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FreshFluff Grand Master

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Hey, what's wrong with Betty Ford!? :)

 

i'm surprised that no one drooled over Tom Ford. Normally, a guy shown putting on makeup would turn me off, but his masculinity is so overwhelming.

 

BTW, I'm not a huge makeup wearer myself. I go without makeup most of the time. I do my best to take care of my skin and wear stuff that covers it (like base or bronzer) only on special occasions.

 

 

I'm totally with you there, but there is also something to be said for confidence building by making yourself look your own personal best. I'm a sweats an t-shirt kind of guy. Wouldn't get a haircut, and care little about my clothes,. Though no amount of makeup is going to make me tom ford (or even Gerald ford), there is a personal best.

When I get a nice haircut, well tanned, immpecciblely dressed and groomed, clean, smell good and even makeup maybe... I might not be beautiful, but it has a real effect on my confidence... Which as you say, is beautiful :).

 

I am what I am, but there's a range of who I am :)

 

This is exactly what I meant. LOL about " no amount of makeup is going to make me tom ford (or even Gerald ford)." I'm guessing that you're better looking than you think, Calvin.

 

Bosguy, I hadn't noticed you WERE talking about a facial bronzer. Oh well, at least you got rid of his speedo tan line!

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Actually he said a date with an escort.

 

And WilliamM -- I don't doubt you for a single minute. We can be one of the most vain lots ever created. And it drives me a bit bonkers. Maybe it's because the ten best plastic surgeons in the country working together couldn't do a damned thing to help me even look a little better, so a little cosmetics sure wouldn't. But I've finally figured out that confidence in what you have really is the sexiest thing in the world and covers up a hell of a lot more than any cosmetics ever could. And in sort of mashing together another thread, at my age, I'm getting hit on by the type of guys on A4A, Grindr and the like (guys in their 20s and early 30s) that wouldn't have given me the time of day when I was their age. All while guys who are younger and far better looking than me are out fretting about their makeup.

 

The song I've sort of adopted as my anthem (like John Barrowman. Sigh) is "I Am What I Am" from La Cage. And the start of the last verse applies: "I am what I am and what I am needs no excuses". Take that confident attitude with you and you'll be light years ahead.

 

I agree completely. It was frustrating sitting there yesterday, knowing that some clients' obsession about minor changes in hair, skin, etc, were going to make very little difference in the dating/partner/marriage world. Unfortunately, obsession is exactly the right word.

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Hey, what's wrong with Betty Ford!? :)

 

i'm surprised that no one drooled over Tom Ford. Normally, a guy shown putting on makeup would turn me off, but his masculinity is so overwhelming.

 

BTW, I'm not a huge makeup wearer myself. I go without makeup most of the time. I do my best to take care of my skin and wear stuff that covers it (like base or bronzer) only on special occasions.

 

 

 

 

This is exactly what I meant. LOL about " no amount of makeup is going to make me tom ford (or even Gerald ford)." I'm guessing that you're better looking than you think!

 

Wait, that was Tom Ford? Wow. Hot. I'd hire him if he were selling something other than clothes and makeup. :D

That's my taste... A pretty face will always make me melt.

 

Huh, my hubby tells me that all the time LOL (but he would never tell me the truth, he's too nice. ). I've been hit on once in the last 20 years. That, and looking at my photos, I'm pretty sure I am not a pretty man. But really, I'm fine with that. I've got other things going for me :)

 

Yeah, to the earlier poster... Might be able to look like Betty :), though I think closer to Barbara Bush lol.

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It appears that I've strongly offended some posters in this thread. I apologize for that, and it certainly wasn't that intention.

 

I thought i was answering the OP's question, especially after he wrote "But someone getting out of the shower suddenly full of uglies would have to do something a bit more MacGyver or "Johnny-on-the-Spot" as my centenarian friends would say." I took him literally and suggested something Johnny on the Spot. But he hasn't been back, so who knows if I was right? I posted Tom Ford as eye candy, but maybe it appeared that I was implying that everyone should look like Tom Ford.

 

Also, remember that I've cautioned younger people against plastic surgery/botox in other threads.

 

Wait, that was Tom Ford? Wow. Hot. I'd hire him if he were selling something other than clothes and makeup. :D

That's my taste... A pretty face will always make me melt.

 

Yes, he stars in his own ads, sometimes in embraces with female models. He identifies as gay but once said in Details magazine, "There's one indulgence every man should try in his lifetime. If you're straight, sleep with a man at least once, and if you're gay, don't go through life without sleeping with a woman." Hey, do I get to be the one time? ;)

 

Huh, my hubby tells me that all the time LOL (but he would never tell me the truth, he's too nice. ). I've been hit on once in the last 20 years. That, and looking at my photos, I'm pretty sure I am not a pretty man. But really, I'm fine with that. I've got other things going for me :)

 

 

Some flirting is subtle, so that the other person can save face if they fail. It took a long time for me to realize that asking a lot of questions and teasing are often forms of flirting. It's a little weird when some students in my class did this!

 

And you're right. Not everyone is looking for a pretty boy like Tom Ford. Some people--even clients looking for an escort--want a certain type of look (like an intellectual look) or a personality (like a dominant type). If your partner has stayed with you for 20 years, he must have strong reasons for doing so.

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Nah, FF, you haven't offended me, not in the least. It's just the culture that offends me. Focusing on the external, the superficial, to the point of obsession instead of being the best you can be and accepting it and being confident in it. And maybe it's a generational thing. But for me, for most makeup, guys using makeup better be doing drag. And doing it well (god, there is nothing worse than bad drag. :))

 

And as far as Mr. Ford, from a friend of mine who has been with him, let me just say that compared to any 10 forum members combined, he is a slut.

 

If your partner has stayed with you for 20 years, he must have strong reasons for doing so.

 

And with this, you are dead on the money.

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I'm so lost when it comes to this thread I think I must be in another world. I'm 73 and god knows I wish I looked 23 but that just isn't going to happen no matter how much makeup I apply. As far as I'm concerned it is the responsibility of the escort to look like his photograph when he shows up at my door. After all I'm the buyer NOT to seller. It is my responsibility to let him know my age and physical condition prior to his accepting me as a client. Once he has accepted me it is them my responsibility to be freshly showered, with clean teeth, well groomed (which since my head is shaved doesn't require much work) and sweet breath. It is also my responsibility to be welcoming, pleasant and well mannered. As far as I'm concerned that's all there is to it -- I really don't understand what is the BFD regarding this matter.

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I'm so lost when it comes to this thread I think I must be in another world. I'm 73 and god knows I wish I looked 23 but that just isn't going to happen no matter how much makeup I apply. As far as I'm concerned it is the responsibility of the escort to look like his photograph when he shows up at my door. After all I'm the buyer NOT to seller. It is my responsibility to let him know my age and physical condition prior to his accepting me as a client. Once he has accepted me it is them my responsibility to be freshly showered, with clean teeth, well groomed (which since my head is shaved doesn't require much work) and sweet breath. It is also my responsibility to be welcoming, pleasant and well mannered. As far as I'm concerned that's all there is to it -- I really don't understand what is the BFD regarding this matter.

 

But you look damned good for 73 Epigonos.

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So men 52 should only be seen in burqas? If he's got the body for it, and he does, age doesn't mean a damned thing. Ageist.

 

again, twisting my words. its getting old mary

 

Ford can do what pleases him, but anyone would be getting long in the tooth to dress in a way that's befitting of a 30-something at age 52.

 

it's not whether you can or can't get away with something: It's SHOULD you. his suits are beautiful, but he makes the wholething look tacky the way he wears it

 

That's why silly gay men in their fifties and sixties wearing abercrombie make me laugh. we must all grow up at some point.

 

ageist? hardly. at my age ive just been around the block enough to know better :)

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again, twisting my words. its getting old mary

 

Ford can do what pleases him, but anyone would be getting long in the tooth to dress in a way that's befitting of a 30-something at age 52.

 

it's not whether you can or can't get away with something: It's SHOULD you. his suits are beautiful, but he makes the wholething look tacky the way he wears it

 

That's why silly gay men in their fifties and sixties wearing abercrombie make me laugh. we must all grow up at some point.

 

ageist? hardly. at my age ive just been around the block enough to know better :)

 

So let's see. We are to take your word on what is appropriate. Or the man who saved Gucci and was creative director for Yves St. Laurent.

 

Tough choice.

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I wasn't going to read this thread because at this point in my life these things are of little import (Snicker, guffaw) However, a few gratuitous - as always - comments:

 

Juan and Robberbaron hit the nail on the head - Juan's post was certainly well-written and compelling. Yet, RB brought up the 40 watt pink light bulbs of Mary Pickford. These two posts are not mutually exclusive and we would be foolish to ignore them.

 

LBT, I wish we lived in the same city - we would be friends I think - I especially appreciate your comments about the sexiness of confidence. And I think you would buoy up my confidence - which needs all the buoying it can get. Not feeling very sexy/confident today. . .

 

Epigonos, once again the voice of wisdom and common sense.

 

C'mon, guys, Tom Ford looks great - it is irrelevant if he is 22, 52, or 72. He looks great. But he also would look great without his facial grooming products - he is just an incredibly handsome man IMHO. (But I thought the facial mask was funny anyway.)

 

Jimboi, I think you're probably at least somewhat right, but would you allow that a decision not to wear A & F stuff might depend on the individual - some folks hold up better than others. For some people, they look silly in that gear in their late 20's; others can carry the look off much longer.

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So let's see. We are to take your word on what is appropriate. Or the man who saved Gucci and was creative director for Yves St. Laurent.

 

Tough choice.

 

 

You can take or not take my OPINION. I don't care either way, but I'm just expressing it

 

I don't know what ford did for what ever fashion house nor do I care. 'The man who saved Gucci' can frankly kiss my grits :)

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FreshFluff Grand Master

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BTW, that's not Tom Ford in the video. It's model Juan Betancourt.

 

http://www.thefashionisto.com/juan-betancourt-for-tom-ford-skincare-grooming-campaign/

 

:oI had read somewhere that it was Tom Ford in this campaign but maybe it's a different ad. Yeah, it puts the conversations above in a new light.

 

And the actual Tom Ford. Similar beards and facial structure is my excuse..

http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/F/Tom-Ford-5936-1-402.jpg

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