Is There a Tactful Way to Tell an Escort That He should Think About Another Career?

[jimboivyo]

What a charming young man.

 

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[Guest countryboywny]

Joey,

 

agreeance = agreement

truley = truely

[Juan Vancouver]

Hey Joey,

 

I think I should clarify my point, because I think I might have not been clear enough. Either that, or we are talking about entirely different things.

 

Moral of story: Just because the time YOU spent with so and so doesn't mean that escort won't do better with the next John Doe...Juan Vancouver already said it. Don't get mad at me because I'm in agreeance with him.

In reality, it doesn't mean shit what the fuck you have to say to an escort. What really matters is that escort's drive and determination to do better. As I always say, "let the words of discouragement serve as means of ENCOURAGEMENT".

 

About the original poster, I do not think nor hope that the escort will do better with a different client. I don't think he is in this to provide any kind of good service. What I have seen in the past is guys who -clearly knowing that they are incapable of offering anything slightly resembling of a good service- go into escorting with the only goal of presenting as a pitiful, sad, lost case, a helpless, disempowered -but ever so hopeful- kid with a heart of gold, knowing well that there are many rich men who are looking to take care of someone like that. They are in the business of getting handouts, given a home, being fed, put through school, given stuff. They are into the business of eliciting pity for financial gain.

 

"You see, Mister, I've been paying my very expensive ad for a year and you are my very, very first client... thats why I am nervous and can't give a fuck about your needs... but... I am such a good boy... could you please help me?"

 

I don't think this "escort" has any drive or determination to do any better. He wants to do the absolute minimum to get as much as he can.

 

Telling someone who is into this kind of game playing (with the purpose of cashing in on the pity) that they are not suited for escorting, that they should find a different job, that perhaps they should rethink their profession is nothing but a waste of time. Clearly they are making money from it. Even if the original poster didn't pony up, I am sure the "escort" has been making enough money to keep him renewing his ad. In this kind of scenario I still think the best thing to do is stop the session before it starts and run.

 

 

Now... if we are talking about real escorts, escorts who are there to provide a real service, escorts who understand the business and have a real vocation of service, then I think by all means you are not only allowed but you are encouraged to give feedback at all times. Your opinion as a client is not tolerated, your opinion is invaluable, as it is what allows a professional to know at all times how he is doing, what he is doing well and what can be done better.

 

The same applies to giving advice to a professional whether or not the client or prospective client has met the professional. Any feedback about the way the escort advertises, his pictures, his reviews, his public image should be a useful gauge of how the escort is doing and a pretty clear indication of how the escort will do in the future. Feedback like this is often every bit as valuable as the feedback one can receive from actual clients.

 

In conclusion:

 

Giving unsolicited advice to a scammer is an absolute waste of your precious time. Always.

 

Giving honest -even if brutal- feedback to a professional is the best thing you can do for him. He will always be grateful for that.

 

 

As for you, Joey, even if you -as you bravely confessed- have had your not so stellar moments, I have every bit of confidence that at any time you can rise up and give a stellar service if you put your mind to it. We are never victims to our past, but we sure are constantly dependant on out choices.

 

I wish you continued success, and I hope you'll keep them smiling!

[JoeyBryant]

Hey Joey,

 

I think I should clarify my point, because I think I might have not been clear enough. Either that, or we are talking about entirely different things.

 

I wish you continued success, and I hope you'll keep them smiling!

 

Ahhhh...thankyou for clarifying that. Somehow I missed that point completely. That is very true, and sounds pretty conniving. I can see the game now. Yeah, I do agree not everyone is cut out for it...but that's something that has to be sorted out ahead of time. I do feel for the clients who come across those types. You can't come into this business not wanting to actually connect with anyone

 

predjudice

 

You think that's funny? We'll see how funny the administrator thinks about that, because that is very distasteful. You could probably use some insight into where profanity really originated from in this country...hint, it wasn't from 'thugs'.

 

Joey,

 

agreeance = agreement

truley = truely

 

I guess your country grammar ain't so good after all huh?

 

truely=truly

 

Now stop nitpicking about stupid stuff. We're talking about something completely different, and you're worried about grammar.

[MiamiLooker]

Keep on doing what you're doing Joey and you will get the same results over and over and over.

 

You really should check out Joey’s latest Backpage ad:

http://ftlauderdale.backpage.com/MaleEscorts/masculine-gay-jock-for-your-1-on-1-man4man-desires-26/24156114

After listing his rates he states:

"I know you can't afford to take a pay cut, neither can I. For best results, please honor what's listed.

 

Peer deals for (nice) guys ages 23-30."

So, special rates if you're 30 or under, but don't attempt to negotiate if you're over 30. Not a very good idea for a “professional” to place an ad like this.

[JoeyBryant]

You really should check out Joey’s latest Backpage ad:

http://ftlauderdale.backpage.com/MaleEscorts/masculine-gay-jock-for-your-1-on-1-man4man-desires-26/24156114

After listing his rates he states:

"I know you can't afford to take a pay cut, neither can I. For best results, please honor what's listed.

 

Peer deals for (nice) guys ages 23-30."

So, special rates if you're 30 or under, but don't attempt to negotiate if you're over 30. Not a very good idea for a “professional” to place an ad like this.

 

What does that have to do with anything?

 

The reason why I say that is because occasionally I'll get someone suggesting I charge something that someone else is charging. When I explain to them why I don't wish to charge a certain amount, they are generally more understanding. Plus, they are able to SEE and I can SHOW them why, which gives them even greater incentive to do so.

 

As for offering something different for guys under 30? It's because I have received and welcome guys who may not have the disposable income that someone in an older bracket may have. It's suited me just fine and I seen quite a few younger guys over the last couple weeks or so.

 

The very same day I worded my ad in the way, I got a client who gave me what was listed, PLUS a little extra after. I felt I was trying too hard to 'compete' with lower rates, but found that asking for what I felt was fair actually worked in my favor. You get what you ask for. And I wasn't doing that. I think customers are willing to give a little extra for something that can cater better to their needs. And plus sometimes, you just have to be real with people. When someone calls me asking for less than what I am asking for, that's a paycut. It's going to hurt me just as it would hurt them. And sometimes things have to be worded in such a way where people see it as that. They understand that. The people who will be put off from it, are the ones who SHOULD be put off by it.

 

When someone I never met negotiates (for 1 hour), what does that tell me? They've already taken it upon themselves to cut my pay, when they haven't even met me yet. It's like calling a car dealership and asking for a negotiation when you haven't even seen the car. You haven't even test driven it! Nobody does that, its no different for us!

 

But...I agree with you on the peer deals thing. I guess I was a little too excited over the amazingly hot younger boys that came to see me the other week after working out an arrangement with them. Actually, 1 of them I didn't even have to do that for. Still, I may consider removing that from my ad.

 

Now...don't make this all about me. I'm not going to disrespect the OP of this thread by allowing some of you to pull me into another debate. I know it's fun and entertaining, but let's respect someone elses thread for once.

[Guy Fawkes]

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[Guest countryboywny]

I guess your country grammar ain't so good after all huh?

 

truely=truly

 

Now stop nitpicking about stupid stuff. We're talking about something completely different, and you're worried about grammar.

 

I stand correktud.

[Bosguy]

I stand correktud.

 

A few words say so much.

 

Boston Bill