Kyle Braun--Did His Ad Change From Safe to Unsafe

[+ Gar1eth]

I don't want to harp on this one subject. But I may be going to San Francisco on Friday (although the possibility seems to be getting less and less). In case I was able to go, I was looking at who was advertising for maybe a final experience as my job/career situation is no better than it was when I announced my Forum hiatus months ago. As an aside--I have to say that for the type of guys I like--masculine, muscularly-athletic to muscular versatile/bottom guys seem, there are hardly any at all. Really almost the only guy currently advertising who fits my ideal is Mitch Branson, and he seems to have limited availability as well as probably being beyond my price range.( Boy do I wish Braedan Casey or Conner Habib were still advertising).

 

But I remembered Kyle Braun had been a Cover Boy a few months ago , and I remembered reading his ad at the time. I thought I remembered his ads discussing safe sex. But when I went to his Rentmen and his Rentboy ad today, I saw no mention of being safe, and on the Rentmen ad, he lists being in a Raw F-ck Club Video.

 

http://rentmen.com/Kyle_Braun

 

So my question is--does anyone else remember seeing him list playing "Safe" in his ads in the past--or am I mistaken and he never listed "Safe"?

 

Gman

[maninsoma]

If he listed "safe sex only" in his ad previously, it was probably only for a short time. I remember noticing "anything goes/sometimes safe" when I first saw his ad a few months ago. Maybe you're just noticing since he really seems to be emphasizing barebacking now, not only by mentioning various videos he's done but also wearing a Bareback That Hole t-shirt in one of his ad's photos.

 

Of course that doesn't mean you have to rule him out since presumably you can play safe with him if you choose to hire him.

[+ Gar1eth]

Ok- someone PM'ed me that when Kyle's ad 1st went up it did say 'Safe Only' and that his Adam4Adam listing- I'm not sure whether it is a Pro or regular listing- used to say HIV negative and now doesn't list his status at all.

 

Gman

[+ dupontversDC]

He's hot, and his rate is great.

[Lankypeters]

He's photographed doing bareback on the "Raw Fuck Club" site.

[Daverwr]

One of his posted video clips on his ad is with another SF escort. They do not appear to be playing safely.

[+ Gar1eth]

He's photographed doing bareback on the "Raw Fuck Club" site.

 

One of his posted video clips on his ad is with another SF escort. They do not appear to be playing safely.

 

Both of these are the reasons, along with the fact that neither his Rentmen nor his Rentboy ad currently mention 'playing safe' when I was sure the ads previously did, that I brought up this topic to begin with. And after I posted, someone PM'ed me that his ads did previously mention 'safe play' and his Adam4Adam has changed from saying he was HIV negative to not mentioning it at all.

 

Gman

[nycguy]

I don't mean to be flip or sarcastic here, but what's the point of another thread about an escort who barebacks or whose profile indicates that they might bareback because their profile is silent as to the "safe only" question? Many escorts, probably 70% or more, including the "safe only" escorts bareback. It is just the way it is, like it or not. Look at the trend in the porn studios and with many porn stars. Lucas Studios now has bareback movies. Formerly condom only porn starts start shooting for TIM. The porn stars, and often escorts, hired by Lucas did not suddenly go bareback for the sake of Lucas. They were doing it before. Go to personal hookup sites and there are guys who are "safe only" in their escort profiles who are looking to "take loads" in their personal, non-escort profiles.

 

One's escort does not come with a "sanitized for your protection" banner wrapped around him. Clients who want their mouths filled with huge cum loads do not have the right to be outraged about the "irresponsibility" of barebacking escorts. They do not have the right to take cum they way they want to and call others irresponsible for taking it the way they want to. They are not entitled to guaranteed HIV- cum that they crave and want denied to others because the "others" want it in their asses and not the "responsible" way of only in their mouths.

[JT Brooklyn]

I don't mean to be flip or sarcastic here, but what's the point of another thread about an escort who barebacks or whose profile indicates that they might bareback because their profile is silent as to the "safe only" question? Many escorts, probably 70% or more, including the "safe only" escorts bareback. It is just the way it is, like it or not. Look at the trend in the porn studios and with many porn stars. Lucas Studios now has bareback movies. Formerly condom only porn starts start shooting for TIM. The porn stars, and often escorts, hired by Lucas did not suddenly go bareback for the sake of Lucas. They were doing it before. Go to personal hookup sites and there are guys who are "safe only" in their escort profiles who are looking to "take loads" in their personal, non-escort profiles.

 

One's escort does not come with a "sanitized for your protection" banner wrapped around him. Clients who want their mouths filled with huge cum loads do not have the right to be outraged about the "irresponsibility" of barebacking escorts. They do not have the right to take cum they way they want to and call others irresponsible for taking it the way they want to. They are not entitled to guaranteed HIV- cum that they crave and want denied to others because the "others" want it in their asses and not the "responsible" way of only in their mouths.

 

Well said.....Totally Agree!

[+ Gar1eth]

I don't mean to be flip or sarcastic here, but what's the point of another thread about an escort who barebacks or whose profile indicates that they might bareback because their profile is silent as to the "safe only" question? Many escorts, probably 70% or more, including the "safe only" escorts bareback. It is just the way it is, like it or not. Look at the trend in the porn studios and with many porn stars. Lucas Studios now has bareback movies. Formerly condom only porn starts start shooting for TIM. The porn stars, and often escorts, hired by Lucas did not suddenly go bareback for the sake of Lucas. They were doing it before. Go to personal hookup sites and there are guys who are "safe only" in their escort profiles who are looking to "take loads" in their personal, non-escort profiles.

 

One's escort does not come with a "sanitized for your protection" banner wrapped around him. Clients who want their mouths filled with huge cum loads do not have the right to be outraged about the "irresponsibility" of barebacking escorts. They do not have the right to take cum they way they want to and call others irresponsible for taking it the way they want to. They are not entitled to guaranteed HIV- cum that they crave and want denied to others because the "others" want it in their asses and not the "responsible" way of only in their mouths.

 

The point was not another escort who is barebacking/ HIV positive, but the fact that this was specific escort, he previously advertised- and not that long ago- as being safe and HIV negative, and has now eliminated mention of his HIV status on Adam4Adam and is now not just barebacking privately without letting anyone know but blatantly in films. It's a big change in a short period of time.

 

Gman

[+ Funguy]

Geez….San Francisco is a virtual candy store of versatile/versatile/bottom handsome, masculine guys in all price ranges. I can't believe you can't find someone with whom to go out with a BANG! Think good things GMan…you WILL go to San Francisco Friday and you WILL have a major good time. Just open your eyes and let your little head find it's way to the reviews!

[nycguy]

Gman - and my point was that it might have been a big change in his profile, but not any change in what he has actually been doing with his clients or in his personal life.

 

"and is now not just barebacking privately without letting anyone know."

 

You hit the nail on the head, "privately". What makes it private, is not shouting it to the world. Do you think escorts do not have private lives? Do you think they are not entitled to private lives? Do you think their private lives should be lived according to a checklist approved by and then published by clients? You want the "honesty" so you can choose whose cum to take. When your private life is lived exclusively by sucking cock, or getting fucked by cock, that is condom wrapped only, then you have no reason to worry about or delve into what your escort does in his private life.

 

Your escort is under no obligation to complete your checklist of what he does or does not do in his private life and then "letting anyone know" the results of that checklist. Your only obligation, or right, is to play the way you want to play.

 

"So my question is--does anyone else remember seeing him list playing "Safe" in his ads in the past--or am I mistaken and he never listed "Safe"?"

 

Again, my point was that you cannot be naïve enough to rely on what is or isn't in an escort's profile. If you play safe only (including no sucking of unwrapped cock or sperm swallowing), then what is your problem with what an escort does in his personal life and why the need to start the thread?

[marylander1940]

I don't mean to be flip or sarcastic here, but what's the point of another thread about an escort who barebacks or whose profile indicates that they might bareback because their profile is silent as to the "safe only" question? Many escorts, probably 70% or more, including the "safe only" escorts bareback. It is just the way it is, like it or not. Look at the trend in the porn studios and with many porn stars. Lucas Studios now has bareback movies. Formerly condom only porn starts start shooting for TIM. The porn stars, and often escorts, hired by Lucas did not suddenly go bareback for the sake of Lucas. They were doing it before. Go to personal hookup sites and there are guys who are "safe only" in their escort profiles who are looking to "take loads" in their personal, non-escort profiles.

 

One's escort does not come with a "sanitized for your protection" banner wrapped around him. Clients who want their mouths filled with huge cum loads do not have the right to be outraged about the "irresponsibility" of barebacking escorts. They do not have the right to take cum they way they want to and call others irresponsible for taking it the way they want to. They are not entitled to guaranteed HIV- cum that they crave and want denied to others because the "others" want it in their asses and not the "responsible" way of only in their mouths.

 

Brilliant!

 

I think you are absolutely right at least 70% of them BB, sometimes for an extra fee or for the same rate.

I always email guys from my own email account asking to play safe, after that I email the same guys again from another email account asking to BB, and 8 out of 10 the guys who said "safe only" first agree to BB after I request it as long as I tell them I'm "negative", because we are ALL negative, right?

I know it's a tough economy but c'mon is preventable. Obesity is a national security threat, is Hiv next? Personally, I don't support guys who BB, I got rid of my Corbin Fisher membership because of that, the more guys see it, the more normal and acceptable it is.

Don't worry guys, all depends on what you do, not what you say by email.