I can't take it anymore. I'm just tired of talking about the same thing over and over

[JoeyBryant]

I don't know what has gotten into people these last couple months or so, but I'm just like enough is enough.

 

People keep booking these appointments, as if they don't know basic courtesy and common sense. I have put up a website to try and make things more simplified, and people still doing the same thing.

 

Already I have lost 4 appointments. That's too much resources to be giving up when you are putting out money to make these things happen. Paying for these stupid ads all the time, this, that and the 3rd, hotels and shit.

 

It's like, what does it take for people to do things the right way? For example, a person sends an email and text this morning. OK great, but he wants to book that morning. OK, God forbid he just seen the ad that morning...but I doubt it. I'm sure most of our clients know when they have a meeting for their job in the morning, what's the issue with being able to have the same sort of notice for me? I missed the meeting, which equates to a delayed payment. And I could have taken it had I been given more notice. But I sat in my hotel all day yesterday without a clue in the world. So what did I do? I made other plans.

 

People just want to let me know stuff at the last minute, and I can't get anything done that way. And then not only that, but let me know at the last minute when they only have a small window of time to work with. It's like come on. Treat me with a little respect and courtesy. Some people make things more challenging than they really need to be, by not doing things properly. If someone is coming in from out of town, THINK. Think about the time they need to get places, think about how maybe they need to know shit ahead of time, etc. In the past, I had an issue because people kept contacting me the day I arrive, but the last minute expecting me to be there by a certain time...when they didn't even bother contacting me ahead of time to find out what time I would actually arrive and try to come to some sort of compromise.

 

And then, let's talk about rates because I don't even know anymore. I have to listen all day long to how my rates are too much, well what the heck am I supposed to do? Everyone else is charging $200. So I'm just going to drop it well below everyone else? I mean, don't get me wrong I'm not trying to call clients cheap or say I don't appreciate what they give me, but it's like why do I have to be made to feel like I'm overpriced and can't get the rate I need? I spend more than $200 to see THEM. And you tell me they can't even spend that amount to see me? Come on. I'm probably broker than most every client who hires me, but I have to lower my rates when I'm putting out more than that.

 

Then of course you have the cancellations and no shows...they just pour in. Already it's been 3. It's like come on. You've been asking me to come here for weeks and months, and then you flake out on me. Great. Why bother.

 

I kind of feel like a retirement is looming in the near future, I just have to get my finances in order and pull out some backup plans. If anything, I may only see my favorite regulars. If anyone wants to fight and argue and call me names, its whatever. But in order for me to shutup, either things need to change or I just need to leave. And I think its time for me to take action, because obviously things don't seem to be changing.

[Diverdan]

Hey Joey,

I have never met you, but I sure feel bad that you are continuing to have so many problems and issues with this profession of yours. As someone with a lot of gray hair and many years under his belt, may I suggest that you look for a different profession? I have made many career changes in my life and every time I made them, I had some fear and concern, but they always worked out in the end, and I asked myself why I didn't make those changes earlier. Your recent posts have indicated a lot of anger and some depression and that is not good for anyone. So maybe it is time to move on with your life, celebrate the regulars you have and enjoy them and forget all the unhappiness you have experienced with folks who have not appreciated you. Maybe some of the other escorts here on the Forum can give you their advise too, but as one who has changed jobs many times in his life, I have to say that each time I changed, it turned out to be wonderful and I have no regrets. Life is beautiful and wonderful, and I wish only that experience for you.

DD

[+ FreshFluff]

Hey Joey,

I have never met you, but I sure feel bad that you are continuing to have so many problems and issues with this profession of yours. As someone with a lot of gray hair and many years under his belt, may I suggest that you look for a different profession? I have made many career changes in my life and every time I made them, I had some fear and concern, but they always worked out in the end, and I asked myself why I didn't make those changes earlier. Your recent posts have indicated a lot of anger and some depression and that is not good for anyone. So maybe it is time to move on with your life, celebrate the regulars you have and enjoy them and forget all the unhappiness you have experienced with folks who have not appreciated you. Maybe some of the other escorts here on the Forum can give you their advise too, but as one who has changed jobs many times in his life, I have to say that each time I changed, it turned out to be wonderful and I have no regrets. Life is beautiful and wonderful, and I wish only that experience for you.

DD

 

I think some people just need to vent more than others.

 

In my first few years as a professor, I was constantly angry at the students for not listening, needing to be told everything multiple times, broke my rules and expected to avoid penalties, etc. I vented about it to others too. In one year, I actually took it out on my students, which was really harmful to my ratings.

 

I finally learned to let it go and accepted that this is just the way students are.Last year, I finally learned that as soon as I walk into the classroom, I need to have a smile on my face and switch myself into happy mode. After a few minutes, I'm able to do iti--even with my difficult morning section.

 

Also, remember that most fields have message boards in which they can vent anonymously--greedy associates for young lawyers, for example.

[instudiocity]

Some people make things more challenging than they really need to be, by not doing things properly.

By jove, I believe you have struck the proverbial nail on it's proverbial head...

[kevininsa]

That's it! I can't take it anymore either.

 

Joey, I have listened to you bitch about stuff for the last 3-4 years. Sure, it's fine to vent sometimes, but your glass is always half-empty. You have changed cities 2-3 times because the one you're in doesn't work. I have news for you. Your attitude doesn't work. You lived in my city for at least a year. I thought you were an attractive possibility. But then I read some of your posts. Has it occurred to you that just maybe you could be turning some of these guys off in your communications? I could be wrong, but this is definitely the impression you have given me. Get a positive attitude! You're dealing with the same BS that all the other escorts are dealing with. And they seem to be making a good go out of it. The only difference is that I think you are somehow conveying the negativity. DiverDan suggested moving on. I really don't know if that would help unless the attitude moves on as well.

 

Good Luck!

Kevin

[jimboivyo]

I don't know what has gotten into people these last couple months or so, but I'm just like enough is enough.

 

People keep booking these appointments, as if they don't know basic courtesy and common sense. I have put up a website to try and make things more simplified, and people still doing the same thing.

 

Already I have lost 4 appointments. That's too much resources to be giving up when you are putting out money to make these things happen. Paying for these stupid ads all the time, this, that and the 3rd, hotels and shit.

 

It's like, what does it take for people to do things the right way? For example, a person sends an email and text this morning. OK great, but he wants to book that morning. OK, God forbid he just seen the ad that morning...but I doubt it. I'm sure most of our clients know when they have a meeting for their job in the morning, what's the issue with being able to have the same sort of notice for me? I missed the meeting, which equates to a delayed payment. And I could have taken it had I been given more notice. But I sat in my hotel all day yesterday without a clue in the world. So what did I do? I made other plans.

 

People just want to let me know stuff at the last minute, and I can't get anything done that way. And then not only that, but let me know at the last minute when they only have a small window of time to work with. It's like come on. Treat me with a little respect and courtesy. Some people make things more challenging than they really need to be, by not doing things properly. If someone is coming in from out of town, THINK. Think about the time they need to get places, think about how maybe they need to know shit ahead of time, etc. In the past, I had an issue because people kept contacting me the day I arrive, but the last minute expecting me to be there by a certain time...when they didn't even bother contacting me ahead of time to find out what time I would actually arrive and try to come to some sort of compromise.

 

And then, let's talk about rates because I don't even know anymore. I have to listen all day long to how my rates are too much, well what the heck am I supposed to do? Everyone else is charging $200. So I'm just going to drop it well below everyone else? I mean, don't get me wrong I'm not trying to call clients cheap or say I don't appreciate what they give me, but it's like why do I have to be made to feel like I'm overpriced and can't get the rate I need? I spend more than $200 to see THEM. And you tell me they can't even spend that amount to see me? Come on. I'm probably broker than most every client who hires me, but I have to lower my rates when I'm putting out more than that.

 

Then of course you have the cancellations and no shows...they just pour in. Already it's been 3. It's like come on. You've been asking me to come here for weeks and months, and then you flake out on me. Great. Why bother.

 

I kind of feel like a retirement is looming in the near future, I just have to get my finances in order and pull out some backup plans. If anything, I may only see my favorite regulars. If anyone wants to fight and argue and call me names, its whatever. But in order for me to shutup, either things need to change or I just need to leave. And I think its time for me to take action, because obviously things don't seem to be changing.

 

dude if you can't hack it in this biz and folks cancel on you left and right, retire and look for a real career. you're not a likely escort and the chip on your shoulder is too big for most folks to ignore.

 

just do something soon for christ sakes. your venting is annoying and unprofessional and doesn't make you any more marketable to those here.

[whipped guy]

I am not in your business by any stretch of the imagination, and actually it might even be a much tougher business when it comes to dealing with personalities. Accordingly, some of the same parameters do apply... and consequently I have experienced many of the exact same problems of which you speak... and for many years... actually decades. So all I can say is welcome to the real world. I have been living in that real world and with experience one gets to learn how to deal with people and how a certain percentage of clients will always test your patience and often in more ways than one. I have learned to cope with such a segment of the population... and out of necessity... either that or I don't eat.

 

As the saying goes... If you can't take the heat... Well, speaking of heat, heck even if you decide to flip burgers at McDonalds you will have to deal with heat... Actually, all professions have their downsides... and unless you plan to work in a vacuum you will always be dealing with people... perhaps not at as intense a level... but you still will be involved with the multiplicity of personality types out there... Bottom line: absolutely nothing is ever easy. Nobody ever gave me any sympathy... Never... Ever... So none from here.

 

We all need to vent... That's only human. However, one needs to make a rational assessment of the situation as it best applies to your ultimate needs and goals. Now either get back on the horse or move out of Dodge... Hopefully, you will step back a bit, reassess the situation, and ask yourself a series of questions that will lead you to the correct decision. Hopefully you will make that correct decision based on sound judgment as opposed to raw emotion.

[EZEtoGRU]

I kind of feel like a retirement is looming in the near future

This!

 

Joey, I do believe that retiring from escorting is the best path forward for you as you are not cut out for this type of work. It's never going to be lucrative for you. I gave you the same advice 18-24 months ago. Dude, you're just spinning your wheels. Time to move on to something that better suits your personality.

 

All the best in your future endeavors.

[+ purplekow]

Joey i think you should continue to complain just as much as you want. Hopefully you leave your complaints here and take a smiling face with you to your clients. However, if you do take your complaints with you, you wont have to retire you will just go out of business.

[gallahadesquire]

I have what I think is the unasked question:

 

Joey, what did you think this business was going to be like?

 

Signing off for now.

[robberbaron4u]

Courtesy in the conduct of professional and personal, that is, social, life, has gone the way of the calling card and the silver salver on the hall chest to receive it.

[adriano46]

Courtesy in the conduct of professional and personal, that is, social, life, has gone the way of the calling card and the silver salver on the hall chest to receive it.

 

+1

[jgoo]

Joey, not sure you have done this before but perhaps it is time to take a hiatus and find something else to do for a while, giving you some time to recharge and reassess the whole escorting thing. Perhaps six months or a year would be a good amount of time for you at this point but you need to, in my view, take a break. As gallahad alluded to, perhaps your expectations and the realities of the biz need to be realigned and some time off may allow you to do that.

[+ Topseed]

Joey: 2 questions for you to ponder in your private moments:

 

1) How is escorting a good use of your life?

2) How do you imagine your life 3-5 years from now?

[gallahadesquire]

Courtesy in the conduct of professional and personal, that is, social, life, has gone the way of the calling card and the silver salver on the hall chest to receive it.

 

More's the pity. I may go back to elbow length gloves for typing.

[Guest countryboywny]

Courtesy in the conduct of professional and personal, that is, social, life, has gone the way of the calling card and the silver salver on the hall chest to receive it.

 

Thank you, Robberbaron. We should all strive to be courteous and considerate in our daily lives. The ME-ME-ME attitude that pervades our current society is creating a selfish, unhappy community, I think. Common courtesy, a friendly smile, a little empathy goes a long way.

[imrthr]

snip -

 

Common courtesy, a friendly smile, a little empathy goes a long way.

-

 

"Common" courtesy is not "common" - it is the exception -

 

Quite simply, some people are set out for a particular profession, while others are not -

-

[BallerBoy]

Sup Joey, unlike some of the other sanctimonious replies you've gotten to this thread, I personally want to thank you for sharing your frustrations in this public forum. It allows people like myself and others to get a glimpse of what goes on in the "real world" of male escorts. It's often not very glamorous nor fulfilling, but with the right mix of clients and situations, it can be what you make of it. I just visited your site and I'm very impressed with the level of professionalism and effort you've placed into your work (and you're very sexy btw ). I wish you were near my city. Your professionalism would be both appreciated and rewarded.

 

As for those criticizing Joey's "attitude". Let me suggest that ALL the proper attitude in the world will not end the frustrations of dealing with a client's 1. Cancellations 2. Poor hygiene 3. Time wasting 4. No shows 5. Fat/Old attractive bodies.

 

I would never question an escort's commitment after he's clearly shown his willingness to put up with the things that many of you won't!

[+ FreshFluff]

Sup Joey, unlike some of the other sanctimonious replies you've gotten to this thread, I personally want to thank you for sharing your frustrations in this public forum. It allows people like myself and others to get a glimpse of what goes on in the "real world" of male escorts. It's often not very glamorous nor fulfilling, but with the right mix of clients and situations, it can be what you make of it. I just visited your site and I'm very impressed with the level of professionalism and effort you've placed into your work (and you're very sexy btw ). I wish you were near my city. Your professionalism would be both appreciated and rewarded.

 

Joey has the right to vent, as I mentioned. But I wish he were doing it anonymously, like "Max" did earlier this year. That way, it wouldn't cost him clients.

[EastbayMike]

That's it! I can't take it anymore either.

 

Joey, I have listened to you bitch about stuff for the last 3-4 years. Sure, it's fine to vent sometimes, but your glass is always half-empty. You have changed cities 2-3 times because the one you're in doesn't work. I have news for you. Your attitude doesn't work. You lived in my city for at least a year. I thought you were an attractive possibility. But then I read some of your posts. Has it occurred to you that just maybe you could be turning some of these guys off in your communications? I could be wrong, but this is definitely the impression you have given me. Get a positive attitude! You're dealing with the same BS that all the other escorts are dealing with. And they seem to be making a good go out of it. The only difference is that I think you are somehow conveying the negativity. DiverDan suggested moving on. I really don't know if that would help unless the attitude moves on as well.

 

Good Luck!

Kevin

 

 

 

+1

[Scorpio]

Joey has the right to vent, as I mentioned. But I wish he were doing it anonymously, like "Max" did earlier this year. That way, it wouldn't cost him clients.

 

He tried that but he wasn't successful at disguising himself. Surely you remember "Mocha". It was like stereo!

[N13]

5. Fat/Old attractive bodies.

 

If it wasn't for the "Fat/Old .... bodies" most escorts would be out of work! Judge much??

[Atlantagaguy]

5. Fat/Old attractive bodies.

 

If it wasn't for the "Fat/Old .... bodies" most escorts would be out of work! Judge much??

 

Kind of hurt my feeling on the Fat/Old Comment

[+ FreshFluff]

He tried that but he wasn't successful at disguising himself. Surely you remember "Mocha". It was like stereo!

 

I was going to mention that. I think he'd need to try another forum to make it work at this point.

[BgMstr4u]

Joey: I hear you. I understand.. I think you need to ask yourself why you are doing something you don't like. Dentists have to deal with people who don't take their advice about tooth care. Doctors have to deal with diabetics who continue to load up on sugar. Teachers have to deal with students who don't do their homework. Plumbers have to deal with people who flush the most godawful crap down their drains. It's part of life. If you can't or don't want to deal with the negativities in your profession, then change jobs. I know a woman who was a terrible elementary teacher who changed jobs and was a brilliant banker. But to get there she had to come to terms with the fact that she couldn't do well what she initially wanted to do. That was hard. My advice to you is either accept the reality of your work and manage it so that it works for you and for your clients, so that all, including you, go away from their time with you with a smile and a lighter step, or do something else. The last thing I want from an escort is attitude. I want him smiling and glad to see me and focused on making me happy. Escorting is more than three parts show biz, after all. You will get from it what you give it. And the contact work, as frustratng as it can be, is a big part -- maybe the biggest part -- of your work, because that is how people form their impressions of you.

 

To the poster above who put down fat/old people: Well, someday I hope you too may find yourself on the other side of middle age. The body is not always a cooperative instrument. Get a grip on reality. Who are the people who want escorts, after all, and why? Maybe its because God did not give them the body they want, or the ruthless self discipline to achieve physical perfection when it has become difficult to do so. They (we) are the market here guys! Get real. And have some compassion.

 

Speaking of which, Joey. It is no shameful thing to discover that you need to change paths in life. More power to you if that is what you decide. I think we all want the best for you and all the other brave lads who put themselves out for us.