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I decided to hire an escort after a very positive review here. I called, he called back promptly. We texted the details and confirmed an appointment for 4 days later. The next day, he texted and wished me a happy Thanksgiving and I replied in kind. Saturday, 28 hours before our appointment, I texted him and told him that I had overslept and had missed going to the bank and asked if he would take a check. This was our first meeting so I mentioned that if he would not, I would understand but that I may have to cancel. I did not hear back. Several hours later, I texted him telling him that I had spoken with a friend who was able to cash the check for me, three hour session $900, so I had the cash.

Never hear back from the original message.

Escorts in particular, is a request to pay by check a deal breaker?

i thought by apprising him of the situation, he would respond and perhaps we could work something out (i did mention I had some cash but did not tell him how much, it was $400 in cash).

Anyway, appointment time came and I didn't.

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My impression from other services businesses: Lot of scammers try to use checks, so the two words probably become associated, especially since escorts can't verify checks on outcalls. Of course, many honest people like you also prefer to use checks when lots of cash isn't available.

 

My take: If he had incorrectly assumed you were a scammer after the first text, then he might have thought you'd show up without cash or something after the second text.

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It was an incall but I think your idea may be correct. He seemed nice enough and eager to come out here (for the 3 hour appointment) But he never responded to any of the texts even to say no, he would not take a check. Ah well. But i did not consider your take on this, but when you are essentially an honest person, these deceptions which are pulled all the time, are foreign to you. Yes, I have taken many a bad check in my business, the most infuriating are the ones passed by someone you have gone out of your way to provide a service. Still, I am not so jaded that I would not consider even speaking to someone who offerred to pay by check. I guess I am a sucker, and not in a good way. (Well in a good way too)

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For a first time meeting, paying with a check would be a red flag.

 

Since you live more than an hour away from the city, he estimated it's too much of a risk if he doesn't get paid.

 

My guess is that soon after you mentioned that you may have to cancel, he moved on. A courtesy reply would have been nice.

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I would be surprised if any escort would accept a check from a first time client.

 

What is always interesting to me is how an escort may react to a situation that arises such as this (or other situations) which makes the scheduled appointment look as though it will fall apart for one reason or another. Some seem to take them in stride and others have a totally opposite reaction. I've had to request a postponement and/or cancel a few times (always out of my control and never last minute as I recall) and have experienced both sides. There was one who got extremely abusive and I suppose I was glad to know his true self because of that. Another was as pleasant and understanding as one could be, and we eventually met up for a wonderful time. Others will go silent, just as the OP experienced, which is disappointing but probably understandable.

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Something seems strange here---you overslept and didn't get to the bank but you had enough in an account to write a check for $900? Doesn't your bank or another branch have an atm that is available 24 hours?? Or don't you have an atm or debit card? Perhaps this incident might prompt you to have access to money in addition to checks? I'm not trying to be critical but perhaps the escort saw too many things in your texts and this made him "move on."

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My bank won't let me take out more than $500 a day from the ATM.

 

I agree that paying by check would be a red flag for a first time. Bad checks notwithstanding, you'd find out his real name, either as you wrote it or as he endorsed it.

 

I did tip a first-time hire with a check, years ago. He was uncomfortable with giving me his name, but did want the money. If I recall correctly, it was through an agency that accepted credit cards.

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My bank won't let me take out more than $500 a day from the ATM.

 

Mine too. But I was in a situation like that of purplekow one time, and found that a phone call to the bank would let them raise the ATM daily withdrawal limit temporarily, for that 24-hour period. Very convenient.

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number one is that checks are a dying and nearly extinct species...... seriously..... if this kid is under 30 he may have NEVER seen one. I am not joking! I gladly take checks from my REGULARS but from a first time client i think it is an unnecessary risk. I agree with the poster who spoke of the atm. Even if there is a daily limit you should have said I can get $500 out of the atm and figure out a way to get you the rest. And also just as a point of reference my 3 hour rate is 400 even if i have to drive an hour. Shop around. In my humble (lol!)) opinion many of todays younger escorts are WAY overpriced and they WAY underperform! http://www.rentboy.com/magicmikey

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I don't accept cheques (as we spell them in England) as payment but I do have a paypal account which I don't advertise or publicise (because they're a pain in the neck if they find out you're using it for escorting) and if someone wants to extend etc and has no more cash on them Im happy for them to make an instant payment by PayPal on my iPad in the comfort of my home. It's doesn't happen often but it's there as a contingency plan should it ever be required.

 

I'm more trusting with clients after I've seen them a few times. One being a client I have who books me for overnights. He tells me which cities he's going to be in and when he's arriving et. and I book the train tickets and confirm I can attend. He always reimburses me the train ticket amounts when I see him and encourages me to travel first class. Sometimes I do if its only an extra £20 and sometimes I don't because it can be hundreds more. He trusts me to be sensible and I trust him to reimburse me but if he'd wanted to pay by cheque on his first appointment I possibly wouldn't ever have met him in the first place.

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As a fossil, i still use checks.

As a cheapskate, I do not have an ATM card as I do not like paying to get my own money and when i did, I usually forgot my code or lost my card.

As a homebody, I would rather pay to have someone come to me rather than travel to the city for a discounted fee.

As a gentleman, I respond to communication, even negative communication, rather than simply ignoring it.

As a night owl, I find myself oversleeping now and again.

Having never been a boy scout, i find myself scrambling for a solution from problems created by my own lack or preparation. This was one of them, but it really is the lack of a response, rather than not taking the check that has my panties in a knot.

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Just curious. If the appt was made 4 days in advance, how is it that the means of payment had not been decided upon and that the cash amount was not ready

in advance. I'm 67 and always am prepared to make cash payment as agreed. I've also got a regular who visits me 2-3 days at a time. He arranges all his flights

and never asks for money up front. I do realize that this was a first time hire but there seems to have been ample time to be prepared.

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I have never paid by check, and would feel uncomfortable doing so with someone I've never before seen. However, with one or two of my regular escorts I wouldn't give it a second thought. If my regulars would enable credit card payments, I'd happily do that if only for the ease of making payment -- using Amex would be far easier even than a check and I wouldn't have to deal with large sums of cash for an overnight. $400 or $500 for a couple of hours with one of my regulars isn't a big deal, but carrying enough cash to pay for an overnight engagement make me a little uncomfortable.

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You stated in your earlier post that this was to be an incall...?

 

I can't speak for PK, but I believe that is exactly what he meant That he was having an in call at his home. Besides, this petty point doesn't seem to have much relevance to the thread. I think PK explained his position very clearly and honestly.

 

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As a fossil, i still use checks.

As a cheapskate, I do not have an ATM card as I do not like paying to get my own money and when i did, I usually forgot my code or lost my card.

As a homebody, I would rather pay to have someone come to me rather than travel to the city for a discounted fee.

As a gentleman, I respond to communication, even negative communication, rather than simply ignoring it.

As a night owl, I find myself oversleeping now and again.

Having never been a boy scout, i find myself scrambling for a solution from problems created by my own lack or preparation. This was one of them, but it really is the lack of a response, rather than not taking the check that has my panties in a knot.

As a fossil, you may keep writing your checks - I hate writing checks and simply use my bank's BillPay which is FREE.

As a cheapskate, I cannot believe you pay $0.46 per bill per month to mail a check! FYI, ATM cards do not carry a fee for withdrawals from the ATM machine at your bank. However, soon, you'll pay a fee to speak with a teller in your bank... (sighs) I suggest keeping an ATM card for 'emergencies' and also because the merchant can process the card as a credit card and you don't pay a fee.As a homebody, I prefer the target of my affection in my bed to me having to find his!

As a gentleman, I agree responding to communications is a sign of gentlemanly behavior... the gentleman you contacted didn't respond, may it was a blessing he no call/no showed you.

As a night owl, sleep all you want, and be thankful you can sleep!

As a lifelong Boy Scout, I enjoyed my first hand-jobs, blow-jobs, frontagings and fuckings on campouts.

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I can't recall endorsing a cheque for deposit (via ATM) in probably more than 5 years - so that shouldn't be an issue. I know that as Canadians we probably use more debit transactions / auto checking acct withdraw to pay monthly bills than just about any country - so from the escort perspective CASH may not be in their future a few years down the road (CASH is becoming progressively more scarce) I have many small business friends who are simply stunned by how little cash they generate compared to as recently as 5-7 years ago. The arrival of Square as a payment system has revolutionized the service sector (plumber, electrician, painter, dog walker, vet) so that anyone can take a credit card. We are living in times of epic upheaval to many traditional business models - CASH WAS KING but is rapidly being dethroned ! Thoughts gentlemen and service providers ?

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I can't speak for PK, but I believe that is exactly what he meant That he was having an in call at his home. Besides, this petty point doesn't seem to have much relevance to the thread. I think PK explained his position very clearly and honestly.

 

Boston Bill

 

I suppose I’ve always incorrectly understood that an incall was at the escort’s location and an outcall was at the client’s location. Thanks for educating me.

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Geesh, at $900 for three hours, I think the escort might have offered to accept payment via American Express. That way also I'd get the rewards and at $900, those points would add up pretty fast. I think I'd even suggest to the AmEx people that perhaps they might institute an "Adult" section in their rewards program. You know, for 100,000 reward points, you qualify for a night with some escort of decent repute and standing. That promising idea would at least get me to look through the rewards booklets they send me from time to time. Can't you just imagine the ad copy: "and for the high-rolling gentleman who has racked up 500,000 we offer a weekend with Tristan Baldwin or whoever the EOY is." (No offense, Tristan) Sounds like a win-win to me.

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No, i think you are correct in your original understanding. An outcall is when the escort travels out to the client; it is from the escort's perspective, not the client's.

 

 

I suppose I’ve always incorrectly understood that an incall was at the escort’s location and an outcall was at the client’s location. Thanks for educating me.

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Whichever way you paint it, I was addressing an in call as the client i was in my home as the escort he was doing an outcall. in any case he was to come to my home. As to the financial arrangements. i called Wednesday night, Thursday was Thanksgiving. I worked all day Friday and Saturday was the day I overslept. The plan was to deposit the paycheck I got on Friday and withdraw the cash for the encounter. Ultimately, I scraped up the cash but as the escort e mailed me today, 48 hours later, he does not want to do business with people who are wishy washy on cash.

As for ATMs, I did mention my proclivity to lose cards and pass codes. i have one credit card and have be known to go weeks not knowing where it is within my home. It has always shown up but I am sloppy about this within the confines of my home.

For a college paper in 1969 I wrote a short story about someone wishing to pay cash in a credit only society. We are almost there.

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I suppose I’ve always incorrectly understood that an incall was at the escort’s location and an outcall was at the client’s location. Thanks for educating me.

 

No, i think you are correct in your original understanding. An outcall is when the escort travels out to the client; it is from the escort's perspective, not the client's.

Why so one directional? In-call and out-call mean the same thing either way. It is the subject of the term that is important. If an escort comes to my house, for me - it's an in-call, for him - it's an out-call. The subject determines the direction of the call. Escorts often advertise in-call only or out-call only. I always take that to imply the subject escort is in-call only, or out-call only. From me to see the former, it's an in-call for him and an out-call for me. For me to see the latter, it's an in-call for me and an out-call for him. Sheesh...

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Get yourself a one-hole punch - the device, not an escort. Punch an hole in the corner of the care and slide it onto your key ring. It will always be there with your keys. Be sure not to punch the magnetic strip on the back.

 

Or wait a few minutes and your smartphone will have barcodes and NFC - Near-field communications where you get it close enough to the NFC reader and they grab the money from your account.

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If I were the escort in this situation, there would be a number of serious issues in my mind. First of all, "I overslept" is a flaky excuse. It may have been true, but it's an indication of someone who's unreliable and can't be depended on. You may not be (and I actually don't think you are) a flake, but the escort doesn't know you, so if this is your first interaction with him, it's a bad first impression. The second, obvious issue is that there's no guarantee the check will be good from his perspective, especially in a business where many people try to rip off the escort. In fact, if the check is bad, he would probably be charged a return check fee--and that's not even counting the money he would be out coming to see you. Since he's never even met you, it was probably rather presumptuous on your part to assume this wasn't going to be a major issue. Third, of course, is that in writing him a check, he will have to disclose to you both his real name and his bank account number. Again, quite presumptuous to assume this wasn't going to be an issue. Yes, it would have been nice for him to text you back to say "Sorry, the appointment's a no-go," but when I think of all of the times escorts have completely blown off appointments with me for no reason at all (or, indeed, because they "overslept"), without as much as texting me either, not too surprising. What would you do if an escort you never met in a new town overslept his appointment, and asked to make other arrangements? Unless he was the only escort you found attractive in that town, you would probably move on to another escort. I know I would.

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