Decreased activity on this site?

[Rick Munroe]

>I have always fantasized about the Munroe

>Monument and strategically placing my tongue in that portal of

>heaven.

 

That's funny. I have the same fantasy, but from the opposite direction. }(

[Rick Munroe]

>So, how about Rick and Derek's new HOT pics? :9

 

Jeff, don't you know we escorts are supposed to be competitive and bitchy? Thanks for noticing...

[Rick Munroe]

>I agree, let's all talk instead about all the sexy things we

>can do with (or to) Rick's hot ass. :9

 

Fuck the talk; let's just start the action. }(

[happyguy2]

I have stopped posting and only lurk once in a while.

 

There is one main reason: I was sickened by the outing of a client by an escort on the other site, but which has been discussed here. I lost all interest as a result.

 

hg

[woodlawn]

>Don't you KNOW that you are on HB's site, and not that

>escortspeak site??? NO???, then WAKE UP!, as your name

>calling, nasty, death wishing/violence threatening diatribes

>are not welcome here and should not be tolerated here???, and

>most likely violate the TOS of this site?

 

I am amazed that you have the nerve to lecture other posters on the TOS here, considering the fact that YOU were banned from this message board just a few months ago for violating the very same TOS.

[BlueFlame]

The Sky is falling, The Sky is falling

 

Various dubious characters have been proclaiming the demise of the M4M web site for the last several months. One impeachable source recently said: Nobody can deny that participation and interest here has been rapidly plummeting for some time, with no end in sight.

 

Since all these characters are such fervent supporters of another message center, EscortSpeaks, lets see how the two measure up. A quick cruise over that way brings up the following stats.

[blockquote]

Founded: May 22, 2005

Daily Posts: 41 Total Posts: 6070

Daily Visits: 2681 Total Visits: 472017

 

146 Registered Members

[/blockquote]

Each of the M4M messages has a "Member since xxx" line, so lets find some members that registered around the same time period: Lets see, ript4hire - #104868 registered on Mar 23rd and tuesclayo - #105323 registered on Sep 13th. So in roughly the same period of time, it would appear that M4M gained 505 users compared to 146 users over at EscortSpeaks. So much for the Lack of Interest!

 

Now lets look what people that are doing. M4Ms "Check whos online" tell us that in the last month M4M has had 513 users and 9,529 guests. Multiply by four and we can roughly guess that M4M had about 2,052 users and 38,119 guests.

 

The only problem is thats just guessing and it really doesnt tell us anything about the posting patterns. What to do? I know, we'll go to the source. I wrote Daddy and asked what the posting stats are and the next day got the following back:

[blockquote]Hi, I don't have time to boil the data down, but your welcome to compile it yourself. The attached CSV file contains the daily summaries for that period. Regards, Daddy[/blockquote]

Attached was a file that I was able to import into Excel and come up with the following figures. For the same time period, M4M had about 117,200 unique computers, and 18,432 posts. At the start of the period, M4M was averaging about 145 posts/day. At the end of the period M4M was averging about 132 posts/day. While I would love to report on the "Number of visits", the data didn't have enought detail. But with 117,200 unique computers I think we can safely say: So much for the Lack of Participation!

 

Nash your teeth all you want to, but the facts certainly add up to something quite different from what a handful of malcontents are attempting to foist off on the M4M users. M4M lost about 150 users (or did they?), gained about 500 users, all at a cost of about 13 posts a day. I for one don't miss those 13 posts a day considering where they came from and the demeanor that they gave the M4M message center.

 

BlueFlame

[woodlawn]

RE: The Sky is falling, The Sky is falling

 

>Nash your teeth all you want to, but the facts certainly add

>up to something quite different from what a handful of

>malcontents are attempting to foist off on the M4M users.

 

"Malcontents" is a word normally used by those who preach conformity above all and denigrate those who don't wish to conform. It's not a very appropriate word for a gay man living in America to use.

 

 

> I for one don't miss

>those 13 posts a day considering where they came from and the

>demeanor that they gave the M4M message center.

 

But obviously there are others who do miss them, since that is why this thread was started.

 

I for one don't pay attention to any claims made by the management of this site, since it is the management's credibility problem that has led to the departure of a several people who used to post here regularly.

 

Nor do I care how many posters come to this site and how many posters come to the other. There are not more than a dozen posters here who have anything even remotely interesting to say, and if all of the others disappeared from this board forever it wouldn't change my reading habits a bit. Likewise, it hardly matters to me that there are only a handful of regular posters at the other site, since almost all of them are posters I want to read; given the number of posters in this thread who indicate that they also read the regulars on Escortspeak, I'm obviously not the only one who feels that way.

[Guest jeffOH]

>Jeff, don't you know we escorts are supposed to be competitive

>and bitchy?

 

Of course, you're right. Don't worry, I'll be sure to put a picture of you in my scrapbook of people I hate and write something bitchy under it. ;-)

[BlueFlame]

RE: The Sky is falling, The Sky is falling

 

>"Malcontents" is a word normally used by those who preach

>conformity above all and denigrate those who don't wish to

>conform. It's not a very appropriate word for a gay man

>living in America to use.

 

But the word means: "Dissatisfied with existing conditions"

 

Most of us would be considered "Malcontents" when it comes to the issue of Gay marriage, and we definitely are in the minority in that area. So your assertion that it is an inappropriate word for a Gay Man in America seems to be fairly hollow.

 

But thank-you for playing.

 

>But obviously there are others who do miss them, since that is

>why this thread was started.

 

Yes, and when you look through the list of players, it's the same old people beating on the same old drum to the same old ragged beat.

 

>I for one don't pay attention to any claims made by the

>management of this site, since it is the management's

>credibility problem that has led to the departure of a several

>people who used to post here regularly.

 

So if they make the claim, you'll continue to ignore them. Works for me, Doesn't matter to me if your going to hide in your shell.

 

>Nor do I care how many posters come to this site and how many

>posters come to the other. There are not more than a dozen

>posters here who have anything even remotely interesting to

>say, and if all of the others disappeared from this board

>forever it wouldn't change my reading habits a bit. Likewise,

>it hardly matters to me that there are only a handful of

>regular posters at the other site, since almost all of them

>are posters I want to read; given the number of posters in

>this thread who indicate that they also read the regulars on

>Escortspeak, I'm obviously not the only one who feels that

>way.

 

Oh, so your saying that there are a dozen people here that you enjoy reading and a handful of people over there that you enjoy reading.

 

I glad that you cleared that up for me. You definitely have your cake and get to eat it too. I'm starting to like you more and more.

[+ Lucky]

RE: Fire and Rain

 

My daddy can whip your daddy, anyday!!

 

There, I said it! Now, who the hell is Blue Flame? A great name for a flame war, but seriously, why would someone with only three posts want to go to the trouble of digesting all of those statistics and care so much that this site shows better than the other? And now he likes woodlawn! We have seen this before, and we know how it will end!

Enjoy, guys. I think Doug is right on this one...these battles are popular.

 

Blue Flame, don't get burnt! We'd like you to stay around!

[BlueFlame]

RE: Fire and Rain

 

Why Lucky, you silver tongued fox! You can be my Daddy anytime you want. After all, you did manage to get me to post more in one day than I've done in an entire year.

 

But to answer your question, I was that very drunk queen in the Jacuzzi over in the corner. I didn't mind it when they started peeing in the water, but when I started seeing suspicious looking lumps floating around, I knew it was time.

 

Let's just say it got my panties in a wad when I found out that those lumps weren't snickers bars.

 

BlueFlame

[VaHawk]

RE: The Sky is falling, The Sky is falling

 

>"Malcontents" is a word normally used by those who preach

>conformity above all and denigrate those who don't wish to

>conform. It's not a very appropriate word for a gay man

>living in America to use.

 

GET REAL! All this from the man who put the wire hanger in the closet???? The very dude, who RAILS against gay pride day parades and the sterotyped "drag queens", "leather queens" and "bare breasted lesbians" as portraying the "worst" of gay life and as such, a detriment to gays everywhere?

 

 

>> I for one don't miss

>>those 13 posts a day considering where they came from and

>the

>>demeanor that they gave the M4M message center.

>

>But obviously there are others who do miss them, since that is

>why this thread was started.

 

Nah! no one misses the banned troglodytes! How disingenuous of you to try to state that this is "why" this thread was started! You might, just MIGHT have a point on why it continues to flourish, however!

>

>I for one don't pay attention to any claims made by the

>management of this site, since it is the management's

>credibility problem that has led to the departure of a several

>people who used to post here regularly.

 

YAWN!!! I'd donate $1000 if only management could come up with just ONE policy that would lead to your departure!

 

>

>Nor do I care how many posters come to this site and how many

>posters come to the other. There are not more than a dozen

>posters here who have anything even remotely interesting to

>say, and if all of the others disappeared from this board

>forever it wouldn't change my reading habits a bit.

 

Cool DUDE!, that makes at least a dozen that have something more interesting to say than your very own tired, trite, repetitive observations. Now, ask yourself how many DOZENS of people would keep reading if you, your very self, disappeared for all time! WTF, God has never been that benevolent!

 

>Likewise, it hardly matters to me that there are only a handful of

>regular posters at the other site, since almost all of them

>are posters I want to read; given the number of posters in

>this thread who indicate that they also read the regulars on

>Escortspeak, I'm obviously not the only one who feels that

>way.

 

Of course! MOST of them AGREE with your spiteful, ugly posts at the other site!, as you are all wrongly "abused sisters"! over there! Keep on talking to all 4 of your "sisters" over there, but OBVIOUSLY you all bore the living shit out of each other, considering that those who can do so, continue to post here, and those who can not do so, continuously have NOTHING to opine about over there than the very posters on this site and their postings that they cut and paste over there!

>

[Guest Conway]

Actually, it's far more freakish than that. But, those of you who are part of the spectacle don't realize it.

[woodlawn]

RE: The Sky is falling, The Sky is falling

 

The very dude, who RAILS against gay pride

>day parades and the sterotyped "drag queens", "leather queens"

>and "bare breasted lesbians" as portraying the "worst" of gay

>life and as such, a detriment to gays everywhere?

 

I don't know where you got the phrases you're quoting above, but I defy you to find them in any post of mine. Try it.

 

 

>Nah! no one misses the banned troglodytes! How disingenuous

>of you to try to state that this is "why" this thread was

>started!

 

Telling you to stop lying is like telling anyone else to stop breathing.

 

>YAWN!!! I'd donate $1000 if only management could come up with

>just ONE policy that would lead to your departure!

 

They've already come up with one that led to YOUR departure. In case the booze is affecting your memory again, you were banned for violating the TOS just a few months ago.

 

>Cool DUDE!, that makes at least a dozen that have something

>more interesting to say than your very own tired, trite,

>repetitive observations.

 

But no matter how trite they are, you keep reading and responding to them, again and again and again, just like one of Pavlov's dogs.

 

 

>Of course! MOST of them AGREE with your spiteful, ugly posts

>at the other site!, as you are all wrongly "abused sisters"!

>over there! Keep on talking to all 4 of your "sisters" over

>there, but OBVIOUSLY you all bore the living shit out of each

>other,

 

As everyone here knows, you are one of the most frequent posters on Escortspeak, and your posts consist of absolutely nothing but hateful remarks directed at the other people who post there. Could your hypocrisy and dishonesty be any more obvious? Surely not.

[woodlawn]

RE: The Sky is falling, The Sky is falling

 

>>"Malcontents" is a word normally used by those who preach

>>conformity above all and denigrate those who don't wish to

>>conform. It's not a very appropriate word for a gay man

>>living in America to use.

 

>But the word means: "Dissatisfied with existing conditions"

 

I didn't refer to the word's dictionary definition, but to the manner in which it is commonly used. Perhaps your remedial English teacher could explain the difference to you, if you ask nicely.

 

 

>Yes, and when you look through the list of players, it's the

>same old people beating on the same old drum to the same old

>ragged beat.

 

I don't recognize the poster who started this thread as one of the "same old people." Just keep working on those reading skills and you'll catch up someday.

 

 

>So if they make the claim, you'll continue to ignore them.

 

That's the only response that makes sense when one is dealing with people who have a reputation for dishonesty.

 

 

>Oh, so your saying that there are a dozen people here that you

>enjoy reading and a handful of people over there that you

>enjoy reading.

 

More or less. The difference between this board and that one is that here the vast majority of threads are of absolutely no interest to me, while there the vast majority are of interest.

 

> I'm starting to like you

>more and more.

 

I'm afraid the feeling isn't mutual. But I'm sure I can think of something nice to say about you if I put my mind to it. How about this: if we were to tear your skin off and tan it properly, it would probably make an excellent pair of shoes.

[BlueFlame]

RE: The Sky is falling, The Sky is falling

 

>I didn't refer to the word's dictionary definition, but to the

>manner in which it is commonly used. Perhaps your remedial

>English teacher could explain the difference to you, if you

>ask nicely.

 

Why Thank-you! He said: "A dictionary defines the correct usage of the word, not necessarily the common usage." We'll let you be common, I'll choose to be correct.

 

>I don't recognize the poster who started this thread as one of

>the "same old people." Just keep working on those reading

>skills and you'll catch up someday.

 

Did you misplace your glasses? I recognized him and I even took the time to research the first question and answered it. So what have you been doing? But perhaps your responses answers one of his other questions. You know the one talking about "Less Interesting"?

 

>That's the only response that makes sense when one is dealing

>with people who have a reputation for dishonesty.

 

How about: "Don't shop there"

 

>More or less. The difference between this board and that one

>is that here the vast majority of threads are of absolutely no

>interest to me, while there the vast majority are of interest.

 

Then why are you over here? Cool, I'm starting to smell a conspiracy!

 

Let me guess! Your bored, and you wanted to add excitement to our mundane existence. OK, Whatever floats your boat, but couldn't you do it in less boring way?

 

>I'm afraid the feeling isn't mutual. But I'm sure I can think

>of something nice to say about you if I put my mind to it.

>How about this: if we were to tear your skin off and tan it

>properly, it would probably make an excellent pair of shoes.

>

 

What a marvelous idea! I think I'll write a song about it. How about "Don't step on my Blue Flame Shoes"

 

It's a shame the feeling isn't mutual, I'm starting to like your style more and more.

 

It's so easy! When you can't think of anything else, simply throw out a strawman argument or threaten them with violence. Takes the focus completely off the logical or factual arguments, and degenerates it into a name calling cesspool.

 

But wait a minute, that so aptly describes the other message center. I could of sworn that we moved away from that type of adolescent behavior here. Oh! I get it, you want both message centers to be that type of environment.

 

Thank-you for playing.

[+ deej]

RE: The Sky is falling, The Sky is falling

 

Have you ever noticed you always feel good after eating pizza?

[digicamman]

Just look at posts such as "Please help me. Am I delusional?" to realize why no one of interest is posting anymore. I'm just here out of boredom tonight and read "Please help me. Am I delusional?" and couldn't believe the stupidity--if that's what posts are about now, I'll do something more productive next time I'm bored and feel the urge to read here. But hopefully this answers your question.

[woodlawn]

RE: The Sky is falling, The Sky is falling

 

>Why Thank-you! He said: "A dictionary defines the correct

>usage of the word, not necessarily the common usage." We'll

>let you be common, I'll choose to be correct.

 

You want to be correct? See below.

 

 

>Did you misplace your glasses? I recognized him

 

Then perhaps you can point out to us the other posts he has created that make him one of the "same old" group of "malcontents" you referred to. Well?

 

 

>How about: "Don't shop there"

 

That seems good as well.

 

 

>Then why are you over here?

 

Because I'm not so lazy that I mind sifting through a large pile of dross in order to get a few interesting nuggets. That's what one has to do here.

 

>Let me guess! Your bored,

 

> I could of sworn

 

If you want to be "correct," ask your remedial English teacher what is wrong with the locutions you use above.

[VaHawk]

RE: The Sky is falling, The Sky is falling

 

>I don't know where you got the phrases you're quoting above,

>but I defy you to find them in any post of mine. Try it.

>

 

CLUE! I'm not QUOTING and never said I was (although I'm sure you feel your musings are "pearls of wisdom" that should be written down and taught to all succeeding generations ala Confucius), just reiterating the "attitude and opinings" you have stated in other threads on this very site. Sorry, but I really don't have time to search the archives and quote your very words, as I find your musings WAAAY too boring to go to all that effort.

>

>Telling you to stop lying is like telling anyone else to stop

>breathing.

 

Not lying here, how about you?

>

>They've already come up with one that led to YOUR departure.

>In case the booze is affecting your memory again, you were

>banned for violating the TOS just a few months ago.

 

So YOU say, but since you were not involved in ANY of the correspondence between myself and the people who own/administer this site, you are ONCE AGAIN, just speculating and trying to INSIST that your speculations are facts, and not just your ill-informed speculations!

 

>But no matter how trite they are, you keep reading and

>responding to them, again and again and again, just like one

>of Pavlov's dogs.

 

You of ALL people are accusing someone of responding like a dog to Pavlov's bell? Now THAT is funny as hell!! Anyone want to take odds as to whether woodlawn responds to this posting?

>

>As everyone here knows, you are one of the most frequent

>posters on Escortspeak, and your posts consist of absolutely

>nothing but hateful remarks directed at the other people who

>post there. Could your hypocrisy and dishonesty be any more

>obvious? Surely not.

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Why shouldn't I post over there?, as the s the handful of "wronged queens" regulars who post there AMUSE me to no end!, especially since it seems SO MANY of the postings are nasty comments about me that advocate my death from the most nastiest of scenarios, including more than one by you, yourself, most HYPOCRITICAL one! Hey, if it wasn't for me, and a couple of others, to stir you girls' indignations, just who would you people amuse yourself with? Surely not yourselves, as you OBVIOUSLY bore the living shit out of each other, as evidenced by the content of the posting on that site!

 

BTW: Do you think that maybe, just MAYBE, it is time to give up your free, repeat FREE advertising of that other site, on this site?

 

Now RAIL on in reply and CONTINUE to amaze us all with your ASTOUNDING grasp of logic! :7

[woodlawn]

RE: The Sky is falling, The Sky is falling

 

>CLUE! I'm not QUOTING and never said I was

 

Oops! It must have been the quotation marks you used that made me think you were quoting. How silly of me!

 

 

> Sorry, but I

>really don't have the time or the brains to search the archives and quote your very words, as I find it so much easier to make up shit and claim you said it!

 

As I always suspected.

 

>your musings are WAAAY too boring to go to

>all that effort. So boring that I spend a huge amount of time >reading them so that I tell you how boring they are.

 

Well, that makes sense.

 

>Not lying here, I'm standing up -- with hemorrhoids the size of golf >balls it's the only position I can manage.

 

Sorry to hear about that.

 

>So YOU say, but since you were not involved in ANY of the

>correspondence between myself and the people who

>own/administer this site, you are ONCE AGAIN, just speculating

 

No, I'm not speculating. Since you were banned at the time, you may not be aware of the fact that Daddy created a post explaining the reason for your banishment. According to him, you were becoming "too shrill." Unless you are saying he's lying?

 

>and trying to INSIST that your speculations are facts, and not

>just your ill-informed speculations!

 

You certainly look stupid claiming I don't know the reason for your banishment, when the fact is that Daddy posted the reason for all of us to read.

 

>You of ALL people are accusing someone of responding like a

>dog to Pavlov's bell? Now THAT is funny as hell!! Because it is absolutely correct!!!!

 

>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Why shouldn't I post over there and then >come here and scream insults at people for doing exactly the same >thing I do. Everyone knows I'm a lousy hypocrite, so I have nothing >much to lose.

 

Well, I can't argue with that.

[VaHawk]

RE: The Sky is falling, The Sky is falling

 

GAME, SET, MATCH! just as predicted! :7

[BlueFlame]

RE: The Sky is falling, The Sky is falling

 

Old Town Pizza just around the corner form Darcelle's in Old Town Portland. Wonderful Pizza (or at least the it was the last time I was there) servered by some of the cutest waiters; if your there at the proper time.

 

Then on to the Oldest (and Best) Drag show on the West Coast, followed up by the Male strippers at Midnight. Now that's a fun night. So Yes, a great way to feel good after a pizza!

 

Come to think about it, I haven't done Portland in a while, Maybe we can load the portable Jacuzzi into the van and wander down that way. After all, it would appear that we're starting to get some of those odd lumps out of the water

 

BlueFlame

[BlueFlame]

RE: The Sky is falling, The Sky is falling

 

>You want to be correct? See below.

 

Another strawman argument? My oh My, You seem to be losing ground here. But I have complete faith that if you continue to play that you eventually get better at it. But do try harder!

 

>Then perhaps you can point out to us the other posts he has

>created that make him one of the "same old" group of

>"malcontents" you referred to. Well?

 

But I said: "I recognized him and I even took the time to research the first question and answered it."

 

Now for the Dictionary deprived, I obviously was using the 3rd definition: "To perceive or show acceptance of the validity or reality of"

 

>That seems good as well.

 

Now we're getting somewhere, We actually starting to find points where we agree. Can we start on the motivations involved next?

 

>Because I'm not so lazy that I mind sifting through a large

>pile of dross in order to get a few interesting nuggets.

>That's what one has to do here.

 

You debating skills appear to be rusty which would imply a bit of lazyness. Now that your back in the saddle I suspect that you'll come back up to a reasonable level.

 

>If you want to be "correct," ask your remedial English teacher

>what is wrong with the locutions you use above.

 

Oh how fun! You used a new word even if some purists would say in a questionable manner.

 

You've managed to raise this thread to new levels of entertainment, all the while supporting my original argument that level of interest and participation is still high. Bravo! Well Done!

 

Thank-you for playing.

[Guest OralBtm4Top]

From my standpoint the decreased activity began as the approach to reviews changed. Previously reviews were done 7 days a week. Now reviews are done Monday through Friday, and in some cases like this week, reviews are only done four times a week. The new reviews draw posters to the site.