly there were many factors that played into this, but I assure you it wasn't all because of my approach.

[Roberto]

Well put TOG! No one should assume if they don't enjoy time/connect with one of the big names, that it is the client who must be "at fault". It's still chemistry/human interaction....

[novaman]

My inquiry only included that I liked his ad, admired his hard work and was interested in an appointment. I generally don't go into details until I get an initial reply back. Sent message 1st day ad appeared in DC then again a few days later. I understand guys like this probably get a lot of inquiries. It seems more often than not I get no reply back from others I've tried to contact over the last year or so. There are more guys advertising but few guys are willing to follow up on inquires and its more difficult making appointments happen than in the past. So I'm just wondering how contacts are being made.

 

I've hired a few others from this group of bodybuilders on multiple occasions and they will contact me when they're in town. I don't believe they always have someone handling their business.

[BabyBoomer]

Google 6077386123. That leads to Fratmodels. They've handled quite a few models over the last handful of years.

 

~Boomer~

[TruthBTold]

Google 6077386123. That leads to Fratmodels. They've handled quite a few models over the last handful of years.

~Boomer~

 

What is Google 6077386123?

[BabyBoomer]

What is Google 6077386123?

 

That's the whatsapp phone number for Jesse.

 

~Boomer~

[healthpro]

I contacted him on rentmen the week before I went to NYC and said I liked his ad and was he free to meet. He texted back that he was going to be doing a photo shoot and he gave me his # and told me to text him as he gets a lot of emails. So I texted him when I got there and we set up a meeting. It was in Feb so things were pretty quiet in the city. So we connected. I don’t think there was a middle man but it was all text.

[Gymowner]

Interesting Zeb, Apollo and Vin are mentioned. 3 more straight guys. Love them all!!!

[healthpro]

Yes they may be straight guys but they all are very interactive with clients. Great bf experiences. Not many limits.

[Gymowner]

Theotherguy.... what I'm trying to say is that ones approach being spot on with these guys always makes a better experience. Remember, these are human beings not robots. The more comfortable and at ease they are, they better time will be had. Period. How many times do we see on the boards "oh I had an appt set with so and so and at the last minute my plans changed so I had to cancel". Give me a break. Know ones schedule and stick to it. Also, one can arrange one thing then when the client shows up makes shrek look like a run way model. And hygiene like a sewer.What would you do with this sort of client? Think about it. Oh I know we aren't suppose to say such things blah blah blah, but I give these guys tons of credit. Doing what they do without one bit of desire to do so gives me all the respect in the world for them. I've been to bodybuilding shows and strip clubs. I've always thought to myself " these are the type of guys that hire those sorts of bodies and then guys wonder why they can't perform"? I for one couldn't "perform" if I had a million dollars in front of me. Kudos again to these guys.

[+ BigRic]

LOL. You really think all those 3 are straight? "[A] whole nother story," indeed.

[Guest TheOtherGuy]

Theotherguy.... what I'm trying to say is that ones approach being spot on with these guys always makes a better experience. Remember, these are human beings not robots. The more comfortable and at ease they are, they better time will be had. Period. How many times do we see on the boards "oh I had an appt set with so and so and at the last minute my plans changed so I had to cancel". Give me a break. Know ones schedule and stick to it. Also, one can arrange one thing then when the client shows up makes shrek look like a run way model. And hygiene like a sewer.What would you do with this sort of client? Think about it. Oh I know we aren't suppose to say such things blah blah blah, but I give these guys tons of credit. Doing what they do without one bit of desire to do so gives me all the respect in the world for them. I've been to bodybuilding shows and strip clubs. I've always thought to myself " these are the type of guys that hire those sorts of bodies and then guys wonder why they can't perform"? I for one couldn't "perform" if I had a million dollars in front of me. Kudos again to these guys.

 

Sorry man, still not buying it.

If a client cancels a scheduled appointment, then the whole issue of "their approach" is moot.

If someone shows up "making Shrek look like a runway model", then that also has nothing to do with their approach, that's their face.

If their hygiene is indeed like a sewer, then certainly that would be a turn off, but that's what a shower is for. To answer your question, In my day when something like that happened I would say "hey, let's get in the shower together and clean each other up" or something to that end.

 

I give these guys tons of credit too, but only where it is due. I'd venture to say that some of them deserve a freaking humanitarian award for the work they do! I know many of them have made MY world a much better place. But I am also not going to sanctify them and cry crocodile tears for the poor straight guy who has to put up with a dude touching him. That's ridiculous. And you're wrong about them "doing what they do without one bit of desire". They do have a desire. To get paid.

 

As a former provider myself, I can speak from first hand experience as to some of the nightmares escorts have to put up with. Trust me, I know what it's like to have a guy in front of you that you have zero interest in physically. But to explain away the fact that a provider can't perform by saying "the dude was ugly" is fucked up. I wouldn't say it's exactly victim shaming, but it's the same mentality. If the escort is such a precious little gem that the mere fact of being in a room with a hideous ogre who wants to grope him upsets him so terribly, then he's in the wrong fucking business.

 

I know that they're human beings and not robots. That was part of the point I was trying to make. There are WAY too many variables in human interaction and chemistry to simply blame an unsatisfactory experience on "their approach". And certainly to blame it all on the client is beyond the pale.

[Gymowner]

Actually.. I think we both are in agreement

[Gymowner]

And big ric...yes I do think those 3 are straight. Urge is the definition of sexualness and sexuality. Do they have any sort of sexual prowess and performance with men when they are not getting paid? Do they put on their pants on a Friday night and say "hmmmm who do I wanna go fuck tonight? A hot chick or a hot guy. There is your answer. Just being able to perform has very little to do with ones sexuality

Edited June 23, 2018 by Gymowner

[BabyBoomer]

 

As a former provider myself, I can speak from first hand experience as to some of the nightmares escorts have to put up with.

 

Have you mentioned that before, or did I miss it?

 

~Boomer~

[+ BigRic]

I don't know if (m)any of us needed the mini-lecture on sexuality. More importantly, I think you might be missing a broader point (obscured perhaps by an erection) more important than even the question of how any of us would definitively know about the urges, prowess, performance and Friday night shenanigans of those 3 or most any other men.

 

I think many purportedly straight providers know there are those gay men who are so titillated by being with a "straight" man that they identify as such even if "bisexual" might be a more apt descriptor for some. "Show me the money."

[Guest TheOtherGuy]

Have you mentioned that before, or did I miss it?

 

~Boomer~

lol. Secret's out I guess!

[Gymowner]

"More importantly, I think you might be missing a broader point (obscured perhaps by an erection) more important than even the question of how any of us would definitively know about the urges, prowess, performance and Friday night shenanigans of those 3"

 

couldnt i say the same thing about you with this comment below?

 

 

"You really think all those 3 are straight? "[A] whole nother story," indeed."

[+ BigRic]

Yeah, sure! In the same Parallel Universe Of Missed Points in which you really are in agreement with TOG.

Edited June 23, 2018 by BigRic

[big-n-tall]

Interesting Zeb, Apollo and Vin are mentioned. 3 more straight guys. Love them all!!!

 

Of the 3, Zeb is the only one I haven't met. So I can't say what he classifies himself as, but I think I've only seen him say he is straight. Vin and Apollo, I have extensive history with. I know them well. Hell Vin and I have mutual acquaintances/friends.

 

Anyway, Vin doesn't like to label himself. He doesn't like the idea of being put in a proverbial box. Apollo is definitely bisexual. Make of that what you will.

 

I find these sexuality assumptions funny sometimes. And yes, I understand some clients don't want to hire a guy if he classifies as straight (although some will). There was a past forum member who constantly made the assumption about a popular escort (on the forum) being straight. He kept complaining about how he would never hire him because he perceived him as straight. I told him it was not the case and the escort was bisexual with a preference for men. He railed against everything I said. Until I asked him simply, "Have you ever spoken to him." His answer was no. I pretty much responded that he had no idea then.

 

Ultimately, I mean you can believe what you want to believe about an individual's sexuality. It really doesn't matter. Some of these guys are truly straight; some just say they are and aren't (because that's what they believe sells); and sometimes it is the client's perception (right or wrong) of the working guy.

 

Unless the escort himself makes a big deal about it, I try not to assume. If you get to know them... you'll usually find out.

Edited June 23, 2018 by big-n-tall

[builder boy]

And who cares? If you have fun then doesn't really matter.

[big-n-tall]

And who cares? If you have fun then doesn't really matter.

 

+1 Exactly!!!

[tradehunter]

Theotherguy.... what I'm trying to say is that ones approach being spot on with these guys always makes a better experience. Remember, these are human beings not robots. The more comfortable and at ease they are, they better time will be had. Period. How many times do we see on the boards "oh I had an appt set with so and so and at the last minute my plans changed so I had to cancel". Give me a break. Know ones schedule and stick to it. Also, one can arrange one thing then when the client shows up makes shrek look like a run way model. And hygiene like a sewer.What would you do with this sort of client? Think about it. Oh I know we aren't suppose to say such things blah blah blah, but I give these guys tons of credit. Doing what they do without one bit of desire to do so gives me all the respect in the world for them. I've been to bodybuilding shows and strip clubs. I've always thought to myself " these are the type of guys that hire those sorts of bodies and then guys wonder why they can't perform"? I for one couldn't "perform" if I had a million dollars in front of me. Kudos again to these guys.

 

I agree with alot of what gymowner is saying!!!! When a guy is ACTUALLY str8 and ventures into this biz they really have jumped leaps n bounds. To give an example imagine goin to the local dmv and picking the average middle aged overweight woman of line. Sagging breasts slightly graying teeth not too white etc etc. Imagine spending hours locking lips and exploring the nether regions of her body.Guys like jesse may feel that way depending on the client they are with. Of,course it is highly reccommended they are cordial but feigning enthusiasm is not that simple. Also gay escorts are not exempt from these dynamics . No one on here needs to be told that a gay man is not attractes to every man n in many cases tends to be more judgemental of clients looks imo

[tradehunter]

LOL. You really think all those 3 are straight? "[A] whole nother story," indeed.

 

I think 1 out of the 3 could be. The other 2 are either bisexual or really open minded. But most of the guys claiming str8 these days are laughable at least these three are believable.

[Gymowner]

Vince doesn't like to claim his sexuality yet does he go on dates with men with the same motive and intent as he does with women? Does he think " boy he is cute, I'd love to go out on a date with that guy and if it goes well get into a relationship with him". Has that ever happened? Don't really have to ask him. His friends on here would know the truth by his past actions. I remember seeing him once at an event with a gorgeous blonde. Model looks. I believe someone said it was his girlfriend at the time. Did he ever have the same with an equally attractive male as his boyfriend? If so....bisexual. if not...... I'm not here to pick on Vin. It's just that being able to get an erection and ejaculate while getting paid does nothing whatsoever to claim ones sexuality. Apollo is claimed to be bisexual. That would mean he has had dated both men and women with a healthy non paying sexual relationship with both sexes.

 

I'm not here to get on these guys. In the end it really doesn't matter but I cant tell you the guys that strip or do cam shows that say they are "bi sexual" that have never touched another male because their clientele is gay. "Cmon man... we don't care what you are tell the truth". " well I'm really straight but I thought the gay guys would want me to say that". The good ones only want the truth.

Edited June 23, 2018 by Gymowner