Bar Scene

[zach_wilson]

So I have ran into this problem an few times recently,However most recent was the most off putting. I was recently contacted about inquiry on my ad. The gentlemen seemed nice at first we exchanged interest and so on. After quoting him the rate he said, Oh by the Way I brought you a drink one night at the bar. I said well thank you, I look forward to meeting you again and getting to know you. He then stated Well I am really looking for a bottom, I quickly reiterated that while newly vers, there are still times where I can not take it..Size being the issue. He then stated he believed himself to be nine and thick. I quickly and kindly stated that I could not promise anything because of how big he believed himself to be, However that I could try and if not since he was vers we should be fine? He stated he would rather not because it was a birthday gift to himself and the amount of money would be "wasted" if an good time wasn't had. So I understood and said happy hunting and happy birthday. Then at 1:46 whilst enjoying a cocktail with a friend I have known for years and a few others, I get a text message..."are you wearing a orange shirt". I replied back that i was. He then said "i see you" Then asked if i was working the couple I was with because they were a little older, I replied no. He then asked if i was available...being that it is now 2am, and I am out with friends I replied I am tomorrow. He said "host now?" I replied i couldn't and then he asked rate...which had been quoted earlier the same day. He then asked if my friend was a working boy and if he was available I stated no, and no...my friend is a straight go go boy whom much to my surprise has made it clear he is straight. He then reiterated the rate i had quoted him earlier and i said thats correct. He said "as a bottom?" I stated Sorry as explained earlier I can attempt but there are no guarantees on someone nine and thick. He said "never mind your loss, I have your fee plus bonus later." then i responded sorry i couldn't help. Then this morning he goes its cool Im not interested anyway.I found it rude that he was asking me to leave my friends and then was making kind of rude comments to me even though i was very nice in every bit of wording. Straight down to wishing him happy hunting.

 

Has this ever happened before to anyone else? How does one deal with this?

[+ purplekow]

I think it would be wise to meet this guy, not for the purpose of getting together, rather so you can identify him. He sounds a bit stalkerish and right now he has the advantage of knowing who you are. You should know who he is.

[Bosguy]

I think it would be wise to meet this guy, not for the purpose of getting together, rather so you can identify him. He sounds a bit stalkerish and right now he has the advantage of knowing who you are. You should know who he is.

 

PK is so right. Get in touch with him and agree to meet him at this particular bar and "TALK". Definitely a potential stalker. I would add that you have a friend with you somewhere in the background.

 

Good luck. Be careful.

 

Boston Bill

[Steven_Draker]

How does one deal with this?

 

Just don't.

 

2:00 am at the bar is not the time, nor the place to make business arrangements.

 

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[instudiocity]

As an escort friend of mine says, "CREEPER ALERT!" He's exercising the power of knowledge of who you are and what you do. You should definitely meet him. Tell him, "Your texts were inappropriate and offensive. You do not have the right to proposition me via text message when I'm obviously unavailable to you at that time. MAKE A FUCKING APPOINTMENT!"

 

I think you were too accommodating with your text messages. A response of "Yes, I'm wearing an orange shirt, but I'm out with friends now and am not available" would have been appropriate. Any further communications via text could have been responded to by saying, "Sorry, I'm off the clock. I'll touch base with you tomorrow." Repeated as often as necessary until dumb ass gets the message.

[+ poolboy48220]

Repeated as often as necessary until dumb ass gets the message.

Or sent once, then further text messages ignored. Maybe it's generational, maybe it's too much reading Miss Manners, but I'm not available to anyone 24/7. If I don't respond, I'm busy or with someone else, and will get back to you at my convenience.

[+ sam.fitzpatrick]

I think any interaction with him is going to be dangerous. Sounds like a guy would might agree to being the bottom until you are undressed and he decides to change things up and ensure he gets what he wants.

[Juan Vancouver]

Has this ever happened before to anyone else? How does one deal with this?

 

Yes and don't.

 

Yes, I have been contacted by people who clearly have no respect for the concrete answers he is receiving and who wants to push his own agenda even if I clearly stated I don't do what he wants. Yes, I have been contacted a few times by people who come across as rude, pushy, disrespectful, you name it. My secret in these kind of situations is simple: In a very polite tone I tell him that he sounds like a really nice guy but unfortunately we are not compatible. I reassure him that there will be many escorts who will gladly accept his terms and I wish him the best of luck contacting them. I politely and warmly wish him a good evening and end the interaction right there and then.

 

I do not -under any circumstance- deal with people like that.

 

All the horror stories of hookers bludgeoned to death, abused, scammed, stiffed, stalked and arrested happen right after an escort ignored his or her spidey senses and went ahead trying to please an asshole.

 

I sincerely recommend you never to engage with someone like this. Under any circumstance.

 

I think it would be wise to meet this guy.

 

Never.

 

Under any circumstance.

 

Do not engage.

 

It is possible that in the gentleman world getting to know your opponent might be some kind of an advantage. This is not a gentleman; this is a disrespectful drunkard who sees you as an interchangeable piece of ass with no life, value or purpose aside from pleasing him. I might sound very harsh, but in the way you describe your interaction he showed nothing but contempt and rudeness.

 

If it is true that he is a potential stalker (and I agree that this could be the case) then the only thing you can do is stop any and all form of contact. Do not engage. Do not respond. Do not show your outrage. Do not text, answer his calls, emails or social visits. Not now, not ever... and for God's sake, do not -ever- make an appointment to see him.

 

Stalkers and crazy people thrive on attention. They do what they do to have a relationship with you. A fight, a protracted terrorizing summer, a furious email exchange is all they want from you. If you are trapped in this dark cycle they have you in a relationship with them. If they have your attention they will never leave you alone.

 

If you want to stop a stalker in its tracks, especially before he starts going crazy, simply ignore him. Politely and kindly tell him that you are not a good match, and never engage again.

 

If I am repeating myself it's because I think this is very important. Your safety might be on the line.

 

I wish that this will end here and that you will never find yourself in this situation. Big hug, Zach.

[+ Gar1eth]

Yes and don't.

 

Yes, I have been contacted by people who clearly have no respect for the concrete answers he is receiving and who wants to push his own agenda even if I clearly stated I don't do what he wants. Yes, I have been contacted a few times by people who come across as rude, pushy, disrespectful, you name it. My secret in these kind of situations is simple: In a very polite tone I tell him that he sounds like a really nice guy but unfortunately we are not compatible. I reassure him that there will be many escorts who will gladly accept his terms and I wish him the best of luck contacting them. I politely and warmly wish him a good evening and end the interaction right there and then.

 

I do not -under any circumstance- deal with people like that.

 

All the horror stories of hookers bludgeoned to death, abused, scammed, stiffed, stalked and arrested happen right after an escort ignored his or her spidey senses and went ahead trying to please an asshole.

 

I sincerely recommend you never to engage with someone like this. Under any circumstance.

 

 

 

Never.

 

Under any circumstance.

 

Do not engage.

 

It is possible that in the gentleman world getting to know your opponent might be some kind of an advantage. This is not a gentleman; this is a disrespectful drunkard who sees you as an interchangeable piece of ass with no life, value or purpose aside from pleasing him. I might sound very harsh, but in the way you describe your interaction he showed nothing but contempt and rudeness.

 

If it is true that he is a potential stalker (and I agree that this could be the case) then the only thing you can do is stop any and all form of contact. Do not engage. Do not respond. Do not show your outrage. Do not text, answer his calls, emails or social visits. Not now, not ever... and for God's sake, do not -ever- make an appointment to see him.

 

Stalkers and crazy people thrive on attention. They do what they do to have a relationship with you. A fight, a protracted terrorizing summer, a furious email exchange is all they want from you. If you are trapped in this dark cycle they have you in a relationship with them. If they have your attention they will never leave you alone.

 

If you want to stop a stalker in its tracks, especially before he starts going crazy, simply ignore him. Politely and kindly tell him that you are not a good match, and never engage again.

 

If I am repeating myself it's because I think this is very important. Your safety might be on the line.

 

I wish that this will end here and that you will never find yourself in this situation. Big hug, Zach.

 

I agree with Juan totally. He may just have been frustrated and drunk at 2 AM. But you've told him you aren't sure you could provide him what he wants. Even if he is on the level, there is a good chance he would be disappointed in the meeting if you couldn't. If I were you, if he texts again I would ignore him. I would probably label his number in your Contacts in your phone something like 'DANGER' so you will immediately know it's him if he tries to text you again. Also I would keep all his texts. If he continues to bother you, you might have no recourse but the police and the texts could be evidence. The worst idea in the world would be to ever meet this guy even to tell him you aren't a good match. That would just encourage him.

 

 

Gman

[Tighty]

Do not meet that creep. And stop responding to his calls text. Block him.

[instudiocity]

Ok, Juan Vancouver, et. al., have a good point, except the creeper patronizes the same bars as your Mr. Zach. I'm still of the opinion that Zach needs to know what the creeper looks like. Maybe even get a cell phone photo of the guy so Zach can make his buds aware the creeper doesn't understand the meaning of NO. Having the creeper know not only Zach's haunts but Zach's good looks is a disadvantage to Zach who hasn't said he knows what the creeper looks like. Just saying, KNOW THINE ENEMY (or dangerous lout).