QAF--RIP

[Rod Hagen]

The last couple years it was as if they had college interns writing the episodes, nevertheless I'm really going to miss the show.

 

There'll be lots of talk about how there will never be another show like it (and I'm sure some of you are saying thank god) but what bothers me is that the cast will never be together again. It was a perfectly cast show, rgardless of what you thought of the characters. I'll really miss them.

 

And I'll miss seeing honest gay lives and frequent non-porn gay fucking on my TV. Now that QAF is over, and the environment is not what it was when the British Show started, we're going to have to settle for scraps again, maybe "realer" scraps but still scraps.

 

Overall it was a good show, original, often funny, sometimes too silly and/or hotbbuton oriented, but I liked it. I'll miss it/them.

 

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310.360.9890

-Hagen

[ValleyDwellerNorth]

I thought they ended the show last night quite nicely. I allowed myself to let go and realize not all shows end no nice and neatly. Though I would have loved to have seen everyone paired off the way I would have liked it I felt how everything ended was within the believability of the characters established.

 

I am not thrilled we are left with the L Word though. All that lesbian drama!

[JT Brooklyn]

VDN..Exscuse me but IMHO.."Lipstick" Lesbian Drama! The Dykes in my neighborhood, don't come close, to looking like any on the L Word! The "Prettiest" one looks like Rosanne Barr, BEFORE all the Work! LOL :+

[ErikMcAlister]

PLEASE! The show was a paltry caricature of gay life. If it was true to your life, then I feel sorry for you & recommend finding something other than drugs, clubs, and fucking with which to fill your time.

[jackhammer91406]

Will the real gay men please stand up.

 

Rod,

I also have followed the show since it began. Some seasons the plots lines were just too strange to seem real. But overall, I liked the way they addressed most real issues facing gay men (and OK, women). I thought the underlying theme of the last few episodes (that being the backlash of conservatives against gays) was well done. Being faced with staying in this country to try and effect some change, and fleeing to other countries with a safer, more accepting environment is a real challenge we as gay people face.

 

Overall, I loved the men who became objects of desire for the main characters. They came and went, but all were pleasing to look at and most played their roles well.

 

I also agree that I will miss seeing these actors perform together.

Having worked many times with Sharon, I was very impressed at how she played her role. It is a far cry for the hot blond days of Cagney and Lacey (or as we used to call it, Gag Me and Lace me .

[Rod Hagen]

It was a mirror. Not my reflection, not yours. But it reflected a significant portion of gays; not even necessairly the majority.

 

More importantly, Erik who the fuck said that the show had any responsibility to reflect you or me and our dull lives? Television is not political, television is entertainment. Television that attempts to reflect real life would be very dull indeed.

 

If you think a show about gays whose nights are parked in front of the computer/TV, like the majority of gays (people) out there, would have been more interesting, or more importantly successful, than a group of extraordinarily close friends who dance 1/2 the night and fuck the rest, who pop drugs and adopt kids and celebrate art and sell edgy advertising and own the kind of lofts we'll never have and jack off onto right-wing posters and argue and marry and divorce and take it up the ass some more and kick the shit out of homophobic straights and laugh and scream and twirl to the thumpa thumpa all in between fucking each other up the ass again, then you don't have the faintest idea what, other than you and I, sells out there. THAT'S Entertainment.

 

 

 

http://www.RodHagen.com

310.360.9890

-Hagen

[Guest Mikel]

Interesting, insightful perspective...gave me something to think about

[Guest zipperzone]

>More importantly, Erik who the fuck said that the show had any

>responsibility to reflect you or me and our dull lives?

>Television is not political, television is entertainment.

>Television that attempts to reflect real life would be very

>dull indeed.

 

How typical (not to mention predictable) of Eric, who sucks dick for dollars to make the comments he did. Love these "walk on water" hos who think they are intellectually better than the rest of us. I guess they have to massage their egos any way they can.

[MTLover]

I watched the show (all five seasons) and agree completely the

writing failed the actors. The cast was so much better than the material. (I found myself cringing weekly as the characters spoke unbelievable lines and acted "out-of-character" from moment-to-moment-even within an episode.) The first season hooked me

and I kept HOPING it would regain some quality-but it didn't happen.

 

Actually, the recent episode with the 'bomb' blast had me moved to tears for the last half of the it (probably because the Hal Sparks' character

was unconscious and unable to speak.)

 

Also, it was nice to finally see the Gale Harrold character finally show

a human side. The Brian/Justin love story actually became quite touching.

 

But other than those two recent developments,the show was a disappointment that I watched for the hotties and Sharon Gless. It would be great if the cast could re-group for an occasional QAF made for cable movie.

[ValleyDwellerNorth]

>VDN..Exscuse me but IMHO.."Lipstick" Lesbian Drama! The Dykes

>in my neighborhood, don't come close, to looking like any on

>the L Word! The "Prettiest" one looks like Rosanne Barr,

>BEFORE all the Work! LOL :+

 

I do find the L Word not filled with "realistic" people in general now that you pointed it out. It is a show of super model lesbians. There isn't one lesbian in the bunch that comes close to your descriptions of the lesbians in your neighborhood. Out of all the lesbians I know there is a mixture ... from lipstick to "punch your fucking lights out".

[ValleyDwellerNorth]

>PLEASE! The show was a paltry caricature of gay life. If it

>was true to your life, then I feel sorry for you & recommend

>finding something other than drugs, clubs, and fucking with

>which to fill your time.

 

That's all it was? Drugs, clubs, and fucking? Hmmm. I know the show didn't have commercial breaks as it was on Showtime. Therefore, did you get up to get a snack when they dealt with relationships, loving and disapproving parents, death, politics, acceptance and dealing with a homophobic world in general? Of course if the clubsexfuckingdrug things in the series didn't relate to you then that's because you don't have that in your life. I don't think the show ever made it a point to say that is gay culture. I am sure there was something you could have related to in that show.

[ErikMcAlister]

"I am sure there was something you could have related to in that show."

 

You're wrong.

[Curmudgeon]

>I watched the show (all five seasons) and agree completely

>the

>writing failed the actors. The cast was so much better than

>the material.

 

Ummm ... sometimes. In the early seasons, the actors often failed the writers. But that's normal early in a series when the actors are still settling into their roles. Look at early M*A*S*H episodes (or any long-running series) and the actors weren't quite settled in.

 

I watched the first two seasons but that's when my interest waned. I saw season three on DVD and will see the others the same way. Someday.

 

It was an entertaining soap opera. It just wasn't worth a time commitment.

 

Having said that, if Randy Harrison is reading this (and he might be), contact me. We need to talk. Among other things. }(

[noviceny]

I think I saw one or two episodes, but if I can grow the balls, I will rent some episodes from Blockbusters. I dont have Showtime.

 

Also, I was too busy reading about the unrealistic gay characters on this message board to have time to see QAF. :D

[kaimakan]

I basically agree with Erik McAlister (and frankly wish some of the MC posters who lack a sense of humor or a taste for provocation would get off his back!). I found the quality of writing steadily worsening over the five seasons, the nadir being the contest between Bryan and his challenger for the hottest guy in Babylon as to who could score with the ten hotttest guys first. Although I thought the final episode was pretty good, even that was compromised by both Ted and Emmett finding love at the ski lodge, and I am relieved that the series has ended. I strongly advise fans to check out the British series, which is so much better in every way that comparisons are embarrassing.

[BobbyB]

"Having said that, if Randy Harrison is reading this (and he

might be), contact me. We need to talk. Among other things. }(

-Curmudgeon"

 

 

Me too, me too!!! :9

 

-BobbyB

[BobbyB]

"It was a mirror. Not my reflection, not yours...If you think a show about gays whose nights are parked in front of the computer/TV...then you don't have the faintest idea what, other than you and I, sells out there. THAT'S Entertainment."

 

 

Well said, my good man. Well said.

 

-BobbyB

[flguy]

Is the UK version still in production? How many years has it run, or did it survive?

[Curmudgeon]

The creators designed the UK version (and the story arcs) to run two seasons and that's exactly what it did.

[Rod Hagen]

>I basically agree with Erik McAlister

 

> I found the quality of

>writing steadily worsening over the five seasons, the nadir

 

Lots of us agree with you (scroll up). But that's not what Erik was saying. "I would NEVER watch that vile show" is the line, probably true, you'll hear from his set. He's one of those pissy gays who complain whenever they can that QAF was a shallow depiction of gays, which of course it was.

 

Erik’s anti-QAF ilk kevetch not because QAF's shallowness actually offended them, but simply out of some sanctimonious knee jerk reaction. They want everyone who’ll hear them to know how much nobler their life is than that of the club boys (btw I, Rod Hagen, don't dance, go to clubs, and I haven't done drugs since I was like 19. Nevertheless, I did enjoy QAF, without relating to it (I've never adopted kids or been gay bashed either)). Is your life Nobler? Maybe. Healthier? Yes. TV-worthy? Absolutely not.

[VaHawk]

Message deleted by me, VaHawk, as I sincerely no longer wish to indulge in mud slinging, and I apologize for letting others gall me into doing so. :7

[BewareofNick]

No one can make you do anything you want to do, short of putting a gun to your head (one could hope). Every post you;ve made, every word you've written was by your choice and yours alone. No one can "gall" you into anything.

[VaHawk]

BONer

 

HAHA! So weak!!!!!!!!!!!!, but KEEP trying! Is there anyone on any site more BORING than you????

[BewareofNick]

RE: BONer

 

Let's see: "JT", OneFinger, VaHawk, Conway...should i go on?

[btownguy]

If you join Netflix, you can have all the episodes sent to you. The day after the QAF DVDs went on sale, the first three discs were in my mailbox from Netflix. I do not have cable, but have followed the QAF series via DVD and the short excerpts on the QAF website. I too will miss the series and only hope that HBO, Bravo, or Showtime will start a new series in the upcoming season.