Denied by my doctor

[sizzlingrice]

I had my Regular physical check up this morning. Everything went well. I went this morning with the goal of getting a prescription for Cialis. I've had some erectile problems before, like cumming when my dick was semi hard or not maintaining an erection long enough. These made me think of getting help. I have been using Zimaxx from Herbal Remedies that I ordered over the internet and it worked really well until lately they have been tampering with the formulation and it's not as potent as before. They're cheaper than viagra or cialis. I have also used generic Cialis that I ordered over the internet and it worked really well. It's more expensive than Zimaxx though.

 

So today I thought of asking for a prescription from my doctor since I found out through this forum and from a friend that it's covered by the insurance company. I was denied by my doctor. He said I am too young. He didn't ask why and I was embarassed to tell him. I just let it go and said to myself that I'll just have to get it from the internet.

 

I will be forty in a few months, I exercise a lot and keep myself fit and trim. I've had minor erectile problems for about four years. Are there any out there with the same minor problem as I do? I have a solution as to where to get the medication I need, I just wanted to know if, at my age, am I alone with this issue?

 

Have a great weekend!

[Rick Munroe]

>I was denied by my

>doctor. He said I am too young. He didn't ask why and I was

>embarassed to tell him.

 

First of all, I don't think you should ever be embarrassed to tell your doctor anything that's going on with your body. That's why you go to a doctor, isn't it...so they can help you stay healthy and be in the best possible physical condition? I also think that the fact that he immediately brushed it off and didn't ask if you had erectile dysfunction seems to show that he himself is uptight about the subject. My advice would be to get a new doctor. Or...go back and insist that he give you your prescription. I would never put up with behavior like that.

[Guest skrubber]

When I asked my doctor (for Viagra) he immediately agreed and gave me the prescription but added that he didn't think anyone under 60 should need them - I'm 51. Never a problem after that when asking for more.

[JT Brooklyn]

Rick is definitely right. IF you can't ask and discuss "Anything" Medical with your Doc, who can you? I don't think "Age" is a definite determing factor..As far as Advertising goes, The Drug Companies seem to use Guys between 40 and 60 in there ADS..Of course you can get all ED Meds online. But probably Easiest and Safest thru your own Doctor..

[BigK]

I think you should make an appointment with a urologist to discuss even a "minor problem". It will probably be just that...a minor problem, but you will have peace of mind and solid advice as to medication alternatives given your age/health etc.

[whipped guy]

I’ve had a lot of experience with the health-care profession, and from both sides of the isle so to speak.

 

Unfortunately most professionals DON’T listen to their patients. It is their goal to examine you and then exit as soon as possible. (Believe me, various doctors have their own techniques to minimize the time spent with you.) This coupled with the fact that many patients are intimidated by being in the very presence of THE DOCTOR, results in many unanswered and frankly many UNASKED questions. When the subject is sex… that only complicates the situation.

 

Rick Munroe is exactly right. DON’T be embarrassed. You are the one paying for the visit. Make sure you get your point across and DON’T get demoralized or become fearful of “the white coat”. If a doctor can’t spend at least 5 extra minutes to help you solve a legitimate problem or concern, then by all means change doctors.

 

This is NOT a joke, but doctors should run their businesses like an escort service.

 

Think of the best escort experiences you have ever had. Firstly, the guy LISTENED to all your needs and concerns prior to the session. Secondly, he then provided you with a service that SATISFIED all those needs and concerns. Finally, he did a follow up and tried to build a RELATIONSHIP that would insure that future encounters would not only be as successful, but actually more successful.

 

If more physicians adhered to this philosophy there would be a lot of healthy, smiling individuals leaving medical offices...

[taylorky]

>

>

>This is NOT a joke, but doctors should run their businesses

>like an escort service.

>

 

>

odd....why would a doctor let ANYONE with a buck shove a dick up his ass.....unless of course he was a hobbydoc.....sorta like a hobbyho,i guess.

[FrancoDiSantisxxx]

Minor

 

>I think you should make an appointment with a urologist to

>discuss even a "minor problem". It will probably be just

>that...a minor problem, but you will have peace of mind and

>solid advice as to medication alternatives given your

>age/health etc.

 

There are other issues which could affect some of the problems you might be having as well as other problems others could be having: for example, smoking, lack of sleep, etc. These are all things which you should be able to discuss with your doctor. Frankly, if I was an MD and someone simply asked me for something which was not necessarily medically indicated from the test run for your physical, I would be reluctant to do so. Doctors are facing heightened scrutiny of some things, such as anabolic steroids, however some (including yours) may simply be generally conservative and concered about their license.

 

On the other hand, your doctor should not prescribe something which may be medically necessary or beneficial. However, you do not say if you discussed these "minor" problems with him before asking for the prescription.

 

I think the suggestion of an appointment with a urologist is an excellent one and would ask for the referral.

 

Good luck!

[Guest]

>I went this morning with the goal of getting a

>prescription for Cialis. I've had some erectile problems

>before, like cumming when my dick was semi hard or not

>maintaining an erection long enough.

 

I can't quite tell from your post, but maybe your problem is premature ejaculation rather than impotence. Premature ejaculation is treated comletely differently from impotence (i.e. with SSRI's such as Zoloft, rather than PDE-5 inhibitors such as Viagra, Levitra, or Cialis). An interaction with a doctor is more likely to yield effective results if the patient communicates with the doctor regarding his problem, rather than coming with a fixed agenda such as "I want to get XYZ medicine I saw advertized on TV."

 

>I have been using Zimaxx from Herbal Remedies

>that I ordered over the internet and it worked really well

>until lately they have been tampering with the formulation and

>it's not as potent as before.

 

Herbal remedies/dietary supplements by law have no requirements to demonstrate either efficacy or safety. The vast majority are "snake oils" used to rip off consumers.

 

>I have also used generic Cialis that I ordered over

>the internet and it worked really well.

 

Cialis is under patent and not available generically. In order to make a generic cialis, one would need the sophisticated setup of a generic pharmaceutical manufacturer. Anybody who tried to make generic Cialis would be quickly shut down by the authorities.

 

>I was denied by my

>doctor. He said I am too young. He didn't ask why and I was

>embarassed to tell him.

 

That seems like a rather bizarre interaction. Assuming the problem is indeed impotence, and not premature ejaculation or something else, a complaint of impotence warrants an investigation. Impotence below the age of 40 is less than usual but not uncommon. Such a complaint should lead the doctor to ask why the man has impotence at a younger age than usual. Has there been illegal drug use (especially crank/amphetamines or cocaine)? Smoking? Diabetes? High blood pressure? Is libido a problem? Is there a structual problem with the penis such as Peyronie's disease? If the doctor really blew off your complaint (so to speak), you need to find another doctor.

[Guest zipperzone]

RE: Minor

 

>On the other hand, your doctor should not prescribe something

>which may be medically necessary or beneficial.

 

Please tell us the above sentence is a typo... please...

[Guest zipperzone]

>My advice would

>be to get a new doctor. Or...go back and insist that he give

>you your prescription. I would never put up with behavior

>like that.

 

I agree with Rick - I'd be changing doctors so fast he wouldn't know what hit him. And why should you go back again and insist - he doesn't deserve a second fee for something he brushed off so casually.

 

If your Dr. finds it awkward to discuss topics of this nature than you REALLY are seeing the wrong man.

 

By the way - is he gay? I find it much easier to discuss such subjects with a gay Dr. They seem to relate to our problems more.

[JT Brooklyn]

Definitely Agree with Whip! I always find it amazing that even my Dog's Vet has a "Time Sked" for Patients. Usually 5 Mins about the Canine and 10 Mins about "Chit-Chat".. That's about 4 Patients an Hour. I am sure there are many "Workin Guys", who IF they could Turn Over 4 Clients an Hour, Definitely Would..BUT they will never make the $$ these Doc's do! LOL :+

[whipped guy]

JT... Good buddy, unlike the your vet most physicians don’t even give you the 10 minutes of chit-chat... Now let’s do the math…. 60 divided by 5… times the charge of an office visit... etc... etc... etc... Yep... You get the picture... It simply boggles the mind!

 

In all seriousness, a study was done where the actual meaningful verbal interaction between physicians and patients could be measured in seconds as opposed to minutes. It is up to the PATIENT to change that statistic...

[guyinsf]

It sounds like you are assuming that the manufacturer of these generic drugs, such as Cialis, are on U.S. soil. It isn't so easy for the U.S. government to "quickly shut down" companies that are in India, for example. And if the country where the unauthorized generic drugs are manufactured does not care about protecting the patent of a U.S. or European based pharmaceutical company, they are unlikely to do anything to shut down such factories.

 

>>I have also used generic Cialis that I ordered over

>>the internet and it worked really well.

>

>Cialis is under patent and not available generically. In

>order to make a generic cialis, one would need the

>sophisticated setup of a generic pharmaceutical manufacturer.

>Anybody who tried to make generic Cialis would be quickly shut

>down by the authorities.

>

[londonbear]

One thing struck me was that you mentioned it was covered by your insurance. Is it possible that the doctor was referring to the insurance company's rules for prescribing so that they do not pay out for "recreational" rather than medical reasons for prescriptions?

 

In England the Health Service allows doctors to issue NHS Prescriptions (so the cost is the standard £6.50 or nil depending on various circumstances) but only under the following conditions:

 

"Drugs for erection problems can be prescribed on the NHS only if you have one of the following causes for your problems:1

 

* Diabetes, multiple sclerosis, Parkinson's disease, polio, prostate cancer, a severe injury to your pelvis, a disease that affects your nerves that is due to a problem in one of your genes, spina bifida or an injury to your spinal cord

* You are having dialysis to treat kidney failure

* You have had major pelvic surgery, a kidney transplant or your prostate removed

* Or if you were having treatment from the NHS on 14 September 1998.

 

However, you can also get drug treatments if you are suffering severe distress because of your erection problems. You may need to see a specialist to get a prescription. Examples of what may count as severe distress are:

 

* If the problem is ruining your relationship

* If you feel seriously down

* If you don't want to see friends or lead a normal social life

* If you can't face going to work."

 

http://www.besttreatments.co.uk/btuk/conditions/19382.html

 

This does not stop doctors issuing private prescriptions which are paid for at the full cost of the drug (and sometimes a charge for the prescription).

 

It could be that the reference to the over 60 rule is the insurance company's rule. If however you have sexual dysfunction, surely your doctor should investigate that to make sure there are no underlying causes like diabetes or high blood pressure? In which case, your insurance company should pay for your treatment or investigations. (Here I must profess ignorance of such insurance)

[sizzlingrice]

Thanks for all your suggestions.

 

A little more information about me: I don't drink, only socially. I don't smoke and don't do drugs, not even socially. I exercise a lot and at 6'2" and 178 ibs., I think I am fit and trim. That's why I am baffled by my erectile dysfunction problem.

 

My doctor is straight. I have been seriously thinking of changing doctor. Now I definitely am changing doctors. I have already asked around if there are any recommendations from my friends. Anyone you guys can recommend? I live is Los Angeles and have health insurance coverage from Blue Shield.

 

Again, thanks a lot for all your suggestions.

[JT Brooklyn]

Sizzling..You have better 'Stats' than some of these NYC Escorts! LOL I am sure you will find a Great New Doc in LA. Also Check out the "Sue Johansen" Site. It also is very informative on "ED" Topics. :+

[sizzlingrice]

Thanks. I love Sue Johansen. I used to watch her shows late at night before going to bed!

 

And she did say in her website talksexwithsue.com that "Now, there are two more drugs added to the arsenal to help with erectile dysfunction – Cialis and Levitra. But please remember, if you are experiencing low sex drive, reduced libido, these drugs will not get you turned on. If you are sexually aroused but have an unreliable erection, these medications do help solve that problem. "

[rocky]

Well this is timely but I know it's not the same

type of subject. I did have my doctor prescribe

cialis. This past weekend for the first time I

got scared, I actually started seeing blue lines

as I shoke my arm around, almost like my younger

acid trips (not kidding). This made me very

concerned, it was just this blue thin line when

I shook my arms, is this common? Rocky

[taylorky]

I actually started seeing blue lines

>as I shoke my arm around,

it was just this blue thin line when

>I shook my arms,

 

whoa man way cool.

[JT Brooklyn]

Hey Rocky, I am sure you have by now, But I think you better inform your Doctor. Every BODY is different, alot of these "Little Pills" affect everyone Differently.. Now apparently alot of the "Workin Guys" are also offering (Selling) them to Clients, Quite the "Little Businessmen" these guys are! LOL The point is, they should not be taken by everyone. AND if not prescribed by Doc, WHO you gonna call, IF a situation arises? Rocky Thankfully has the Doc to get back to!