DC ESCORTS ON ALERT: Anyone heard?

[JoeyBryant]

Just wondering if anyone knows, perhaps what sites may have been targetted?

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/60-picked-up-in-prostitution-sweep-in-dc/2013/10/13/2a6fbac2-3457-11e3-80c6-7e6dd8d22d8f_story.html

 

Sixty people, including both men and women, were arrested over the weekend in the downtown Washington area in connection with “prostitution-related crimes,” the D.C. police said.

 

Police said the incidents inivolved included “basic street-level” offenses, as well as “internet and hotel prostitution” in Northwest Washington.

 

Names, locations and specific charges were not available immediately.

 

Police said early Sunday that the arrests had been made over a 36-hour period as part of a program called “Operation Off the Streets.”

[shadowcatzxxx]

I don't know how to repost this in the Deli, but think it might be a good idea to do so ... so that more people -- clients and escorts both -- see it.

 

I'm heading to DC in a couple of days, and am suddenly uncertain about whether I should change my hiring plans. I'm sticking with known and well-reviewed guys, but without knowing any more details about what happened there, don't know who might be at risk.

[Guest Starbuck]

I'm heading to DC in a couple of days, and am suddenly uncertain about whether I should change my hiring plans. I'm sticking with known and well-reviewed guys, but without knowing any more details about what happened there, don't know who might be at risk.

 

Would be great to get more info/perspective on this from some of the well-respected working guys in DC. There's always the chance that this operation is really focused on business that starts out on the street, despite that reference to the internet and hotels.

[Tighty]

This is from 8/13 in the Metro DC suburb in fairfax va:

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/08/fairfax-prostitution-sting-nets-23-arrests-93028.html

[Steven_Draker]

This is from 08/2011 ... Downtown D.C. prostitution stings nets 74 arrests

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/crime-scene/post/police-74-arrested-in-dc-prostitution-sting/2011/08/15/gIQAKzKfGJ_blog.html

 

Note the operation was called "Off the Streets" back then.

[JoeyBryant]

I don't know how to repost this in the Deli, but think it might be a good idea to do so ... so that more people -- clients and escorts both -- see it.

 

I'm heading to DC in a couple of days, and am suddenly uncertain about whether I should change my hiring plans. I'm sticking with known and well-reviewed guys, but without knowing any more details about what happened there, don't know who might be at risk.

 

Oh, well don't let it thwart your hiring plans. If it's someone like me who is well-known and reviewed, I doubt that they'd have a badge and cuffs overnight. Unless, of course...that's part of the 'scene' you're looking for. I like these comments from the article:

 

Brilliant use of limited funds.

 

another saying:

 

Prostitution is legal in Canada, in Britain, in France, in Germany, in Australia, in New Zealand, and in any number of other perfectly livable First World nations.

 

In this as in so many other policy issues, the USA is the fundamentalist wacko of the Western world.

[marylander1940]

Any more information about this?

 

I contacted a couple of local escorts in DC and they didn't even know about this...

[Griffin Donavon]

I wouldn't stress about this, seriously.. Fairfax and the outter limits of DC is we're female And she male escorts go.. This has nothing connected to m4m industry.

[JoeyBryant]

I wouldn't stress about this, seriously.. Fairfax and the outter limits of DC is we're female And she male escorts go.. This has nothing connected to m4m industry.

 

That makes sense, thanks for clarifying that. Sounds like Nebraska Avenue in Tampa or the OBT in Orlando. The article didn't elaborate on much, and mentioned that both men and women were involved. But by no means was I intending to 'stress' anyone out about this. Just wanted some clarification. I hate the news and newspapers anyway unless it's about weather.

 

I didn't know just how awful the city of Denver was until I cancelled my cable subscription and got stuck watching news on 5 or 6 channels.

[Griffin Donavon]

This is how I look at it, Is a undercover cop really going too kiss another guy? Think about it, When he does that he is putting his reputation of respect with his other peer's at risk..Whom after its done has to work with for a very long time.. He risks not being promoted at his job, and looked at as a gay.

 

Like any other job, if your open about your sexuality of being gay, they won't say the reason of not being promoted is being gay.. However, it is the reason.. This is also true for the police force...

 

Also, we have nothing to worry about... We're not prostitutes. I classify myself as a professional companion.

[marylander1940]

I wouldn't stress about this, seriously.. Fairfax and the outter limits of DC is we're female And she male escorts go.. This has nothing connected to m4m industry.

 

First of all the recent raid was in DC, NW DC, not in Fairfax... 60 people arrested.

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/60-picked-up-in-prostitution-sweep-in-dc/2013/10/13/2a6fbac2-3457-11e3-80c6-7e6dd8d22d8f_story.html

 

An older raid in 2011 with the arrest of 74 people in DC, not in Fairfax.

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/crime-scene/post/police-74-arrested-in-dc-prostitution-sting/2011/08/15/gIQAKzKfGJ_blog.html

 

This other raid with the arrest of 23 happened in Fairfax in August 2013....

 

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/08/fairfax-prostitution-sting-nets-23-arrests-93028.html

 

We are talking about 3 different things, a recent raid in DC, a raid in DC in 2011 that Steven Draker, always so resourceful brought back to memory, and a recent raid in Fairfax because of complaints about hookers having sex in restaurant's restrooms where 23 people were arrested. 3 different raids, one in Fairfax and 2 others in NW DC but in different times.

 

May I also suggest knowing the difference between: their and there, we, were, where, and we're, you, your and you're...

[Griffin Donavon]

First of all the recent raid was in DC, NW DC, not in Fairfax... 60 people arrested.

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/60-picked-up-in-prostitution-sweep-in-dc/2013/10/13/2a6fbac2-3457-11e3-80c6-7e6dd8d22d8f_story.html

 

An older raid in 2011 with the arrest of 74 people in DC, not in Fairfax.

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/crime-scene/post/police-74-arrested-in-dc-prostitution-sting/2011/08/15/gIQAKzKfGJ_blog.html

 

This other raid with the arrest of 23 happened in Fairfax in August 2013....

 

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/08/fairfax-prostitution-sting-nets-23-arrests-93028.html

 

We are talking about 3 different things, a recent raid in DC, a raid in DC in 2011 that Steven Draker, always so resourceful brought back to memory, and a recent raid in Fairfax because of complaints about hookers having sex in restaurant's restrooms where 23 people were arrested. 3 different raids, one in Fairfax and 2 others in NW DC but in different times.

 

May I also suggest knowing the difference between: their and there, we, were, where, and we're, you, your and you're...

 

I have said what I know, I'm not going to worry or loose sleep over it.. Or create drama.. Adios

[Newly]

Wow, I know this is not a pleasant topic but the amount of denial here is breath taking. Anyone's odd of being dragged into one of these things are slim, but it is certainly a possibility. Why would local prosecutors or police forces get involved in this? Like congressman who keep on talking about massive voting fraud even when it can't be shown (sure, illegal aliens want to risk getting deported so they can vote for the local dog catchers) it is a very political thing. These type of arrests get lots of media attention and become popular when someone is up for re-election. Anyone who thinks it only happens to a different "class" of clients and street hookers needs to google and learn about multiple operations in the past that have targeted high class madams and clients - including the little operation in Maine that had multiple town councilmen and an ex mayor's names published in local papers. No matter how careful you think you are being subpoenas to cell providers, computer records, etc. will easily turn up lots of info. and since in most areas this can be prosecuted as a conspiracy the fun just goes on. By the way Griffen, no disrespect meant, but if you think that saying time is for companionship only will convince a judge and jury I wish you the best. If you all have been following privacy news and the NSA keep in mind that this same type of information can be easily obtain by local prosecutors and police in a criminal investigation - probable cause is not that hard to show. Again, the odd of this happening to any one individual is slim, but saying that it only happens to "poor" people is just flat out wrong.

[Guest Starbuck]

Aside from any operations ongoing in DC (or the surrounding area) is there much history of "guys like us" (male escorts advertising online and/or their clients) being arrested/charged/prosecuted for our activities? I ask this as someone pretty new to hiring; I'd love to get some perspective from guys (on either side of the equation) who have been around longer.

[+ dupontversDC]

These types of stories seem to happen all around the country from time to time. One of the things that also seems true: they are mainly focused on straight sex. I've not heard of gay escorts / clients being targeted, but I'm sure it does happen.

[JoeyBryant]

Wow, I know this is not a pleasant topic but the amount of denial here is breath taking. Anyone's odd of being dragged into one of these things are slim, but it is certainly a possibility. Why would local prosecutors or police forces get involved in this? Like congressman who keep on talking about massive voting fraud even when it can't be shown (sure, illegal aliens want to risk getting deported so they can vote for the local dog catchers) it is a very political thing. These type of arrests get lots of media attention and become popular when someone is up for re-election. Anyone who thinks it only happens to a different "class" of clients and street hookers needs to google and learn about multiple operations in the past that have targeted high class madams and clients - including the little operation in Maine that had multiple town councilmen and an ex mayor's names published in local papers. No matter how careful you think you are being subpoenas to cell providers, computer records, etc. will easily turn up lots of info. and since in most areas this can be prosecuted as a conspiracy the fun just goes on. By the way Griffen, no disrespect meant, but if you think that saying time is for companionship only will convince a judge and jury I wish you the best. If you all have been following privacy news and the NSA keep in mind that this same type of information can be easily obtain by local prosecutors and police in a criminal investigation - probable cause is not that hard to show. Again, the odd of this happening to any one individual is slim, but saying that it only happens to "poor" people is just flat out wrong.

 

Well, the thing that I was drawn to was the fact the article mentioned 'complaints'. And, the way it was described, it didn't sound like the way many of the daddy's type of escorts would do. Nobody is going into resturaunt bathrooms and such. And that, would likely be a different class of 'provider', an underground sort of thing. Sure there's possibilities, but from what the article suggested they were responding to something that was an on-going issue for the businesses in the area. I know this a bad analogy, but it's like doing coke. If you're exchanging/doing it among the saftey of your home...you are better off and less a target than if you're in front of 7-11 every night attracting attention to yourself.

 

Without the media giving the full scope, we just don't know. But, I've lived in cities where male/gay/trans escorts work on the streets and were looking for male clients. And I've known 1 person to get a trespass out of it, but that's about it.

 

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[Michael Wayne]

There is a danger and we all must be vigilent..............

[Steven_Draker]

I've not heard of gay escorts / clients being targeted, but I'm sure it does happen.

 

I don't want to be controversial, but gay male escorts have been on target in the past. I know of 6 escorts who have been entrapped in similar stings (Las Vegas, New York and Miami).

 

I ask this as someone pretty new to hiring; I'd love to get some perspective from guys (on either side of the equation) who have been around longer.

 

Starbuck, as with everything in life there's a certain risk. As a client the risk is higher if you hire someone who hasn't been reviewed before.

 

Backpage (and the now defunct Erotic Adult Section of Craig's list) have been regularly used in such entrapments. Hiring an unknown escort/masseur from there would put you at even higher risk.

[JoeyBryant]

There is a danger and we all must be vigilent..............

 

Screw being vigilent, let's be vigilantes. We need to get to the point where we're willing to fight for our right. Let's find out how Canadians and Brits did it.