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at the expense of this sounding like a good ol' Joey B rant and/or stepping on the toes of a few people here who may do this, I have to wonder why some entirely strong and capable people push the button so the door opens for them instead of doing the old-fashioned thing and opening the door yourself....if the excuse is you don't want germs, well, you're touching that button!.....is there any other possibility other than pure laziness?

 

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and please don't get me started on people who sit in their cars in a parking lot, windows rolled up, sunny and 72 out, and have their engine idling for a half-hour or more while just sitting there.....

 

sorry to be a grump today....

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Well, sometimes laziness can be a handicap. But, really, is this the type of stuff that raises your ire? It's one thing to take the handicapped seat on the subway or bus when there is someone else who needs the seat more. In the case of the door button, however, no one is being harmed or even inconvenienced. I would try to find some more meaningful injustices to be upset about, if I were you.

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Wow azdr, you do sound a little grumpy today. ;) No matter, I know this is not your usual mood. We all have things that just rub us the wrong way. That being said, I have been known to sit in my car and idle the engine when it is 72 out. In LA I considered 72 way too cold to have the windows down, so they would be up and the heat on. I like 80+.....AND here in FTL, when it is 72 out, it is most likely way too humid to keep the windows down, so I run the air while I sit there. You never know what is comfortable for someone.

 

BUT the handicap door thing is just pure laziness, plain and simple, and yes I have hit that button once or twice, WHY? because I could, sorry....LOL

 

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I guess I'm one of those lazy people who occasionally presses the door opener button. What's more, I don't feel the slightest bit guilty about it. Consider:

- It doesn't harm or inconvenience anyone. My use of the handicap button doesn't prevent anyone else from using it, and I'm pretty sure that the expense of operating it is a minimal cost to the business... I feel a little more guilty when I take more napkins or catsup packets than I need and throw them away on my fast food tray.

- The mechanism that operates the door often makes the door more difficult to operate manually, so if I'm struggling to carry a bunch of bags, I'll press the button rather than fighting with the door.

 

I'm genuinely curious why this would bother you.

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at the expense of this sounding like a good ol' Joey B rant and/or stepping on the toes of a few people here who may do this, I have to wonder why some entirely strong and capable people push the button so the door opens for them instead of doing the old-fashioned thing and opening the door yourself....if the excuse is you don't want germs, well, you're touching that button!.....is there any other possibility other than pure laziness?

 

http://www.rhodeslockandglass.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/handicap-door-openers.png

 

and please don't get me started on people who sit in their cars in a parking lot, windows rolled up, sunny and 72 out, and have their engine idling for a half-hour or more while just sitting there.....

 

sorry to be a grump today....

 

I only do that when I'm holding the lube left behind by an escort in one hand and texting with the other.

 

But seriously, I find it interesting that two posters chalked it up to laziness. If you are carrying a large package would you rather put the package down, open the door, struggle to hold the door while picking the package back up, and try to keep the door open while walking through it or use the little button? I don't consider that to be laziness. Likewise, if you are having a carpal tunnel flareup and are having difficulty grasping a door handle, the push button could mean the difference between excruciating pain and walking through the door with ease. Just because someone appears to be able-bodied does not mean they are able-bodied. I mean, it isn't like they used the pictures to look up produce items while standing at the self-checkout. That is just over the top RUDE! :)

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When I'm alone and not carrying anything, I rarely use the button. However, I have used it multiple times per week for the last several years when carrying boxes or notebooks into the courthouse or pushing a stroller through the door into a store that doesn't have other automatic doors.

 

Out of curiosity, when going to a store that has an automatic door and a manual door side by side, do you always use the manual doors to enter/exit or do you take the lazy man's route of stepping into the path of the sensor that opens the automatic door? I assume people push the button for the same reasons they step in front of the sensor rather than use the manual doors (which I sometimes use, especially on the way into Target) and that the reason may vary from person to person and circumstance to circumstance.

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yeah, Uni and corndog, I certainly know I have better things to worry about, but I just hate to see laziness.....and I do understand the loaded-down-with-packages argument.....

 

funny, rvwnsd, about the lube....

 

BVB, I will snap out of it soon.....just need to start uttering the Serenity Prayer from now on, I guess!.....

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Just because it is designed to allow physically challenged people to enter and exit easily does not mean others should not use it. It is a convenience. But you talk about laziness, how about people who bring shopping carts to their car and then leave them there. I usually pick up a shopping cart in the parking lot, sometimes two just to return one and use the other. When i am done, I take the cart back to the store or if I am in a hurry, place it in the designated slot. People who leave carts in the parking lot, now there are some lazy people who are inconveniencing others.

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Ten years ago I might have thought or said the same thing. At this point the arthritis in my arms is severe. On my bad days, opening that door can cause a lot of pain and I bless the forethought that put that button there.

 

 

at the expense of this sounding like a good ol' Joey B rant and/or stepping on the toes of a few people here who may do this, I have to wonder why some entirely strong and capable people push the button so the door opens for them instead of doing the old-fashioned thing and opening the door yourself....if the excuse is you don't want germs, well, you're touching that button!.....is there any other possibility other than pure laziness?

 

http://www.rhodeslockandglass.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/handicap-door-openers.png

 

and please don't get me started on people who sit in their cars in a parking lot, windows rolled up, sunny and 72 out, and have their engine idling for a half-hour or more while just sitting there.....

 

sorry to be a grump today....

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yeah, Uni and corndog, I certainly know I have better things to worry about, but I just hate to see laziness.....and I do understand the loaded-down-with-packages argument.....

 

funny, rvwnsd, about the lube....

 

BVB, I will snap out of it soon.....just need to start uttering the Serenity Prayer from now on, I guess!.....[/

 

Oh dear God, not the 'Serenity Prayer'.....I'd rather you be grumpy. ;)

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Organic wholeness, the wholeness of life and things,

the divine beauty of the universe.

Love that, not man apart from that,

or else you will share man’s pitiful confusions,

or drown in despair when his days darken."

 

- Robinson Jeffers

 

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But you talk about laziness, how about people who bring shopping carts to their car and then leave them there. I usually pick up a shopping cart in the parking lot, sometimes two just to return one and use the other. When i am done, I take the cart back to the store or if I am in a hurry, place it in the designated slot. People who leave carts in the parking lot, now there are some lazy people who are inconveniencing others.

I don't take my cart back - if I did, I might not have forgotten that I had a case of beer in the bottom of the cart, I inconvenienced the next person who came by in the Meijer's parking lot by giving them free Molson.

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The only time I use the automatic door opener (notice I did not say "handi-capped") is at my local post office. Why there? The doors are heavy, heavy oak and difficult to open by anyone, let alone those, like me, who have problems with my rotator cuff. Is it laziness? No--but if you just looked at me, you would not say I am handi-capped.

Shopping carts: One of my biggest pet peeves---those who leave them next to the car where they were parked or in front of their parking place---especially when the slot to place carts is ten or twenty steps away. Why does it bother me? I have had two almost new cars, scrathed and dented by the G-- D--- laziness of others. And please don't tell me it is anything else---most large grocery stores have "helping hands" people who will assist you with your groceries and CART if necessary.

People sitting in idling cars? I can overlook this, It's when the car is idling and there is no one in it, that I get concerned---happens quite often here in the frigid northeast.

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Shopping carts: One of my biggest pet peeves---those who leave them next to the car where they were parked or in front of their parking place---especially when the slot to place carts is ten or twenty steps away. Why does it bother me? I have had two almost new cars, scrathed and dented by the G-- D--- laziness of others.

 

From Wikipedia: In many places in the United States, customers are allowed to leave the carts in the parking lot, and store personnel will return the carts to the storage area. In many European and Canadian premises, however, coin- (or token-)operated locking mechanisms are provided to encourage shoppers to return the carts to the correct location after use.

 

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>> In many places in the United States, customers are allowed to leave the carts in the parking lot...<<

 

You'll never convince me the average US citizen 'knows' this. They are just doing it out of sheer LAZINESS, whether it is 'allowed' or not. It is the very definition of Laziness!! And a prime example of the self centered society that has been crafted around this laziness. Shopping cart? Just leave it here right in the middle of the last open parking space - someone else will put it away for me.

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>> In many places in the United States, customers are allowed to leave the carts in the parking lot...<<

 

You'll never convince me the average US citizen 'knows' this. They are just doing it out of sheer LAZINESS, whether it is 'allowed' or not. It is the very definition of Laziness!! And a prime example of the self centered society that has been crafted around this laziness. Shopping cart? Just leave it here right in the middle of the last open parking space - someone else will put it away for me.

 

Exactly...pure laziness and a complete disregard for others. I've been walking to my car and have seen the person parked next to me finish unloading the shopping cart and then just roll the shopping cart behind my car, like I'm not going anywhere? It's tough getting through a day and dealing with all the discourteous people in the world, without going ballistic on some of them......

 

Ok see, now I'm a little grumpy. Aaahh time for morning coffee.

the greatest beauty is

Organic wholeness, the wholeness of life and things,

the divine beauty of the universe.

Love that, not man apart from that,

or else you will share man’s pitiful confusions,

or drown in despair when his days darken."

 

- Robinson Jeffers

 

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But you talk about laziness, how about people who bring shopping carts to their car and then leave them there. I usually pick up a shopping cart in the parking lot, sometimes two just to return one and use the other. When i am done, I take the cart back to the store or if I am in a hurry, place it in the designated slot. People who leave carts in the parking lot, now there are some lazy people who are inconveniencing others.

 

That's one of my pet peeves as well.

 

Want to know why 'murricans are fat? Look where we leave our shopping carts. The ones that get to me the most are the ones that won't cross the lane of traffic to get to the cart return bin, leaving the cart blocking the empty parking space next to them. It's lazy, selfish, and rude to prevent someone else from using that parking space just because your lazy ass can't manage ten steps to return the cart.

 

(Note that I don't begrudge the truly handicapped from leaving their carts in the handicapped parking area. They genuinely can't return them.)

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at the expense of this sounding like a good ol' Joey B rant and/or stepping on the toes of a few people here who may do this, I have to wonder why some entirely strong and capable people push the button so the door opens for them instead of doing the old-fashioned thing and opening the door yourself....if the excuse is you don't want germs, well, you're touching that button!.....is there any other possibility other than pure laziness?

 

http://www.rhodeslockandglass.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/handicap-door-openers.png

 

and please don't get me started on people who sit in their cars in a parking lot, windows rolled up, sunny and 72 out, and have their engine idling for a half-hour or more while just sitting there.....

 

sorry to be a grump today....

 

Although the wheelchair logo is on the button, it doesn't mean that it is there only for those in wheelchairs, any more than a wheelchair accessible toilet stall is restricted to those in wheelchairs. Anyone who has difficulty with the doors--physical weakness, hands full, carrying or leading a child, etc.--should be able to use the door opener. I, of course, always push the doors open, to demonstrate my manly strength.

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Both, in large quantities

And it seems to only be getting worse. People are only concerned about themselves. Common courtesy has gone completely out the window. And it's not just youth. People of the age that should know better are concerned just about themselves. It makes me crazy!

 

Now, where did I leave my bottle of "expensive" lube?

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