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Remember what you heard about gay men when you were a kid, the silly stereotypes or coded language or the very first things that made you think you might be one? My mother (now in her 90s) gave me a flashback last night as I was writing out some checks for her to sign. "You have such nice handwriting," she said--not for the first time. I was already getting praise for good penmanship back in the '60s when, one day, I heard my mother and her sister discussing their hairdresser, a man who lived with another man in the only purple house in town (also much remarked upon).

 

"... And he has the most beautiful handwriting," said my aunt.

 

I don't know if kids in grammar school are graded on penmanship these days, but we were then and I gave some serious thought to how much I cared about that "A."

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I Am The Anti-Stereotype

 

Remember what you heard about gay men when you were a kid, the silly stereotypes or coded language or the very first things that made you think you might be one? My mother (now in her 90s) gave me a flashback last night as I was writing out some checks for her to sign. "You have such nice handwriting," she said--not for the first time. I was already getting praise for good penmanship back in the '60s when, one day, I heard my mother and her sister discussing their hairdresser, a man who lived with another man in the only purple house in town (also much remarked upon).

 

"... And he has the most beautiful handwriting," said my aunt.

 

I don't know if kids in grammar school are graded on penmanship these days, but we were then and I gave some serious thought to how much I cared about that "A."

I think in many ways-at least superficially--I don't fit the stereotype--I don't know anything about antiques--although I like them; I'm not into art, the symphony, or opera (I do like plays/musicals--although not experimental/theater of the absurd (probably wouldn't see Waiting for Godot) or unhappy depressing stuff like Pinter); I can't dance and have no real sense of rhythm; my handwriting is terrible (my straight brother's handwriting is excellent); I have no sense of fashion; I am a fat middle-aged guy--never really been in shape. I'm sure there are lots of other 'antis' in my make-up, but these were off the top of my head--along with my hair unfortunately.

 

As for fitting the stereotype--I guess the major way I fit the gay stereotype is that I'm attracted to males and not females.:p

 

Gman

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Remember what you heard about gay men when you were a kid, the silly stereotypes or coded language or the very first things that made you think you might be one? My mother (now in her 90s) gave me a flashback last night as I was writing out some checks for her to sign. "You have such nice handwriting," she said--not for the first time. I was already getting praise for good penmanship back in the '60s when, one day, I heard my mother and her sister discussing their hairdresser, a man who lived with another man in the only purple house in town (also much remarked upon).

 

"... And he has the most beautiful handwriting," said my aunt.

 

I have terrible handwriting and am straight-guy messy. I always got average to poor grades on handwriting. Guess that makes me a lesbian? :cool:

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I have terrible handwriting and am straight-guy messy. I always got average to poor grades on handwriting. Guess that makes me a lesbian? :cool:

 

No, it's the flannel shirts that make you a lesbian. :p

 

I think we all know that stereotypes don't tell the whole picture. People used to complain about the stereotypes portrayed on "Queer as Folk" but, you know, I could see pieces of someone I know in every character.

 

For myself, I was a classical musician for my first career so yes to the symphony and opera and most arts. Fashion means wearing socks. For high fashion, I'll add a belt. I do cook. My house is usually clean and tidy (thanks to the maid service).

 

I'll admit I do generally have fresh flowers in my living room. But if pressed I'll also admit it's mostly because the guy who sells fresh cut flowers at the farmer's market has a son who is the spitting image of Taylor Lautner. I like to get there early, when they're still unloading the truck. They think I'm waiting patiently but I'm really just enjoying the show.

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For myself, I was a classical musician for my first career so yes to the symphony and opera and most arts.

 

Very cool - a fellow musician! I started off my training in classical piano when I was a kid, though now I work mostly in musicals (stereotype, lol). Though when I was about 11, I started developing a huge interest in opera (another stereotype). Though I suppose what made it worse was that I really wanted to sing the music I was discovering, including the great soprano arias, etc - lots of my school friends didn't know what to make of that, lol (the classical music/opera interest was one thing - singing at times like a girl made it worse, lol) - and I do remember my dad saying that if I had kids teasing me in school, I might reconsider singing like that, lol.

 

But otherwise, I have absolutely no fashion sense, I'm what we tend to call for lack of a better term "straight acting" (i.e. there are still people that are surprised when I come out to them - they say they never would have guessed, lol), and I really have no interest in gay clubs, etc.

 

I do have great handwriting, lol. Though I can easily get lazy about that.

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I have decent penmanship, an above-average fashion sense, and a great eye for design. Even my grubby T-shirt and jeans look put together. Love art and architecture. On the other hand, I've never met a room I can't mess up in thirty seconds flat and despite having a dishwasher I always have dishes in the sink. My condo isn't dirty, but it tends to be disheveled. I drive an American car, but drink Perrier.Go figure.

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I have decent penmanship, an above-average fashion sense, and a great eye for design. Even my grubby T-shirt and jeans look put together. Love art and architecture. On the other hand, I've never met a room I can't mess up in thirty seconds flat and despite having a dishwasher I always have dishes in the sink. My condo isn't dirty, but it tends to be disheveled. I drive an American car, but drink Perrier.Go figure.

 

Depends. Is it Perrier in a bottle or a can?

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As a teenager, I was convinced that I couldn't be gay because I had no desire to dress in women's clothing, or be a girl. I had been brought up to believe that those were the things that being gay was about, and since I didn't identify that way, I was certain I was straight. Thank goodness that I, and most of society, have gotten past those ideas.

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I'm what we tend to call for lack of a better term "straight acting".

 

 

I'm semi 'straight acting'. I'm not overtly effeminate. But I have a few strikes against me starting out because my voice is slightly higher than a lot of males. For example even at the age of 52, I am still occasionally mistaken for female over the phone. I must have a small voicebox. Even before I was this chubby, I never had a noticeable Adam's Apple. And while I may gesticulate more than many straight males- I don't to the extent seen in gay films. I also don't use the expression 'girlfriend' or the like. Most of the escorts I've hired for overnights for weekends have said I don't seem stereotypically gay. I've ways hoped they weren't just being kind.

 

Gman

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. I must have a small voicebox. Even before I was this chubby, I never had a noticeable Adam's Apple.

 

Gman

 

For me the Adam's Apple is a dead giveaway. Of course there are gay guys with "normal" size Adam's Apples, but there are very few straight men without significant Adam's Apples. It seems that it's because this gayness starts in utero and the fetus gets the wrong hormone stimulus at the wrong time affecting many factors in our skeletal make-up. Gay men tend to have narrower shoulders and wider hips than straights, which is why we fine those broad shoulders so HOT. Hmmm...wonder if that's why I cross my legs every time I sit down??

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Remember what you heard about gay men when you were a kid, the silly stereotypes or coded language or the very first things that made you think you might be one? My mother (now in her 90s) gave me a flashback last night as I was writing out some checks for her to sign. "You have such nice handwriting," she said--not for the first time. I was already getting praise for good penmanship back in the '60s when, one day, I heard my mother and her sister discussing their hairdresser, a man who lived with another man in the only purple house in town (also much remarked upon).

 

"... And he has the most beautiful handwriting," said my aunt.

 

I don't know if kids in grammar school are graded on penmanship these days, but we were then and I gave some serious thought to how much I cared about that "A."

 

My chicken scrawl looks like it was written by a drunk doctor whereas my partner of 30 years still gets complements on his penmanship and yes he did as a child and it was the first clue to him that he was a little different than the other boys. The world today is a very different world from growing up in the 60's in terms of stereotypes.

I work with dozens of freelancers in a range of creative disciplines and more than 2/3's of them are gay but certainly very few of them fit the stereotypes of dancers, musicians, designers that we typically associated with being gay in the 60's or 70's - granted I live/work in the largest ethnically diverse city in North America so you would be challenged to pick out half the 20something kids I have worked with and think of them as being gay.

Finally - I most certainly fit the stereotype from the old world ... I was ... creative, obsessed with dressing well, was never athletic, was always the smart weird kid that today is revered as the NERD ! And last but not least ... I remember sitting in a very beautiful Knoll black leather chair at 10 or 11 years of age (not know it was uber-expensive) and stroking that leather upholstery for the next hour and being unbelievably aroused and probably getting my first wood ... should it come as a HUGE surprise that I have been obsessed with boots / leather since my late teens ... and now own more than 40 pairs of boots - we won't even get started on the 2 closets overflowing with leather . . .both dress (I had a custom morning coat and tux made about a decade ago) and fetish - that my friends is my 2 cents on stereo-types - LOL !!!

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[quote=Steven_Draker;8822Quote Originally Posted by docred View Post

Gay men tend to have narrower shoulders and wider hips than straights32]

 

Hmm, I must be straight then ... :confused:

 

Plus I have a big Adam's Apple. Strange. Probably I missed my vocation. :rolleyes:

 

No, Steve! That's what makes you an "Escort of the Year" and such an incredibly hot man to all us guys who have not been blessed with such an awesome physique! :p

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I have decent penmanship, an above-average fashion sense, and a great eye for design. Even my grubby T-shirt and jeans look put together. Love art and architecture. On the other hand, I've never met a room I can't mess up in thirty seconds flat and despite having a dishwasher I always have dishes in the sink. My condo isn't dirty, but it tends to be disheveled. I drive an American car, but drink Perrier.Go figure.

 

I am EXACTLY the same way. Also, I have unusual interests for a woman, reading or watching documentaries about WW2. However, I like makeup, clothes, and other typical girl stuff.

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I don't know if kids in grammar school are graded on penmanship these days

 

Actually, they aren't even teaching cursive writing to students anymore. That stopped 5+ years ago. So my son, who suffers from dysgraphia, who we spent so many hours and hours trying to get to learn how to write in cursive, will be one of the last classes to learn cursive.

 

I have no idea how they'll do a closing on the house in a few years. Or sign a check. Or anything else involving a signature.

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Actually, they aren't even teaching cursive writing to students anymore. That stopped 5+ years ago. So my son, who suffers from dysgraphia, who we spent so many hours and hours trying to get to learn how to write in cursive, will be one of the last classes to learn cursive.

 

I have no idea how they'll do a closing on the house in a few years. Or sign a check. Or anything else involving a signature.

 

There may be a push back on the idea of not teaching cursive. Not everyone agrees with it. Maybe you could spearhead a "Back To Cursive" Movement in your school district.

 

Gman

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