Fox Unable To Convict Aruba Teen

[Guest jeffOH]

I'm just glad the news/talk show ratings Wh ores have mostly shut up about Aruba/Natalee, Overboard-bridegroom George Smith and Olivia Newton-John's missing boyfriend, except for CNN's Nancy Grace, who's still found time to breathlessly "update" us in between reports of Katrina's death & destruction.

[FLJohn]

Lucky, I feel so great that you probably had an orgasism that "FOX" couldn't put the "blame" yet on the teenager's death on poor Natalie. And I am sure that "FOX" hasn't been able to show that all the snipers in NO are not white repuplicans. Must give you a double orgasism. And to give you a triple orgasm, try to think about the mayor (sorry he is black) and the governor. These are the people that shoud be taken to task. I am not saying Bush is innocent, but it was up to those two people to start everything going. The Mayor and Governor deserve everthing thrown at them and I hope it will.

 

But then, you will only blame Bush. Such a shame that you can't open you mind to the truth.

[+ Lucky]

If I opened my mind I might have an orgasism!

[Guest alanm]

There is certainly enough blame to go around, but even many Republicans

are critical of the president. Bush himself said yesterday that not enough has been done by the federal government. I am glad the president is going back to NO on Monday. I may dislike Bush, but am far more interested in helping the victim of Katrina get their lives back. You should be too, instead of making that silly comment: "open your eyes."

[+ deej]

>If I opened my mind I might have an orgasism!

 

I'll send a card. Tell me whether it's a boy or girl. Or green. ;-)

[Rick Munroe]

>try to think about the mayor (sorry he is black) and

>the governor. These are the people that shoud be taken to

>task. I am not saying Bush is innocent, but it was up to those

>two people to start everything going.

 

That's not true. All responsibility fell on FEMA and they screwed up big time. Read this: http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/09/last-saturday-bush-gave-fema-authority.html

[JT Brooklyn]

With ALL the Political Photo Ops avail, where the Hell has the "Vice President" been? Nobody has seen him once anywhere? This is who takes over Command, another joke! The Fact that the BUSH Administration in 2002 took back Millions of Dollars that was allocated to go to the "Gulfport Project" and gave it to "Homeland Security" is going to be one of the "Highlights" of this Administration.... This major Disaster, like the War, which the Administration has no idea how to end, is different in that, The Republicans cannot hide behind "Patriotism" to cover up there mistakes anymore! So much for the Bush 'Divine' Decisions! :+

[tanman4u]

Do we really need Bush or Rice or any of the other politicos there for photo ops? Wherever the President or any of his cabinet goes, everything is shutdown for hours before during and after for security purposes. Let the officials on site keep doing what they're doing rather than having to pause to lead yet another politician around. Bush can see the devastation on the TV just like the rest of us. Stay the hell away, do your job (for a change) and do some leading.

[Guest zipperzone]

>except for CNN's Nancy Grace, who's still found time to >breathlessly "update" us in between reports of Katrina's death & >destruction.

 

Isn't she just the biggest douche bag you ever knew?

[Guest zipperzone]

>Do we really need Bush or Rice or any of the other politicos

>there for photo ops?

 

And did you happen to see what Rice was wearing - a white suit that I bet didn't cost a penny under 5 grand! And let's not forget her Farragamos.

 

You'd have thought the silly bitch would have had enough common sense to show up in more appropriate clothing - it't ain't the Easter Parade, Condi!

[Guest ncm2169]

< I am not saying Bush is innocent, but it was up to those two people to start everything going. The Mayor and Governor deserve everthing thrown at them and I hope it will. >

 

With all due respect, I suggest you get your fucking facts straight. Here's the history which the Bush Administration and Faux News is busy trying to re-write:

 

August 26: Blanco declares a state level state of emergency:

 

http://gov.louisiana.gov/Press_Release_detail.asp?id=973

 

August 27: Blanco asks the president to declare a federal state of emergency for the state of Louisiana:

 

http://gov.louisiana.gov/Press_Release_detail.asp?id=976

 

August 27: Bush declares a federal state of emergency for Louisiana:

 

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/08/20050827-1.html

[VaHawk]

"And did you happen to see what Rice was wearing - a white suit that I bet didn't cost a penny under 5 grand! And let's not forget her Farragamos.

 

WTF does how much a rich woman spends on her clothes/shoes have to do with anything?

 

You'd have thought the silly bitch would have had enough common sense to show up in more appropriate clothing - it't ain't the Easter Parade, Condi!

 

Don't be so HARSH. It's Labor Day weekend, and EVERYONE knows it is not fashionable to wear white after Labor Day, so her clothing was her last chance to wear what's fashionable and in season!!! :-)

[+ Lucky]

As I looked back on this thread, I was amazed at how it became about Katrina and not Aruba! But the Republican Katrina commission has issued its scathing report, the vice-president has re-appeared, and the Holloways have sued young Joran...in New York! As though their is any jurisdiction here for something that happened in Aruba. Just shows how anxious they are for publicity.

 

I still haven't had an orgasism!

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Feb 16, 8:46 PM EST

 

Parents of teen missing in Aruba sue Dutch youth in New York

 

By SAMUEL MAULL

Associated Press Writer

 

NEW YORK (AP) -- The parents of Natalee Holloway, the Alabama teen who went missing during a high school graduation class trip in Aruba last May, have sued a youth who was questioned in connection with her disappearance.

 

The lawsuit, filed late Thursday in Manhattan's state Supreme Court, seeks unspecified money damages against Joran van der Sloot, 18, and his father. Both were served with a summons while in New York, Holloway family lawyer Scott Balber said.

 

Holloway, 18, of Mountain Brook, Ala., was last seen May 30 leaving a bar with Surinamese brothers Deepak Kalpoe, 21, and Satish Kalpoe, 18, and van der Sloot, a Dutch national. The honors student was hours from ending her graduation trip.

 

The lawsuit was filed by Elizabeth Ann Twitty, of Alabama, and Dave Edward Holloway, of Mississippi, the missing teen's mother and father.

 

Van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers were arrested June 9, 2005, on suspicion of involvement in Holloway's disappearance. Van der Sloot admitted he was with the teen but denied any wrongdoing. All were released, and nobody has been charged.

 

Referring to van der Sloot as "the predator," the lawsuit says that on at least three occasions young Aruban women have complained they were the victims of "date rape" by him and his accomplices.

 

Van der Sloot left Aruba, where his father still lives, and currently lives in Arnhem, the Netherlands, court papers say.

 

The lawsuit says the father, Paulus van der Sloot, was an enabler of his son's "violent and anti-social lifestyle." Court papers say that on the night of May 29, 2005, he went with his underage son to a casino to play poker. It was at that casino that the younger van der Sloot met Holloway, the lawsuit says.

 

The court papers present a partly speculative version of what happened after the young people left the casino and went to a bar called Carlos 'n' Charlies in the early hours of May 30, 2005.

 

At about 1:30 a.m., court papers say, an intoxicated Holloway left with van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers. Several of Holloway's friends saw her in the car with the youths and asked her to get out, court papers say, but she did not.

 

"The next hours of Natalee's young life were marked by torment, terror and debasement," court papers say, describing an imagined sexual assault. "Natalee has not been seen or heard from since entering Deepak's car with Joran."

 

Balber would not say where he believes the van der Sloots are staying in New York. He said he believed that as of Thursday, when they were served, they had not retained a lawyer.

 

Balber explained that if a defendant is served with a summons for a lawsuit in the state and neither party lives in the county where the summons is served, then the plaintiff gets to decide the county in which the lawsuit is filed.

[kjun]

FLJOHN, it is amazing that you can draw the conclusion that you have from Lucky's post. Not that you cannot read between the lines in the post but that you can remain such a blind supporter of the Bush administration that you would utter such a comment. What more does this administration have to do to this country before you wake up.

 

Your comments about the Governor of Louisiana and Mayor of New Orleans help to explain what you are: A blind man living in a fog. Do you listen to the news? Any idea what FEMA and Homeland Security have been guilty of in the New Orlenas disaster?

 

the Cajun

[Guest zipperzone]

Will you guys please get your posts straight.

 

The original post was about Nancy Holloway, quickly hijacked into a discussion of Katrina incompetance. Then after months of silence, a post was made reverting back to the original topic - Holloway. Then another post was made re Katrina.

 

This is the most blatent example of post hijacking I've seen on this board. If you have no intention of sticking to the original topic, why bother posting at all?

 

Andwith regards to the lawsuit - is there any chance the Holloways will ever get van der Sloot into a courtroom? And if so, how can they possibly hope to win any damages? I had respect and sympathy for the Holloways when this was all going on, but I think they are off the rails on this one.

 

It will however, give Nancy Grace an excuse to get all indignent and teary eyed yet again.

[+ Lucky]

Fox News may not have been able to convict this cutie, but he has now apparently convicted himself. Van Der Sloot was tricked into making a confession that he disposed of Holloway's body after she died during sex (apparently from a cocaine-initiated heart attack).

 

Now the boy tells Dutch television that he did say that...but he was lying. Having watched his original interviews on TV where he denied everything in such a convincing fashion, I'd have to say the kid is a damn good liar!

 

Now back to Katrina!

[Guest zipperzone]

>Now the boy tells Dutch television that he did say that...but

>he was lying. Having watched his original interviews on TV

>where he denied everything in such a convincing fashion, I'd

>have to say the kid is a damn good liar!

 

A damn good liar he may well be - but evidently not as smart as I had originally given him credit for.

 

Bottom line - I'd do him.

[ariadne1880]

What former Sen. Bob Kerrey said about Bill Clinton may apply to "Urine" van der Slop ... "he's an unusually good liar."

 

Mark

[twinkboylover28]

People stop becoming "cute" once they kill someone. Would you still refer to Joran as "cute" if he killed YOUR daughter or family member?

 

It's like the whole Scott Petterson thing. Even though Petterson killed 2 people, ladies will still mail him love letters. Pathetic.

 

And yeah, I know Aruba man hasn't been convicted...yet.

[+ Lucky]

Despite the greatest effort ever mounted by an American television network to convict a foreigner in a foreign country, Fox News has been unable to garner the evidence necessary to hold Joran Van der Sloot in jail. The youth was released in Aruba today while Fox was busy looking the other way in Louisiana.

 

Greta Van Susteren, who pronounced Joran's name "urine" in her numerous endless segments on the case, was in Houston when the release came. Maybe now she will move on to the Montreal murders.

 

http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven/images/jorangek.jpg

[+ Lucky]

RE: Van Der Sloot Able To Convict Self

 

Thanks Anton. He sounds like a real stand-up guy.

[OneFinger]

RE: Fox Unable To Convict Aruba Teen - Peter's program

 

Just saw where the tape is going to be shown in the US on 20/20 on Monday night.

 

Here's a link to an article about the tape and the 20/20 airing.

 

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/Story?id=4222253&page=1

 

While the kid is very cute, his attitude and smugness make him totally ugly in my eyes. Hope they're able to convict him and he spends a long time in prison as someone's wife.

[Guest zipperzone]

RE: Fox Unable To Convict Aruba Teen - Peter's program

 

The most chilling part of the tapes, for me, was when he said that he hadn't missed a bit of sleep when he went home that night/morning. He didn't know for sure if the girl had been dead or in a coma, yet he lost no sleep thinking about it? Wow - doesn't get any colder than that!

 

What a stupid stupid jerk he has turned out to be. If he had just kept his mouth shut he would have been OK as the investigation had been officially dropped.

 

I also heard a Dutch Lawyer say that if he is convicted the most they can get him for is obstruction of justice and the penalty for that in Aruba is 2 years or less. How about making him pay for the untold millions all the search efforts must have cost.

[+ glutes]

Joran resurfaces

 

http://www.reuters.com/resources/r/?m=02&d=20100603&t=2&i=119168824&w=460&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&r=2010-06-03T190550Z_01_BTRE6521H1Y00_RTROPTP_0_PERU-MURDER-CHILE

 

Joran Van der Sloot was stopped by police in central Chile while he was traveling south from the border with Peru.

 

"He was found in a rented vehicle on highway 68 and is now being taken to police headquarters," said Douglas Rodriguez, head of investigation police in the northern city of Arica.

 

Rodriguez said the Chilean government now has to decide if it will send Van der Sloot back to Peru, where he is wanted in the murder of 21-year-old Stephany Flores in a Lima hotel room. He crossed into neighboring Chile on Monday.

 

Chile set up checkpoints along more than 250 miles of rugged border area. Police also checked hotels, guest-houses, restaurants and casinos.

 

Van der Sloot was questioned after Natalee Holloway disappeared during a high school graduation trip in the Dutch Caribbean island five years ago, a case that attracted heavy media attention in the United States. He was not charged due to insufficient evidence.

 

Cesar Guardia, head of the Peruvian police crimes unit, said Van der Sloot and the victim were seen at a casino in Lima over the weekend and is a prime suspect in her death. (Reuters: Additional reporting by Marco Aquino, Teresa Cespedes and Eduardo Garcia; Writing by Alonso Soto; Editing by Doina Chiacu)

[+ ArVaGuy]

He's going to be awfully popular in a Peruvian prison. Assuming he survives long enough for a trial.

 

http://www.reuters.com/resources/r/?m=02&d=20100603&t=2&i=119168824&w=460&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&r=2010-06-03T190550Z_01_BTRE6521H1Y00_RTROPTP_0_PERU-MURDER-CHILE

 

Joran Van der Sloot was stopped by police in central Chile while he was traveling south from the border with Peru.

 

"He was found in a rented vehicle on highway 68 and is now being taken to police headquarters," said Douglas Rodriguez, head of investigation police in the northern city of Arica.

 

Rodriguez said the Chilean government now has to decide if it will send Van der Sloot back to Peru, where he is wanted in the murder of 21-year-old Stephany Flores in a Lima hotel room. He crossed into neighboring Chile on Monday.

 

Chile set up checkpoints along more than 250 miles of rugged border area. Police also checked hotels, guest-houses, restaurants and casinos.

 

Van der Sloot was questioned after Natalee Holloway disappeared during a high school graduation trip in the Dutch Caribbean island five years ago, a case that attracted heavy media attention in the United States. He was not charged due to insufficient evidence.

 

Cesar Guardia, head of the Peruvian police crimes unit, said Van der Sloot and the victim were seen at a casino in Lima over the weekend and is a prime suspect in her death. (Reuters: Additional reporting by Marco Aquino, Teresa Cespedes and Eduardo Garcia; Writing by Alonso Soto; Editing by Doina Chiacu)