Escorts Anonymous?

[rocky]

Not sure how to spell, but seriously, is

there a place to go to discuss your problem

with spending too much time and money on

escorts and if I have a problem. I spend

almost $600 a week and climbing, not so much

for sexual activities but the fun of it all

or not wanting to say no to some of my regulars,

I really could use some constructive thoughts

here, it's one thing to say, I can afford it,

but another to have it consume your life...thoughts?

[Guest ReturnOfS]

You could probably start by looking for resources for people who are addicted to sex.

 

It might be a good idea to check out clinics that target the gay community. In the DC area, the Whitman Walker clinic would be a good start. Even if you're not in DC, I would bet that the Whitman Walker Center could point you in the right direction if you call them.

 

These are just my thoughts.

[VaHawk]

Why would you recommend the Whitman Walker Clinic???? They have recently closed their facilites outside of DC due to lack of funds. Such funds having been embezzeled by the administrators. Ask DC councilman Jim Graham, who, some say should be incarcerated.

 

Whitman Walker Clinic SUCKS THE BIG ONE, and that is based Only on my own experiences.

[Juan Vancouver]

"Sexworkers-users anonymous"

 

Hey Rocky,

 

First of all, congratulations both for posting this, and for having enough self-awareness to realize that this might be something that is not totally healthy for you now.

I do not believe that in all cases spending money in things that you like is an issue. It is however unhealthy when you begin to notice that it affects your ability to live your life and stay in control of things. Here for example, you mention that you go ahead with sessions "because you don't want to say no to regulars", and you also mention that even if it is fun it can "consume your life".

 

The good news is that the first step for overcoming any addiction is realizing that you are suffering from it. And you seem to be there.

 

I am not sure, but I can imagine that a "Sexworkers-users anonymous" might be hard to find. What I can recommend for sure is to find a well-reputed, gay-friendly therapist in your area, and ask for his/her professional help. Once you are in therapy, perhaps you will be advised to follow a 12 steps program. (But maybe not)

 

As always when choosing a therapist, make sure that you feel comfortable with him/her. Make sure that you don't feel judged on a moral or ethical base, but make sure that he/she understands your need to deal with the issues that are bugging you. Ask for his/her experience in situations like yours, and (Hate to repeat things when I write, but this is the phrase that I need) -Make sure- that you trust her/him and will feel comfortable speaking about your most private issues.

 

Commit to an amount of sessions, commit to seriously working on this, and I am confident when I say that you will be soon feeling much better, in control of your life.

 

Fortunately the financial side of therapy doesn't seem to be an issue for you, so just try to forget that prejudice that only "disturbed" people need therapy... enjoy the process, have fun, be generous with yourself and dont beat yourself up too harshly... (That's what Juan has a dungeon for }( )

 

Receive a tight hug, and my sincere wishes that soon you will be fully comfortable with the amount of time/money/energy that you spend (or not) in professional companionship.

[BewareofNick]

>Why would you recommend the Whitman Walker Clinic???? They

>have recently closed their facilites outside of DC due to lack

>of funds. Such funds having been embezzeled by the

>administrators. Ask DC councilman Jim Graham, who, some say

>should be incarcerated.

>

>Whitman Walker Clinic SUCKS THE BIG ONE, and that is based

>Only on my own experiences.

 

Good Lord, Buzzard, how many unhealthy addictions do you have??

[Guest mbarz]

>Good Lord, Buzzard, how many unhealthy addictions do you

>have??

 

It's the AIDS clinic BON and it "sucks", from his own "experience"...interesting.

[BewareofNick]

What? Wasn't someone just banned for suggesting something along those lines about the old Buzzard? And here he is admitting he has used teh facilities?

[Barry]

No...it's a GLBT Health Center which includes an HIV/AIDS clinic as part of it's services.

 

Barry

[Curmudgeon]

And it has some homophobic managers who descriminate against GLBT employees.

 

Sad, but true. :-(

 

 

The problem with making something foolproof is the universe keeps making better fools.

[bigguyinpasadena]

RE: "Sexworkers-users anonymous"

 

Juan thanks for the response.

I find it very telling that the only one posting to this thread with helpful advice is one of the wonderful "working boy"posters!

Shame on the others!

Sex addiction is often a cover for something else going on inside your head.While a 12 step SLAA(aex and love addict annonymous)program might be helpful,I feel for "recovery"to work it must be coupled with professional help.

You might look in the local gay rag for some licensed therapist in your area.I tend to lean towards true psychiatric help rather than just therapist-but you should try and seek out help that will work for you.

SLAA has a lot of backsliding involved-and can sometimes be more of a hurt than a help.But it is better than nothing.

[Guest Merlin]

RE: "Sexworkers-users anonymous"

 

I suggest you try a sex-addiction anonymous group first. It may work and it will be a lot cheaper than a therapist. I believe that many, if not most, sex addicts are people who spend too much on escorts. You might try getting an unlisted number and an answering machine, so your regulars cannot call you directly. As you know most escorts are set up so that clients cannot call directly. The client gets an answering machine or a pager and the escort calls back if he choses, or not. This eliminates the danger of the client becoming a stalker or obsessed with the escort or something of the sort.Using the same system in reverse would place you in control simply by denying easy access to the hustlers. And, yes, an escort who pressures the client to hire him is a hustler of the worst kind.

[JT Brooklyn]

RE: "Sexworkers-users anonymous"

 

Juan-Merlin-biguy.."Thank You" for adding to this Important Discussion, about a Topic.. I believe too many Guys donot like to Talk about! "Sexual Addiction". There are Groups, who are very Helpful in this area. In a City like NYC.. If one group for Whatever Reason is not very Helpful, You can move on to others. As far as "Regs" who check with you about Hooking Up, that's a whole different discussion, with a Whole Different Name! :+

[Guest mbarz]

>No...it's a GLBT Health Center which includes an HIV/AIDS

>clinic as part of it's services.

>

>Barry

 

True, but it is primarily a HIV/AIDS clinic.

[BewareofNick]

We "are" the "Glorious" Church "ladies"!

 

Oh yes, let's pat ourselves on the backs and ride Juan's coattails to the glory of being a good Church Lady. Look at us..aren't we GLORIOUS??

 

First off, Juan is and always has been a class act. He is informational, charming, intelligent, HOT and above all honest. He puts the lie to the notion that escorts can't come here without being viciously attacked. The rest of you are self aggrandizing sycophants.

 

Here's some links for ya Rocky:

 

http://www.saa-recovery.org/

 

http://gaylife.about.com/od/sexaddiction/a/sexaddiction.htm

 

http://www.sexhelp.com/sa_q_and_a.cfm

[rocky]

RE: "Sexworkers-users anonymous"

 

Wow, thanks..I didn't want to start a hissy

fit that I thought when I saw the first responses,

I'm serious here. I think I have a problem, I

know that this is where many excorts go and I

look forward to seeing them, but I do have to

ask, is this normal and in any event I'm hoping

for some constructive advice..

[jackhammer91406]

Ongoing

 

Rocky,

First, you DIDN'T start a hissy fit. You asked a legitimate question, got some good leads and advice, and became victim to an ONGOING hissy fit. Some people insist on shouting just to prove they are able to SPEAK FREE wherever they want.

 

It seldom matters if what they have to say has ANY relevance to the topic at hand.

[Juan Vancouver]

RE: We "are" the "Glorious" Church "ladies"!

 

BON,

I always discourage people to ride on my coattails... I instead always recommend taking a ride on my thick, uncut, engorged, throbbing cock.}( :9 :9

 

Now, seriously, thanks for the compliments, guys. I simply enjoy a lot this way of free exchange of information and personal opinions. It can be really fun and helpfull.

[Guest ReturnOfS]

RE: "Sexworkers-users anonymous"

 

Shame on me?

 

What did I do?

[BewareofNick]

RE: Ongoing

 

Says the man who continues on with a "hissy" fit rather than making a contribution to the question. I didn't notice YOU providing rocky any resources. May Boston Guy have Mercy on you.

[Doug69]

RE: Ongoing

 

>Says the man who continues on with a "hissy" fit rather than

>making a contribution to the question. I didn't notice YOU

>providing rocky any resources.

 

What a coincidence. I also find it so fucking hilarious when they do this.

 

I love all these people here who jump into a thread to yell at the posters they dislike about the evils of thread hijacking and not sticking to the original point. Needless to say, every time they do it, they end up engaging in exactly the behavior they claim to find so distateful - writing in threads without directly addressing the exact point which the thread creator raised.

 

See, BoN - when YOU write in Rocky's thread about anything other than the exact information Rocky wanted, that's bad, horrible, evil and wrong. But when Jackhammer (or Curmudgeon or Conway or whothefuckever is the Preacher of the Week here) jumps into this thread in order to say how bad you are and, in the process, totally ignores poor Rocky's point, why - that is totally different altogether.

 

I trust you understand the different standards now that get applied, depending on the person.

 

>May Boston Guy have Mercy on

>you.

 

Both He and his Prodigal Son, Tampa Yankee. May their Goodness and Warmth save us all.

[jackhammer91406]

For the love of God, stop the whining

 

>I trust you understand the different standards now that get

>applied, depending on the person.

 

 

There are standards here? Then how the hell did you get in?

 

You guys are like a broken record. The hypocrites are coming, the hypocrites are coming. Oh, God, the hypocrites are here. We have found them. Let us burn them. Man, you guys need a new act. Huey, Dewey and Louie, all dressed up and no place to go. Oh wait, you guys have a place, that's right. So why all the interest in a place filled with hypocrites. Are you guys on some kind of sociological grant study?

 

Doug, you should go back to escorting, and let Nick go back to warning the world of one bad escort (talk about a one trick pony) and Woodlawn, well, does anyone know if he knows anything else to do?

[Doug69]

RE: For the love of God, stop the whining

 

>You guys are like a broken record. The hypocrites are coming,

>the hypocrites are coming. Oh, God, the hypocrites are here.

>We have found them. Let us burn them. Man, you guys need a

>new act. Huey, Dewey and Louie, all dressed up and no place

>to go. Oh wait, you guys have a place, that's right. So why

>all the interest in a place filled with hypocrites. Are you

>guys on some kind of sociological grant study?

 

I can't believe how you have hijacked poor Rocky's thread. He came here seeking information about getting help with is problem, and you have now repeatedly posted in his thread just to vent personal dislikes that have absolutely nothing to do with anything he asked. I thought you were against thread hijacking? Don't you owe Rocky an apology?

 

As for the bit about calling people "hypocrites," nobody I know among the group you are referencing ever simply calls someone that as a name-calling device and leaves it as that. It is always accompanied by them specifically pointing out exactly what standard it is that the person is simultaneously preaching and violating. That behavior, you would agree, does make someone a hypocrite, right?

 

So if you are tired of the frequency of hypocrisy around here, you really ought to blame the hypocrites, not the ones who point out the hypocrisy. That's like blaming the weatherman for rain.

 

> Doug, you should go back to escorting. . . .

 

Many people who see my picture online say this, and I appreciate the compliment. And, as Franco amply demonstrates, there is no longer any age limit to escorting. If he's any guide, I'd have at least another decade of earnings.

 

But the problem here is that you are listening to Lucky - who one day got it into that gaping, spacious head of his that I am both a former escort and an owner of a porn company for hairy guys, and hasn't been able to stop repeating it since - and anyone who listens to Lucky for anything will find themselves babbling idioicies even more inane and pitiful than usual.

[jackhammer91406]

RE: For the love of God, stop the whining

 

Thanks for proving my point

[jackhammer91406]

RE: For the love of God, stop the whining

 

.

>

>Many people who see my picture online say this, and I

>appreciate the compliment. And, as Franco amply demonstrates,

>there is no longer any age limit to escorting. If he's any

>guide, I'd have at least another decade of earnings.

>

>But the problem here is that you are listening to Lucky - who

>one day got it into that gaping, spacious head of his that I

>am both a former escort and an owner of a porn company for

>hairy guys, and hasn't been able to stop repeating it since -

>and anyone who listens to Lucky for anything will find

>themselves babbling idiocies even more inane and pitiful than

>usual.

>

Uh, Doug, the sources for these two facts are not Lucky. The fact that you used to escort comes from one of your former fellow colleagues. The fact that you are part of a porn production house involving hairy men comes from someone you asked to appear in one of your films.

Time to put your denial to rest buddy. And if as you say, your looks draw so many compliments, why not embrace your past instead of being in denial about it? What's to be ashamed of?

 

By the way, I have corrected your spelling errors for this post.

[Doug69]

RE: For the love of God, stop the whining

 

>Thanks for proving my point

 

You have now written a total of 7 posts in the 2 threads where you were preaching about the evils of Thread Hijacking - this thread and the Barebacking thread.

 

Not one of those 7 posts that you wrote had anything to do at all with the topic of the thread as created by the thread creator. Not one.

 

By contrast, the people whom you are criticizing as being thread hijackers all contributed substantive posts to these threads directly related to the topic.

 

And yet, you continue to preach against thread hijacking, even while you are the most egregious hijacker.

 

That is the point.