How Many Escorts Have You Seen? (Thus Far)

[Phil_musc]

We'll LBT... Now you just gave me a flashback!! I was the infamous Don Giovanni himself singing the duet "La ci darem la mano" in a recital... one of my very few operatic appearances... LOL!

 

(Sorry for the detour...)

 

Isn't "La ci darem" an s & M duet about fisting?

[Phil_musc]

Actually I'm glad that this thread has cropped up, although at first I felt like such a slut amongst a Sunday school class - these posters who demurely claim to have hired, (in thin, quavery voice) oh, I guess maybe it was about 7. . ." Pu-leeze! I guess the more serious aficionados among us had to take some time to tally up the list and sometimes those walks down memory lane take more time than we at first might think. Or perhaps we have all recently felt the need for more discretion in our postings here - could be. Anyway, G-man, pool boy, and Charlie - thanks for your honest reflection.

[+ poolboy48220]

I'm grateful for a place where I can be so open about this. Even among my more slutty friends, or the dancer boys, I'm somewhat restrained about this. There's one friend at Gold Coast I discuss this with, I should get him signed up here.

[+ poolboy48220]

so how strict are the rules? Fr'instance, if you saw two guys at one session, does that count as one, or two?

[whipped guy]

Sir Colin Davis conducting the Royal Opera House. 1992. Philips Label.

Thanks, I have heard and like that recording very much!!!

 

Isn't "La ci darem" an s & M duet about fisting?

LOL!!! Yes, the new Italian version according to the latest research in the Barenreiter New Mozart Edition is, "La' ci darem la mano nella forma di un pugno." As in Fisting... :o

[leigh.bess.toad]

I think many men hire escorts and stick with a regular because they are looking for an emotional bond, or because they want the predictability of the experience.

 

Well I know in my case, yes, I do have an emotional bond with the guys I've hired on multiple occasions. But that also adds to the intensity of the experience, at least for me. I care about them as friends (and I know they feel the same about me) so I (we), try to make sure we're both really trying our best to make the other person's experience incredible.

 

And maybe the quality of the experience is predictable, but the actual experiences for me vary greatly from visit to visit. Most of the guys I've been with enough that we both know how to push the other's buttons. Most (but not all) of the guys I hire tend to be versatile. Being versatile myself, spending time with them is completely unplanned. And this is especially true when I put two (or more) of them together. Getting 3 versatile guys in the bed, with no plans, no agendas, and just let the feelings at the time dictate what will happen makes it totally unpredictable.

 

And that's the way I really like it. The joy of being versatile is the unexpected -- you never know what will happen. Just come ready for anything and everything. Put it this way: both the time I was a fisting top and the time I was a fisting bottom was completely and totally organic and totally unplanned. They just sort of "happened" ("oops, I have my fist up your ass. How'd that happen??") . And if you can do those things unplanned, I don't know how you could say the experiences are predictable.

[daviddd49]

so how strict are the rules? Fr'instance, if you saw two guys at one session, does that count as one, or two?

 

A guy is a guy is a guy. Two guys in one session would be two guys.

At least, that's my opinion ...

[BaronArtz]

This is a great thread! I moved to NYC in the late 1980s. When Show Palace, Cats, Stellas and the Gaiety were around, I hired many escorts - possibly 2 or 3 per week. I think it was because of (1) alcohol, (2) the guys being 'there' and available - an impromptu decision in other words and (3) fees being low. Most of these guys were one-timers only but 'Carlos' and 'John' from Stellas became regular hires. Fastforwarding to 2013, I hire fewer guys. I think that internet hires require more planning, which takes away the impromptu aspect of a hire - the guy is not 'there', you are not sure what you are going to get, the scheduling is more complicated and the fees are much higher. And let's admit, I am OLDER now. And probably more jaded. When I look at the rentboy.com portfolio for Manhattan, not a great many guys look exciting to me. Over time, I have evolved into hiring more masseurs with benefits rather than escorts. Overall, I find that a more satisfying experience than a straight up escort hire. At the moment I am seeing one escort who has retired but still sees me. He travels a lot for his 'day' job so I don't see him all that often. And I am seeing one masseur, who is excellent at what he does. So, that's it for me.

[+ Cock Eyed Optimist]

OK, I have to jump in here. When I read BaronArtz's posting with the mention of "Cats" bar, I felt that I need to join in. (Cats Bar was my all-time favorite bar!) I started hiring in the mid-80's, usually coming to NYC to do so. This was before online hiring sites, so one had to do the work himself! LOL It was so easy to find an escort in Midtown Manhattan at the places mentioned by Baron. Sit down at a bar, wait a few minutes to be approached, make your selection, and head back to your hotel.

 

So in regards to numbers, one could only guess. When I started reading this thread I felt like a slut because the number of hires being given were in the 20's. Now I feel I can "let my hair down" and reply. Those of us who have been on this site since Hooboy started it can probably not come up with any accurate number of escorts we have hired.

[+ Charlie]

 

Those of us who have been on this site since Hooboy started it can probably not come up with any accurate number of escorts we have hired.

Au contraire, mon ami. I can tell you the name, date, location, price and activities engaged in, for every escort I have hired since my first, "Daniel," on Nov. 22, 1978. (Yes, I am a rather obsessive list-keeper.)

[Irtwo]

I think that internet hires require more planning, which takes away the impromptu aspect of a hire - the guy is not 'there', you are not sure what you are going to get, the scheduling is more complicated and the fees are much higher.

 

Totally agree. I would be hiring a lot more if a new Stellas opened up.

[BaronArtz]

Totally agree. I would be hiring a lot more if a new Stellas opened up.

 

Isn't it? It was just so convenient. You're ready. They are there and ready. The bar tenders were available to give you some insight on some of the rough trade. You can have a 'preview' of the goods in the men's room and off you go. I can see the advantages of internet-based hiring, but everybody (client and escort) over-complicates it. Scheduling becomes a real nightmare, and you just don't know who you end up meeting.

 

With a new mayor in New York, it just might happen that some rules will be more 'relaxed' and a new Rounds, Cats, or Stellas emerges ... not keeping my fingers crossed, but I am hoping.

[Bosguy]

I've probably seen 10 different escorts since I started hiring. This is pretty much a guess, because I can't really remember. As far as number of hires I won't even try to guess!

 

Probably 99% of my hires are repeats with guys I know. It's a very small group of guys that I see. I have been lucky to find great guys I enjoy on many levels and stick to them. I haven't hired anyone new in a long time.. although there is one that I have my eye on. Hee Hee.

 

Like Countryboywny, my number of hires is relatively small, but have all come highly reviewed and recommended and I truly believe in quality over quantity. Since late October, 2010, I have hired a total of 11 working guys:

6 for 2+ hours No repeat ( due to scheduling issues, not compatability)

1 for overnight+ (who I plan on spending additional time this spring) No repeat as of this time

2 for overnight+ ( I would see both of these guys whenever possible)

2 for overnight+/long weekends+ (numerous repeats and, hopefully) many more in the future

 

I also have 4 guys on my "Have to spend time with soon" list

 

By the way, the very satisfying time I have been able (or will be able) to spend with these fantastic professional MEN has only been able to happen because of this Forum. Thanks Daddy!!!!

 

Boston Bill

[+ purplekow]

As fees have escolated, i doubt you will see many posters with hires in the hundres. When an hour with a man with $100 out of pocket cash on the barrelhead, one could have 100 encounters for $10,000. Now, with the move to longer encounters $10,000 might only be enough for 3 or 4 weekends.

I have an old post in which I delineated my hires to date and the cost. I believe the cost was in the area of $100,000. For some of you out there, this may be chump change, but for me, this is a significant expenditure.

[+ Charlie]

When I started hiring, an appt through a NYC agency was $65. At my most extravagant, I never spent more than $2000 in one year.

[Epigonos]

I don't even want to think about the total amount of money I have spent, over the years, hiring escorts. If I ever came up with a figure I would likely go into cardiac arrest. Oh well, what the hell it is only money and I have certainly enjoyed the results of those expenditures.

[Michael Wayne]

i have never hired. over my career i have had 12 fellow escorts HIRE me so i dont know if that counts. I have worked with (or in....lol) about 20 different escorts over the years and been friends with dozens . Funny thing is that at my age occasionally when i am out or on grindr i'll get hustled by a little 22 year old wanna be. I find it funny and it reminds me of my youth. one thing i will add here is that i have noticed a big change over my years in the biz: when i started out MOST clients chose one guy and stuck with him for the long haul. There weren't all the websites and all the choices you have now. The biz is far more competitive and cut throat these days. Sometimes as an old school nice guy all the changes are stressful for me but, hey, i am just glad to still be in demand! http://www.rentboy.com/magicmikey http://www.rentmen.com/mikeyusatop

[+ dupontversDC]

I've hired 81 times so far this year, hired 76 times last year. Lots of repeats among those numbers, but lots of different guys as well. 55 the year before.

[bjluver80]

By my quick count, I've hired at least 25 guys who were officially in the biz as in had an ad in print (back in the olden days) or on a site other than Craigs List or similar board. There have been a few others I've made donations to, but I'm not counting those people.

 

Most were one-and-dones (mainly due to location), but of those 25 there are 8 through the years (since 1997) that I've considered regulars with multiple connections (minimum of five encounters).

[daviddd49]

I've hired 81 times so far this year, hired 76 times last year. Lots of repeats among those numbers, but lots of different guys as well. 55 the year before.

 

Most impressive!

My original thinking was to ask about how many different Escorts guys here had seen; figuring out how many times one has hired in any given year yields a different, but definitely interesting, category of data.

 

In 2013, thus far, I have had 33 hires; I have 5 left to go this year, for a total of 38 in 2013. Without question, this is the most I've ever hired in any given year. it would have been more, but I've also had several cancellations and a no-show.

[+ purplekow]

I have attempted to hire only 6 times this year resulting in only 3 hires. The other 3 were no shows. I must admit the no shows, like one today, make me want to hire less. The most I have hired in a year was about 4 years ago when I hired about 25 times so my pace has decreased mostly due to lack of a local reasonable and reliable escort and travellers who are not coming through NYC anymore or at least a lot less. I live only one hour from NYC but when i speak to escorts about coming here, it is like the end of the world. I do go into the city for hook ups but I work 6 or 7 days a week, 10-12 hours a day and the schedule is a bit unpredictable. I can always get away but not reliably for the 4 hours that a 1 hour in Manhattan takes for me. Ah well, more money in my pocket but it is money I would gladly spend.

[+ poolboy48220]

By my quick count, I've hired at least 25 guys who were officially in the biz as in had an ad in print (back in the olden days) or on a site other than Craigs List or similar board. There have been a few others I've made donations to, but I'm not counting those people.

 

Most were one-and-dones (mainly due to location), but of those 25 there are 8 through the years (since 1997) that I've considered regulars with multiple connections (minimum of five encounters).

I'm counting any where money was exchanged. Some guys had ads, some I met in the bar and I found out they were escorts after talking to them for a while (and after I was long smitten), and there are others who just needed "helping out".

 

Now I've got that line from the original "Arthur" in my head..."You're a hooker!? I thought I was just doing great with you!"

[daviddd49]

I'm counting any where money was exchanged. Some guys had ads, some I met in the bar and I found out they were escorts after talking to them for a while (and after I was long smitten), and there are others who just needed "helping out".

 

In reading back through this thread and thinking about my own experiences, I would agree that the exchange of money for "intimate time" is one of the important criteria that I use to define when the relationship is a "professional" one or not. "Sex for favors" could, possibly, be added to the definition, but after reflection I would not understand such as being "professional." In other words, I've been offered sex in return for good grades -- i.e., a cute but not overly brilliant jock offers to blow me if I'll give him a passing grade where otherwise he would fail. I have to admit that I've been tempted, and that one of my favorite-escort fulfilled fantasies has orbited around that kind of theme, however I've not succumbed to the actual temptation and compromised my personal professional ethics on this point. The closest I ever came to doing so was when I booked one of my students whom I had realized was working as an Escort (I saw his Rentboy ad). I waited until AFTER I'd given him his well-EARNED grade (-A) ... and, then, he had no idea that his client was one of his former professors until he walked into my hotel room (I was a visiting professor at that school and was staying in a Residence Hotel). We had a fabulous time ... and, on occasion, I still see him "professionally" even though he's "retired" from escorting and now is in the same "profession" as am I.

 

I've never picked up a guy in a bar only to discover that he's "a hooker" (alla that funny scene from Arthur). I've had a couple of twinky dancers seek me out in the bar, after their "shift" at dancing ON the bar was over, and offer me "time for money." Of course, I took them up on their offers. But, I'm not sure such are "escort encounters." While money did exchange hands, these we're clearly not "professional boys" ... $150 plus breakfast for an overnight fuckfest with two perfect 19-year-old blond twinks really isn't reflective of either being "professional boys," they didn't advertise, didn't have a clientele base, and while I would have enjoyed seeing at least one of them again, I never could find him again. So, I don't include either in my escort list. Hell, I don't have a name for either.

 

On another tangent, I've had escorts with whom I've developed a long-lasting, mutually enjoyable, and yet still very professional relationship offer me "special consideration" or "discounts" or "free time" or whatever you want to call it. I still count such encounters as escort-encounters and not as "mutual hookups" because (1) money has still exchanged hands, and (2) the on-going nature of the relationship still has a professional element to it. It doesn't happen often, however it usually begins when an appointment has gone well and it's clear that neither I nor the escort wants it to end at the appointed time. After money has exchanged hands for the agreed-upon time together he says something like "are you busy for dinner?" or "can I talk to you about something?" or some such similar. From there-on the dynamic changes slightly. Once I had an escort only take part of his nominal fee. When I realized that he'd left behind on the coffee table a couple of the several hundreds that had been his fee I stopped him and tried to give him the rest, only to have him kiss me and say "happy birthday." Those were all still escort encounters ... clearly ... and on subsequent appointments I never expected repeat considerations; sometimes they happened, but not every time, and I appreciated it when it did. I know that I'm no prize, physically, but I do fancy myself as a kind and considerate guy: clean, caring, intelligent, and engaging. Those are all good qualities, and some of the escorts I've seen (and am currently seeing) appear to appreciate them in me.

[KissingCalvin]

Ok, it's an 'old' thread, but someone else resurrected it

 

3 since 2002. I thought two, till I remembered there was another 1 time.

First one in Europe, Patrick. He was 24, very professional for being so young, blond, really cute, extremely affectionate, well formed and endowed. I had had gay sex before him (I had/have a partner), but he was the first time I had anal sex (he is a top) and absolutely loved it. Our first time was when I was traveling in business. He was so sweet and amazing I ended up hiring him 6 or so more times over about a year and a half including three overnights.

Second was another 24 year old. 6 yrs or so ago. Sweet, cute and affectionate, but didn't click. Another business trip 2 hours. Forgot about that.

 

Third was a horrid experience. He was gorgeous, 28 and muscle jock. And treated me like shit. I can be treated like shit for free, I don't need to pay for it. 1 hr that was 20 min if that. Funny, I just his ad on rent boy. I cringed and clicked. 4-5 years ago.

 

I think my biggest constraint that kept that number from being higher has been money and time. I make a decent income, but have several financial obligations. Time, well, very little free time . The constraint after has been that and the experience.

 

I have a fantasy of winning the lottery and being a bit more free with my time and money .

[+ purplekow]

 

I have a fantasy of winning the lottery and being a bit more free with my time and money .

 

What an unusual fantasy. On a less snarky note, do not let the opportunity for a good time pass you buy while you work to try to find the good life.