Michael Lucas and Falcon Studios going BB!

[marylander1940]

I know there were a few threads last year about "main stream" studios like Corbin Fisher and Sean Cody going BB, but Michael Lucas one of the greatests prima donnas on this business swore he'd never go BB and now this...

 

Yinz know my opinion about using condoms for anal at all times and this ain't a forum to be judgmental about anybody's behavior.

 

 

 

http://str8upgayporn.com/shock-michael-lucas-outs-lucas-entertainment-bareback-performers-as-hiv-positive/

 

http://www.frontiersla.com/frontiers-blog/2014/01/20/falcon-studios-goes-digitally-barebackbut-does-it-matter

[jimboivyo]

that's cause he's sucking on the tit of money and he can't get enough. simple reason.

 

he has no morals anyway, why expect them from him now?

[adriano46]

that's cause he's sucking on the tit of money and he can't get enough. simple reason.

 

he has no morals anyway, why expect them from him now?

 

Not to force this to move to the political forum-- Michael IS Russian and we now see daily how honest many Russians can be.... It is not what they SAY but more importantly what they DO.

[marylander1940]

Not to force this to move to the political forum-- Michael IS Russian and we now see daily how honest many Russians can be.... It is not what they SAY but more importantly what they DO.

 

Is Putin looking for weapons of mass destruction in Ukraine or just oil?

 

Btw, Michael Lucas is also Jewish, is he dishonest because of been Jewish or Russian? Maybe both.... Pornstars ain't war heroes or Cancer doctors, right? Is there any decent pornstar or escort out there? I hope so.

 

Possibly been a homosexual doesn't encourage him to tell the truth, aren't fags all screwed up in their minds?

 

(that was sarcasm....)

 

Please, let's don't make generalizations about how come "many" of those people are like that, there's dishonest people everywhere and the place they were born has nothing to do with their behavior.

[+ ArVaGuy]

It should be noted that Falcon is removing the condoms digitally. They are still practicing safe sex on the set. However, the fact that Falcon is doing this proves the market place is demanding bareback content. If such were not the case there would be only a handful of bareback websites and video producers.

 

Falcon and Ch1Releasing, Chi Chi LaRue's company, still continue to market their Pre-condom era films from the early 1980s and 1970s. The very time during which HIV was spreading like wildfire. Does anyone find this hypocritical? If these particular studios are so serious about HIV would they not just not consign these early videos to the vault? But then how would they make any money standing on such a principle? Oh, I forgot, never let principle stand in the way of making a buck.

 

The gay market has spoken very loudly indeed...and demanded its porn be bareback.

[JT Brooklyn]

No surpise here! Lucas has been filling his coffers back in the Motherland for Year's. He is very well known for Importing the Boys then dumping them at his will to become "Working Guys" out of their necessity to pay their Rent! Sad Reality of the Wonderful World of Porno!

[bigvalboy]

It should be noted that Falcon is removing the condoms digitally. They are still practicing safe sex on the set. However, the fact that Falcon is doing this proves the market place is demanding bareback content. If such were not the case there would be only a handful of bareback websites and video producers.

 

Falcon and Ch1Releasing, Chi Chi LaRue's company, still continue to market their Pre-condom era films from the early 1980s and 1970s. The very time during which HIV was spreading like wildfire. Does anyone find this hypocritical? If these particular studios are so serious about HIV would they not just not consign these early videos to the vault? But then how would they make any money standing on such a principle? Oh, I forgot, never let principle stand in the way of making a buck.

 

The gay market has spoken very loudly indeed...and demanded its porn be bareback.

 

Hypocritical and dangerous. By digitally removing condoms, does that not also support BB?

[+ ArVaGuy]

Hypocritical and dangerous. By digitally removing condoms, does that not also support BB?

 

 

Its a a response to the marketplace. Trying to meet the customers demand while splitting the difference. It will be interesting to see is sales of such a product prove successful. If so, then look for Falcon to produce more fake bareback. I'm skeptical that such product will be embraced by consumers of bareback porn. The expense of digital editing may prove for naught. If anything this attempt to appease the consumer demonstrates a financial desperation on Falcon's part and it's parent company Raging Stallion. There's also a high degree of cynicism on management's part to try and fool the customer and make a quick buck.

[shadowcatzxxx]

But back to the OP ...

 

Setting aside national and ethnic stereotypes, I had really developed a sort of "fondness" for Lucas. He has always been a businessman first (and never one lacking in ego), but he broke lots of new ground, had a refreshing approach, opened our eyes to an entire new word of hot men and locations, etc.

 

I had noticed his BB trend in trailers over the last few months and was VERY disappointed. This really isn't a positive trend.

 

I cancelled a meeting with an escort yesterday after rereading an e-mail he sent me in which he said he "generally" practices safe se ... "depending on the connection." Again, we need to have no illusions when we hire, & I am always super safe, but REALLY!

 

Sad, very sad.

 

I worry about the new generation of guys who don't have the hard and sad lessons of the 80's burned into their consciousness. I hope we don't see a whole new wave of seroconversions.

 

Sigh

[Michael Wayne]

as i have posted here before BB HAS BECOME A NATIONAL EPIDEMIC! It is now the FIRST question a potential new client asks. Thank God for my regulars! http://www.rentboy.com/magicmikey

[marylander1940]

No surpise here! Lucas has been filling his coffers back in the Motherland for Year's. He is very well known for Importing the Boys then dumping them at his will to become "Working Guys" out of their necessity to pay their Rent! Sad Reality of the Wonderful World of Porno!

 

Sounds like infamous Jason Sparks without the drugs though.

 

He feeds his 'escorts' (aka lost homeless youth) drugs and pimps them out on the road. If they don't make enough money, they are dumped off and not let back on the party bus.

 

Jason's asked me to tour with him before. He's quite the business man - which is dangerous when you consider escorts and drugs are involved.

 

Thanks a lot for saying it! You dared to open your mouth, and now I'll open mine...

 

I know a guy who was a runaway kid, he sais Jason approached him offering him a ride, took his ID and pushed him into escorting to pay for gasoline, another twink told me he woke up one day with him fucking him raw... If they guys had been women, we would be talking about pimping or slavery.

 

Besides he's in his 40's. My worst experience, I saw him in Birmingham, he usually goes to cities where there are not many escorts and plenty of guys in the closet.

 

Don't deal with him, he's a famous scammer, an "a la carte" escort, everything costs a little more from the basic rate and if you don't cum fast, he'll keep telling you to do it.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Mr. Lucas falls into a similar kind of business in the future following the Market's needs, he's already going BB something he said he would never do, I just wonder how optional that choice will be for the guys he imports from Eastern Europe on a tourist Visa.

[Lankypeters]

FWIW a Lucas pornstar / escort told me Lucas' business is kept afloat by Lucas' rich bf.

[+ deej]

Its a a response to the marketplace. Trying to meet the customers demand while splitting the difference. It will be interesting to see is sales of such a product prove successful. If so, then look for Falcon to produce more fake bareback. I'm skeptical that such product will be embraced by consumers of bareback porn. The expense of digital editing may prove for naught. If anything this attempt to appease the consumer demonstrates a financial desperation on Falcon's part and it's parent company Raging Stallion.

 

Raging Stallion actually invented the technique several years ago, long before they bought Falcon. It appears to have been successful for them.

[+ deej]

Falcon and Ch1Releasing, Chi Chi LaRue's company, still continue to market their Pre-condom era films from the early 1980s and 1970s. The very time during which HIV was spreading like wildfire. Does anyone find this hypocritical?

 

I don't. They didn't MAKE the things. ChiChi was one of the first to use condoms in the first place. (Falcon was one of the LAST.) (S)He actually quit making videos for Vivid because they refused to use condoms.

 

What I find hypocritical is a studio like Sean Cody or Corbin Fisher putting up a disclaimer saying "we test our models using the very latest techniques" or whatever they say. It's a carefully worded disclaimer but notice they don't say what they do with the results. Are models who test poz prevented from shooting? They don't say. They leave it to you, the viewer, to assume.

 

They've sidestepped the issue with slight of hand, and they've been given a complete pass by consumers.

 

One of the reasons people like ChiChi have always demanded condoms is they KNOW that some of their models have to be poz. It's inescapable. Safer sex is the responsible thing whether it's two porn stars in front of a camera or two random guys rutting in the bathroom of a WeHo bar.

[+ dupontversDC]

How many times are we going to have this exact same thread? The market has spoken.

[gallahadesquire]

I don't. They didn't MAKE the things. ChiChi was one of the first to use condoms in the first place. (Falcon was one of the LAST.) (S)He actually quit making videos for Vivid because they refused to use condoms.

 

What I find hypocritical is a studio like Sean Cody or Corbin Fisher putting up a disclaimer saying "we test our models using the very latest techniques" or whatever they say. It's a carefully worded disclaimer but notice they don't say what they do with the results. Are models who test poz prevented from shooting? They don't say. They leave it to you, the viewer, to assume.

 

They've sidestepped the issue with slight of hand, and they've been given a complete pass by consumers.

 

One of the reasons people like ChiChi have always demanded condoms is they KNOW that some of their models have to be poz. It's inescapable. Safer sex is the responsible thing whether it's two porn stars in front of a camera or two random guys rutting in the bathroom of a WeHo bar.

 

If one takes a look a, for instance, the Sean Cody models who were active before the site went bare-back, and disappeared when BB became the norm: One wonders what their HIV status was? Or was it merely a protest?

[Newly]

It's funny in a sad way. Reminds me of the right wingers saying that sex education just leads to experimentation, and the only way to prevent unmarried sex is to practice abstinance. Regardless of the realities around them, they refused to think it made sense to talk about birth control. Our threads here on barebacking are the same. Regardless of the fact that it is becoming the norm in porn, and probably more common in hiring situations we're going to change it all by not supporting sites that allow it and not hiring escorts who don't take a stand against it. Whenever you try to talk about new findings in HIV prevention by medication and genetic research there is indignation that by doing so one is explicitly condoning it. The solution is really quite simple, do whatever you feelis right for you and approach every sex partner as being potentially HIV positive, but don't expect to see a widespread change in behavior from the actions of a few persons on one site.

[shadowcatzxxx]

Something we all can do is support hiring of people who we know practice safe sex only (still acting as though each is HIV positive unless the individual is trustworthy and well-known on the board to have a line of like-minded regulars to sustain his business ... and even then taking necessary precautions), and patronizinge only studios that use condoms. Lately, I have been PARTICULARLY liking the way Randy Blue explicitly incorporates putting on condoms into their videos ... rather than have them magically "appear" just before penetration. I really like, for example, several of the recent pseudo-acted-sxcenario videos in which Austin pauses to wrap it in the middle of seducing/dominating his partner. For me, the "reality" of it actually makes it hotter, because that sets up a fantasy that I could imagine wanting to recreate by hiring Austin on purpose. (For example: http://www.randyblue.com/video/welcome-to-la-burbank/2669)

[bigvalboy]

Something we all can do is support hiring of people who we know practice safe sex only (still acting as though each is HIV positive unless the individual is trustworthy and well-known on the board to have a line of like-minded regulars to sustain his business ... and even then taking necessary precautions), and patronizinge only studios that use condoms. Lately, I have been PARTICULARLY liking the way Randy Blue explicitly incorporates putting on condoms into their videos ... rather than have them magically "appear" just before penetration. I really like, for example, several of the recent pseudo-acted-sxcenario videos in which Austin pauses to wrap it in the middle of seducing/dominating his partner. For me, the "reality" of it actually makes it hotter, because that sets up a fantasy that I could imagine wanting to recreate by hiring Austin on purpose. (For example: http://www.randyblue.com/video/welcome-to-la-burbank/2669)

 

Although I agree with you, I think that dupontversDC unfortunately is correct here. I think the market has spoken. The number of sites and studios that are promoting BB is staggering. I however remember the dark days in the 80's when good friends just vanished over night. It still cares the hell out of me.

[Steven_Draker]

How many times are we going to have this exact same thread?

 

As often as necessary ;-)

 

http://blog.identropy.com/Portals/40850/images/Promote-Awareness.png

[marylander1940]

Although I agree with you, I think that dupontversDC unfortunately is correct here. I think the market has spoken. The number of sites and studios that are promoting BB is staggering. I however remember the dark days in the 80's when good friends just vanished over night. It still cares the hell out of me.

 

I remember that too.

 

Obesity is a national security thread, is HIV next?

[shadowcatzxxx]

YES STEVEN!!

 

THANKS YOU ... for everyone whose awareness might be raised!

 

From one who lost MOST of his best gay friends (and two former lovers) during the 80's ... long before many of these kids were born ...

[bigvalboy]

I remember that too.

 

Obesity is a national security thread, is HIV next?

 

Hhmmm, not sure where you're going with this, but I had Granola, Skim milk, a banana, and black coffee for breakfast.

[marylander1940]

Hhmmm, not sure where you're going with this, but I had Granola, Skim milk, a banana, and black coffee for breakfast.

 

 

 

The treatment is very expensive and at least here in DC is paid by the city.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/susan-blumenthal/obesity_b_1580563.html

 

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/07/27/157499134/cost-of-treatment-still-a-challenge-for-hiv-patients-in-u-s

 

My friend, I'm glad 90% of us on here play safe we ain't going to be able to change other people's behavior and I think porno is going BB anyways, let's move.

[bigvalboy]

Fascinating article. In fact I had not really thought of obesity in those terms, nor to the extent that the article suggests. The article does make some interesting and undisputed points. I for one know several people who suffer from chronic over-weight, I won't go so far as to say they are obese, but their weight has a dramatic affect on their lives, the lives of their family members, and the lives of their co-workers. I think that their are too many factions at fault here to lay the blame on anyone entity, however I do believe that education begins in the home, first with the parents, then with the young kids.

 

Thanks for the links, it was a good read.