Wonderful Reviews Written by Escorts Themselves....

[bcohen7719]

Without naming names...what are the tell-tale intimations

or evidence, in your opinion? And are some of these

possibly even useful for you.....?

 

BC

[Glenn1441]

BC -- Are you're referring to the notion that an escort might slip past Daddy a positive review written written by himself or by a friend? If so, I find that hard to believe since Daddy seems to have good intuition, and vets so thoroughly... Of course, everyone has an off-day. PM me with a suspicious example if you can.

 

 

Without naming names...what are the tell-tale intimations

or evidence, in your opinion? And are some of these

possibly even useful for you.....?

 

BC

[bobchitown]

The best tell tale is a first time reviewer. Read them carefully, I don't trust any of them.

[Steven_Draker]

The best tell tale is a first time reviewer. Read them carefully, I don't trust any of them.

 

Even bobchitown's alter ego was once a first time reviewer.

[AdamSmith]

A like marker is when all or most all of an escort's reviews are by first-time reviewers.

 

And all sound alike.

[whipped guy]

I personally like when it is obvious that a bit of extra effort is put into the equation... as when all the first time reviews by first time reviewers say the same exact thing, but to camouflage things a misspelling or two might be thrown in, or the case of bad grammar being used as a disguise, or when they make it seem to have been written by someone whose first language is not English, or conversely someone who has a PHD in English lit... That shows creativity.

 

The best one that I recall was when the escort's first language was not English and all the reviews were written in the same stilted style...

 

In any event, all such reviews are usually short and to the point... That seems to indicate that in general most of these guys don't possess the creativity of a professional writer...or at least are not smart enough to give the illusion there of...

[down_to_business]

As we are not naming names.. I will reference to a post I made a few weeks ago but slightly edited for this thread:

 

So this (escort) I asked about and no one had heard of, now has his 4th review- all first timers, all written in similar styles, all sound like sound bites from his ads, and the latest one has the reviewer describes himself as a ... dude living in Hollywood with the escorts email listed as "escort email". ..

 

Am I just becoming an untrusting skeptic or is there some cause for caution here?

[bcohen7719]

What about a positive side? For example, in the (possibly) self-plagiarzied review seen

the other day, it sounded more like the escort was advertising a possible

fantasy for prospective future buyers. The detail was exquisite. The escort

might be a good egg.

 

Isn't it quite possible that the fantasy suggestion might be quite real

in the flesh, so to speak. Is this a ridiculous suggestion?

 

BC

[Glenn1441]

Good egg or not, this site is the only client-centric forum we have. Writing a positive review for oneself just isn't cool. Again, good egg or not. Escort in question could easily ask satisfied clients -- if that's the vibe at end-of-session -- to write a review. I learned of Hooboy, and thus Daddy's, via -- and I'll name names -- Jon Kass. The session was excellent (each time in fact), and he asked me to write a review. I respect that. Smart business practice and no harm in asking.

 

What about a positive side? For example, in the (possibly) self-plagiarzied review seen

the other day, it sounded more like the escort was advertising a possible

fantasy for prospective future buyers. The detail was exquisite. The escort

might be a good egg.

 

Isn't it quite possible that the fantasy suggestion might be quite real

in the flesh, so to speak. Is this a ridiculous suggestion?

 

BC

[Guest]

The best tell tale is a first time reviewer. Read them carefully, I don't trust any of them.

 

I essentially agree. Although "any" might be be a bit too strong, it is certainly the case that I will rarely give much weight to a first-time review, and for 2nd-time and sometimes 3rd time reviewers, I might check back and see what other reviews they've made. An especially bad sign is when there are bad or lukewarm reviews by established (4+) reviewers and glowing reviews by 1st/2nd timers. I'm also highly suspicious of an escort with an inordinate number of reviews (50+), as these reviews are probably written by those who get most of their business from this site. After all, why would I waste my time writing a positive review for an escort who already has 50 other glowing reviews? My biggest ego boost is to be the first or one of the first to bring to light an excellent escort, and help propel his career. It's nice to go back to the escort some time later and have him say "Yeah, that review really gave a kick-start to my business!". (Unfortunately, I have also seen some of those escorts catch on to this site and write their own--so an auto-writer doesn't necessarily mean a bad escort, just not a very honest one).

[TruHart1]

I essentially agree. Although "any" might be be a bit too strong, it is certainly the case that I will rarely give much weight to a first-time review, and for 2nd-time and sometimes 3rd time reviewers, I might check back and see what other reviews they've made. An especially bad sign is when there are bad or lukewarm reviews by established (4+) reviewers and glowing reviews by 1st/2nd timers. I'm also highly suspicious of an escort with an inordinate number of reviews (50+), as these reviews are probably written by those who get most of their business from this site. After all, why would I waste my time writing a positive review for an escort who already has 50 other glowing reviews? My biggest ego boost is to be the first or one of the first to bring to light an excellent escort, and help propel his career. It's nice to go back to the escort some time later and have him say "Yeah, that review really gave a kick-start to my business!". (Unfortunately, I have also seen some of those escorts catch on to this site and write their own--so an auto-writer doesn't necessarily mean a bad escort, just not a very honest one).

 

Most of the posts here seem on the money. Take care when judging first time reviewers, etc. I disagree with the idea that 50+ excellent reviews is a red flag. Some of these men have been in the business quite a while. They obviously are good at what they do and in those 50+ reviews there are ALWAYS a large number of reviewers with "5 or more" reviews. In addition, many of those 50+ reviews have recognizable reviewer's name, men who contribute to Daddy's message board! JIMHO...

 

TruHart1:cool:

[+ Charlie]

The reviewer describes himself as an educated business executive, but his spelling and grammar don't fit--it makes me think that this is the escort's idea of his perfect client--especially if the writing errors are the same ones in the escort's ad. Also, if the reviewer uses exactly the same catchwords to describe the escort or the experience that the escort uses in his ad, although this may be just laziness on the reviewer's part. In fact, I suspect that some lazy reviewers let the escort write the review and then just pass it on, which is not necessarily illegitimate if the client doesn't really disagree with what it contains.

[whipped guy]

Escort in question could easily ask satisfied clients -- if that's the vibe at end-of-session -- to write a review..

A slight detour here...

 

However, a number of years ago I was so satisfied with an escort that at the end of our first session I immediately scheduled another for the following week. At the conclusion of that second session the escort... and this was what was so interesting... oh so shyly told me about the existence of a review site... and if he could be so bold... he wasn't bold... but he seemed almost afraid to ask... if I could write a review on his behalf. I said that I would... Of course I did not tell him, but the review of our first session was already written, but not yet submitted! I subsequently amended it to included our follow-up session as well.

 

Still, to relate the above incident to the topic at hand, it shows how different guys take different approaches to reviews... While some are so bold as to write their own, others are almost reticent when it comes to approaching the review process.

 

Incidentally, in all the years that I have been submitting reviews... and I told the escort that I intended to submit a review... never once has an escort asked to see the review prior to submission.

[+ not2rowdy]

I've been a forum member for a little of three years now. Although I seldom post, I do look here regularly.

 

It's kind of a "Catch-22" situation. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

 

Only recently did I post my first ever review here on daddy's. It was done with the knowledge that my review would be subject to the contentious "1st time reviewer" discussion this thread brings out.

 

I seriously considered NOT posting the review. Would I actually be providing useful input to prospective clients… or would it be, as a "first time reviewer", damaging to to the person reviewed?

 

I don't know how to PROVE the trustworthiness of my submitted review. But I guess you gotta start somewhere.

 

I'd be interested in some feedback, from this illustrious community, on what that "magic number" of review submissions is before someone's review submissions are taken seriously.

 

Meanwhile, I stand by the review I submitted.

[Nvr2Thick]

I've been a forum member for a little of three years now. Although I seldom post, I do look here regularly.

 

It's kind of a "Catch-22" situation. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

 

Only recently did I post my first ever review here on daddy's. It was done with the knowledge that my review would be subject to the contentious "1st time reviewer" discussion this thread brings out.

 

I seriously considered NOT posting the review. Would I actually be providing useful input to prospective clients… or would it be, as a "first time reviewer", damaging to to the person reviewed?

 

I don't know how to PROVE the trustworthiness of my submitted review. But I guess you gotta start somewhere.

 

I'd be interested in some feedback, from this illustrious community, on what that "magic number" of review submissions is before someone's review submissions are taken seriously.

 

Meanwhile, I stand by the review I submitted.

 

There are people on this forum who are relentless in their contempt for first time reviews. I find it interesting that the first time review not only is suspect, but it can become a black mark on the integrity of the escort being reviewed regardless of the style of the review or of any pattern. Certainly we can understand that multiple first-time reviews are suspect, or that we might give less credence to a new first time review of a brand new escort. There's this overly-critical voice of authority, however, that can permeate discussion on the forum -- "trust us, we know".

 

When I posted my first review to Hooboy's ten years ago I had the same impression as you. There's little satisfaction in posting a review if it will be disparaged by some knowing elder statesman of this site. I am, however, glad you chose to go for it as well.

 

Sometimes a first reviewer and an escort's first review are an indication outside the mainstream -- not one of the favorites or favorite types of the majorities of contributors to the forum. Overstating the lack of value of first reviews does serve to discourage new contributors and diversity of thought in the community.

 

It would be neat if the review side of the site were more advanced, so that eventually your first review would show up as "1st of 5 reviews". I'm curious about the "magic number" as well -- as some have stated that second and third reviews are suspect as well.

 

I'd offer this counter-caution to critiques of first time reviews: Take the dismissal of first time reviews for what it's worth, recognizing that sometimes the person questioning the review enjoys finding fault or has an axe to grind with the escort in question.

[down_to_business]

A first time reviewer is not an automatic red flag in my opinion. I do, however, have strong suspicions when either all of the reviews or all of the positive reviews are by first timers or if the first review after a bad review or negative discussion is by a first time reviewer.

[Newly]

I actually don't pay much attention to reviews unless something is horrifically wrong such as a robbery attempt. Doesn't really matter if it's a first timer or someone who has reviewed many times. What makes an escort worthwhile to one person is so personal that just because someone else did or didn't like someone isn't much help. What was a huge help was seeing what escorts would post here, you would get a sense of their personality and it would help you decide if that person was a good match. Unfortunately, there are very few postings from escorts here, and I can't blame them. So many times it turns into attacks and arguments that if I were an escort I'd be scared to post here...for us it's just a diversion but if your living depended on keeping everyone happy you would either be safer by not posting or just posting prattle that wouldn't offend anyone. I wish there was a way to get escorts to post more and to let them feel that they could express what they really believed without worrying about starting a huge fight.

[Guest]

I've been a forum member for a little of three years now. Although I seldom post, I do look here regularly.

 

It's kind of a "Catch-22" situation. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

 

Only recently did I post my first ever review here on daddy's. It was done with the knowledge that my review would be subject to the contentious "1st time reviewer" discussion this thread brings out.

 

I seriously considered NOT posting the review. Would I actually be providing useful input to prospective clients… or would it be, as a "first time reviewer", damaging to to the person reviewed?

 

I don't know how to PROVE the trustworthiness of my submitted review. But I guess you gotta start somewhere.

 

I'd be interested in some feedback, from this illustrious community, on what that "magic number" of review submissions is before someone's review submissions are taken seriously.

 

Meanwhile, I stand by the review I submitted.

 

You're not damned if you do. As with anything in life, the more you do, the more seriously people take you. Most jobs have at least a 3 month if not a 6 month probation period in which you're going to be scrutinized more carefully. Most businesses these days also keep track of who their loyal customers are, and give more slack or perks to the experienced. That's life. You can't expect to walk in on a job the first day and act like your opinion will carry as much weight as a veteran worker with a track record of good predictions. The way to get around that is to put in more reviews. At three, your opinion will carry more weight, and at the 5th review, you're already considered an expert. It doesn't get much easier. If, for example, I have a service issue with a hotel, it makes a difference whether I complain as a Priceline customer, or as a Gold or Platinum frequent guest member. If a manager looks at my letter and loyalty member number he'll notice "Hey, this guy has had over 50 stays at our hotels before, and this is his first time complaining. Maybe he's on to something." That doesn't mean the Priceline customer's opinion is without value. The long-standing loyal customer's opinion simply has more weight. If you want people to trust you, give them a reason to.

[Guest]

On the other hand, everyone knows Mad Margaret's "as mad as any hatter, so her opinion doesn't matter"....

 

Margaret

If were not a little mad and generally silly

I should give you my advice upon the subject, willy-nilly;

I should show you in a moment how to grapple with the question,

And you'd really be astonished at the force of my suggestion.

On the subject I shall write you a most valuable letter,

Full of excellent suggestions when I feel a little better,

But at present I'm afraid I am as mad as any hatter,

So I'll keep 'em to myself, for my opinion doesn't matter!

 

[whipped guy]

I certainly don't dismiss all first time reviews as being bogus and I am sure many others here don't either. Not all of us are Shakespeare, and not all of us are adept at proof reading what we have written. All of that must be taken into consideration. Still, if a first review is written logically and seems to offer a certain amount of detail above and beyond mere ad copy that certainly helps lend it more credence.

 

My first review was of an escort who was one of the finalists in the EOY competition from the last days of the last century and it more or less confirmed what others had previously submitted if with a slightly different twist and emphasis. Interestingly it was and still is the shortest and most concise review that I have ever written. All my subsequent reviews have been much more detailed. As one gets more familiar with the review process and what constitutes a helpful review one grows into the process. I don't mean to imply that all serious reviews must be Wagnerian in length... At times brevity is an asset. It is just that the best reviews aid, assist, and offer guidance no matter what the writer's style may or may not be. Along those lines, if a review seems to offer a bit of insight into what the escort has to offer it certainly qualifies to be taken seriously no matter how many reviews have been submitted by its author. Conversely, I have read many "five or more" reviews that fall flat.

 

In any event, I felt like I had reached quite a milestone when I finally was able to declare with much pride that I had submitted "five or more reviews"!

 

Incidentally, and I have posted this many times previously, I feel that one of the most important sections of the rewiew process is the YOU section where the reviewer has the opportunity to reveal something about himself and what he is looking for in an escort. That can often not only be be the most helpful portion of a review, but it can add a bit of confidence and reliance to the review as well.

[nate_sf]

In fact, I suspect that some lazy reviewers let the escort write the review and then just pass it on, which is not necessarily illegitimate if the client doesn't really disagree with what it contains.

 

LOL this would be the escort equivalent of your boss telling you to write your own reference letter and they'll just sign it. I guess if it can happen in the business community it could happen here too!

 

From my own escorting experience, I found that about half of the reviewers would offer to send me the review to proof before submitting it. I'd hear the voice of my high school journalism teacher telling how it's unethical for journalists to allow their sources to preview and comment on stories before publication, so when this was offered to me I'd limit comments only to correcting factual errors but not content. Sometimes a guy would ask if he was revealing too much of the encounter (particularly when it was kinkier stuff) but I figured it was his review so he should be able to express himself as he'd like. The net result was a collection of reviews, some kinky and some totally vanilla/BFE but each expressing the personalities of the guys who wrote them.

[ncc1701d]

Agree with the general sentiment here that 1) reviews are useful to a certain point, 2) reviewer with a track record is more believable 3) not all first time reviewers are bogus. But I also look to see what the reviewer has written for others and his past hiring trend to see what he is into, and whether that is similar to what I'm looking for. For a example, I just hired someone with lots of reviews, but in the course of reading thru the escort's reviews some of the reviewers are totally into S/M and kinky stuff given all their past reviews, so I discounted those (albeit very positive) review for ME, since they don't apply. Fortunately this escort has many other reviews to go on, so we did go ahead (after I spoke to him on the phone). So like everything else you buy in life that isn't a dime a dozen, do your homework and you are much more likely to be satisfied with the end result (and I sure was)!

[whipped guy]

Sometimes a guy would ask if he was revealing too much of the encounter (particularly when it was kinkier stuff) but I figured it was his review so he should be able to express himself as he'd like. The net result was a collection of reviews, some kinky and some totally vanilla/BFE but each expressing the personalities of the guys who wrote them.

 

I just hired someone with lots of reviews, but in the course of reading thru the escort's reviews some of the reviewers are totally into S/M and kinky stuff given all their past reviews, so I discounted those (albeit very positive) review for ME, since they don't apply. Fortunately this escort has many other reviews to go on, so we did go ahead (after I spoke to him on the phone).

 

The kinky stuff is always a problem... When an escort is known primarily for a mainstream type of service I always ask if it he would like a review that discusses his kinkier side. Ironically every time I have asked they are happy to get such a review as it exhibits a certain amount of diversity. However, I am always very careful in writing such reviews so as not to scare off any vanilla clients who might be dissuaded from hiring the escort in question.

 

However, there are indeed times when my better judgment tells me that a review a would not be in the escort's best interest and I would not even consider writing one that dealt with or revealed the kinkier aspects of his persona. In that case I never bring up the subject...

[raife]

The kinky stuff is always a problem... When an escort is known primarily for a mainstream type of service I always ask if it he would like a review that discusses his kinkier side. Ironically every time I have asked they are happy to get such a review as it exhibits a certain amount of diversity. However, I am always very careful in writing such reviews so as not to scare off any vanilla clients who might be dissuaded from hiring the escort in question.

 

However, there are indeed times when my better judgment tells me that a review a would not be in the escort's best interest and I would not even consider writing one that dealt with or revealed the kinkier aspects of his persona. In that case I never bring up the subject...

 

It saddens and dissapoints me that reviews which express the individuality and unique talents of an escort are suppressed so as to not offend a supposed prototypical "vanilla" client. That's exactly the kind of details I'm seeking out when I read through the reviews. I have unique interests and I want to know if the guy has versatility and an open mind, it's the activities outside the big 3 that catch my attention. There are far too many ...I won't go into details but suffice to say a wonderful time was had by all... type non-reviews, which are completely useless to me.

 

The double whammy of disinterest is a first timer who writes a totally generic cardboard cutout review that could be taken from the ad copy of any backpage listing. Why bother unless you're the escort himself trying to drum up business, and if you are an escort, why not drop a few bucks on an unemployed writer to spice up the review and make things at least interesting, despite being fictional, for us review readers. At least you get points from me for being creatively entrepreneurial, and given that you might well be creative in bed, I'll take that chance!

 

I feel bad for Mikey with his "death of vanilla" rant and all, but I'm looking for a unique tailored experience that includes some of the very kinky activities he disparages.

[imrthr]

Quite recently, I read a first time review of an escort. I liked the photo of the escort as well as the written details concerning the escort. Unfortunately, the only thing accurate about the review was the photograph of the escort and the fact that the escort was young, male and friendly.

 

The most obvious lies in the review were where the escort was described as “masculine” with a penis of about “eight” inches.

 

The first thing I noticed about the escort upon his arrived is that he is incredibly effeminate. He wore red ladies panties, had highly feminine mannerisms and had a skinny short penis less than five inches long (after it became “hard”).

 

In this instant case, it is obvious that either a friend wrote the review for the escort or the escort wrote the review for himself. The review cleverly and inadvertently slipped through the vetting process.

 

In the future, I will stick to reviews from multiple reviewers rather than believe a “glowing” review from a relatively “new” poster to the site

 

Reviews are great but be careful.