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twinkboylover28 · October 27, 2005

>I was spoiled by many years of

>listening to WHYY in Philadelphia, Terry Gross's home station.

>Terry is at least honest about her personal biases, and does

>not pretend to a connection to God; she listens respectfully

>to her interviewees, no matter where they are on the

>political/cultural spectrum, and does not contradict or insult

>them as happens so frequently from commentators on both left

>and right on the commercial stations.

Terry Gross is not honest. NPR had to apologize for the way she handled her Bill O'Reilly interview. A true reporteer challenges anyone in the face of contradicting facts. Thank GOD not everyone is a spineless Larry King type.

bigguyinpasadena · October 27, 2005

Please post a link to this.

ValleyDwellerNorth · October 27, 2005

>HAHA! I knew it would only be a matter of time before

>ValleyDwellerNorth's point of view would be attacked for

>outing NPR as the snooze-fest that it is.

Thanks twinkboylover28 for coming to this damsel's defense. However, I don't think anyone was going after me personally. I do like a man though that jumps into action.

NPR, I am sure, has some really good stuff on it and I might learn a thing or two if I had the patience. I like things loud, shiny and fun so sadly NPR doesn't have my ear all that much anymore. Have you ever seen the skits on Saturday Night Live about NPR? Very lol!

VDN :*

twinkboylover28 · October 27, 2005

>Please post a link to this.

LMAO!!! Right, like I keep links that are several years old in the event you will ask me for it.

bigguyinpasadena · October 27, 2005

>>Please post a link to this.

>

>LMAO!!! Right, like I keep links that are several years old in

>the event you will ask me for it.

>

Typical blowhard full of shit righty response.States fiction as fact and can not back up his statement.No wonder you are a fan of O'liely.

I heard that interview and O'liely was a total asshole(as usual)And walked out of the interview.A real puffed up primadonna that one.But now that I know who your heros are,,,,

twinkboylover28 · October 27, 2005

>>

>Typical blowhard full of shit righty response.States fiction

>as fact and can not back up his statement.No wonder you are a

>fan of O'liely.

>I heard that interview and O'liely was a total asshole(as

>usual)And walked out of the interview.A real puffed up

>primadonna that one.But now that I know who your heros

>are,,,,

LOOKS LIKE IT'S TIME TO EAT SOME CROW BIGGUY!!!

Some who heard the Fresh Air interview said the confrontational Fox host couldn’t take his own medicine. But others, including NPR Ombudsman Jeffrey Dvorkin, faulted Gross as well.

“It was a bad interview,” Dvorkin says. “It sounded like she was carrying Al Franken’s water, and to a lot of listeners who felt that she tried to hoist [O’Reilly] on his own petard and it didn’t work.” Leading with the criticism from the Times and Franken put O’Reilly on the defensive and kept him from opening up, he says.

Dvorkin received “several hundred” e-mails about the interview, most critical of Gross. Some seemed prompted by O’Reilly, he says, but others came from regular Fresh Air listeners.

“Terry needs to apologize to Bill for that interview,” read one e-mail that Dvorkin quoted in a column on NPR’s website. “She’s a much better interviewer than what I just heard from her.”

Dvorkin also says Gross should not have read the People excerpt after O’Reilly left, denying him the right to respond. Such an “empty chair” interview is unethical, he says.

Here is the link to the apology: http://www.npr.org/yourturn/ombudsman/2003/031015.html

Looks like it's time for you to buy some Factor Gear for Christmas!!

Now who's the real "asshole" posting "fiction as fact"!!!!!

Two words: CHECK MATE!!

whipped guy · October 27, 2005

Twink... Great Job! I remember this incident... I guess if you do a Google search or what ever you can find almost anything!!:-)

bigguyinpasadena · October 27, 2005

Yes I searched and found it also.

Here is what I found

http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/transcripts_102403_oreilly.html

IMO,O'liely is a huge bully,a liar,and a fake.The NPR ombudsman was wrong in his statement and in any apology-if the shoe would have been on the other foot no apology would have been likely to have been extended by O'liely or Fox.

But I am glad you feel he is worthy of your eardrums.And i will remember whom you idolize in future post.

In your post twinkboylove you wrote"I can't beleive my taxes go towards supporting such a blatantly obvious, left-leaning venture. The fact that NPR and Terry Gross had to apologize to Bill O'Reilly for their liberal shananigans a few years ago speaks for itself. "

Please find evidence that TERRI GROSS(not the NPR ombudsman)had to apologize to O'liely.

Ps,I read the opinion of the NPR onbudsman Jeffery Dvorkin http://www.npr.org/yourturn/ombudsman/2003/031015.html and in my opinion it is just that,his opinion as no frmal apology to either the listners of the interview or Bill O'liely is given.

In my opinion O'liely played Terri Gross,he new well in advance the sort of hijinx that he was going to pull and he used this interview strictly for sound bites to "prove his point"on his own show,and to boost sales of his ridiculous books.

Luv2play · October 28, 2005

To an American ear, the CBC may sound "liberal" but then Canada is much more liberal than the US. Within Canada, Quebec, which is French-speaking and has a French version of CBC called Radio Canada, is even more liberal, reflecting Quebec's liberal culture. Parts of Canada are quite conservative and CBC has to cater to all their audience with shows and personalities that will appeal to them.

Luv2play · October 28, 2005

In my opinion Terry Gross is an excellent interviewer and I have listened to hundreds of her interviews, if not thousands. That you concentrate on one interview to judge her is unfair and totally misleading. I did not hear the interview with O'Reilly but even if it was as you portray, that does not make her "dishonest". No-one has a hundred percent batting average. I'm sure even you have had moments you would rather forget.x(

October 28, 2005

RE: 2004's Misinformer of the Year!

MISINFORMER OF THE YEAR

http://www.mediamatters.org FOR MORE LIES OF O'LIElly and FAUX NEWS

Since our launch in May 2004, Media Matters for America has monitored, analyzed, and corrected conservative misinformation in the news media 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Our staff recently reviewed the misinformation we've identified and corrected during those eight months in order to choose our first annual "Misinformer of the Year."

Of all the news anchors, columnists, pundits, and reporters whose work we've critiqued and corrected, one stands above all the rest. We're pleased to announce that with at least 75 (we stopped counting) lies, distortions, and mischaracterizations, television host, columnist, radio host, former Inside Edition anchor, man of the people, and Harvard University graduate Bill O'Reilly can now claim the title: 2004 Misinformer of the Year. We've compiled a list of some of his most egregious false and misleading claims of 2004 for your reading pleasure. We've left out comments that were merely offensive, but you can see where he ranks on our list of the Top Ten Most Outrageous Comments of 2004 here.

Without further ado:

O'Reilly falsely claimed Bush didn't oppose 9-11 Commission. O'Reilly defended President George W. Bush from a Kerry-Edwards '04 TV ad highlighting Bush's opposition to creation of the 9-11 Commission by denying that Bush had ever opposed the commission. In fact, Bush did oppose the creation of the 9-11 Commission. (10/21/04)

O'Reilly falsely claimed Iraq had ricin. O'Reilly responded to a caller to his radio show by defending the Iraq war: "They did have ricin up there in the north -- so why are you discounting that so much?" In fact, the Duelfer report (the final report of the Iraqi Survey Group, led by Charles A. Duelfer, which conducted the search for weapons in Iraq following the U.S.-led invasion) indicates that Iraq did not have ricin. (10/19/04)

O'Reilly repeated discredited claims on Iraq-Al Qaeda link. O'Reilly interrupted a former Clinton administration official who tried to correct the record on O'Reilly's claim that terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi constitutes a direct link between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein's Iraq. He also allowed a conservative guest to repeat without challenge other discredited claims about Iraq's supposed involvement in terrorism -- claims O'Reilly has himself cited in the past. (9/27/04)

O'Reilly fabricated "Paris Business Review" as source for success of French boycott. O'Reilly falsely claimed "they've lost billions of dollars in France according to 'The Paris Business Review'" due to an American boycott he advocated of French imports. Media Matters for America found no evidence of a publication named "The Paris Business Review." (4/27/04)

O'Reilly cited phony stats to argue that taxes on rich are excessive. O'Reilly tried to "blow off" the argument that wealthy Americans ought to pay more taxes by citing phony statistics about the tax burden the rich currently bear. (6/30/04)

O'Reilly confused on elementary economics. O'Reilly told a caller on his radio show, "We [the United States] have a trade deficit with everybody, because everybody wants our stuff, and we're not wild about snails" -- indicating that he doesn't know the definition of "trade deficit" and implying that the United States runs a trade surplus with France. In fact, in the first four months of 2004, the United States had a $3 billion trade deficit with France. (6/10/04)

O'Reilly doctored quotation to suggest Soros wished his own father dead. During his smear campaign against progressive financier, philanthropist, and political activist George Soros, O'Reilly doctored a 1995 quotation by Soros to make it seem as if Soros wished his own father dead. (6/1/04)

O'Reilly questioned if Kennedy would show up to Democratic convention ... as Kennedy spoke behind him. O'Reilly teased an upcoming segment of The O'Reilly Factor, broadcast live from the Democratic National Convention, by saying of convention speaker Senator Edward Kennedy: "When we come back, we'll let you listen to Ted Kennedy for a while, if he shows up." In fact, Kennedy had already shown up and had been speaking for several minutes, as O'Reilly need only have turned around to see. (7/27/04)

O'Reilly disparaged Democrats with trifecta of voter falsehoods. In a discussion about what went wrong for Democrats in the November 2 election, O'Reilly claimed that Democrats "lost votes from four years ago"; that "18- to 24[-year-old]s didn't go" to the polls; and that "[c]ommitted Republicans didn't carry the day for the president; independents did." All three claims are false. (11/4/04)

O'Reilly on the radio: Three lies, one broadcast. Lie No. 1: Bush tax cuts didn't create the budget deficit. Lie No. 2: "Socialistic" French, Germans, and Canadian governments tax at 80 percent. Lie No. 3: Canadian, British, and French media are "government-controlled," but Italian media is free. (7/7/04)

Posted to the web on Thursday December 23, 2004 at 6:17 PM EST

October 28, 2005

RE: O'Reilly's "coward" list

O'Reilly's "coward" list

http://www.mediamatters.org For more O'LIElly and FAUX NEWS LIES!

On the October 25 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, Fox News host Bill O'Reilly unveiled his list of invited guests who he said will not appear on his television or radio programs. O'Reilly explained that the list contains "people who are afraid to answer any questions." Earlier in the show, O'Reilly described the list as "people who will not stand up and answer questions about their bomb-throwing statements," adding "You have a moral obligation to do that. If you don't, you're a coward."

The list:

Dick Cheney (Vice president. O'Reilly acknowledged, "He must be sick of getting our calls.")

Michael Chertoff (Secretary of Homeland Security)

Jeb Bush (Governor of Florida)

Samuel Bodman (Secretary of Energy)

Tom DeLay (Representative, R-TX)

Howard Dean (chairman of the Democratic National Committee. According to O'Reilly, "the biggest coward in the country")

Cindy Sheehan (anti-war protester, founding member of Gold Star Families for Peace)

John Kerry (Senator, D-MA)

Brad King (state attorney for Florida's 5th Judicial Circuit)

Jon Corzine (Senator, D-NJ)

Jane Fonda (actress)

Jesse Jackson (founder, Rainbow/PUSH Coalition)

Joseph R. Biden Jr. (Senator, D-DE)

George Pataki (Governor of New York. O'Reilly, "He's so unsure of himself on TV.")

Sheldon Silver (Speaker of the New York State Assembly)

Al Gore (former vice president)

Bill Clinton (former president)

Andy Rooney (journalist, syndicated columnist, regular contributor to CBS' 60 Minutes)

Richard Clarke (former counterterrorism adviser to presidents Clinton and Bush)

Roger Mosey (Director of BBC Sport, former head of TV News at BBC News)

American Civil Liberties Union (O'Reilly: "Anybody from the ACLU is afraid.")

National Public Radio (O'Reilly: "The executives over there are afraid.")

Oil and gas industry (O'Reilly: "The heads of the oil companies are afraid.")

Bill Moyers (journalist. O'Reilly: "biggest mouth in town")

Kathleen Babineaux Blanco (Governor of Louisiana)

Ward Churchill (Professor of ethnic studies, the University of Colorado at Boulder)

Barbra Streisand (Singer, actress. O'Reilly: "All of these Hollywood people ... I mean, they're way out of control there.")

Of the 27 people and organizations on the list, O'Reilly ranked as the top three cowards: Dean, the DNC chairman; King, the Florida state attorney who dropped charges against roommates of the man suspected of killing Jessica Lunsford; and Moyers, a journalist and the current host of PBS' Wide Angle, in that order.

From the October 25 broadcast of Westwood One's The Radio Factor with Bill O'Reilly:

O'REILLY: OK, here we go with the people who will not stand up and answer questions about their bomb-throwing statements. Now here's my philosophy so you know it: If you are going to put yourself out into the public arena and attack somebody, somebody, a person, a human being, OK, then you owe it morally -- you have a moral obligation to answer questions about the attack.

All right? Even if it is [President] Bush or Cheney or the big shots. You have a moral obligation to do that. If you don't, you're a coward. You're a coward. Because if you're going to attack somebody, no matter how you do it, then you have to be man or woman enough to stand up and defend the attack. Otherwise, you're a weasel. You know weasels run out of their little holes, and they run around, and they bite chickens or whatever they're doing, and they run back in their hole.

[...]

O'REILLY: Anyway, here's a list we put together this morning of people who are afraid to answer any questions. Ready? Now what I want you to do is listen to this list and then tell me if I'm being fair or not. OK. Here we go.

Vice President Cheney. Now he told me, man to man, eye to eye, he'd come on The Factor, long time ago. Has not done it. I mean, he must be sick of getting our calls, but he only goes on people that are going to agree with him. Michael Chertoff, Homeland Security chief. Now Chertoff, in the middle of the news, we can't get him on. We got to go through Peter King, the congressman in New York, say, "Look, can you get Chertoff on?" I mean, it's pretty important we talk with him. Where is he?

Governor Jeb Bush of Florida over the kid stuff. I mean, until he signed Jessica's Law, that was the worst state in the union for the protection of children. No way. Samuel Bodman, secretary of energy. Bodman goes on Fox News Channel but won't come on my show.

Tom DeLay won't come on my show. DeLay goes everywhere, not on The Factor. Howard Dean, the biggest coward in the country. Howard Dean, bar none, biggest coward. Number one on the hit parade. Cindy Sheehan, goes on anything. You call Cindy Sheehan, she'll talk to you on the phone for two hours, not on The Factor.

John Kerry, another guy who said he was going to come on, told TV Guide he was going to come on The Factor. He's afraid. Brad King, the Florida state attorney who wouldn't indict the three people involved with the killer of Jessica Lunsford. I mean, this is coward number two, King. He's right behind Howard Dean. Senator Jon Corzine, now running for governor of New Jersey, another guy who will come to anything, not on this show. Nope. No Corzine.

Jane Fonda. We actually even sent a camera person out to Jane Fonda and said, "Jane, Bill would really like to talk to you. He would be very respectful."

Jesse Jackson. You know, you know that situation. Senator Biden. Now here's another guy. I mean, Biden all day long throwing bombs, nope. George Pataki, governor of New York, won't come on, even though he actually did a good thing. He's so unsure of himself on TV.

New York Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver, the biggest villain, I think, in New York state for blocking the kids legislation. He won't come on.

Al Gore. We've asked Al Gore a thousand times. Same thing with Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton, actually, we're negotiating with now. So that's not out of the realm of possibility. Gore would never come on. Andy Rooney made anti-religion remarks, pretty sturdy anti-religion remarks, wouldn't come on and back them up.

Richard Clarke would not talk to us. He was afraid. The head of the BBC, Roger Mosey, afraid to talk to us Anybody from the ACLU is afraid. And the ACLU actually tells their satellites not to talk to us.

NPR, the executives over there are afraid. The head of the oil companies are afraid. I mean they're a riot, these guys. Not only won't they come on, but they pay these mouthpieces in D.C. millions of dollars, millions of dollars, and, and the mouthpieces won't even come on. They go on everything. OK, so that's a riot, the oil companies.

Let's see, a bunch of columnists. We don't care about them. They're insignificant. Bill Moyers. Biggest mouth in town. He's coward number three. All right, Dean is the biggest, Brad King is two, Moyers is three. I mean, Moyers runs around the country giving these paid speeches just defaming every -- oh, he's afraid.

At least Phil Donahue, as much as I detest where he is in his political thinking, at least he's go the courage to come on.

Louisiana Governor Blanco, another coward. And Ward Churchill. Big mouth, Ward. Where is he? OK. That's a list we just threw together this morning, OK, of people -- bomb throwers, people who do this all day long -- and then we got Barbra Streisand, all of these Hollywood people. This is ridiculous. I mean, they're way out of control there. Because they live in a world of entitlement where, well, I don't have to do anything I don't want to do, but I can say anything defamatory about anybody else.

— S.G.

Posted to the web on Thursday October 27, 2005 at 5:03 PM EST

twinkboylover28 · October 28, 2005

RE: O'Reilly's "coward" list

Will the real Michael Moore please stand up!

twinkboylover28 · October 28, 2005

>Yes I searched and found it also.

>Here is what I found

>http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/transcripts_102403_oreilly.html

>IMO,O'liely is a huge bully,a liar,and a fake.The NPR

>ombudsman was wrong in his statement and in any apology-if the

>shoe would have been on the other foot no apology would have

>been likely to have been extended by O'liely or Fox.

>But I am glad you feel he is worthy of your eardrums.And i

>will remember whom you idolize in future post.

BIGGUY ..why did you delete YOUR apology to me commending me on my fact finding skills? LOL

October 28, 2005

RE: ((((( The O'Reilly Sucks Forums )))))

((((( The O'Reilly Sucks Forums )))))

Make sure you visit the O'Reilly Sucks forums. This is where I do the daily updates on the spin and lies put out by Bill O'Reilly. This is the action zone for oreilly-sucks.com, it's like a blog, I post about O'Reilly every day in these forums. Since he lies about something pretty much every day these forums are constantly being updated. This is the most comprehensive listing of O'Reilly's spin and lies on the internet.

<<<<<<<<<<<Things to Remember About Bill O'Reilly>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

More Lies About Tax And Poverty Rates From O'Reilly

9-18-05 -- O'REILLY: Under President Clinton, the tax rate climbed higher than at any time in history except in World War II.

The above statement may be the biggest lie O'Reilly has ever spewed out. When Bill Clinton took office in 1992 he raised the top federal tax rate for people who make over $200,000 a year to 39.6 percent, but he gave tax cuts to the middle and lower class. Other than 6 years during the Reagan years from 1987 to 1992 was the top rate lower than 39.6 percent. From 1939 to 1987 the top rate was 50% or higher. So the above statement from O'Reilly is about as big a lie as anyone could spew out.

9-12-05 -- O'REILLY: Halfway through President Clinton's tenure in office in 1996, the poverty rate was 13.7 percent. Halfway through President Bush's tenure, the rate is 12.7 percent, a full point lower.

O'Reilly is claiming that poverty levels are better under Bush than under Clinton. But when Clinton took office the poverty level was 15.1%, he got it down to 11.3% in 2000. And it went up to 15.1% under George Bush Sr. So when George Bush Jr. took office on 1-20-01 the poverty level was 11.3% because of Clinton. Bush had nothing to do with that, it was Clinton who got it that low. Since Bush took office the poverty level has increased every year from 11.7 percent in 2001, to 12.7 percent in 2004. That is the truth, and a cold hard fact, no spin can disprove that.

Funny how Mr. no spin does not mention any of that, he cherry picks a number from halfway through each presidents 8 year term to spin it for Bush. When the reality is poverty rates have went up every year under Bush. I just want to know why O'Reilly does not get his checks from the Bush white house.

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O'Reilly Lied About French Hurricane Aid Offer

9-9-05 -- O'Reilly lied his ass off (AGAIN) when he reported what the French offered for hurricane relief.

In the 9-5-05 Most Ridiculous Item of the Day O'Reilly said this:

Our great ally France has offered the following in the wake of Katrina: 600 tents, 1,000 cots, some kitchen kits, 60 generators and 12 experts to advise the American Red Cross. I hope they speak English. Now I believe the 4-H Club of Bangor, Maine, has topped that offer.

Why do they even bother? -- Keep your cots.

Here is the full list of what France offered:

France has 35 disaster relief workers ready to leave for the U.S. the minute they are asked

A 60-strong disaster relief team

600 tents

1000 camp beds

60 generators

3 portable water treatment plants

2 planes

2 naval ships

1 hospital ship

Look at what O'Reilly said they offered, and then compare it to what they actually offered. If O'Reilly has a real no spin zone why did he not report everything they offered, and why would you make fun of a country who offers aid to hurricane victims ?

Source: Bloomberg News on French Aid Offer

Now O'Reilly is Lying About The Governor of Louisiana

9-8-05 -- Does O'Reilly ever tell the truth ? Not when you are in the business of spinning and lying for Bush and the Republicans. There is no easy way to say this, Bill O'Reilly is a lying, spinning, right-wing hack who has sold out the American people and put partisan ideology above the good of the people.

From the September 6 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor:

O'REILLY: Now, Governor Blanco also made major mistakes. After asking and getting the federal government to declare the hurricane zone a disaster area two days before the storm hit, the governor failed to send any National Guard troops in to secure New Orleans and the surrounding parishes before the storm. Why? She also failed to ask for more troops from the feds, knowing she only had about 6,000 to control a city of 1.3 million. Why not ask for more? Like the mayor, Governor Blanco has no explanation.

That is a lie and O'Reilly knows it, and it is nothing but right-wing propaganda put out to cover for Bush, FEMA, and the DHS. Your humble no-spin Journalist Bill O'Reilly is part of the Karl Rove plan to shift the blame from Bush and FEMA to the Governor and the Mayor of Louisiana.

O'Reilly said the Governor failed to send the national guard in to secure the city before the storm, and wonders why. Is he braindead, you can not send the guard in before the storm or they could get wiped out too. You have to wait until the storm is gone before you send the guard in, a retarded 5 year old knows that.

O'Reilly also wants to know why the Governor did not ask for more guard troops, and that 6000 was not enough. But what he fails to mention is that 6000 is all the guard troops New Orleans had, the rest are in Iraq. They tell us 40% of their guard units are fighting in Iraq. Once she knew they needed more troops to deal with the flooding etc. she asked for them. Lt. Gen. Steven Blum, chief of the National Guard Bureau, said that to replace those units he had to dispatch personnel from Guard division headquarters in Kansas and Minnesota after the storm struck.

According to Department of Defense officials, Governor Blanco had requested additional Guard personnel before the storm hit.

General Honore stated in a 9-1 briefing, the Governor of Louisiana had requested additional assistance from the federal government "as the hurricane was approaching," beginning with a request on 8-26 that DOD command centers be set up in their states. And by 8-28, Mississippi and Louisiana were collaborating with the National Guard Bureau to have additional security forces sent in.

Then he hammers her for not going on the factor to explain what happened, dont you think the Governor has more important things to do right now than talk to O'Reilly with her whole city flooded and people dying. Not to mention FOX and the Republicans say it is not time to point fingers, yet FOX, O'Reilly, and the Republicans are all pointing fingers at the Mayor and the Governor. While the rest of the country and the world want to know why Bush and FEMA were so late to respond.

Read this for the truth, then ask yourself why Bill O'Reilly is lying to you, and why you should believe anything he says. Remember this, the Hurricane hit at 7:00 AM on Monday August 29th.

Friday, August 26

Governor Blanco declares state of emergency and she requested troop assistance from the Pentagon. This happened on friday, 3 days BEFORE the hurricane hit.

Saturday, August 27

Governor Blanco asks president Bush and FEMA to declare a federal state of emergency in Louisiana.

“I have determined that this incident is of such severity and magnitude that effective response is beyond the capabilities of the State and affected local governments, and that supplementary Federal assistance is necessary to save lives, protect property, public health, and safety, or to lessen or avert the threat of a disaster.” [Office of the Governor]

This was on saturday, 2 full days BEFORE the hurricane hit. That same day, saturday 8-27-05 a federal emergency was declared by Bush and FEMA.

“Specifically, FEMA is authorized to identify, mobilize, and provide at its discretion, equipment and resources necessary to alleviate the impacts of the emergency.” [White House]

Now knowing all that, ask yourself what more the Governor could have done. She declared an emergency 3 days before the hurricane hit. And she asked for federal help (including troops) a full 2 days before the hurricane hit. She even asked Bush to declare a federal emergency so they could bring the full force of the government into the area. Yet O'Reilly blames it on the Governor, is the sky purple in his world ?

The national guard did not get to the convention center until friday 9-2-05, that is 5 days after the hurricane hit. Governor Blanco asked for federal help on saturday 8-27-05, a full 2 days BEFORE the hurricane hit New Orleans.

Dont just believe me, since according to O'Reilly I am just a biased liberal who is lying to hurt Bush. Go read it for yourself, then decide who is lying and who is telling the truth.

Katrina Timeline: The Real No-Spin Truth on Hurricane Katrina

You Are an Extremist if.........

In the 8-24-05 Talking Points Memo Bill O'Reilly said this:

O'REILLY: An extremist is someone who rejects facts and holds on to opinions no matter what.

Now read this, and ask yourself if O'Reilly is rejecting the facts and holding on to his opinions no matter what.

O'REILLY: The administration has accomplished much in Iraq. There is a free media there for the first time. 96 percent of all children have received free medical vaccinations. And new construction is booming.

When the reality is this:

Iraq reconstruction shows 'limited progress'

Need for extra security, money lost to corruption, hinder rebuilding efforts

published August 26, 2005 by the Christian Science Monitor

Reuters reported earlier this month that three US government reports released in July show "ambitious reconstruction goals are falling short."

Soaring security costs are a major stumbling block in what is billed as the biggest US foreign aid operation since the post-World War II reconstruction of Europe.

Congress's investigative arm, the Government Accountability Office [GAO], said in its latest report that as of May 2005, power generation in Iraq was at a lower level than before the US invasion of Iraq in March 2003.

O'Reilly also said that Iraq's oil production is at 97 percent, yet the GAO reports say different.

Iraq's oil output, which U.S. officials initially said would help pay for rebuilding projects, has also dropped in the past two years, said the GAO's report on Iraq reconstruction.

In March 2003, Iraq produced 2.6 million barrels of oil per day and exported 2.1 million barrels daily. By May 2005, Iraq was producing just 2.1 million barrels of oil a day and exporting only 1.4 to 1.6 million barrels a day, said the GAO.

Full Story: The Truth on Iraq Reconstruction

O'Reilly Finally Admits That Most of his Viewers Are Republicans

8-23-05 -- During an Interview with Kris Kobach, a law professor at the University of Missouri-Kansas City, Bill O'Reilly said: "You know there are millions of Bush supporters sitting at home watching us right now."

According to the most recent Nielsen ratings, The Factor had a 2.1 rating and averaged 2.3 million viewers a night for July 2005.

Now this is amazing, O'Reilly finally reported something that is accurate, that the vast majority of his viewers are Republicans.

Full Story: Nielson Ratings

O'Reilly Lied About Air America

8-21-05 -- Bill O'Reilly said that Air America is on the verge of collapse and that their ratings are down in New York. That was his evidence that they are failing, yet he never told you that the ratings for all political talk shows dropped in New York. And that the ratings for conservative talk radio also had big drops in parts of the country.

7-27-05 -- O'REILLY: The Air America radio network continues to fail with catastrophic ratings here in New York City, perhaps the most liberal market in the country.

8-3-05 -- O'REILLY: There's no question the far left in America is on the verge of collapse. And that's a good thing.

Twin Cities listeners have been tuning out political talk radio.

Locally, conservative-talk icon Rush Limbaugh's show has lost 43 percent of its audience among 25- to 54-year-olds in the past year. Sean Hannity's show is down a whopping 63 percent.

The ratings shift hasn't affected partisan radio stations such as WWTC (1280 AM), known as the Patriot, or KTNF (950 AM), home to Air America programming, including Al Franken's weekday show. Both have maintained relatively stable, if small, audience shares of about 1 to 1.5 percent.

Franken is an exception, however. Locally, the Minnesota native has increased his audience share to 2.4 percent of listeners ages 25 to 54, compared with 1.3 last year.

Full Story: Twin Cities listeners tuning out political talk radio

He also failed to mention that in a little over a year Air America has increased their total listeners from 1.3. million to 3.1 million and from 4 stations to 70 stations. And that Air America ratings are up in 9 states. They are: Los Angeles, Washington D.C., Phoenix, Portland, Ore., Cincinnati, Denver, Honolulu, Memphis and Miami, according to the Arbitron Spring survey. The biggest thing he fails to mention is that Air America is the #1 rated radio station on the internet, and that those people are not counted in the ratings. Al Frankens show is the #1 streamed radio show on the internet, O'Reilly never reports any of that information, no spin ?

What O'Reilly did was cherry pick the ratings from one city to make it look like nobody wants to listen to liberal talk radio, and that Air America is failing. After reading the above facts how can you still believe he has a no spin zone. If anyone believes that please e-mail me and explain to me how that is possible.

Bill O'Reilly Lied to You About Clinton, Gorelick, & Able Danger

8-19-05 -- Yes I am calling Bill O'Reilly a LIAR, and if I was not telling the truth he would sue me, which he has not done and never will, because I am telling you the truth. This is conclusive proof that O'Reilly is a liar and part of the right-wing smear machine.

The O'Reilly Factor, 8/17/05

O'REILLY: It is now clear that Army intelligence had identified Mohammed Atta as a dangerous terrorist more than a year before Atta led the 9/11 attack. An Army group called Able Danger got the information, but did not pass it along to the FBI and tell the bureau that Atta was actually inside the USA.

Why? Because of a policy instituted by Attorney General Janet Reno and her deputy Jamie Gorelick. The women erroneously believed that potential criminal activity could not be pinpointed by any U.S. military intelligence operation. That's insane.

Now, longtime Factor viewers will remember that I called Janet Reno the worst attorney general in history because the woman simply refused to aggressively pursue wrongdoing and was a political player, not a law enforcement officer in my opinion.

As for Miss Gorelick, who also served on the 9/11 Commission, she obviously made an enormous mistake. If she had done the right thing, 9/11 could have been prevented.

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Wrong, that is all lies put out by O'Reilly and the right-wing smear machine, here are the facts.

But, as the 1995 guidelines clearly state, the Gorelick memo and the guidelines applied only to intelligence sharing "between the FBI and the Criminal Division" within the Justice Department, not a military unit established by the Defense Department.

9-11 Commission executive director Philip Zelikow also clearly noted during the commission's hearings that the "wall" applied only to the Justice Department: "Over time, the wall requirement came to be interpreted by the Justice Department, and particularly the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, as imposing an increasingly stringent barrier to communications between FBI intelligence agents and criminal prosecutors."

If Able Danger did in fact identify Atta, the Gorelick memo and the subsequent 1995 Clinton administration guidelines based on it did not prevent the group from sharing that information with intelligence agencies or law enforcement officials.

In fact, the "wall" was established well before President Clinton took office; according to the 1995 memo itself, Gorelick intended to codify procedures for the sharing of information between intelligence agencies and law enforcement officials to make sure evidence gathered by such agencies would be admissible in criminal prosecutions. The "wall" was built before the Clinton administration and retained by the Bush administration.

The joint House and Senate intelligence committees' report of pre-September 11 intelligence failures assessed that the "wall" was "constructed over 60 years," and a 2002 ruling of the top-secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court of Review found that the "wall" originated "at some point during the 1980s."

Further, the current Bush administration maintained the "wall" to at least the same extent that the Clinton administration did. A memo issued by Ashcroft's deputy attorney general Larry D. Thompson in August 2001 reauthorized the "wall" and even proposed expanding it by prescribing "additional requirements."

None of that was reported by O'Reilly, ever.

Full Story: http://www.mediamatters.org

What Fox News Channel Would Have Done to Rosa Parks

8-15-05 -- Cindy Sheehan – in case you’ve been living in a box or you only watch the mainstream media – is the mom of slain Iraq War veteran Casey Sheehan. She is protesting in front of George Bush’s Crawford ranch this month. This grieving mom has been characterized as a flip-flopper, a crackpot, accused of putting on a public circus, lambasted as a publicity seeking grandstander and criticized for not truly speaking for her family since an aunt and a godmother Matt Drudge found somewhere in the Sheehan family disagrees with her. The conservative attack machine is in high gear in the efforts to tear this woman down.

That made me think of how it would have been in the Civil Rights era if Fox News Channel, Rush Limbaugh, Matt Drudge and the rest of the gang were around back then.

Full Story: What Fox News Channel Would Have Done to Rosa Parks

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The Real No-Spin Story on The Karl Rove CIA Leak Case

The Yellowcake forgery refers to a set of false documents that were used in the justification of the 2003 invasion of Iraq. The documents suggested that Iraq attempted to buy yellowcake uranium from Niger. In the 2003 State of the Union address by President George W. Bush and in Secretary of State Colin Powell's address to the United Nations Security Council, Bush and Powell cited the forgeries as "indisputable" evidence that Iraq was developing nuclear weapons.

The documents had long been suspected as frauds by United States intelligence, and had been investigated and discounted well before these 2003 presentations. Barbro Owen-Kirkpatrick, Ambassador to Niger, had investigated and "debunked" claims of yellowcake sales to Iraq. In early 2002, Ambassador Joseph Wilson had been dispatched to Niger to investigate the claim of yellowcake sales, prompted by an intelligence report, based on the forgeries, which had been circulated from Vice President Dick Cheney's office. On February 22, 2002 Wilson reported to the CIA and the State Department that the information was "unequivocally wrong."

On March 7, 2003, only days before the invasion, the Director General of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) released results of his analysis of the documents. Reportedly, it took IAEA officials only a matter of hours to determine that these documents were fake. Using little more than a Google search, IAEA experts discovered indications of a crude forgery, such as the use of incorrect names of Niger officials. As a result, the IAEA reported to the U.N. Security Council that the documents were "in fact not authentic."

Soon thereafter, the documents became generally accepted by the press as falsified. In July 2003, conservative commentator Patrick Buchanan stated, "The truth now, we know, is that a forgery was put together to get this country into a war with Iraq, that forgery found its way into our intelligence agencies, it found its way into the State of the Union, and the president of the United States should show more indignation and outrage that this was done." Buchanan added, "Somebody in our own government knew very well that was a forgery, and they advanced it on up the line."

Full Story Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowcake_Forgery

Wilsons wife suggested he go to Niger for the CIA because he was the former ambassador to Africa. So they sent him, she did not send him, and if he was not qualified to do the job, do you think the CIA would have sent him ?

What Wilson found were badly forged documents, those were the documents Bush was using to claim Saddam tried to buy uranium from Niger. They were so bad it was funny, the signature on the documents were from a guy who did not even work for the government in Niger for 11 years. They were clearly forged documents, and very bad forgeries. Joe Wilson was right, he did not lie about anything.

Bush used the statement that Saddam tried to buy uranium from Niger in his state of the union speech. Even though it was proven that Saddam did not try to buy uranium from Niger. Even Colon Powell admitted it, and everyone else. Then Joe Wilson wrote the op-ed because he knew Bush was lying about the uranium story. Joe Wilson was 100 percent right, and he did a good job getting to the truth.

This embarrassed Bush and his gang of liars, so they decided to out his CIA agent wife for revenge and ruin her career. It also sent a message to anyone else who might dare tell the truth about the Bush administration that if you do we will get you or your wife, or both.

Then Karl Rove had someone call 5 or 6 reporters to leak Valerie Plames name for revenge. Rove probably did not make the call personally, he probably had someone else do it. Only one reporter published it, Bob Novak. We do not know all the details, but we do know someone in the top level of the Bush administration leaked a CIA agents name as revenge for Joe Wilson telling the truth about Bush lying in the state of the union speech.

This is a fact, no right-wing spin by anyone can change that. Here is another article that backs up what I said and explains a lot.

WHO LIED TO WHOM?

Why did the Administration endorse a forgery about Iraq’s nuclear program?

It took Baute’s team only a few hours to determine that the documents were fake. The agency had been given about a half-dozen letters and other communications between officials in Niger and Iraq, many of them written on letterheads of the Niger government. The problems were glaring. One letter, dated October 10, 2000, was signed with the name of Allele Habibou, a Niger Minister of Foreign Affairs and Coöperation, who had been out of office since 1989.

Another letter, allegedly from Tandja Mamadou, the President of Niger, had a signature that had obviously been faked and a text with inaccuracies so egregious, the senior I.A.E.A. official said, that “they could be spotted by someone using Google on the Internet.”

Full Story Here: http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?030331fa_fact1

In conclusion, not only did George W. Bush use a known forgery to justify the Iraq war in his state of the union speech, Joe Wilson's report on the forged documents was correct, so he did not lie about anything. Anyone who says he did is just covering for Rove and Bush. Notice that only Republicans and right-wing sources are calling Joe Wilson a liar, that should tell you a lot. The question is, were the documents forged, and was Joe Wilson correct when he said they were. The answer to both questions is yes, the documents were forged, and Joe Wilson was correct to report it. Everything else is just right-wing spin to protect Rove, Bush, and his administration.

October 28, 2005

>Liberal radio in general, such as NPR and Liberal Al Franken's

>"Air America," are struggling for listeners.

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>Air America can barely even call themself a "network." They

>have resorted to "PBS style tactics" of begging their

>listeners for money, despite the fact they have received

>millions from far-left George Soros.