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I know that my popularity here has been mixed since founding EscortSpeak. During that experience I had an opportunity to really review the process and my personal goals in this arena.

 

Several who I'm close with from this MC, I believe, understand what I was attempting to do and why I was evicted or left depending on your personal view. For those who do not know me I assure you it wasn't as sinster as it appeared.

 

I believe EBG/EBP has also come to the realization that EscortSpeak is more trouble than it's worth to maintain. Most likely he and another poster here (I cannot release his name at this point) are working on the larger plan of that site. But the EscortSpeak message center is done in my opinion. Even the regular posters now see it as nothing more than a shell and have returned here to spread their agenda.

 

I don't regret starting the site nor do I regret being evicted/leaving. It was an education that one can only experience from the inside.

 

RT

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With all due respect, I don't think that the problem with your popularity came from the founding of escortspeak. It came from the way that you and others ripped into regular members and moderators of this board on that other forum.

 

Prior to your split, I had always viewed you (perhaps incorrectly so) as one of the people who were the glue for this site. Thus, I was quite surprised to see the negative enthusiasm and venom with which you attacked others over there. Maybe I was just naive.

 

There are those who participate in ES, who are, simply, social misfits. I don't view you as one of those.

 

I'm not sure if your post is an attempt to say "I quit and I'm not sorry for anything that I did" or, "I made a mistake in my treatment of members of the MC that I regret". If its the latter, I would encourage you to use the PM feature to fix the damage that you have done tio your own reputation with individual members of this site.

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4A, you shouldn't feel as though you have to apologize to any of the Church Ladies. You created EscortSpeak in response to the actions of an out of control moderator who was drunk on his little bit of power and afforded those of us who had been abused by that same moderator an opportunity to continue to be heard. You did a great thing and I know I appreciate it.

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CONWAY TODAY: "There are those who participate in ES, who are, simply, social misfits."

 

CONWAY 2 DAYS AGO: "Therefore, this will be the last post in which I ever mention those freaks."

 

BON, in prescient response to Conway's vow: "This statment will go down as the BIGGEST falsehood of 2005. Keep this book marked. Conway is incapable of ignoring us. We are like a drug to him and he craves us more than Whitney craves cocaine."

 

HEY BoN - He couldn't even adhere to his abstinence vow for 2 days - not even 2 days. Contemplate for a moment what this failure on his part says about the level of his obsession and the amount of importance we play in his "life".

 

He came and publicly swore that he would cease posting on the only topic he has demonstrated any interest in - us. He vowed never to speak about us again!

 

And yet a mere 48 hours later - knowing the amount of humiliation this would subject him to - he nonetheless couldn't resist. He had to hit the REPLY button in order to talk about us again, to call us names, to wallow in our being.

 

Aside from Conway's tragic obsession, isn't it rather obvious that there is this compelling, irresistible need to keep saying over and over how ES is dead? They think if they say it enough times, it will become true - and they hope so much that it is true, while not being able to do anything about it, that declaring it dead over and over is their only hope.

 

As for FA - really, could anything be more transparent than this little announcement? Someone starts a website, has a public nervous breakdown on it, gets kicked out of his own website and all his powers taken away, tries unsuccessfully to destroy it, and when all else fails, comes and declares it dead. That's going to be persuasive to anyone?

 

Shorter Four Aces: "I started Escort Speak - they kicked me out - they took away all my powers - it caused me to have a nervous breakdown in public - I tried and failed to destroy the site - so now I think it's worthless."

 

I knew when ES began that it would drive lots and lots of people here crazy knowing that there was a place for people to say what they want in an uncensored way, but never in my wildest dreams did I think that the existence of such a place would drive so many people this insane.

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>With all due respect, I don't think that the problem with

>your popularity came from the founding of escortspeak. It

>came from the way that you and others ripped into regular

>members and moderators of this board on that other forum.

 

Once again, Conway exhibits his complete lack of comprehension about the whys and wherefores of "the other place". Certainly, none of you Church Ladies have ever done the exact same thing.

 

>Prior to your split, I had always viewed you (perhaps

>incorrectly so) as one of the people who were the glue for

>this site. Thus, I was quite surprised to see the negative

>enthusiasm and venom with which you attacked others over

>there. Maybe I was just naive.

 

Naive isn't the word I'd use.

 

>There are those who participate in ES, who are, simply, social

>misfits. I don't view you as one of those.

 

Indeed, as leader of the social misfits here, Conway is in the perfect position to recognize others.

 

>I'm not sure if your post is an attempt to say "I quit and I'm

>not sorry for anything that I did" or, "I made a mistake in my

>treatment of members of the MC that I regret". If its the

>latter, I would encourage you to use the PM feature to fix the

>damage that you have done tio your own reputation with

>individual members of this site.

 

4A has nothing to apologize for as he has done nothing wrong. You, on the other hand, Conway, owe all of an apology for the way you have acted which is contrary to your stated opinions of what a Church Lady should be. In fact, you ower 4Aces an apology for all the times you have bashed EscortSpeak, "The Mean Girls" and all the members individually.

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>He came and publicly swore that he would cease posting on the

>only topic he has demonstrated any interest in - us. He vowed

>never to speak about us again!

 

As you know, Doug, the MC has never had a shortage of drama queens who make big, dramatic announcements that they are "never again" going to do this or that, only to reverse themselves a few days (or hours) later and do the very thing they swore "never again" to do. That kind of behavior is about as unusual here as rain in a rain forest. Stereotypes can't exist without having some basis in reality, and the stereotype of the gay man as silly, self-dramatizing and prone to hysterical outbursts is based on people like that. What a pity that the rest of us have to live with the burden of that stereotype because of a few unstable creatures!

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>As you know, Doug, the MC has never had a shortage of drama

>queens who make big, dramatic announcements that they are

>"never again" going to do this or that, only to reverse

>themselves a few days (or hours) later and do the very thing

>they swore "never again" to do. That kind of behavior is

>about as unusual here as rain in a rain forest. Stereotypes

>can't exist without having some basis in reality, and the

>stereotype of the gay man as silly, self-dramatizing and prone

>to hysterical outbursts is based on people like that. What a

>pity that the rest of us have to live with the burden of that

>stereotype because of a few unstable creatures!

 

Doug and Woody,

 

So predictable. Hillary says it takes a village. I'll I need is a nice solid baseball bat.

 

Later.

 

PS. Woody, isn't this the one that had a meltdown re: us in the deli. He's a w***e,isn't he?

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Children Say The Dardnest Things

 

>You did a great thing and I know I appreciate it.

 

Although people often think of tantrums as a probelm of the "terrible twos" (a really bad term, by the way, for a wonderful, if trying, stage of life), many posters begin to have tantrums as early as possible.

 

The best remedy for tantrums in a posters is often simply to ignore them. If necessary, move your posters to a soft carpet, where he can't hurt himself, then turn your attention to something else. A very persistent posters may tantrum for several minutes. If you are consistent, your posters should get the idea fairly quickly and the tantrums will be brief.

 

Posters will still have tantrums when frustrated, and sometimes when they are just overtired, hungry, or feeling miserable for no particular reason (which happens!) But if posters are taught that they don't get their way by having tantrums, they soon learn more positive ways of requesting what they want.

 

— by Robert Needlman, M.D., F.A.A.P.

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>HEY BoN - He couldn't even adhere to his abstinence vow for 2

>days - not even 2 days. Contemplate for a moment what this

>failure on his part says about the level of his obsession and

>the amount of importance we play in his "life".

 

Would you have expected anything less, Doug? I suspect that his next most will be a bile filled diatribe about what assholes we are and how he control us..yada yada yada

 

And then he'll vow never to return to the Message Center.

 

And then he'll be back.

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jeez, how did ALL you guys get along before the anonymity of the internet?...I'm a total outsider to all this drama, but this entire episode has been the funniest thing I've seen in a while...don't take it all so seriously...no profound revelations from me, but, man, go develop some other hobbies, for the love of god...

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>jeez, how did ALL you guys get along before the anonymity of

>the internet?...I'm a total outsider to all this drama, but

>this entire episode has been the funniest thing I've seen in a

>while...don't take it all so seriously...no profound

>revelations from me, but, man, go develop some other hobbies,

>for the love of god...

 

We love buying cock and talking about it, asshole. We love buying cock and talking about it, asshole. What's it to you, dickwipe. What's it to you, dickwipe. Crawl back in your hole, cocksucker. Crawl back in your hole, cocksucker.

 

Later. Later.

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>I don't regret starting the site nor do I regret being

>evicted/leaving. It was an education that one can only

>experience from the inside.

>

>RT

 

I don't get it. YOu started the site and then you were kicked out of it? How did that happen? Please forgive me but I don't know too much about the escortspeak site.

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RE: Children Say The Dardnest Things

 

>Posters will still have tantrums when frustrated, and

>sometimes when they are just overtired, hungry, or feeling

>miserable for no particular reason (which happens!) But if

>posters are taught that they don't get their way by

>having tantrums, they soon learn more positive ways of

>requesting what they want.[/i]

>

>— by Robert Needlman, M.D., F.A.A.P.

 

Interesting advice, Franco. Does Dr. Needlman recommend doing all of this with a condom or bareback? How about you?

 

And do you happen to know the results of the investigation which Deej - before he tragically disappeared - announcedthat he was undertaking into that whole controversy surrounding that barebacking profile which appeared quite clearly to be yours on one of the recreational sex sites? I was eager to learn of the results - like so many of us were - and then, POOF!, nobody heard from deej again.

 

Any word?

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