MORE studios goign Bareback!! Help!!

[shadowcatzxxx]

I really don't get this, and it both annoys and upsets me.

 

Just in the last couple of months, two more studios (that I've noticed) have started doing bareback scenes -- although, to be fair, they haven't gone ALL bareback like some others.

 

Next Door Buddies is now incorporating BB scenes as is Lucas Entertainment.

 

Damn!

 

The only places left that update regularly and to I feel comfortable subscribing (and which have videos and studs I like) are cockyboys and randyblue. MenAtPlay is also commendable, both for the caliber of their men and their upfront support of AIDS treatment and prevention.

 

I strongly suggest that other forum members vote with their $$ and support.

 

Again, my intent is NOT to diss HIV+ people (some of my best friends, etc ...), but to indicate to porn companies that portraying seriously unsafe sex as "hot" is NOT OK.

 

Grumble, grumble.

[Daverwr]

All of Chi Chi LaRue's companies are exclusively pro-safer sex, I believe. But, yes, you turn around and another company is doing BB.

[JoeyBryant]

Pretty soon, the condom industry is going to need a bailout...

[BallerBoy]

I prefer watching the bareback sex scenes. If porn is "fantasy" then why should it be limited to condom=only sex? Porn should be about the things we'd never get to do in real life. Porn is suppose to assume all the risk while we safely enjoy it from the comfort and privacy of our homes.

[+ dupontversDC]

Stop with these dramatic, "OH MY" threads

 

Condom porn is boring, the market has spoken, bb porn is where the money is, get over it.

[+ dupontversDC]

I really don't get this, and it both annoys and upsets me.

 

Just in the last couple of months, two more studios (that I've noticed) have started doing bareback scenes -- although, to be fair, they haven't gone ALL bareback like some others.

 

Next Door Buddies is now incorporating BB scenes as is Lucas Entertainment.

 

Damn!

 

The only places left that update regularly and to I feel comfortable subscribing (and which have videos and studs I like) are cockyboys and randyblue. MenAtPlay is also commendable, both for the caliber of their men and their upfront support of AIDS treatment and prevention.

 

I strongly suggest that other forum members vote with their $$ and support.

 

Again, my intent is NOT to diss HIV+ people (some of my best friends, etc ...), but to indicate to porn companies that portraying seriously unsafe sex as "hot" is NOT OK.

 

Grumble, grumble.

 

Help with what? Opposing what the vast majority of people want?

[Lohengrin1979]

I prefer watching the bareback sex scenes. If porn is "fantasy" then why should it be limited to condom=only sex? Porn should be about the things we'd never get to do in real life. Porn is suppose to assume all the risk while we safely enjoy it from the comfort and privacy of our homes.

 

I sincerely hope you're being facetious. I'm not about to put my money into anything that involves perpetuating or glorifying a behavior that leads to high risk of HIV transmissions. The amount of mystique and occult awe laid at the feet of bareback sex is appalling. The difference between bareback and safe sex is slight and those who claim otherwise need to get a clue. Whenever I happen on bareback porn, all I can think of is the risk those two individuals, gay or straight, or putting themselves in for money. Not hot at all.

[+ Axiom2001]

Stop with these dramatic, "OH MY" threads

 

Condom porn is boring, the market has spoken, bb porn is where the money is, get over it.

 

 

So the making of $$$$$$s is far more important than a 'healthy community?" Risky behavior to earn money far exceeds one's health? This is extremely baffling to me. I am going to cancel my membership at the one site where I have a membership. I will NOT buy any porn dvds that feature barebacking, for I do not bareback when I am sexually involved!

 

I am a proponent of 'SAFER SEXUAL' practices, have been since the 1980s. I am also an individual who gives and has given outreach and education regarding HIV/AIDS and other sexually transmitted diseases.

 

BOYCOTT studios that produce 'BAREBACKING" dvds/vids.

[shadowcatzxxx]

Thanks you, thank you, thank you, Lohen, Killian, Ax ...

 

I was beginning to wonder about whether to quit this board because of a couple of the previous responses. There is always room for differences of opinion, but to flatly dismiss concerns about porn studios PROMOTING BB as sexy, and hot seems to me to be the height of irrresponsibility. The NDB vid that made me cancel my subscription involved a scene in which two supposedly gay doctors both not only BB'd but also "creampied" (I believe that is the term) a patient. Not that any viewer with any brains would believe that the "actors" were really doctors, the whole idea nauseates me. But we all know that there are a lot of horny guys out there who often think with their little head, ather than their big one.

 

I may be getting to be just an old curmudgeon, but I have also lost far too many friends, and have too many friends who burned out caring for people with HIV/AIDS (before the new generation of meds) to treat lightly ANY factors that could prolong or increase the transmission of this disease.

 

Thanks guys, for reminding me that many people who post here are sensible and responsible!

[maninsoma]

I would suggest that anyone who believes that porn has the responsibility to only promote sex while using condoms should also avoid going to see any mainstream movies that glorify risky behavior. In other words, I hope you're all also avoiding most mainstream Hollywood films that glorify violence and that, for the most part, result in the heroes escaping unharmed while only "the bad guys" die.

[AdamSmith]

I would suggest that anyone who believes that porn has the responsibility to only promote sex while using condoms should also avoid going to see any mainstream movies that glorify risky behavior. In other words, I hope you're all also avoiding most mainstream Hollywood films that glorify violence and that, for the most part, result in the heroes escaping unharmed while only "the bad guys" die.

 

Does it need pointing out that action filmmakers take some trouble to avoid actually killing or maiming their actors, whereas bareback porn performers are in fact barebacking?

 

A more apt comparison might be snuff films.

[JT Brooklyn]

Stop with these dramatic, "OH MY" threads

 

Condom porn is boring, the market has spoken, bb porn is where the money is, get over it.

 

1. Sadly 2. Cash is King!

[Daverwr]

I prefer watching the bareback sex scenes. If porn is "fantasy" then why should it be limited to condom=only sex? Porn should be about the things we'd never get to do in real life. Porn is suppose to assume all the risk while we safely enjoy it from the comfort and privacy of our homes.

 

I have to agree that porn is fantasy. I've ordered countless pizzas in my day and never once have I paid by sex. I think studios can take the utmost precautions ensuring their models are negative. If they do, I see no problem in a BB scene. Again, it is fantasy. Do I BB in my own life, no. That's reality.

 

I also agree that mainstream Hollywood shows risky behavior. I not going to leave a movie when an actor lights a cigarette. I know that is risky behavior and I know not to do it in my own life. But, movies/entertainment are fantasy.

 

Now excuse me while I step down from my soapbox and check out the next thread...

[McLeanspider]

I would suggest that anyone who believes that porn has the responsibility to only promote sex while using condoms should also avoid going to see any mainstream movies that glorify risky behavior. In other words, I hope you're all also avoiding most mainstream Hollywood films that glorify violence and that, for the most part, result in the heroes escaping unharmed while only "the bad guys" die.

 

I agree with "AdamSmith" Count de Crisco.

 

An actor getting shot on a movie is fiction, someone getting infected with HIV because barebacking while filming a movie is real and now with Obamacare we're all going to pay for his treatment.

 

Let's support http://www.randyblue.com

[Phil_musc]

I have to agree that porn is fantasy. I've ordered countless pizzas in my day and never once have I paid by sex.

 

Well you know, sometimes you just have to take a risk

 

Allow me the fantasy of creating a scenario for your reading pleasure and imagination:

 

Doorbell rings. Sir answers.

Delivery person (hereinafter Dp - note does NOT mean double penetration): Dominator pizza here, mister.

Sir customer (Sc hereinafter): How much, Stud?

Dp: Fifteen bucks, man.

Sc: I only have a 20.

Dp: Sorry, no change, man.

Sc: Why you little chiseling' weasel, I don't know whether to whip out my gun and shoot you or whip out the piece between my legs and teach you a lesson.

Dp: Oh please, Sir, I have other pizzas in the car, I have to make several other deliveries and customers expect them to be hot when I get there. Just whip out your piece, teach me my lesson, get it over with and I'll be on my way. You look like Quick Draw McGraw to me and I'm sure you'll be a fast shooter.

Sc: Since the Mega-mega-magnum condom factory went bust from loss of business through the proliferation of bareback sex both in the movies and in real life, I haven't been able to buy any condoms. You'll just have to take it raw, boy.

Dp: Well okay - I know you're negative, right? But no Creampies - I don't want any stains the seat of my delivery uniform pants and I left my 2exist briefs with the high absorbency with the last customer when I couldn't give him change either. What I really wanna know is whatever happened to the broke customers who ordered pizzas and never had cash on hand to pay. Why is it always that I never have the right change? Engaging in bareback sex seems a small price to pay for not carrying a weapon to shoot any unscrupulous customers or roving mountain lions that may be in the neighborhood. I've already put out for several bears this evening. (Sigh) All in a day's work, I guess.

[nycguy]

I agree with "AdamSmith" Count de Crisco.

 

someone getting infected with HIV because barebacking while filming a movie is real and now with Obamacare we're all going to pay for his treatment.

 

Let's support http://www.randyblue.com

 

Oh good Lord. It is virtually 100% certain that an HIV- actor did not become poz because he was in a bareback movie but that he was in the bareback movie because he was already poz. He wasn't a poor little innocent being manipulated into unsafe sex by an unscrupulous, preying, evil studio offering "candy to the little boy."

 

Nice touch in adding that because of Obamacare, "we're all going to pay for his treatment." Before Obamacare, we all paid for the uninsured who were treated for any medical condition.

 

The risk of barebacking is a legitimate and necessary discussion. Being holier than thou only serves to distract from that discussion. I do not either advocate or condemn barebacking. What I do condemn is the hypocrisy of many who take their loads the way they need and crave - big gushing, spurting loads in their mouths - and failing to recognize the innate needs of others. If HIV was contracted orally only, most of the oral only types would still be slurping and swallowing.

 

"My cum taking is safe and responsible and shame on you irresponsible fools for the way you need to take it - and Obamacare is giving you a license to be irresponsible."

[+ dupontversDC]

I like TIM porn, its hotter to watch. And I'm willing to wager, very few, if any, actors have been infected on set.

 

And all the "safe only" well-reviewed guys on here, well, don't be naive.

[+ friendofsheila]

Does it need pointing out that action filmmakers take some trouble to avoid actually killing or maiming their actors, whereas bareback porn performers are in fact barebacking?

 

A more apt comparison might be snuff films.

 

Well put, sir.

[Nvr2Thick]

I really don't get this, and it both annoys and upsets me.

 

Just in the last couple of months, two more studios (that I've noticed) have started doing bareback scenes -- although, to be fair, they haven't gone ALL bareback like some others.

 

Next Door Buddies is now incorporating BB scenes as is Lucas Entertainment.

 

Damn!

 

The only places left that update regularly and to I feel comfortable subscribing (and which have videos and studs I like) are cockyboys and randyblue. MenAtPlay is also commendable, both for the caliber of their men and their upfront support of AIDS treatment and prevention.

 

I strongly suggest that other forum members vote with their $$ and support.

 

Again, my intent is NOT to diss HIV+ people (some of my best friends, etc ...), but to indicate to porn companies that portraying seriously unsafe sex as "hot" is NOT OK.

 

Grumble, grumble.

 

Why are we so concerned about bareback porn when bareback sex is prevalent in day to day life? Just log onto A4A, Grindr, Manhunt, or check out the Craigslist personals. I don't think it's because porn sets an example or a standard. I think it's because porn stars are sex personalities and sex celebrities. It's the same mindset as the chatter over Paul Walker's death. Celebrity car crashes are worthy of protracted discussion. Porn star sex is the vast minority of bareback sex, but the people are interesting so it's perceived as a topic of consequence.

[Steven_Draker]

The Question Of Bareback Porn

by George Forgan-Smith

August 10th, 2012

 

When it comes to the world of porn, in particular bareback porn it’s been a very interesting few weeks.

 

Just this week GMFA have release the findings of their porn study with the following results:

 

• 87% of gay men report watching porn at least once a week (1 in 4 watching porn every day)
  
• the most popular act watched was anal sex (91%)
  
• 69% reported actively choosing bareback porn with 96% having ever watched bareback porn.
  

 

Of course this brings forward the question if gay men are being exposed to regular bareback sex, in particular anal sex that is considered the highest risk sexual act for transmission of HIV, is there likely to be a wash over effect to actual behaviour? Does watching bareback porn promote actual bareback sex?

 

Interestingly 7% of survey takers said that yes, watching bareback porn lead to them having unsafe anal sex, with almost all (96.8%) saying that this would not stop them watching bareback porn.

 

By far the most interesting question I found was “do you think watching bareback porn can lead others to having unprotected sex?”. More then 50% of the people taking the survey said yes, watching bareback porn was likely to make other people have unsafe sex. Is this a case of “well clearly I can tell the difference between fantasy and reality, but I can’t speak for others…”?

Bareback porn has been a controversial topic for many years now. Recently legislation was passed in Los Angles forbidding the production of bareback porn.

 

What we can say is that clearly there is money to be made in the production of bareback porn. When production houses like Sean Cody who used to be staunchly “safe sex only” start producing bareback the question has to be asked why? High demand from the already subscribed members? A decline in members with the current porn dollar being spread ever thin by sites like x-tube?

 

On one side of the argument is production houses like Treasure Island Media who’s director Paul Morris has stated:

 

…all acts of queer sex should be represented on screen with equal honesty. The entire spectrum of behavior from innocent to depraved, from life-affirming to death-enhancing should be available for the viewers.

 

On the other side are porn producers like Chi Chi LaRue who released the following PSA

 

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In his post “Homo Bareback Porn = Child Porn” Dan Savage goes further to say:

 

Child pornography cannot be produced without children being raped. That’s the reason why penalties for consuming child porn—even “vintage” child porn—are so severe. Someone that consumes child porn is creating more demand for child porn which leads to more child porn being produced which means more children are being raped.

 

Consumers of bareback porn—that is, porn produced for gay men that not only features unprotected anal sex but fetishizes unprotected sex—creates a similar destructive loop. Someone that consumes bareback porn is creating more demand for bareback porn which leads to more bareback porn being produced.

 

And you can’t create bareback porn without putting porn actors at risk of HIV infection. Consumers of bareback porn argue that these actors are adults, and they’re aware of the risks they’re running, and so consumers of bareback porn are not quite as culpable as consumers of kiddie porn. And they’re right. But many of the actors in bareback porn are very young, very naive, and very vulnerable, and the demand for bareback porn is doing real harm to real people.

 

You know the topic is controversial when online new outlets like Huffington Post release articles questioning movies like “Dawson’s 20 Load Weekend” as “the most important gay porn film ever made?”

 

I think the importance of this film is debatable. The act however, is it liberating, a right, an act of defiance as reported by gay anthropologist Eric Rofes? Or is bareback porn an act of exploitation of vulnerable actors in a fickle market throwing demands where increasing competition means anal sex without condoms is the only way to make money…

 

Are models being put at risk for the sake of public demand?

 

Are the public being placed at risk with depictions of raw sex separate from safety measures that may be in place to reduce risk of HIV infection?

 

Is porn purely about the depiction of sex or can it have a role in education?

 

source and comments at: http://thehealthybear.com/bareback-porn/

[Jaker27]

“Homo Bareback Porn = Child Porn”

 

I love Dan Savage but I wouldn't go that far. Children obviously can't consent whereas were talking about consenting adults here. Comparing the two as being equal is pretty absurd IMO.