+ glutes Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 (edited) “Flight with Purpose ®" So now you rely upon vendors predicting what the manufacturer will do? Apparently someone left a wrench in a "J" box and being adrift, it managed to get into an electrical component. Again, why do you think they call them test flights? Do they make Depends for the mouth? Best regards, KMEM If the on-board fire(!) had such a simple cause (wrench in "J" box), why aren't they resuming test flights? (That next test will be a “Flight with Purpose ®", ey Captain?) http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2010/11/11/business/11boeing-span/11boeing-span-articleLarge.jpg Edited December 2, 2010 by glutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
instudiocity Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 http://www.king5.com/news/business/KING-5-Learns-Cause-of-787-Fire--110439234.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMEM Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 According to the link provided by Instidiocity it wasn't even a wrench but only a simple washer. Naturally, ANYTHING that is misplaced can cause a good deal of harm, even such as a "gloats" supplied post. I am sure test flights will resume shortly and deliveries will commence very soon. I don't think that will be the same for some sane and sensible posts by gloats. Best regards, KMEM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ glutes Posted December 10, 2010 Author Share Posted December 10, 2010 A piece of debris inside an electrical control panel caused a short and then a fire. What happened next has been described as a cascading series of failures. The fire self-extinguished within 30 seconds, but the plane lost primary electrical power, Boeing said. The system meant to distribute power to an array of devices — from cockpit displays to microwave ovens — went haywire. http://www.npr.org/2010/12/09/131856033/woes-mount-for-boeing-s-much-awaited-dreamliner Sounds comforting, ay Captain? http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_savG293Eu-k/TIHADxeC1lI/AAAAAAAAACE/Em7lRpU-z6g/s1600/captain-and-tennille1.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMEM Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 And this is different how? I have "criticized" Boeing before for apparently following the current political climate and becoming a "world' company. Their vendors have severely let them down or worse. I am not sure how or if Boeing will resolve this issue, any more than I know how the US will. Otherwise, software issues are a bitch. Donald Douglas had it right. Have a cable connected to each and every control surface. Best regards, KMEM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ihpguy Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Eis month: June/july year: 201? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ glutes Posted January 19, 2011 Author Share Posted January 19, 2011 it is just a dream! Boeing Co. said Tuesday it now plans to deliver its first 787 Dreamliner sometime in the third quarter, more than three years behind schedule. The latest delivery setback—the seventh official delay—for the Dreamliner program comes more than two months after an in-flight electrical fire and subsequent emergency landing forced Boeing to halt flight testing across its fleet of six test Dreamliners. The first delivery had been expected next month... http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703954004576089703794210100.html?KEYWORDS=boeing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMEM Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Never worry, gloats, just don't ride on it if you are worried. OTOH, if WA state goes out of business, perhaps we all should worry? Best regards, KMEM It is totally amazing to me that some think I am negative when we have such as gloats around to stir things down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ glutes Posted January 19, 2011 Author Share Posted January 19, 2011 Never worry, gloats, just don't ride on it if you are worried. Same reason I don't 'ride' your bride BN, both are worrisome... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
instudiocity Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Never worry, gloats, just don't ride on it if you are worried. OTOH, if WA state goes out of business, perhaps we all should worry? Remember the old Zenith TV ad? "At Zenith, the quality goes in, before the name goes on - ZENITH!" If only Zenith had the ARFAA watching over them, they'd still be making TV's. Boeing is experimenting with manufacturing by committee and trying to reinvent the commercial airliner. These things take time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMEM Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Same reason I don't 'ride' your bride BN, both are worrisome... You will never ride my bride but it has nothing to do with being worrisome, only with being gloats. Best regards, KMEM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMEM Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Instudiocity- Boeing has a lot of problems to include those you mention. However, as the "premier" US aircraft manufacturer, I hope we can all agree to encourage them to do their best. Of course, gloats will only stand by the wayside and make snide remarks, not helpful to anyone. Best regards, KMEM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Boeing is experimenting with manufacturing by committee and trying to reinvent the commercial airliner. These things take time... There's the nub. An engineering manager at BMW once told me his company follows an "iron law" -- never try to change both the PRODUCT and the PROCESS at the same time. Boeing forgot that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMEM Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 AS- Also sounds like the "rub". What did he do after he told you that? Sorry, I understand your post. Best regards, KMEM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ glutes Posted January 21, 2011 Author Share Posted January 21, 2011 Boeing is now being run by bean-counters, this is a tragic mistake. That said, KMEM - can you tell me how I have mocked Rush Limbaugh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Also sounds like the "rub". What did he do after he told you that? Yes, the 'dry rub.' You know those Germans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMEM Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I thought we were talking about technology and now you switch to BBQ. Best regards, KMEM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I thought I was talking about those Germans. As, like you, a rooter for Boeing, it does give me no end of pleasure to watch the Germans and French inside EADS forever struggling to forebear each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
instudiocity Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 As, like you, a rooter for Boeing, it does give me no end of pleasure to watch the Germans and French inside EADS forever struggling to forebear each other. ME, THREE! My bro worked for and now consults with airlines. He says EADS can't build a good plane because they can't decide - wine or beer with lunch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMEM Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 LOL. Best regards, KMEM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 EADS can't build a good plane because they can't decide - wine or beer with lunch! That is the damned truth! I used to consult to a now-extinct French software company. First time there, my jaw dropped when we went in to lunch at 11:45 am, to a table set with foie gras pate and Sauternes. Followed by 2 more wine pairings with the main course and dessert. After that, we all pretended to go back to work, but you can imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MsGuy Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 my jaw dropped when we went in to lunch at 11:45 am, to a table set with foie gras pate and Sauternes. Followed by 2 more wine pairings with the main course and dessert. After that, we all pretended to go back to work, but you can imagine. Hahahahahaha, AS, you read my mind. I prefer my aviation engineers stone cold sober. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ honcho Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 In my job I did some support work for a visiting researcher in computer-security (doing Mobile-IPv6) from EADS. He was quite sharp; If you laugh them off, you might live to regret it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
instudiocity Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Boeing Thinks It Will Soon. Boeing Co. executives on Wednesday said they were confident that they would deliver between 25 and 40 new 787 and 747-8 aircraft this year, despite persistent delays that have set both programs back by years. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703293204576105722792053588.html?mod=rss_whats_news_us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ glutes Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 Look at my OP that is nearly 2 years old! Boeing Co. executives on Wednesday said they were confident that they would deliver between 25 and 40 new 787 and 747-8 aircraft this year, despite persistent delays that have set both programs back by years. http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSSPd4K89NXH96157sjup0xNUGDctJGQKq4F1TCgUA49JBHUhGrSw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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