Anyone have any experience with silverdaddies website?

[Michael Wayne]

I was in a relationship for 13 years so in that time all I did was spend time with my partner when I wasnt working. We were very happy so there was no need for me to be on any of the dating or hook up sites and I certainly wasnt on any of the i phone apps at that time. I am also NOT a technology guy so now that I am single I hear about various sites and apps mostly word of mouth from friends or clients. I checked out http://www.silverdaddies.com on the advice of a good friend who has been a member there for 12 years. He TOLD me that the site is escort friendly and that there are many escorts on there both for fun and for business purposes. Now let me say this: I do not hide my career from guys who i want to date or even just to hook up with for fun now that i am single. I find that horrible to lie. I tell them upfront that I am one of Americas' leading male escorts and that i have a bunch of great reviews on daddysreviews.com so they can check me out. I mean why surprise someone later....."oh by the way i am a gigolo." No! Anyway so Mr. Dennis who owns or moderates the silver daddies site informs me that, " Escorts are NOT allowed on the site...no exceptions." I find the idea that a leading gay website being OPENLY HOSTILE to escorts to be sad. His attitude was EXTREMELY UNFRIENDLY AND VERY NEGATIVE. I stated my profession in order to be honest. Guys the entire premise of our male escort biz is that , "Our fees are for our time and our time only not for any sexual acts or favors." Thus the biz is NOT illegal as long as we pay our taxes which I definitely do! Right? The whole reason that rentboy etc can exist is this premise. As a result i do NOT understand why a site would have such a policy. http://www.remtmen.com/mikeyusatop http://www.rentboy.com/magicmikey

[Michael Wayne]

I am NOT trying to be negative here but I am wondering about other guys experiences with the site and why i was told it WAS escort friendly but then found out just the OPPOSITE in my persoanl experience

[+ honcho]

I met my current boyfriend of 6 years on the site. I occasionally check it out for eye-candy value and curiosity; it was not

obvious to me that the owner was escort hostile (and given that the owner is from the Netherlands it's a little surprising).

 

Some of the profiles there of extraordinarily handsome thirty-somethings stress that they are not escorts.

 

Site policies are sometimes totally at the whim of the owner; and he may be conservative or fearful enough over

potential loss of income or jail time in Spain that he's not willing to take any risks whatsoever (even if it's not

rational).

 

I'd write him back and say just what you wrote here about your intentions - only to avoid heartbreak down the

road and not to be solciting business - and ask if he will let you create a profile without any references at all to escorting.

 

Still seems like a good way to meet people. Another alternative is daddydater.com .

 

(I haven't seen any references at all to escorting there, one way or another).

[+ FreshFluff]

Mikey, if you like the site, why not just tell people in the first email instead of in the profile?

[jackhammer91406]

I met a bunch of hot guys for free off this website back in the day. Not one was for pay, but many could have been pros. I don't recall anyone saying so in their profile so I think Fresh's suggestion is a good one. As a Daddy, I posted a profile and got a good amount of response and interest from young guys close to to my area. If you are looking to play, this is a great stop and shop for young and old. I have never looked at Grindr but I get the impression this site is very similar in intent. Just guys looking for some fun with the type they like.

[Scorpio]

I was on the site 10 or 11 years ago and don't remember any escort presence at all. Whether it be overt or covert. I do seem to recall that they were direct that the site was not to be used for monetary purposes. The owner can take any position that he wants with his site, whether or not you agree with it. Before joining a site, it's always helpful to read the terms of service, rather than make assumptions or rely on secondhand information. And as terms of use statements go theirs is fairly short and you appear to be in violation:

 

 

"The user shall not....(e) advertise or otherwise solicit funds or are a solicitation for goods or services. The user agrees to indemnify this site and its officers, directors, employees, and affiliates from and against any and all third party claims, demands, liabilities, costs, or expenses, including reasonable attorneys' fees, resulting from user's submission of any materials in violation of the foregoing restrictions. The user will accept full responsibility for the resulting actions of any submissions made to or posted on the site."

 

 

Even if you were just trying to be honest with your potential dates, the owner certainly was within his rights to suspect you were advertising and/or soliciting in violation of his terms of use. As Fresh mentioned, you could have just mentioned it in the first email.

 

 

i won't even get into the whole "euphemism" about time and Rentboy analogy that's not what the SilverDaddies website is about.

[rocky]

Well I'm back. Yes, as a "silver daddy" one who can be a sugar daddy as well as silver I have used this site. I find it uninspiring with respect to contacts. Indeed, I would hope that the escort community would be welcome to the site

since some of us as we mature and are not in shape look forward to escapes with escorts. I hope more of the escort

interested and escorts express a desire to belong..

[Nvr2Thick]

I was in a relationship for 13 years so in that time all I did was spend time with my partner when I wasnt working. We were very happy so there was no need for me to be on any of the dating or hook up sites and I certainly wasnt on any of the i phone apps at that time. I am also NOT a technology guy so now that I am single I hear about various sites and apps mostly word of mouth from friends or clients. I checked out http://www.silverdaddies.com on the advice of a good friend who has been a member there for 12 years. He TOLD me that the site is escort friendly and that there are many escorts on there both for fun and for business purposes. Now let me say this: I do not hide my career from guys who i want to date or even just to hook up with for fun now that i am single. I find that horrible to lie. I tell them upfront that I am one of Americas' leading male escorts and that i have a bunch of great reviews on daddysreviews.com so they can check me out. I mean why surprise someone later....."oh by the way i am a gigolo." No! Anyway so Mr. Dennis who owns or moderates the silver daddies site informs me that, " Escorts are NOT allowed on the site...no exceptions." I find the idea that a leading gay website being OPENLY HOSTILE to escorts to be sad. His attitude was EXTREMELY UNFRIENDLY AND VERY NEGATIVE. I stated my profession in order to be honest. Guys the entire premise of our male escort biz is that , "Our fees are for our time and our time only not for any sexual acts or favors." Thus the biz is NOT illegal as long as we pay our taxes which I definitely do! Right? The whole reason that rentboy etc can exist is this premise. As a result i do NOT understand why a site would have such a policy.

 

I am NOT trying to be negative here but I am wondering about other guys experiences with the site and why i was told it WAS escort friendly but then found out just the OPPOSITE in my persoanl experience

 

It's not the site owner's fault that your friend misled you -- if he did actually mislead you. It could be that the site was established with a no escort policy, and your friend has found that it's a good site for escorts regardless of the policy. Maybe the owner just doesn't have time to police the site properly, and maybe a lot of discreet escorting flies under the radar. I do find it impressive and admirable that you attempted to clarify the policy with the site owner.

 

I wouldn't characterize the policy as hostile. If someone wants to establish a social site for dating, chat, hookups and wants to limit the activity to that it is his prerogative. It's restrictive, not hostile. If I were organizing a local group for technology professionals and I chose to exclude recruiters I'm not hostile to recruiters I'm just limiting the scope of my group and ruling out certain activities.

 

There are a number of reasons why someone would want to exclude escorts. The potential legal risks have already been mentioned. Also, maybe the site owner and some participants don't like the idea of joining a group to meet men and then finding out some of more desirable men are charging for services. Many gay bars try to discourage escorting. I personally prefer to find my escorts on escort sites.

 

I enjoy the company of escorts. I don't believe, however, that you're entitled to ply your trade wherever men meet.

 

The idea that "(y)Our fees are for our time and our time only not for any sexual acts or favors" is, for lack of a better term, bullshit. Your fees are for sex (and thank God that they are). This overused phrase is a half-assed attempt to distort semantics and unsuccessfully create ambiguity. It's about as truthful as attempting to get out of a speeding ticket for driving 80 MPH in a 60 MPH zone by saying that you weren't intending to travel 80 miles or drive for an hour. This phrase does nothing to discourage law enforcement. Likewise, it does nothing to discourage guys that are looking for sex.

[+ Gar1eth]

I have never looked at Grindr but I get the impression this site is very similar in intent. Just guys looking for some fun with the type they like.[/color][/size][/font]

 

As you haven't been on Grindr- I am not sure you are correct. I have lived in two major metropolises (metropoli?-just kidding). In each city Grindr seemed to me to be mostly younger guys (in many cases very hot younger guys-oh and in my current decrepitude younger includes guys in their 30's maybe even in their early 40's) looking for other hot young guys. Sites that cater more to an older or bearish crowd are Bear411, Growlr -both for bears or bear lovers, Mister (the phone app equivalent of Daddy Hunt)- younger guys looking for older guys, vice versa, and even mature guys looking for other mature guys, Silverdaddies.com same as Mister, and Scruff - more all different ages but not so much those into twinks- but there might be twinks on there looking for more 'manly men'. I've seen a few escort profiles- or guys who after you talk to them for awhile reveal that they are escorts but not very many. There are other apps- Jack'd, Squirt, and others but I'm not familiar with all of them.

 

Gman

[+ FreshFluff]

There are a number of reasons why someone would want to exclude escorts. The potential legal risks have already been mentioned. Also, maybe the site owner and some participants don't like the idea of joining a group to meet men and then finding out some of more desirable men are charging for services. Many gay bars try to discourage escorting. I personally prefer to find my escorts on escort sites.

 

I agree, especially with the bolded part. The site has a brand image that it's trying to promote, and escorts may not be part of that.

 

But one problem, particularly for silverdaddies site, is how you decide who's soliciting or offering sex in exchange for goods or services. A site with "daddies" in the name will inevitably attract some guys who are interested in being or finding sugar daddies. That might mean anything a decent dinner to shopping trips at Cartier. It might mean helping out with the rent. It's pretty hard to ban guys like this, and even if it were possible, it would get rid of a decent chunk of the site's market.

[Irtwo]

It's not the site owner's fault that your friend misled you...

 

I was thinking the same thing, Your anger should be directed at your "good friend". I've used that site before, met some cool people, and its very clear to anyone using it that they discourage escorts.

[Michael Wayne]

It isnt anger. I have heeded this forums' advice and created a new profile on silver daddies which is very discreet and i am communicating my profession via email as suggested here.The response from other members has been 100% positive. They dont all book but everyone has been NICE. The owner/moderator has thus far not objected. My friends advice was correct but it seems as if we have to fly below the radar. That is fine. I do the same thing on grindr. The latest thing is that some of the really cute twinks on grindr have a fantasy of PAYING a hot daddy to play! Lastly i have to respond to the member who used the phrase and i quote, "bullshit," about our fees being for our time and our time only. I COULD NOT DISAGREE MORE.....nicely of course. Legally that is why the big three sites are ALLOWED to exist and LEGALLY that is why this august forum is allowed to exist. I am not a lawyer but i have fucked over a thousand of them and i have asked many of them for their counsel on this matter over the years so i would not state anything on here that i just pulled out of my cute little ass. http://www.rentmen.com/mikeyusatop

[Joe_Winko]

Silverdaddies isn't really a good site. the moderators there are very mean. in particular, one man named 'Southerncharm'

and i KNOW he's not a true southerner at all either. he always bashes me and bans me on chat for no reason even though I never insult or bully anyone. He's just a miserable old man who has no respect.

[jjkrkwood]

Silverdaddies isn't really a good site. the moderators there are very mean. in particular, one man named 'Southerncharm'

and i KNOW he's not a true southerner at all either. he always bashes me and bans me on chat for no reason even though I never insult or bully anyone. He's just a miserable old man who has no respect.

 

 

It be that way sometimes.... nothing you can do. the Mods rule !

[Electra225]

For me, it was a total waste of time. It is an interesting concept, but, ultimately, it does not live up to it's hype.

[+ Eric Hassan]

I've never accessed the site to promote my escorting business. To be honest, I think trying to promote an escort business on a site that isn't an escort site, even if you've heard they're "friendly" to escorts is not a great idea.

 

At any rate, I can say I did enjoy meeting some Silver Daddies on that site, and kept 2 of them for a while to help satisfy my need to suck dad cock.

[+ sniper]

It's one thing if you are using the dating site looking for a date and mentioning that you are an escort. It's another to be looking for a paying client on a site that is intended for dating. If you were just looking to date on this site you would have a point, but then you talk about booking clients through it.

[bostonman]

I've used the site as a hookup/dating site for a long time, and I find it's pretty much like any other site - sometimes you find nice guys, sometimes you don't. But I never really thought of it as a site for escorts - not all sites are, not should they be.

[MikeBiDude]

I've enjoyed silverdaddies.com myself, as a daddy. Nice pool of locals for me. I've never seen anyone trying to promote themselves as an escort - and trust me I'm *expert* at the code words, lol. I've had one ongoing regular buddy the last few years from there.

[+ Charlie]

A friend of mine found two younger partners through the site. The first one was a disaster, who stole many belongings when he left. The second one was really attractive, but his cold personality alienated many of my friend's old friends.

[Bearofdistinction]

For me, it was a total waste of time. It is an interesting concept, but, ultimately, it does not live up to it's hype.

 

I met and played with 4-5 different guys from the Site. All proved to be nice and fun.

Some were close to my age 2 were in their 30's looking for a Daddy and the last was a hot 25yo

lawyer -- We had fun but it turned out I was not old enough for him (What a Great Way o split!)

We are still friendly and occasionally lick each other when the opportunity arises.

[+ honcho]

I've been dating somebody I met through Silverdaddies for 10 years. He is a younger than I am ... by 5 months.

[Joe_Winko]

Silverdaddies isn't really a good site. the moderators there are very mean. in particular, one man named 'Southerncharm'

and i KNOW he's not a true southerner at all either. he always bashes me and bans me on chat for no reason even though I never insult or bully anyone. He's just a miserable old man who has no respect.

 

In addition to this, another important thing to note is that the men on silverdaddies are just 'all talk'.. they'll say they want to meet and tell you how excited they are but the truth is, they have absolutely no intention of actually meeting. They're kinda 'gutless' really.

I would definitely know. I've been on that site for 2 whole years.

 

It be that way sometimes.... nothing you can do. the Mods rule !

 

True, but Southerncharm is a jerk. but he'll get what's coming to him eventually, if he hasn't already -_-

Karma is a slow moving storm but when it comes, it tares shit up!

[bostonman]

In addition to this, another important thing to note is that the men on silverdaddies are just 'all talk'.. they'll say they want to meet and tell you how excited they are but the truth is, they have absolutely no intention of actually meeting. They're kinda 'gutless' really.

I would definitely know. I've been on that site for 2 whole years.

 

I think that's essentially true of any hook up site. I've had no more or less issues with guys on Manhunt on other sites. And I have had successful hookups from Silverdaddies, as well as other sites, along with the guys who fink out.

[Joe_Winko]

Another thing i noticed on silverdaddies is lots of hate/milenial-bashing coming from the 'daddies' on that site.

 

it seems more like the site is about older men hooking up with each other instead of younger guys hooking up with older men.