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The flip side of worrying about health issues for those of us who multi-partner ...

 

I'm wondering how many of us have gotten HEALTHIER since beginning to hire. Personally, as of today, I'm down 17 pounds (with more to go). Apparently the dozens of excellent medical reasons for a middle-aged man to get (or stay) fit have not motivated me as effectively as getting naked with some of the hottest guys on the planet!

 

Anyone else enjoying this extra added benefit of our hobby?

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The flip side of worrying about health issues for those of us who multi-partner ...

 

I'm wondering how many of us have gotten HEALTHIER since beginning to hire. Personally, as of today, I'm down 17 pounds (with more to go). Apparently the dozens of excellent medical reasons for a middle-aged man to get (or stay) fit have not motivated me as effectively as getting naked with some of the hottest guys on the planet!

 

Anyone else enjoying this extra added benefit of our hobby?

 

If we move it over to psychological-space: Being accepted and lauded for my profession has been a real boost to my self-esteem. The cat helps, too.

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The flip side of worrying about health issues for those of us who multi-partner ...

 

I'm wondering how many of us have gotten HEALTHIER since beginning to hire. Personally, as of today, I'm down 17 pounds (with more to go). Apparently the dozens of excellent medical reasons for a middle-aged man to get (or stay) fit have not motivated me as effectively as getting naked with some of the hottest guys on the planet!

 

Anyone else enjoying this extra added benefit of our hobby?

 

Hey Starbuck, thanks for the pm...Ok, perhaps I shouldn't have deleted this post, especially since it was your thread....SO I'll try it again. Congratulations are in order for your weight loss. It is rarely an easy thing to do. But as I mentioned before make it part of your life, not just a temporary diet.

 

You are 100% right, it is amazing how motivated we become when a 'hot man' is involved. lol... I remember the first time I flew to SF to see Marc Dylan. I had slipped in going to the gym, and In-in-out burger had my number. In a panic I tried to bump up my workout. It kinda worked, but I just didn't like the way I looked, so the first three days in SF, I got out of bed at 6 am just to hit the gym a few more times before I saw Marc. So shallow I know, lol lol, but "a mans got to do what a mans got to do". Keep it up, and enjoy Mr. Gandolfini tonight. And should you ever find yourself in FTL...."drinks on me"

 

Cheers my friend.

the greatest beauty is

Organic wholeness, the wholeness of life and things,

the divine beauty of the universe.

Love that, not man apart from that,

or else you will share man’s pitiful confusions,

or drown in despair when his days darken."

 

- Robinson Jeffers

 

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Keep it up, and enjoy Mr. Gandolfini tonight. And should you ever find yourself in FTL...."drinks on me"

 

Sitting through his final movie--which is quirky, original and charming--it was impossible not to think of the late, great, lovable James Gandolfini as another motivator for improving my own health and fitness.

 

As for drinks, please consider the offer reciprocal should you find yourself up in Connecticut. And we'll invite Whipped! ... I am led to believe that I don't live all that far away from the Northeast Command Post.

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The number on the scale hasn't moved much (although it has moved down!) but for me, one of the biggest benefits is just feeling happier and sexier all the way around. Happy bodies work better. :)

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Tyro, there are no truer words. I've admitted to BVD that these are pounds I've lost before (more than once), so hopefully I can make a permanent lifestyle change this time. The thing that's already set in (and how do I EVER forget this?) is the MUCH better mental attitude and energy boost that launches as soon as a self-improvement effort (or any other positive change in life) is underway.

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A very dear friend of mine, a former graduate of The Foxcroft School and keeper of many girlish secrets has undergone exactly this sort of return to health and owes it all, she says, to the recent hire of her new gardner, Ben.

 

Just three months ago, her appearance, as well as her grounds, seemed listless and gone to seed. Her breasts appeared to droop, as did her magnolias. All the color was gone from her face and from her yard. She moved slowly and with difficulty and seemed to take less pleasure in everyday life. We were all terribly worried and knew something must be done.

 

A few of us, her very closest friends, met for tea and cobbled together an advertisement we hoped would bring her the relief she so dearly needed. We ran it in the paper and, next day, who should appear at her back door right at noon but Ben, a recent arrival in the village and one of the most comely lads ever to walk our shaded lanes. His faded denims showed he was used to being outdoors and the flirtatious twinkle in his eyes showed he knew how to find his way around indoors too, should the need arise.

 

He went to work that day, and the transformation has been remarkable. My friend loves sitting in her garden now, watching closely as Ben leans down to deal with a fallen leaf and humming as he tends her roses and trims her lilies. Her eyes sparkle as Ben tosses aside his shirt to tidy up her water folly. She looks ten years younger and her garden blooms as never before.

 

Her step has a spring in it too, and she moves like a schoolgirl, although a few of us notice that occasionally she winces a bit when bending from the hips, though always with a glimmer of a smile. :rolleyes:

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The flip side of worrying about health issues for those of us who multi-partner ...

 

I'm wondering how many of us have gotten HEALTHIER since beginning to hire. Personally, as of today, I'm down 17 pounds (with more to go). Apparently the dozens of excellent medical reasons for a middle-aged man to get (or stay) fit have not motivated me as effectively as getting naked with some of the hottest guys on the planet!

 

Anyone else enjoying this extra added benefit of our hobby?

 

So what's the secret? Exercise and diet?

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Aunt Fancy, your dear friend is probably getting her bushed trimmed regularly. I hear tell that Ben has just the right implement for every job and that once he is rooting around in the bush, the results leaves everyone smiling. And i agree that there is nothing better to spruce up your spruce and to stop your pine from pining than a good hard pruning of the bush.

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A very dear friend of mine, a former graduate of The Foxcroft School and keeper of many girlish secrets has undergone exactly this sort of return to health and owes it all, she says, to the recent hire of her new gardner, Ben.

 

Just three months ago, her appearance, as well as her grounds, seemed listless and gone to seed. Her breasts appeared to droop, as did her magnolias. All the color was gone from her face and from her yard. She moved slowly and with difficulty and seemed to take less pleasure in everyday life. We were all terribly worried and knew something must be done.

 

A few of us, her very closest friends, met for tea and cobbled together an advertisement we hoped would bring her the relief she so dearly needed. We ran it in the paper and, next day, who should appear at her back door right at noon but Ben, a recent arrival in the village and one of the most comely lads ever to walk our shaded lanes. His faded denims showed he was used to being outdoors and the flirtatious twinkle in his eyes showed he knew how to find his way around indoors too, should the need arise.

 

He went to work that day, and the transformation has been remarkable. My friend loves sitting in her garden now, watching closely as Ben leans down to deal with a fallen leaf and humming as he tends her roses and trims her lilies. Her eyes sparkle as Ben tosses aside his shirt to tidy up her water folly. She looks ten years younger and her garden blooms as never before.

 

Her step has a spring in it too, and she moves like a schoolgirl, although a few of us notice that occasionally she winces a bit when bending from the hips, though always with a glimmer of a smile. :rolleyes:

 

Absolutely wonderful.....

the greatest beauty is

Organic wholeness, the wholeness of life and things,

the divine beauty of the universe.

Love that, not man apart from that,

or else you will share man’s pitiful confusions,

or drown in despair when his days darken."

 

- Robinson Jeffers

 

B e l i e v e

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As for drinks, please consider the offer reciprocal should you find yourself up in Connecticut. And we'll invite Whipped! ... I am led to believe that I don't live all that far away from the Northeast Command Post.

 

Well I have promised (again) another forum member that I would come up for a visit early next year.....perhaps a road trip will be in order. It would be almost perfect, North then west bound....something to consider. ;)

the greatest beauty is

Organic wholeness, the wholeness of life and things,

the divine beauty of the universe.

Love that, not man apart from that,

or else you will share man’s pitiful confusions,

or drown in despair when his days darken."

 

- Robinson Jeffers

 

B e l i e v e

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So what's the secret? Exercise and diet?

 

Exercise, diet ... and, as I said, wanting to close the gap between how good the man-of-the-hour looks vs. how I look. This week, knowing that I am truly "launched" on this self-improvement, I'll finally join a gym ... not just for the equipment, but for the guidance of a trainer--one more way of putting myself in the hands of a hot guy, right?

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Well you can count me in on that. As someone who has lost 50 pounds this year and who is in the best shape of his life, I'm loving it. It's diet and exercise both. When the people at your office start commenting on how ripped you are looking (as happened to me this week) you know you are making progress. When your own trainer is saying how defined you are looking, you are getting there. When you can see the difference in pictures from even a couple of months ago, yeah, it feeds upon itself.

 

When you get the feedback from your escorts you tend to discount it a bit. I know I did. They're my friends as well, and friends can be "too nice", to puff you up a bit, to make you think more of yourself than you really are. I knew I looked better than I ever have , felt better, moved better than ever, but just didn't know how "real" it was. First you look around the gay bars and places like that and think "I'm in better shape than most of these guys, even the younger ones". And so I thought I'd find out for sure. And so I placed a profile on a couple of the hookup sites (and for those of you who know me, yes with my partner's knowledge and agreement). I figured maybe a few guys would respond. I wasn't planning on 50, 60, or more. In a week. Some guys who are half my age. Some guys I would have to card to make sure they were of age. And some guys who in my wildest fantasies I would never have thought I would have a shot at. They responded to me, not the other way around. Having a guy with an incredible body call you gorgeous, sexy, stunning, incredible, or hot will do something for you. Especially at my age. It will motivate you to get back into the gym even more. Watch your diet even more carefully. Push yourself harder. Try to do even more.

 

I don't know if I'll ever have the body I want, or the body of WG (which is the body I want :) ). But for now, I'm loving where things are and I can't imagine going back to where I was.

Lee

 

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I agree, for what it is worth with most of what BVB, Lee and other guys and Aunt Fancy have posted here. There is no substitute for a healthy diet and regular exercise. I never felt better than when I had a trainer working with me three times a week. It was great motivation... at first I didn't want to disappoint him, nor did I want to feel that I was wasting my money. Then after a few weeks, when I saw the weight dropping and staying off, in spite of an occasional burger and fries it made a lot of sense. I too noticed that I felt better, looked better, got compliments on how I looked, had more energy, etc. Most of all, it has given me a new outlook on things as I continue to age. So I say congratulations to all who have embarked on a new lease on life during the aging process with a sensible diet and exercise program.

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...the body of WG (which is the body I want :) )...

 

Lee… Be careful what you ask for as the package also includes sciatica on the right side emanating from L 3 and L4, a bum knee that further aggravates that right side, Arthritis in the left shoulder, Afib, and I can go on… Oh, and then there’s the TMJ issue… :D Plus I am older than you and don’t have any bionic parts to help me along… ;) Other than that, I’m fine!!!

 

Actually I ignore all that stuff and push on… A healthy lifestyle is what keeps the engine chugging! Sempre Avanti!

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Lee… Be careful what you ask for as the package also includes sciatica on the right side emanating from L 3 and L4, a bum knee that further aggravates that right side, Arthritis in the left shoulder, Afib, and I can go on… Oh, and then there’s the TMJ issue… :D Plus I am older than you and don’t have any bionic parts to help me along… ;) Other than that, I’m fine!!!

 

Actually I ignore all that stuff and push on… A healthy lifestyle is what keeps the engine chugging! Sempre Avanti!

 

Then you keep the other stuff, I get the body. :rolleyes:

Lee

 

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I will be in the minority on this one. While some health benefits can be gained from occasional hiring, there is more of a potential for harm if you allow this occasional hobby to replace making real friends and pursuing real relationships.

 

If paying someone for companionship and hearing how you look better this time than the last time they saw you motivates you to be healthier, that is great. You would probably be better served, however, spending money on a dietician and a personal trainer than an escort if this is your motivation.

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You may be in the minority DTB, but you're not alone. I have no doubt that if it encourages you to exercise or watch your diet, within reason, there will be some benefit to your health. If one goes overboard and tries to become a muscle man or starts taking hormones in an attempt to keep up with 20 year olds there are at least some indications that your life span and health may be compromised. And of course, the biggest elephant in the room, STDs. Besides HIV more and more STDs are becoming drug resistant and harder to fight. Although I have no doubt that the escorts on this site are of the highest caliber and engage in "safe" sex simply practicing safe sex doesn't eliminate the risk - it just cuts it down by huge amounts. Lets say the risk goes from 10% to .1%. The problem is that if you have hundreds of partners a year that .1% has now multiplied to a level where it becomes a real risk. HIV isn't a death sentence anymore, but it is no picnic and the latest findings on people who have been on medications for years show all sorts of complications and problems from taking these medications. And this is assuming that you frequent the right escorts. Most escorts realize that saying they are HIV positive immediately lowers the pool of potential customers, and when your living is at stake it is easy to justify it by saying that they only practice safe sex so what's the harm? Anyhow, people should be able to make their own choices, but to try to pretend that this hobby is actually a health benefit seems to be stretching it a bit.

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I will be in the minority on this one. While some health benefits can be gained from occasional hiring, there is more of a potential for harm if you allow this occasional hobby to replace making real friends and pursuing real relationships.

 

If paying someone for companionship and hearing how you look better this time than the last time they saw you motivates you to be healthier, that is great. You would probably be better served, however, spending money on a dietician and a personal trainer than an escort if this is your motivation.

 

But if you already have the dietician and the trainer, why not? And I do have both as well. Just because you have a dietician and trainer does not preclude hiring escorts either. I'm in the gym 5-6 days a week, I meet my trainer 4 days a week, I meet my dietician about once a quarter, and I hire when I would like to. And they all do me good. Is there anything wrong with doing both? Any one else you want to add to my coterie of experts? Masseur? Got that too.

Lee

 

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... to try to pretend that this hobby is actually a health benefit seems to be stretching it a bit.

 

Anyone who has an active, multi-partner sex life and a working brain considers the health risks they are taking (as acknowledged in the first sentence of the original post). For all of us who have lost friends/colleagues to HIV/AIDS, or know people who have lived with it for years, that biggest risk is undeniable and impossible to forget.

 

Nonetheless, knowing that, some of us elect to have sex lives and to share them with more than one partner. And for some of us (as affirmed by posts included in this thread) there HAS been a health benefit ... specifically, the improvement of our personal health and fitness. The benefit does not negate the risk; the benefit and the risk coexist.

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I've been hesitant to add to this discussion, but those like LBT and the escorts I have hired over the last few years are certainly aware of my change over the last year or so. After battling a major illness, I have dropped 255 lbs. over the last 3 years, 145 since Oct. 1 a year ago. My physical health is the best it has been in 20+ years (no diabetes or blood pressure meds.). But my mental health is even better. I can accept who I am, have a vision for who I want to be, and know I am finally on the right path after many, many years. I've had great doctors, great trainers, supportive friends and family, and yes, members of the escort community who have stood by my side and offered encouragement every step of the way. I am a very lucky man. Working with these guys has given me the confidence I needed to start dating again. There's nothing unhealthy about that.

Mitch

"There are three ingredients in the good life: learning, earning, and yearning." Christopher Morley

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I've been hesitant to add to this discussion, but those like LBT and the escorts I have hired over the last few years are certainly aware of my change over the last year or so. After battling a major illness, I have dropped 255 lbs. over the last 3 years, 145 since Oct. 1 a year ago. My physical health is the best it has been in 20+ years (no diabetes or blood pressure meds.). But my mental health is even better. I can accept who I am, have a vision for who I want to be, and know I am finally on the right path after many, many years. I've had great doctors, great trainers, supportive friends and family, and yes, members of the escort community who have stood by my side and offered encouragement every step of the way. I am a very lucky man. Working with these guys has given me the confidence I needed to start dating again. There's nothing unhealthy about that.

 

So glad you decided to share, Professor. That's a compelling story and great news. Many congratulations!

 

P.S. I LOVE Christopher Morley ... I suspect many don't know who he was, but I have a couple of his books in fairly old editions (Parnassus on Wheels and The Haunted Bookshop) and was so pleased when I was in Amsterdam a couple of weeks ago to see a new edition of The Haunted Bookshop on the shelves at The American Book Center.

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