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I have been seeing the same guy for years, he worked at a chiropractor I went to - and yesterday told me he is leaving but gave me his number and said he is going to take clients at his house.

 

The massages have never crossed the line, but get as close as you can get, lots of accidental grazing and such.

 

I will defiantly schedule with him, any ideas on how I tell him I want the massage to get more sexual?

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Just know it may not happen. Went to a guy for therapeutic massage for a couple of years. Sometimes got an erection. Once, I said I need to get this taken care of. His response was "keep trying". Knew then, there would never be more.

 

Some months later, before an appointment, he texted me 3 separate times to move back our appointment because his client was late. When we finally met, I used the bathroom, and there was a used condom on the top of the other trash in bathroom garbage can.

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I have been seeing the same guy for years, he worked at a chiropractor I went to - and yesterday told me he is leaving but gave me his number and said he is going to take clients at his house.

 

The massages have never crossed the line, but get as close as you can get, lots of accidental grazing and such.

 

I will defiantly schedule with him, any ideas on how I tell him I want the massage to get more sexual?

I don't see the upside of telling him you want something more sexual. If he's not comfortable with it, your professional relationship is probably damaged beyond repair. If he is comfortable with it, based on what you've said, it will probably happen at some point outside of the confines of a chiropractor's office.

 

I wouldn't say anything, but I would keep seeing him. If you've been getting massages from him for years, he must be doing something right. If he is comfortable with things going to another level with you, your reactions to "accidental grazing and such" are more likely to get you there than asking for it.

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I have been seeing the same guy for years, he worked at a chiropractor I went to - and yesterday told me he is leaving but gave me his number and said he is going to take clients at his house.

 

The massages have never crossed the line, but get as close as you can get, lots of accidental grazing and such.

 

I will defiantly schedule with him, any ideas on how I tell him I want the massage to get more sexual?

 

Wow.....lots of ways for you to figure it out. First, scope out his house when you arrive. Is there anyone else there? Like his wife? That would be one answer. Buzz kill :( If no one else is there, is there any indication that he lives alone? Maybe ask when you arrive, in a pleasant way, if he lives alone. Scope out his furnishings.....not to stereotype....but I think we can all tell a gay man's decor. :) That could be a tip off. Then when it comes to the massage, I assume you were draped in the chiropractor's office. If he drapes you at his house, tell him you prefer to be undraped. If he seems uncomfortable with that, odds are against you. But if he is totally open to that.....then you are going in the right direction. You had mentioned he grazes against you in the office. If he does that at his house , and you are undraped, and alone in his house.....then you take the directive and let your hands brush against him....and go from there. At this point, in conversation, mention you have had massages before with release, and ask if that is a service he would provide. From there, just let the magic unfold. You gotta live life, dude. You don't want to do nothing and make no attempts, and years from now when you are to old for this look back and kick yourself in the ass that you never tried and passed up something that could have been hot!

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A masseur I'd see often would occasionally do some erotic (to me) bits, fluttering/tickling his fingers over my lower abs, but it never went further than that. I finally worked up the nerve (I was young :-)) to ask him if he ever worked in the nude himself (I was always nude during the massages), and he agreed, but he was clearly making efforts to make sure there was no accidental brushing against him. I never tried again.

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I get hard every time so that would be nothing new.

Then I would tell him at some point how handsome I think he is.

 

If he smiles and appreciates the compliment, I would ask if he ever has done the massage in the nude with other clients?

 

If he says yes, then tell him you would love to be one of these clients. Then you can tell him you don’t have limits, but of course you will respect HIS limits.

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My advice would be to try the massage at his house, see whats different (if anything)....if you are already hard during the session he knows it....Perhaps a change in location will change the massage somewhat. That has been my experience going from strictly therapeutic to more sensual. I would shy away from asking until after you've tried the new location to see whats different.

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I agree with PaulM... Maybe don't do anything different on this first massage in his home.

 

Doing the massage in his home instead of in a formal office setting really does open up the possibilities a lot! In an office setting, seems like he could get into a lot more trouble doing something sexual... So he might initiate a little more in his home setting since there's little to no risk for him.

 

Also, try leaving your hands conveniently near the edge of the tableside... so he can brush his crotch up against it "accidentally"... and if he does, make sure you keep your hand firmly in place ;) and if he keeps rubbing against it, you could try moving your hand a little to rub his crotch too... It's a form of non-verbal communication :)

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Ok - OP here.

 

I saw him last night. Although not the porn scene I was hoping for - it was a little “different” massage than before.

 

If I thought we got close to the line but never crossed it before - well we got closer.

 

We started with some small talk. The other day I realized I don’t think I have ever out right said I was gay - I am sure he know it. So this time I made sure to make it clear in the conversation.

 

The roomset up was more of an area than a room. He said he was working on a screen but, I could still see him when getting naked. I tried to see if he stole a look, but I couldn’t tell.

 

The massage was amazing as always. Same accidental brushing as before, but with him wearing loose basketball shorts with obviously no underwear vs scrubs - I could feel his cock as he would drag it along my arm, leg, top of head. I thought I noticed him getting hard, but that might have been wishful thinking. I was too chicken to touch it. But, It was so fucking hot. I was hard from the minute I got on the table. I made more noise that usuall, especially when his dick was resting on my thigh. Ha. I am sure he knew I liked it.

 

He has always been casual with the sheet, but he was even more so this time - If it goes the same next time I will try and make some joke about “just getting rid of it”

 

I guess all in all it was the same great massage - a little freer. I feel I could push the boundaries a little bit more.

 

Thanks for all the help guys.

What do you think for next time? Push things or just relax and see?

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One crucial question: what happened when you turned face up? Were you draped? I am sure he noticed?

 

Maybe you can joke about it next time, like "pardon my excitement" and see where the conversation takes you :)... I try to be clear about liking someone without being pushy to make them uncomfortable because it's awkward if it's not mutual or if they have a bf or other type of constraints.

 

Turning face up is critical time and your main chance to get something started. Before, it's too early, especially if the masseur is serious and has pride in his craft. Things become more relaxed once you turn around and you are cruising toward the end of the massage.

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I think a follow up email might be a good idea. Tell him how much you enjoyed the massage, maybe that you always enjoyed massages from him and found them relaxing, but you felt even more relaxed outside the clinical setting and that you look forward to seeing him again soon.

 

In my experience, a professional (i.e., therapeutic with no extras) massage therapist's cock never comes close enough to his client's arm, leg, or head for you to feel it drag against you. Next time, if it gets close enough to your hand to "accidentally" flick it, you can try if you feel comfortable doing it. Having said that, if you really enjoy his massages, it might not be a bad idea to "just relax and see." If things get more relaxed each time you go back, it could be a sign of mutual trust that is developing between you and him.

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@DJla, a purely professional therapist would never allow their genitals to get anywhere near a client's body, beyond a true accident, such as a client moving an arm unexpectedly. What you describe OP, has already crossed multiple lines. Cheers to you for finding someone who actually knows massage, gives you a good massage, and is apparently more than willing to cross multiple lines to tease/entice you.

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I am a big believer in not playing games. Maybe "the tease" is exciting for you, or others. We are all wired differently. It would drive me crazy to draw this out over multiple massages. This first massage at his house I would have just been upfront and asked "Can I be undraped?" Pure, simple question. Direct. He can either say yes or no. No games, no guessing.If he says yes...then you know which direction you are headed. If he says no....well, there is your answer. I had a situation similar to yours with a guy that did outcalls to my house. He knew I was gay and was cool with it. I knew he was straight with a girlfriend. After the first massage, I could feel the sexual tension. I just KNEW. I did not draw it out for months.I just cut to the chase and asked to be undraped on the 2nd massage. He said yes. Being undraped was the key. Once the sheet was off on the 2nd massage, he was massaging my ass ALOT. When I was on my front on the 2nd massage he saw my erection, and worked around it. I told him to do anything he was comfortable with. He said he was straight, but also curious. I won't go into all the details, but the massages from then on had a sexual component. This dance of "are we going to or not" could have dragged on for months, and driven me crazy. But by the 2nd massage I had my answer. He still comes (literally) over 2X a month and the sessions are orgasmic!

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