Daddy / Moderators: Please guide us on this question

[Decatur Guy]

I arrange for an escort to fly in. I buy a ticket in his name. He doesn't show up. I can't reach him.

 

Question: Under your rules, am I allowed to start a post and mention his name and what happened?

[Epigonos]

Though NOT a moderator I believe I can answer your question. I believe you are definitely allowed to start a thread on this forum, however, you are not allowed to write a review as you never met with the escort.

[robberbaron4u]

Keep in mind, that, from the escort's viewpoint, it is all YOUR fault. . .

[maninsoma]

I can understand not being able to write a review when one isn't out of pocket because the escort never showed up, but when one advances payment or pays for airfare it seems like it would be reasonable to allow a no-show review to be posted. I'm pretty sure I've seen no show reviews here in the past, but I don't know the current forum rules about this.

[+ deej]

I arrange for an escort to fly in. I buy a ticket in his name. He doesn't show up. I can't reach him.

 

Question: Under your rules, am I allowed to start a post and mention his name and what happened?

 

This question will be best answered with private email to daddy@daddysreviews.com.

[Decatur Guy]

This question will be best answered with private email to daddy@daddysreviews.com.

 

Thank you, deej, for e-mail, and I will send a private message to Daddy about this as you've asked me to.

 

I must say this, however. I'm not sure how my private understanding of the situation benefits the entire board. We clearly -- as a group -- do not understand the parameters of what's allowed here regarding how much information we can relay about no-show situations. If we did, I wouldn't have to ask the question, nor would I be getting such a wide range of answers. There's clearly broad and general confusion regarding this. A private e-mail will clear it up for me, but it won't for anyone else.

 

I want to be a "good citizen" of this board. Daddy and the moderators very generously work hard to provide a good experience here. I've never been "timed out" for boorish behavior, and I never want to be one of the deliberately disrupting influences. I certainly hope I never come across that way. But in this situation, you could be deemed a "bad citizen" of the board entirely by accident and misunderstanding. It's been a bit frustrating trying to pin this information down. I'm not quite sure why it's been so difficult to get a straightforward answer to this that we can all understand and abide by.

[tyro]

Well said, DG!

T

[Decatur Guy]

Just in case anyone is wondering, I have not been stood up by an escort for whom I bought a ticket. That's because I've never flown anyone in before.

 

The most I've ever done vis a vis fly-ins is agree to a multihour session with an escort, who bought his own ticket to my city. In that case, the risk was all his because he had to take a leap of faith that I wouldn't bail on him after he flew here. (I didn't bail and we had a grand time. But again, I knew I wouldn't do that to him -- but he had to take it on faith.).

 

But I'm considering a true fly-in, buy-the-ticket situation for 2014, hence my new interest in this topic in the past month. What's holding me back is I have real dread of being stood up after doling out all that money, and all these posts over months and years saying "a well reviewed and popular" escort stood me up but I can't say who that person is ... well, it isn't helping me in that regard. As I said in another post, everyone is a suspect when you have no names.

[rvwnsd]

...I must say this, however. I'm not sure how my private understanding of the situation benefits the entire board. We clearly -- as a group -- do not understand the parameters of what's allowed here regarding how much information we can relay about no-show situations. If we did, I wouldn't have to ask the question, nor would I be getting such a wide range of answers. There's clearly broad and general confusion regarding this. A private e-mail will clear it up for me, but it won't for anyone else....

 

Daddy, like owners/moderators of other discussion boards, often makes exceptions on a case-by-case basis. By private messaging him, you will know whether he will make an exception in this case. When others wish to write about an experience and that writing has potential for running afoul of the rules, others may send a private message to Daddy and request an exception in those cases. That's how the board works. Besides, in a week and a half this thread will be buried and will no longer be of any benefit to anyone but those who have the time and inclination to search for it.

 

PS: If Daddy advises you that it is permissible to write about your no-show experience, you can state in the post "Before I posted this I emailed Daddy..." Doing so would benefit others who are in a situation similar to yours.

[Decatur Guy]

Daddy, like owners/moderators of other discussion boards, often makes exceptions on a case-by-case basis. By private messaging him, you will know whether he will make an exception in this case. When others wish to write about an experience and that writing has potential for running afoul of the rules, others may send a private message to Daddy and request an exception in those cases. That's how the board works. Besides, in a week and a half this thread will be buried and will no longer be of any benefit to anyone but those who have the time and inclination to search for it.

 

PS: If Daddy advises you that it is permissible to write about your no-show experience, you can state in the post "Before I posted this I emailed Daddy..." Doing so would benefit others who are in a situation similar to yours.

 

That makes good sense to me. I really don't care what the system is. I just think anyone participating here ought to understand the ground rules. I clearly do not, and I'm clearly not alone in that.

 

You seem to think I could NOT just simply post about that. I would need to run it through Daddy first. Fair enough, but that's not what others are advising. Your understanding of situation may indeed be the correct one, but it's not a universal one. I'm aiming for universal understanding and clarity here.

 

If the ground rules are "case by case basis," then that's fine. I would get that. There's a certain logic to that -- people who have participated in good faith here for awhile could be trusted not to run a vendetta and make something up vs. a newcomer or someone who has shown to carry unfair grudges.

[+ poolboy48220]

I was going to suggest emailing Daddy and asking him if you could share his answer on the boards, but what rvwnsd said makes sense - no statement of a policy because there is no hard and fast policy, at least with regard to the forum - it's decided on a case by case basis?

[Kevin Slater]

I arrange for an escort to fly in. I buy a ticket in his name. He doesn't show up. I can't reach him.

 

Question: Under your rules, am I allowed to start a post and mention his name and what happened?

 

Just in case anyone is wondering, I have not been stood up by an escort for whom I bought a ticket. That's because I've never flown anyone in before.

 

I'm a little concerned that you're going into this expecting failure.

 

Kevin Slater

[Decatur Guy]

I was going to suggest emailing Daddy and asking him if you could share his answer on the boards, but what rvwnsd said makes sense - no statement of a policy because there is no hard and fast policy, at least with regard to the forum - it's decided on a case by case basis?

 

Well, that just puts us collectively back in the same muddle we're in now even if I get my own private answer.

[Decatur Guy]

I'm a little concerned that you're going into this expecting failure.

 

Kevin Slater

 

I've had mostly great hiring experiences. I've never had a no-show. I've had two last-minute cancellations, and both in my home city. Those didn't cost me money, just time and disappointment. Not much of a price to pay. And then I've had a few day-before or half-day before cancellations, but that is not something would ever even consider discussing on here. I think that shows integrity on the part of the escort, as I realize life happens. In those cases, I was simply grateful I had enough notice to make different plans.

 

I've never even had a truly negative hiring situation, and I've had at least 25 by now. The worst has just been lukewarm, not-worth-the-full-price experiences. So I think I have a good history, put good vibes out there, and don't see any reason that will change. This board has been a GREAT resource in the making of a good track record so far.

 

All that said, the prospect of spending hundreds of dollars on a ticket and having no recourse if the guy bails on me gives me pause, as everyone can now tell. I'm not even sure I'd have the ability to warn others -- and that would drive me nuts. I've read enough posts over the years on here to know airport no-shows do indeed happen, and for whatever reason, it's been very hard to pin names to incidents.

[rvwnsd]

That makes good sense to me. I really don't care what the system is. I just think anyone participating here ought to understand the ground rules. I clearly do not, and I'm clearly not alone in that.

 

You seem to think I could NOT just simply post about that. I would need to run it through Daddy first. Fair enough, but that's not what others are advising. Your understanding of situation may indeed be the correct one, but it's not a universal one. I'm aiming for universal understanding and clarity here. ...

 

My understanding of the situation is based on reading the FAQs posted on the review site. Here's the link:

 

http://www.daddysreviews.com/faq

 

When you click on the link, your browser will display a page titled "FAQs - General Information." On the left side of the page is a series of ten buttons, one of which is labeled "Submitting Reviews." It is the fifth one from the top. Clicking that button displays the following page:

 

http://www.daddysreviews.com/faq/submit

 

The seventh and eighth topics are titled "Do You Take 'No Show' Reviews?" and "What If I Pre-Paid for a 'No Show'?" Here is the text of "What If I Pre-Paid for a 'No Show'?":

 

"In general, you should never prepay for services. If you come across a site that asks for a prepayment via Western Union or Money order, it is highly probable that it's a Scam.

Do not submit a review because there will be a delay before I see it. Send email directly to daddy@daddysreviews.com and include the details as this is not the norm for the industry."

 

I admit that I had to do some thinking in order to realize that "What If I Pre-Paid for a 'No-Show'?" is similar to "What If I Paid For Airline Tickets and the Guy Was a 'No-Show'?." Likewise, I had to do some thinking in order to realize that sending an email to daddy@daddysreview.com is similar to PM-ing Daddy from within the forum. Nonetheless, the ground rules are out there for everyone to see. All you have to do is look.

[+ sam.fitzpatrick]

But I'm considering a true fly-in, buy-the-ticket situation for 2014, hence my new interest in this topic in the past month. What's holding me back is I have real dread of being stood up after doling out all that money, and all these posts over months and years saying "a well reviewed and popular" escort stood me up but I can't say who that person is ... well, it isn't helping me in that regard. As I said in another post, everyone is a suspect when you have no names.

 

DG - I understand your dread. I have only flown in one escort and that was after (a) reading reviews that he had traveled frequently and (b) having previously met him while traveling to his home base. I'm not sure I would pay airfare for someone I have not previously met, regardless of the quantity or quality of reviews.

[Decatur Guy]

My understanding of the situation is based on reading the FAQs posted on the review site. Here's the link:

 

http://www.daddysreviews.com/faq

 

When you click on the link, your browser will display a page titled "FAQs - General Information." On the left side of the page is a series of ten buttons, one of which is labeled "Submitting Reviews." It is the fifth one from the top. Clicking that button displays the following page:

 

http://www.daddysreviews.com/faq/submit

 

The seventh and eighth topics are titled "Do You Take 'No Show' Reviews?" and "What If I Pre-Paid for a 'No Show'?" Here is the text of "What If I Pre-Paid for a 'No Show'?":

 

"In general, you should never prepay for services. If you come across a site that asks for a prepayment via Western Union or Money order, it is highly probable that it's a Scam.

Do not submit a review because there will be a delay before I see it. Send email directly to daddy@daddysreviews.com and include the details as this is not the norm for the industry."

 

I admit that I had to do some thinking in order to realize that "What If I Pre-Paid for a 'No-Show'?" is similar to "What If I Paid For Airline Tickets and the Guy Was a 'No-Show'?." Likewise, I had to do some thinking in order to realize that sending an email to daddy@daddysreview.com is similar to PM-ing Daddy from within the forum. Nonetheless, the ground rules are out there for everyone to see. All you have to do is look.

 

Thank you for that information and tracking that down. It's very appreciated. It does seem that Daddy warns us away from prepaying an escort's ticket. But my understanding is that's the norm. Although he might just mean prepaying for the session itself.

[+ deej]

Just in case anyone is wondering, I have not been stood up by an escort for whom I bought a ticket. That's because I've never flown anyone in before.

 

So the entire thread is a "what if"?

 

What if you write to daddy@daddysreiews.com?

 

There cannot and will not ever be a one size fits all answer. PART of the reason is that on every (!) day of the year Daddy is juggling active vendettas from one or more clients against one or more escorts. If he sets a rule in stone on this, it WILL be exploited in one or more of those active vendettas.

 

This situation that hasn't happened yet is one where you should seek Daddy's guidance in private should it ever actually happen (God forbid!). Until then: don't worry, be happy.

[EZEtoGRU]

Thank you for that information and tracking that down. It's very appreciated. It does seem that Daddy warns us away from prepaying an escort's ticket. But my understanding is that's the norm. Although he might just mean prepaying for the session itself.

 

Personally, I would never pre-pay for an escort and his flights if I did not already know him and have experience with him (ie.....know that he is trustworthy). Following this guideline, I have never had a problem.

[Decatur Guy]

Personally, I would never pre-pay for an escort and his flights if I did not already know him and have experience with him (ie.....know that he is trustworthy). Following this guideline, I have never had a problem.

 

I wouldn't prepay for the actual session. But my understanding is prepayment for the flight is rather standard and then the payment for the session comes at the end.

[Decatur Guy]

So the entire thread is a "what if"?

 

What if you write to daddy@daddysreiews.com?

 

There cannot and will not ever be a one size fits all answer. PART of the reason is that on every (!) day of the year Daddy is juggling active vendettas from one or more clients against one or more escorts. If he sets a rule in stone on this, it WILL be exploited in one or more of those active vendettas.

 

This situation that hasn't happened yet is one where you should seek Daddy's guidance in private should it ever actually happen (God forbid!). Until then: don't worry, be happy.

 

Thank you. Actually, just simply telling me what you said above -- that there is no set policy and it's indeed a case-by-case situation -- clarifies a lot. That's the kind of explanation I was looking for all those posts and questions ago. (And I don't think I'm the only one who didn't realize that as witnessed by the variety of responses).

 

Here's the bottom line feedback from me, and I shall cease writing about this lest I become a true pest about this:

 

The review system we have now is very good resource and gives me a valuable insights into whether a session will go well. I have found numerous escorts that way I might not have hired and got steered away from a few I might would have hired. So for me, that's working very well. It's not been foolproof, but nothing is.

 

As for the fly-in thing and how information on that is and will be disseminated on here, it simply isn't and will not be helpful. Pretty much, there's no way to know if a particular escort has a history of no-showing on flights or not. We are simply out on our own on that and will have to make individual choices and go on gut instinct and how much risk we wish to take. Daddy's Reviews simply isn't going to be informative to the user on that score because clients simply aren't availing themselves of the process to give out the information.

 

I think it's a weakness, and yet I do understand the concerns and explanations you gave. Those are indeed valid concerns. I've seen the vendettas at work here, so I truly get the caution. Thank you for your time on this.

[+ deej]

Here's the bottom line feedback from me, and I shall cease writing about this lest I become a true pest about this:

 

Good. ( I hope you know I'm kidding. It's a valuable discussion.)

 

As for the fly-in thing and how information on that is and will be disseminated on here, it simply isn't and will not be helpful. Pretty much, there's no way to know if a particular escort has a history of no-showing on flights or not.

 

Yep. Daddy won't open the door for unsubstantiated reviews of encounters that did not happen. Sorry. That dawg won't hunt.

 

But here's where the magic happens. If an escort has a habit of this sort of behavior, other problems start showing up in the actual reviews. Formerly glowing remarks gain a little, um, rust. It shows up, if you'll listen. If you're the sort that won't listen, well, we could put it in all bold and all caps and you still wouldn't see it.

 

I think it's a weakness

 

Understood, and you're not the first in the history of this site to have this concern. We've had it too. There simply can't (and won't) be a single answer for every situation.

[Michael Wayne]

perhaps we are missing one thing here that is so obvious: why in the ATL (americas 4th largest city so they say) are there so few TOP quality male escorts to the point that a nice and friendly client such as Decatur would even have to consider flying someone in. When I worked in ATL on tours I found that business was so good there that it actually wore me out after 3 days. It utterly amazes me that more top of the line pros do not move there and capitalize on that vast market of unfulfilled clients. Atl claims to be the NEW York of the south but when it come to quality escorts she is more like new london, conn. This has always been a mystery to me.

[Epigonos]

I really don't understand the confusion. It is really quite simple. If you haven't met with the escort, FACE TO FACE, Daddy won't allow a review. That is true even if the escort ripped you off for airfare. Now if you want to give other board participants a heads-up regarding the guy behavior, as well you should, POST IT HERE. If you do choose to post a notification here you might want to be prepared for something of a cat fight with some of the escort's defenders. I sincerely believe it is that simple.

[MiamiLooker]

I believe the way it works is that a post is made concerning a no-show by an escort. If it’s a “popular” escort, then all the flying monkeys swoop down to attack the poster as being a hater and/or a detractor. Some will even post how they know the escort, and he’s never no-showed on them, as if this has any bearing on the OP’s experience. Before it gets too bloody, someone orders pizza, and the thread gets closed.