California Vacation Part 1

[KY_TOP]

There hasn't been too many Travel Logs on here lately so I thought it was about time for one. Several months ago I decided to plan a 8 day vacation to CA. I had never been to San Francisco so the first 4 days I planned for there. As my time in SF is coming to a close it has been an awesome trip.

 

SF Day 1: I arrived Saturday evening and after I got settled into the Hotel I found Nob Hill Theatre to only be about 4-5 blocks from my hotel. Of course I had to check out the "world famous" Theatre. I was expecting a sleazey place and was very much surprised. There were about 1/2 a dozen people in the place and other than a male/female couple all were well behaved. Ex Gaiety dancer Mauricio was the headliner and very friendly. He offered a private for $150 and after some thought, why not? He actually was alot more interactive than I was expecting and I had a good time.

 

SF Day 2: I rode the cable car to Fisherman's wharf in the morning and did the tourist thing. Found a great poster shop. Coming down a couple of these hills on that cable car felt like the downhill of a roller coaster. Got back to the Hotel in time for a short workout and a nap before my 1st escort of the trip arrived. I had made arrangements about a month ago for my SF and LA escorts and only had 1 guy, out of 9 I contacted, not respond. Escort #1 had been on my list for a long time, Ricardo. Let's just say I was not disappointed, had a great evening with this muscle stud with awesome sensitive nipples,that included dinner. Review coming as soon as I get home.

 

SF Day 3: I spent the morning at some of the many stores downtown and had an early afternoon appointment with Braeden Casey. He was the perfect picture of the college football jock I always fantasized about having sex with. WOW, awesome time. Another review as soon as I get home. After Braeden left, I caught one of the vintage street cars to the Castro district as many had suggested and walked around for awhile. Had dinner at Home restaurant that both Ricardo and Braeden had suggested and caught the streetcar back to my hotel. I was surprised that the return trip streetcar was a vintage from my hometown in KY, how cool. Too bad we still don't have them.

 

SF Day 4: M4M'er Westcoaster was great to offer to take me to breakfast and give me a native SF'ers tour of the area. I love history and his knowledge of the local history just added to the tour. Even took me across to visit Muir Woods and see the Redwoods. The tour lasted over 5 hours. Awesome time, Thanks Westcoaster for such great hospitality. Had time to take a nap and freshen up before an evening appointment with Tristian. What a toned fratboy and gosh is he wild in bed, and I do mean WILD. Yes another review coming as soon as I get home. Such a great end to my first trip to San Francisco.

 

Many cities that I've wanted to visit have been big disappointments after I actually get there. Not San Francisco, this is one awesome city and I got to have an unbelievable time with 3 great Escorts.

 

Well off to Part 2 of my California vacation in the morning...Hollywood here I come.

[Guest 2004]

Nice report KY almost like the old days. Also, it was great to read that Braeden is still in top notch form. He is on my list hopefully for later this year.

 

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It's nice to have free time even for a former year.

[Karl-G]

KY

 

Thanks much for the report on SF; it's enjoyable and helpful.

[JT Brooklyn]

KY.. Your Review of "Jeff Palmer" very nice read! He could not have had a more "Creditable" Fan Letter, to start his Reviews off with.. Glad to see he is not one of the "Only Hot in Video Type" of Guys..I know it is the 'Market' he is in.. But his 2 Hr Rate is Definitely a Deal Maker! LOL :+

[+ Oliver]

Jeff Palmer

 

KY -

Thanks for the tourist's review. I agree that SF is a treat.

 

Appreciated your review of Jeff Palmer - have now added him to my "Portland List" for my September trip there, thanks to your review!

[Guest mbarz]

No review is ever going to give Jeff Palmer credibility. He is a immoral walking STD that has no scruples about having unprotected sex with as many people as he can. He freely admits to having HIV, but denies that it causes AIDS. He is so delusional, he believes "Jesus" is protecting him, and that his faith in GOD has cured him and made him immune to AIDS. He conveniently claims he does not comprehend that when he cums in someones ass he may be infecting them, he believes he is showing them the ultimate love.

 

I was genuinely disturb when I read KY-Top's glowing review of him today, especially when KY said he had not seen any of Palmer's videos. He is an insatiable cum slut and loves to brag about it on his blog. http://www.jeffpalmer.net/thescoopnew.asp

 

I'm glad KY had a good time with him, but for his safety, I hope he practiced safe sex. Jeff Palmer is psychotic lunatic that should be locked up for purposely infecting people with HIV.

[KY_TOP]

> Also, it was great to read that Braeden is still in top notch form. He is on my list hopefully for later this year.

 

He is definitely in top form and looks much cuter in person. Actually he looks better in person than any of his pictures. A real hot cute muscle jock.

[BewareofNick]

I too felt some concern that KY seemed ignorant of who Jeff Palmer is and what kind of bareback cum slut he is. Now, I will say that Jeff is still a very attractive man, and I often wished I could hire, but that was before I knew he was poz and how delusional he is about HIV and AIDS. However, if you look at KY's list of reviews, you'll see that one of his first is of Brandon Keadin, a well reviewed bareback escort.

 

Previous Reviews: Sven/DC&LA

Steven Kesslar/Portland & SF; William/Orange County(retired);

Chantler West/Las Vegas; Jason/Las Vegas: Eric Stellar/LA;

Antonio O'Ryan AKA Stonie/LA; Ashley Jordan/LA; Nick/DC;

Niko#3 Montreal & NYC; Brandon Keadin?Chicago(retired)

 

http://www.male4malescorts.com/reviews/brandonkeadinchicago.html

 

Now, this does not mean that KY barebacked with him or Jeff Palmer or anyone else, but it does suggest either a deep seated naivete or that he hires who he hires and knows the risks involved. I certainly hope that the latter is the case.

[Guest 2004]

>I too felt some concern that KY seemed ignorant of who Jeff

>Palmer is and what kind of bareback cum slut he is. Now, I

>will say that Jeff is still a very attractive man, and I often

>wished I could hire, but that was before I knew he was poz and

>how delusional he is about HIV and AIDS.

 

You don't hire escorts that are honest about being poz regardless of how "delusional" you feel they are? Don't you think that maybe an escort or two who you've hired was poz and not honest with you?

 

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Time can really make one think, well someone.

[Guest mbarz]

>>I too felt some concern that KY seemed ignorant of who Jeff

>>Palmer is and what kind of bareback cum slut he is. Now, I

>>will say that Jeff is still a very attractive man, and I

>often

>>wished I could hire, but that was before I knew he was poz

>and

>>how delusional he is about HIV and AIDS.

>

>You don't hire escorts that are honest about being poz

>regardless of how "delusional" you feel they are? Don't you

>think that maybe an escort or two who you've hired was poz and

>not honest with you?

>

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>Time can really make one think, well someone.

 

I know you directed this at BON, but the concern isn't for hiring an escort that is HIV+, it's for hiring this HIV+ escort.

 

Jeff Palmer has publicly stated that he does not believe HIV causes AIDS or that he is putting other people at risk by having unprotected sex with them. He is delusional in his thinking that his believe in Jesus will protect him and the people he has sex with.

 

If you don't feel there is need for concern, read his blog, and see how he brags about having anonymous sex and shooting live ones up peoples asses. Do you think he discloses his status to every stranger he has sex with? If you do, then you are as delusional as he is.

 

I don't care how good looking he is, how hot, or how great he fucks. The guy is a menace and should be locked up for spreading HIV.

[Luv2play]

You have got it exactly backwards about Jeff Palmer. IMHO, he is NOT a menace to anyone about spreading HIV since he has openly proclaimed his positive HIV status. He has also made bareback films wherein he both gives and receives cum anally, a highly risky practice as anyone in 2005 knows.

 

Since he has made his staus known and he continues to escort, I have to assume anyone hiring his services either accepts his status and acts accordingly or, if ignorant of his status and indifferent to asking, is also acting in the full knowledge that this escort could be positive and, for whatever reason, is willing to accept that risk.

 

I have a great problem with the notion of locking anyone up who engages in unprotected sex with someone of either gender, where the contact is with a casual partner or paid escort. In either case, there is no basis for claiming violation of trust. You do NOT trust a stranger in these matters. A husband who spreads HIV to his faithful spouse is another matter. I would say, yes, lock him up. But not Jeff Palmer. He is being totally upfront about himself, even if he is delusional about HIV not causing AIDS. Any intelligent (or even unintelligent) person can draw his own conclusions about his beliefs in Jesus and HIV!

[Guest mbarz]

>You have got it exactly backwards about Jeff Palmer. IMHO, he

>is NOT a menace to anyone about spreading HIV since he has

>openly proclaimed his positive HIV status. He has also made

>bareback films wherein he both gives and receives cum anally,

>a highly risky practice as anyone in 2005 knows.

 

 

He has acknowledged that he has HIV, but he denies his HIV status and does not claim to be HIV+. Also, like KY-Top, not everyone is familiar with his video work and has not had the opportunity to see him take numerous loads up his ass and swallow tons of cum.

 

 

>Since he has made his status known and he continues to escort,

>I have to assume anyone hiring his services either accepts his

>status and acts accordingly or, if ignorant of his status and

>indifferent to asking, is also acting in the full knowledge

>that this escort could be positive and, for whatever reason,

>is willing to accept that risk.

 

 

Yes, the client should be responsible for their own protection, but if they are unaware of Palmer's history and the fact that he does not admit he is HIV+, they may take him at his word and be less cautious.

 

>I have a great problem with the notion of locking anyone up

>who engages in unprotected sex with someone of either gender,

>where the contact is with a casual partner or paid escort. In

>either case, there is no basis for claiming violation of

>trust. You do NOT trust a stranger in these matters. A husband

>who spreads HIV to his faithful spouse is another matter. I

>would say, yes, lock him up. But not Jeff Palmer. He is being

>totally upfront about himself, even if he is delusional about

>HIV not causing AIDS. Any intelligent (or even unintelligent)

>person can draw his own conclusions about his beliefs in Jesus

>and HIV!

 

Sorry, but I don't believe that a person with HIV, who denies he is infectious and will not admit HIV causes AIDS is "being totally upfront", and once again, not everyone is aware of his beliefs and not all people having sex with him are "johns" that have the benefit of discussing him on a message board.

 

I doubt, that if we were discussing a news article about some random HIV+ person -instead of a pornstar/escort- that was in denial about his HIV status, who was going around spreading HIV, you would be this compassionate, but since you think Palmer is "hot" you're willing to over look his criminal insanity.

[BewareofNick]

>You don't hire escorts that are honest about being poz

>regardless of how "delusional" you feel they are? Don't you

>think that maybe an escort or two who you've hired was poz and

>not honest with you?

 

As mbarz stated, it was really more of a commentary on Jeff Palmer himself rather than anyone else. If you read KY's review of Jeff, you can see that Jeff got hard and was apparently attempting to penetrate KY without a condom. That right there shows how dangerous it is to hire Jeff, because he has no concern for your safety since he believes that AIDS is a myth. How many clients do you think that Jeff has done that to and actually penetrated? How many, perhaps in the midst of overwhelming lust, allowed him to continue, perhaps even to completeion? (They would have no one to blame but themselves for the consequences however). Read Jeff's blog sometime.

[Luv2play]

>

>He has acknowledged that he has HIV, but he denies his HIV

>status and does not claim to be HIV+. >

>>Since he has made his status known and he continues to

>escort,

 

You have me confused here. If he has acknowledged he has HIV, then he acknowledges that he is HIV+. Or are you saying, he once acknowledged it but now denies it. That would put a different slant on things.

 

>

>

>Yes, the client should be responsible for their own

>protection, but if they are unaware of Palmer's history and

>the fact that he does not admit he is HIV+, they may take him

>at his word and be less cautious.

 

Sorry, I don't buy this. If an escort is willing to bareback with you, then it is evident he has done it before and only a naive fool would take him at his word.

>

 

>

>Sorry, but I don't believe that a person with HIV, who denies

>he is infectious and will not admit HIV causes AIDS is "being

>totally upfront",

 

Again, as long as he is acknowledging he has HIV, then whatever else he says or claims is irrelevant, his personal beliefs notwithstanding.

>

>I doubt, that if we were discussing a news article about some

>random HIV+ person -instead of a pornstar/escort- that was in

>denial about his HIV status, who was going around spreading

>HIV, you would be this compassionate, but since you think

>Palmer is "hot" you're willing to over look his criminal

>insanity.

 

You really need to clear this up; you say he acknowledges he has HIV but is in denial about his status. I can see where he might be in denial about THE CONSEQUENCES of having HIV, but that is totally different than being in denial about having HIV, which you say he is not.

[KY_TOP]

Gosh, how did my wonderful California vacation get so far off track.

 

As for the other conversation, I have hired over 70 escorts in almost 4 years. I am sure many have or do bareback and "might" also be positive. As I am sure escorts should also assume the same about their clients. It takes 2 to tango and I always have my own supply of condoms.

[Curmudgeon]

>You have me confused here. If he has acknowledged he has HIV,

>then he acknowledges that he is HIV+. Or are you saying, he

>once acknowledged it but now denies it. That would put a

>different slant on things.

 

Palmer is a confusing guy. He did indeed admit to being HIV+ at one point, and then apparently he found Jesus and swears he was cured. (Actually, I think he called it purified.)

 

He denies any link between HIV and AIDS, and claims it's all a fabrication of the US pharmaceutical industry.

 

You can read all this for yourself on his site, if it's still up there. If you can read it, that is. English is most definitely a second language. Couple that with a couple of blown fuses and you get quite a bit of rambling. It can take quite a bit of effort to make it through one of his missives.

 

Even before he departed "mainstream" porn, he was known for "fan appreciation events" where he'd sign autographs with his pants off and anyone who wanted a slurp was welcome. He now writes about (his words) "sharing leche", his and theirs, fore and aft, during these events.

 

Frankly, I wouldn't be so worried about HIV from him. That's a given risk. It's the other STDs that are rampant in the gay community that a condom WON'T protect you from I'd be more worried about.

 

He is an attractive little guy, and he has a great ass I wouldn't mind test driving myself. But something ain't right with that boy, so I won't be going there.

[BewareofNick]

http://www.greenapplebooks.com/images/thumbisbn/0060953055.jpg

 

Heh!

[BewareofNick]

More delusions from Ms. Palmer

 

Jeff is Rentboy's Rentboy of the Day today!

 

Here's what it reads:

 

Make your fantasies come true and meet me live in the flesh, an unforgetable experience, make me your birthday gift to your special friend you may want to surprise. I live in Portland, OR. and travel all over, I'm disease free and lots of fun as you can see in my movies specially in my latest ones. WIll be in Los Angeles from August 1st to August 10th, 2005.

[Guest mbarz]

Good reply curmudgeon, you summed it up perfectly.

[sncalif]

Nick...what's your point in listing the escorts KY has reviewed? Are you implying they bareback?

[BewareofNick]

>Nick...what's your point in listing the escorts KY has

>reviewed? Are you implying they bareback?

 

If you'll read the post again, you'll see that I only stated that Brandon Keadin was a known bareback escort. Jeff Palmer is also a known bareback escort. I often advise clients that if they want to know if their escort barebacks, look at reviews of bareback escorts and see who else the client has hired. Other than Brandon and Jeff, I cannot say with any degree of certainty that any of the others listed are bareback escorts. If you see an implication there, that is certainly your prerogative.

[+ Axiom2001]

KYTop, I thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences re: your first visit to "The City by the Bay." And I am also elated that you got the opportunity to be with Ricardo, a young man I've been fortunate enough to have seen on innumerable occasions (two reviews + many sessions gone unreviewed). I find him to be humuane, personable, concerned, enthusiastic, energetic, and many other superlatives I could use without making what I wrote sound like a review.

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SF has always been one of my favorite cities; now it's Rio. I just wish Northern CA had more warmth weather-wise, especially during the traditional summer months. ...was there yesterday but yearned for more summery weather that prevailed a little more north as well as part of the immediate south.

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Lastly, it's too bad and unfortunate that most of the responses here focused on folks mentioning escorts whom you saw. That part was fine, but the castigation and disparagement was again UNCALLED for. One can write without using the venom and ridicule and sarcasm, can he not? I only wish!

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Thanks again, man, and I await your LA vignette. I hope after you've written it that some of the respondents here will not thrash and trash it as they did this particular one.

[Guest PWIT]

Nob Hill Theatre

 

>SF Day 1: I arrived Saturday evening and after I got settled

>into the Hotel I found Nob Hill Theatre to only be about 4-5

>blocks from my hotel. Of course I had to check out the "world

>famous" Theatre. I was expecting a sleazey place and was very

>much surprised. There were about 1/2 a dozen people in the

>place and other than a male/female couple all were well

>behaved. Ex Gaiety dancer Mauricio was the headliner and very

>friendly. He offered a private for $150 and after some

>thought, why not? He actually was alot more interactive than I

>was expecting and I had a good time.

 

I will be visiting San Fran next month. Looking for things to do. I had visited Nob Hill Theatre in past visits and enjoyed some of the dances there (not all, but most were good). Is this place still around and still worth a visit? The website link doesn't seem to be working anymore.

 

BTW...I first found out about the website rentboy.com from a dancer there. I saw the dancer at a nearby restaurant that had a few tables outside. He recognized me (I had been a pretty good tipper!) as I was walking by and asked me to join him. We chatted for a while and he told me he was on a rentboy.com. I was naive at the time about escorting and didn't know what he was talking about. I didn't have my laptop with me but tried to use the in room online internet service to look it up - you know, the crappy thing with the keyboard that works with the TV - it was so slow and most of the websites didn't display correctly. It frustrated me so that I gave up trying. I did check it out again when I was home and so regretted not knowing about it sooner. He was a hot guy and great dancer named 'Devon' or 'Devan'. He was in Miami for a while but haven't seem him on rentboy.com in a while. What I wouldn't do to have that week to live over! :-)

[+ Axiom2001]

RE: Nob Hill Theatre

 

Yes, the Nob Hill, formerly a cinema but now a place for guys dancing, etc., is STILL in business. Why would it not be after KY wrote about his experiences which he encountered almost a little over a year ago. The place has been around for a while!! It's there but quite different from its past.

 

For things to do and see: there are a lot of websites, gay and non gay which should be of some help to you. http://www.gaysanfrancisco.com. http://www.Travelocity.com/gaytravel and http://www.Expedia.com/gaytravel. Do a google search --gay San Francisco. Lastly, check http://www.ebar.com (the weekly gay 'rag').

 

I live 2hrs away from this city, so it is really like a second home to me, not so much so know than in the past 30+ years.

[Guest zipperzone]

>He has acknowledged that he has HIV, but he denies his HIV

>status and does not claim to be HIV+.

 

What am I missing here? How can he "acknowledge that he has HIV" and still "deny his HIV status"

 

To my way of thinking one contradicts the other.