I can't take it anymore. I'm just tired of talking about the same thing over and over

[+ poolboy48220]

There are times where I feel just like Joey does, times where working in my field frustrates me beyond belief. But I've been in it 30 years (and had some good times, it hasn't been STEADY misery), I have a lot of experience and make a good salary. If I were to change tracks and go follow my dreams, I'd take a significant financial hit. Even if it were something I were good at, I'd have nowhere near the proven resume experience that I do in my current field.

 

Times like that, I think of the end of "Office Space" - "Everybody hates their job. But people find something outside their work that makes them happy".

[instudiocity]

tell tale that the op never came back to say much of anything especially after being the personality type to want to have the last word

 

any predictions as to how long the explosive reply might take?

Wasn't this thread the explosive reply (rant?) to his earlier thread started last week?

 

Typical Joey, starts an incontrovertible thread then gets called out on his controverible and negative posts, rants into a new thread with the last minute 'can't take it', then disappears while good, honest, caring forum members seek to comfort and advise him.

 

Funny, he doesn't want comfort and advice. He wants our attention, sympathy and maybe some of our cash, all on his terms.

[JoeyBryant]

Wow, I go away for a few days and there's a ton of responses. Maybe I should try the same on my ad. Seems being nice andf informative doesn't sell. You have to speak with an iron fist. I didn't even think anyone would even respond. I'm going to answer the negative comments first.

 

This!

 

Joey, I do believe that retiring from escorting is the best path forward for you as you are not cut out for this type of work. It's never going to be lucrative for you. I gave you the same advice 18-24 months ago. Dude, you're just spinning your wheels. Time to move on to something that better suits your personality.

 

All the best in your future endeavors.

 

Dude, you're assuming that it's not lucrative for me. Where did I say that it wasn't dude? No where in my post did I say anything about a lack of money dude. There's people who work in very good jobs and voice their need for changes too dude. You can't seem to differentiate between the 2....

 

You're so worried about how much I'm making, you're just a hater dude.

 

Joey i think you should continue to complain just as much as you want. Hopefully you leave your complaints here and take a smiling face with you to your clients. However, if you do take your complaints with you, you wont have to retire you will just go out of business.

 

Most businesses go under after 5 years. Guess how long I've been at it? So what you're saying doesn't frighten me. Besides, America isn't the only country. So the hell if I went out of business in this country. They already trying to shut it down in many states as it is, and continually criminalize it in 1 city after the next despite both Canada and Mexico legalizing it. Besides, you never even hired me so you wouldn't even know how I go about seeing my clients. You're under the impression that just because I am voicing a need for change in the business, I'm complaining. I don't understand why you're so offended and feel the need to attack me for that.

[JoeyBryant]

Joey, not sure you have done this before but perhaps it is time to take a hiatus and find something else to do for a while, giving you some time to recharge and reassess the whole escorting thing.

 

I agree. But, also what I am considering is perhaps not traveling and just sticking with my local base...as a majority of the issues tend to arise when traveling...despite it also tending to be equally lucrative.

 

It used to be, maybe about 2-3 years ago...I could travel and I would have to make email folders to remind myself of every client who emailed me in the area I was going to....mostly all from men4rent. I would leave having contacted everyone on the list, and met all except 1 or 2. Now it's like only 1 or 2 who are being checked off.

 

Joey: 2 questions for you to ponder in your private moments:

 

1) How is escorting a good use of your life?

2) How do you imagine your life 3-5 years from now?

 

What does that have to do with people not living up to their commitment? This is not about me. It's about educating people on how to succesfully make an appointment without driving their escort bananas. That's the core issue here. I already know where I want to be in 3-5 years.

[JoeyBryant]

Sup Joey, unlike some of the other sanctimonious replies you've gotten to this thread, I personally want to thank you for sharing your frustrations in this public forum. It allows people like myself and others to get a glimpse of what goes on in the "real world" of male escorts. It's often not very glamorous nor fulfilling, but with the right mix of clients and situations, it can be what you make of it.

 

I would never question an escort's commitment after he's clearly shown his willingness to put up with the things that many of you won't!

 

My point exactly. What people see, is the escort and nothing else. And yes, I understand people want to create a fantasy of the escort...but, it's a slippery situation when they think the escort is JUST a fantasy and not a being or moreso...a BUSINESS. And that's the issue. I feel guys are too often seeing this as a fantasy rather than a business where you need to conduct yourself in a proper manner. You may go window shopping at a store, but you don't call Pizza hut, order 5 large pizzas and have them drive out and then cancel while the driver is in route...on PURPOSE. Unless you're an idiot.

 

Joey has the right to vent, as I mentioned. But I wish he were doing it anonymously, like "Max" did earlier this year. That way, it wouldn't cost him clients.

 

Trust me, it's not costing me clients. I meet clients from the forum ALL THE TIME. See that's the thing people need to understand. I'm not talking about clients. I'm talking about people who haven't even made it to a face to face meeting. The real clients shouldn't be put off, because if they don't operate in the fashion I'm harping on, it won't apply to them.

[JoeyBryant]

That's it! I can't take it anymore either.

You have changed cities 2-3 times because the one you're in doesn't work. I have news for you. Your attitude doesn't work. You lived in my city for at least a year. You're dealing with the same BS that all the other escorts are dealing with. And they seem to be making a good go out of it. Kevin

 

Guess what? Can't take it? suck it up and stop bitching about me bitching! Problem solved!

 

Let me tell you why I changed cities. It had nothing to do with it 'not working'. It was personal decision and I had a place here that was available to buy, and I enjoy being able to relocate every 2-3 years. San Antonio didn't even have much to offer. The wages there are incredibly low and they have a big drug/drunk driving problem in the gay community. I was glad to leave, I should have never stayed beyond an occasional vacation, but at the time I needed an inexpensive place to reside as I was still starting out.

 

You can't even say that last sentence. You don't know what personal issues a person may be facing. I've spoken with many escorts who are no longer on the map due to the same issues I mentioned. They just don't talk about it. They drown their issues in drugs, hard partying, and simply exiting the business. Or they don't talk about it at all, because there's no safe outlet to do it. Be thankful I'm giving clients the oppurtunity to learn.

 

Sometimes we even seek or share useful advice. But we make damned sure to do this way out of earshot of any current or potential customers.

 

And if any of us were to go on LinkedIn and vent such thoughts in front of one and all -- customers, prospects, the wide world -- that person would not have a business tomorrow.

 

I understand that. But I never discuss this stuff with clients in person. There's no time...Don't know the specifics of linkedin, but with this forum we should take this not as 'gripes' but ways clients can understand and perhaps amend the way of setting appointments. If no one ever says anything, how would they know they are not doing it properly? I can't seem the harm in drawing lines and putting it out there that some things aren't acceptable.

 

And those escorts, many participating in these forums, clearly do not consider such men part of the "crap" of escorting. The very fact that you make the reference should stand as clear evidence to Mr. Bryant that he should indeed leave the business.

 

What in the fuckworld does that have to do with me? I didn't say ANYTHING about anyone being fat. That was someone else. That is not the crap part of escorting for me. The crap part is the bullshit I mentioned in my original post. I don't care about weight...as long as you show up or allow enough time for me to show up.

[JoeyBryant]

Joey, it sounds like you have done just that. Supplied the information about what you have to offer, and many don't like it. Unfortunately, the escorting business has a different curve. I still get paid if clients don't like what I said, or they don't show. In a big way, the economics is different in your world. Good luck finding a balance.

 

Bingo. You hit the nail on the head. If I was still getting paid...I'd be okay. But when people bullshit me I don't get paid, and that's where the issue lies. Plus, I'm working and paying and not getting paid. Wouldnt you be mad too? I have every reason to fly off the handle. Don't play with me when I'm spending my money to make something happen that YOU intiated (not you, but others). That boils me up big time. When I'm traveling, my tolerance level for it is at ground 0. At home, it can happen all day. I have my boyfriend, my friends, AND my regulars who will come regardless.

 

The fact is that we now live in an INSANT and NOW society. More and more clients have a main plan and 3 back up plans for a certain night.

 

I wonder if that is just the American way? I think it is. And I've said it before. As great as this country seems, there is TOO MUCH of the same thing here. That has casued issues for me in dating and escorting. Men treat others like disposable playtoys. Quick, fast, cheap, easy. Anything more gets tossed aside for the next penis. I'm starting to think escorting isn't the issue. It's this country. I guess I don't like the American way LOL.

 

He wants our attention, sympathy and maybe some of our cash, all on his terms.

 

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[Glenn1441]

Guess what? Can't take it? suck it up and stop bitching about me bitching! Problem solved!

 

Let me tell you why I changed cities. It had nothing to do with it 'not working'. It was personal decision and I had a place here that was available to buy, and I enjoy being able to relocate every 2-3 years. San Antonio didn't even have much to offer. The wages there are incredibly low and they have a big drug/drunk driving problem in the gay community. I was glad to leave, I should have never stayed beyond an occasional vacation, but at the time I needed an inexpensive place to reside as I was still starting out.

 

You can't even say that last sentence. You don't know what personal issues a person may be facing. I've spoken with many escorts who are no longer on the map due to the same issues I mentioned. They just don't talk about it. They drown their issues in drugs, hard partying, and simply exiting the business. Or they don't talk about it at all, because there's no safe outlet to do it. Be thankful I'm giving clients the oppurtunity to learn.

 

 

 

I understand that. But I never discuss this stuff with clients in person. There's no time...Don't know the specifics of linkedin, but with this forum we should take this not as 'gripes' but ways clients can understand and perhaps amend the way of setting appointments. If no one ever says anything, how would they know they are not doing it properly? I can't seem the harm in drawing lines and putting it out there that some things aren't acceptable.

 

 

 

What in the fuckworld does that have to do with me? I didn't say ANYTHING about anyone being fat. That was someone else. That is not the crap part of escorting for me. The crap part is the bullshit I mentioned in my original post. I don't care about weight...as long as you show up or allow enough time for me to show up.

 

Has nothing to do with you, but rather, is in response to the following comment, #18, posted by BallerBoy:

 

Sup Joey, unlike some of the other sanctimonious replies you've gotten to this thread, I personally want to thank you for sharing your frustrations in this public forum. It allows people like myself and others to get a glimpse of what goes on in the "real world" of male escorts. It's often not very glamorous nor fulfilling, but with the right mix of clients and situations, it can be what you make of it. I just visited your site and I'm very impressed with the level of professionalism and effort you've placed into your work (and you're very sexy btw ). I wish you were near my city. Your professionalism would be both appreciated and rewarded.

 

As for those criticizing Joey's "attitude". Let me suggest that ALL the proper attitude in the world will not end the frustrations of dealing with a client's 1. Cancellations 2. Poor hygiene 3. Time wasting 4. No shows 5. Fat/Old attractive bodies.

 

I would never question an escort's commitment after he's clearly shown his willingness to put up with the things that many of you won't!

[JoeyBryant]

Has nothing to do with you, but rather, is in response to the following comment, #18, posted by BallerBoy:

 

I know, but you then said:

The very fact that you make the reference should stand as clear evidence to Mr. Bryant that he should indeed leave the business.

[Glenn1441]

I know, but you then said:

As regards BallerBoy putting words in your mouth.

[JoeyBryant]

As regards BallerBoy putting words in your mouth.

 

No one put words in my mouth...you typed that up yourself. And I needed to address that I didn't call anyone fat.

[instudiocity]

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And Bitches gonna bitch!

 

I've never known a successful professional who had time to bitch about his business. I have to believe if you've got this much time to be on the rag, you've not been financially successful.

 

It's all a ratio dude. Either you're too busy to complain or you're comparing because you're not busy. Which is it??? Inquiring minds wanna know.

[JoeyBryant]

And Bitches gonna bitch!

 

I've never known a successful professional who had time to bitch about his business. I have to believe if you've got this much time to be on the rag, you've not been financially successful.

 

It's all a ratio dude. Either your too busy to complain or you're comparing because you're not busy. Which is it??? Inquiring minds wanna know.

 

Well stop bitching about me bitching, bitch...

 

First of all, why are you so interested in what I have going on for my business? That's non of your business. And FYI, The reason I have so much time is because my internet bill is paid along with my phone bill (that I paid with my success) and I'm not a coward to run away just because some people like YOU don't agree that certain behaviors (or lack thereof) is not acceptable when booking an escort.

 

Trying to use whether or not I'm busy as some kind of probing tool is not going to work with me. There's alot of factors involved, some that you'll never understand.

[instudiocity]

Well stop bitching about me bitching, bitch...

 

First of all, why are you so interested in what I have going on for my business? That's non of your business. And FYI, The reason I have so much time is because my internet bill is paid along with my phone bill (that I paid with my success) and I'm not a coward to run away just because some people like YOU don't agree that certain behaviors (or lack thereof) is not acceptable when booking an escort.

 

Trying to use whether or not I'm busy as some kind of probing tool is not going to work with me. There's alot of factors involved, some that you'll never understand.

Me thinks you protest too much....

 

And no, there's no way in hell I'd hire you, from your incessant raging about client behavior to your horrible English usage and grammar, there's no way I'd expose myself to you, in person, naked. No one is safe from criticism in the realm of the Joey.

[JoeyBryant]

Me thinks you protest too much....

 

And no, there's no way in hell I'd hire you, from your incessant raging about client behavior to your horrible English usage and grammar, there's no way I'd expose myself to you, in person, naked. No one is safe from criticism in the realm of the Joey.

 

Me thinks, you need to make a $25 deposit to cover the chat fee I charge, for anyone who wants to engage in incessant back and forth conversations.

 

It's unfair to other clients that you're getting a free consultation...And please, don't hire me. I'm not in the business of placating.

[MiamiLooker]

I'm starting to think escorting isn't the issue. It's this country.

 

At least you've narrowed it down.

[BallerBoy]

Well stop bitching about me bitching, bitch....

 

LMAO! Joey, I like your feistiness. You don' t back down from the angry mobs with pitch forks. But be careful not to get sucked into a classless pit with some of your detractors.

[Griffin Donavon]

Joey,

I think you are a good guy, you should start making self-improvement goals of your inner-self. I understand the frustration, all of us escorts deal with it.. Even clients deal with it also, it's part of the Job description.. When I toured for 6 months straight, there were times when dealing with the inquiry's that was wasting my time I'd go insane.. So I would take a few days off, sometimes ill take a month off and focus on other project's.

 

Joey I've given you a hard time about this before, however I show you compassion and hope the best for you if you don't continue escorting.

[Guest Starbuck]

Reading this thread is like spending time in Congress ... a lot of talking, too little listening, everyone trying for the last word.

[jimboivyo]

its clear that the op isn't listening to anyone other than himself anyway. it's verbal jacking off at this point. speaking to hear ones self speak

 

why come here and start such a thread? i reckon that I just don't get it

[instudiocity]

its clear that the op isn't listening to anyone other than himself anyway. it's verbal jacking off at this point. speaking to hear ones self speak

 

why come here and start such a thread? i reckon that I just don't get it

In the words of Country Comedian Ron White, "You just can't fix STUPID!"

 

Even better, "To continue doing the same things over and over again expecting different results is the first sign of insanity."

 

Yeah, I just called myself insanely stupid for listening to, even replying to this spoiled brat.

[EZEtoGRU]

Gotta love these Joey meltdown threads. There's usually 1-2 per year. Good entertainment if nothing else.

[+ Funguy]

In all his years here, has anybody here ever met Joey? Has anyone ever written a review of Joey? I can't seem to find any reviews to see what his clients have to say. Am I mistaken?

[Scorpio]

Yeah, I just called myself insanely stupid for listening to the is spoiled brat.

 

Well at least you recognize it, so there's hope for you. Some people are unwilling, if not incapable, recognizing their faults.

 

 

In all his years here, has anybody here ever met Joey? Has anyone ever written a review of Joey? I can't seem to find any reviews to see what his clients have to say. Am I mistaken?

 

While I can't imagine why any one would, some have indeed done so:

 

http://www.daddysreviews.com/venue/usa/colorado/joey_bryant_denver

[Guest Starbuck]

In all his years here, has anybody here ever met Joey? Has anyone ever written a review of Joey? I can't seem to find any reviews to see what his clients have to say. Am I mistaken?

 

There are reviews. Check under "Bryant" in Denver.