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I have always enjoyed and still enjoy visiting the M4M site and reading the different messages on the board. However, after Hooboy passed away the site has in my opinion deteriorated. There are reasons for this:

Before, we were always sure that the escort reviews were up at 6 AM Eastern time and that there were new reviews EVERY day. Now the reviews are posted at different times and some days there are none at all. Is that because there are no new reviews available, or are there other reasons for this ?

To remove moderators like TRI was a big mistake. I don't think one should have given in to the very few persons who complained. The section about what is going on South of the US. was always very busy . It was fun to read and very informative. Now there is hardly any activity in this forum. The people who used to post are posting on another site and for us seeking information we consequently turn to the site where they are. This is really too bad.

I hope the people who administrate the M4M site will do something that this site can continue to be an informative and at the same time fun place for us who hire escorts wherever we are in the world.

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I think we were spoiled by Hooboy's management of the site...there's no reason why we should always be assured of "new reviews every day by 6am Eastern"...that was ultra-generous of Hooboy and not necessary for him to guarantee...sorry, I know nothing of the "south of the border" section...and don't know about the drama with "TRI"...internet forums are notoriously controversial, usually, and melodrama is not avoidable, usually...the big new rules section that appeared here on the board after the brief shutdown a couple months ago appears to be a result of that same drama/frustration that everybody gets in a tizzy about...can't satisfy everybody...jeez, you guys, the site is free with minimally-invasive ads...take it easy, don't be a drama queen, post intelligently...maybe I'm too much of a pollyanna

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I agree with most of Crazy's thoughts. Hooboy ran this site like a business, ot a casual hobby. New posts were up by the correct and there were no just skipped days for no apparent reason.

 

I do disagree about removing TRI as a moderator. His attitudes about the American people being "stupid" "uniformed" "being blind and following the blind" , etc.... are not appropriate for a moderator.

There are MANY examples in his posts of the above and his elitist attitude in his postings on the political board. Anyone who wishes can review them.

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With that said, I have no problem entering into a period of just ignoring the members of the psychological disorders forum who come here exclusively to try to attract people to that intellectual and content deficient wasteland.

 

I ducked into their forum yesterday. There are a grand total of three posts in the last 48 hours there proving without a doubt, that none of them is interesting enough, compelling enough or entertaining enough to maintain a board like this one after the period of interest in their freakishness and ghoulishness has worn thin on the general public.

 

Therefore, this will be the last post in which I ever mention those freaks.

 

FWIW, I think Trilingual is a real asset to any board that he posts on.

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>I ducked into their forum yesterday. There are a grand total

>of three posts in the last 48 hours there proving without a

>doubt, that none of them is interesting enough, compelling

>enough or entertaining enough to maintain a board like this

>one after the period of interest in their freakishness and

>ghoulishness has worn thin on the general public.

 

Astounding. Yet another textbook example of hysterical hypocrisy.

"I hate people who bash other people and call others names, especially thos pyschologically unbalanced freaks over at the other site"

 

What you're really seeing though is the self hatred and loathing that Conway has for himself. It's frightening.

 

The truth of the matter is that without "us", this site would be more boring than Cal Thomas' house on a Friday night. Every single post of interest, the highest numbered posts, the posts with the flame icons all have one things in common: the direction and participation of "The Mean Girls Club" If you take those posts away, you are left with the boringly pedantic trivia of OneFinger, the mindless meanderings of Conway or Jackhammer, the almost put not quite clever posts of Curmudgeon, or the "incomprehensible" posts of "JT" Brooklyn. There are a few exceptions of course, such as the fleetingly brilliant posts of FFF, but he is the exception that proves the rule.

 

>Therefore, this will be the last post in which I ever mention

>those freaks.

 

This statment will go down as the BIGGEST falsehood of 2005. Keep this book marked. Conway is incapable of ignoring us. We are like a drug to him and he craves us more than Whitney craves cocaine.

 

>FWIW, I think Trilingual is a real asset to any board that he

>posts on.

 

Dear old Granny Hypocrite. He came to EscortSpeak after his unjust banishment at the hands of Pol Pot, aka deej. He then proceeded to trash and smash Hooboy's memory and everything and everyone else related to this site. Until of course someone promised to set him up on his OWN site (http://www.gaytravelbrazil.com), then he came back here crawling on his knees, much like a Fox "News" employee to George W Bush.

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I truly miss the input of Mark Anthony and his lastest twink finds and his and Tampa Yankee's Montreal updates. They are definitely the Montreal experts. Also I miss Totally Oz's Thailand updates. His info really added to my 2 trips to Thailand earlier this year. Their decision to stop posting have been a real loss for this site. As for Tri, I've never made it to Rio but must admit that he and others peaked my interest in the South of the USA section. The lack of participation there is also a real loss. Add to all that the closing of the G in NYC and lack of Dancer info and yes things have made a few steps backward. The weekly G update, as I understand it, use to get more hits than anything here except the reviews.

 

At the same time, even though Daddy seems to take weekends off for reviews, which I think is understandable, they are up almost daily with few breaks and without the mishaps that always seemed to befall Hooboy and his laptops.

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I'm actually kinda glad that Brazil travel now has a site all its own. (http://www.gaytravelbrazil.com) It can focus, generically, on all things travel-related about Brazil rather than on which sauna has the hottest cariocas this week.

 

Believe it or not, there are more reasons to go to Brazil than getting laid! That forum was overgrowing the focus of an escort site, with information about getting visas and building houses and such.

 

It is better off being its own entity.

 

 

The problem with making something foolproof is the universe keeps making better fools.

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How quickly people forget or time is simply the creator of illusion or selective memory must be bliss.

 

HB met his self imposed 6am et deadline about 4 or 5 days of the 7 he put up reviews. He countless excuses errr reasons became a staple of this site. Many times a day or two would go by wothout explanation then a quick note as tocomputer problems or no highspeed Internet connection where he was at was all we were allowed to know.

 

Daddy, who has many faults in running this site, has at least been consistent with reviews. He takes weekends off (is your life so boring that you have to read new reviews every day of the week mr thread author?) but aside from his off days the reviews are up.

 

I've already documented herewithin that mac and Oz no longer post here due to a difference with managements view of HB's wishes for this site had he passed on.

 

TY and BG are the worst excuse for posters you can find. That fled THEIR gentleman's club quicker than OJ tried to escape capture in the infamous white Bronco "chase." After weeks of trying to bore us posters to death with their right wing view of this site they vanish. But that is a good thing.

 

The site has a different feel than when HB ran it. But it felt different when I was 16 sticking my cock into a friend's tight asshole than it does now. You either adjust to it or move on to other interests.

 

---/

You may change time but time won't change me.

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All of you worry worts, don't fret! With gentlemenly, incisive, hilarious, creative discourse about other members, such as this . . . :

 

> the members of the psychological disorders forum

 

>their freakishness and ghoulishness

 

>those freaks

 

I'm sure this forum will be back to bountiful vibrancy and compelling discussion in no time at all! Who could possibly resist such incisive, witty and elevated repartee?

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>TY and BG are the worst excuse for posters you can find. That

>fled THEIR gentleman's club quicker than OJ tried to escape

>capture in the infamous white Bronco "chase." After weeks of

>trying to bore us posters to death with their right wing view

>of this site they vanish. But that is a good thing.

 

Not to worry. There are plenty of TY, Jr.'s and BG, Jr.'s running around trying to fill those pompous, preachy shoes - people who know what's best for this forum; who know which posters should stay and which ones should go; who hold themselves out as Beacons of Civility and Respectful, Adult Discourse while spitting out every childhood epithet at any posters they dislike.

 

Just check out this thread if you don't believe me. TY and BG will always be the Big Daddies of Enforced Contrived Niceness, but there is no shortage of those who have learned well at their bloated, dictatorial feet.

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It amazes me that Conway and a few others have such a dislike for the "mean girls" and the other msg board but they keep coming over again and again and again lurking and then call the posters over there names and and yet they say oh no us "church ladies" are oh nice and then they turn around and blast the users of the other site. It is a shame that the "church ladies" can't practice what they preach durring their quilting bee. I wish that the church ladies would just disapear or things would go back to the way they were a year or so ago.

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On the reviews Daddy is doing a decent job, most days posting the reviews by 6 AM. The big different is that HooBoy made such a big deal about the effort and turmoil he had to overcome to post reviews on time. I will never forget Thanksgiving, 2000 when I was a newbie here. HooBoy must have changed hotels in London five or six times that week before he found a hotel with a proper computer connection. The drama in HooBoy's life often spilled over on to this site, so he seemed more commited. We all know that the drama is still continuing some months after HooBoy's death.

 

On Boston Guy and some of the others who left the site, I have several

comments. I deeply resented BG's lectures about how we should conduct

ourselves, especially since he was sometimes involved in some of the most controversial threads on the message center (and not in a positive way). Having said that, BG, Tri and some of the others who left did make very positive contributions to this site over the years.

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>The site has a different feel than when HB ran it. But it felt

>different when I was 16 sticking my cock into a friend's tight

>asshole than it does now.

 

What a hot analogy. }(

 

It may be true that the site has a different feel but change is good. When Shelley Long left Cheers, people thought that would be the end but it was just as funny and just as successful with Kirstie Alley.

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I've been disappointed, but my disappointment has NOTHING to do with who's managing the site. I applaud Daddy for taking the weekends off; a guy needs a rest each week from whatever endeavor he is involved.

 

My dissatisfaction comes from a dearth in responses at a few of our forums: 'Escorts South...', 'Africa, Asia, and Australia,' 'Massage' and so on. If folks would write, others could respond to continue the dialogue...

 

Ever since the board was down for almost three+ weeks, there has been a decline in those who wrote prior to the shutting down. But I remain optimistic that the site will rebound, and those guys--fellow cyberbuddies--will resume where they left off in May/June 2005.

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Now this is funny! :7

 

Unlike those at that "other board" coming here to see what has been posted by the next "victim" they wish to open a thread about over "there" and trash, huh? :7

 

Facts don't matter, as anything posted by the victim du jour is the ABSOULTE, UNDENIABLE FACTS, but when they post something and get called on in, they come up with ridiculously inane protestations that they were "just kidding" and "don't believe what I said". Yeah, true double standards.

 

They aren't content with that, as they don't have a big enough audience "over there", so they come here and continue to post trash and personal attacks, seeing just how far they can push the envelope before being banned again. And when they are banned "yet again", it is because someone "here" is "special" or "protected" or "favored", when the REAL reason for their banishment is their very own flagrant violations of the rules of this site.

 

This site could take a lesson from the game of baseball, 3 strikes and you are just plain old OUT!

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> But I remain optimistic that the site will rebound, and

>those guys--fellow cyberbuddies--will resume where they left

>off in May/June 2005.

>

 

You're dreaming. As you well know Tri & Drey and crew have setup shop elsewhere. Why would they want to continue to post here while trying to get people to click on their affiliate links over at their new home?

 

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Once in a while you must know it's time to come back to earth for a while.

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>Now this is funny! :7

>

>Unlike those at that "other board" coming here to see what has

>been posted by the next "victim" they wish to open a thread

>about over "there" and trash, huh? :7

 

 

Awww, poor little Buzzy got his feelings hurt when his own words were used against him.

 

 

>Facts don't matter, as anything posted by the victim du jour

>is the ABSOULTE, UNDENIABLE FACTS, but when they post

>something and get called on in, they come up with ridiculously

>inane protestations that they were "just kidding" and "don't

>believe what I said". Yeah, true double standards.

 

 

Please provide a link to a post where any of the posters on the other site ever said anything remotely like this.

 

 

>They aren't content with that, as they don't have a big enough

>audience "over there", so they come here and continue to post

>trash and personal attacks, seeing just how far they can push

>the envelope before being banned again. And when they are

>banned "yet again", it is because someone "here" is "special"

>or "protected" or "favored", when the REAL reason for their

>banishment is their very own flagrant violations of the rules

>of this site.

 

You really shouldn't try to post when you're drunk Buzzy, your recall is hazy, commenting on something that someone said about their self is not a personal attack.

 

If anyone would like to see an example of a personal attack, just go over to escortspeaks and read Buzzy's last three post.

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>Why should they go to all that effort, as your own posts on

>this site, so BRILLIANTLY make my point????????? :p

 

It's really no effort for anyone Buzzy, no matter what the hypocrites say about ignoring the "Mean Girls", they're addicted to the site.

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>It's really no effort for anyone Buzzy, no matter what the

>hypocrites say about ignoring the "Mean Girls", they're

>addicted to the site.

 

Just who the fuck is Buzzy? Are you referring to me? I thought I was VaHawk, and unless you have proof otherwise, then once again, you are just pissing in the wind.

 

LMFAO! Seems like you and your ilk, are the ones addicted to this SITE, and not the other way around!!!!!!!! :7

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