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Wonder if Faux News will run this clip:

 

The following are remarks by former President George H. W. Bush at the Dedication Ceremony for the George Bush Center for Intelligence (CIA), given on Apr. 26, 1999. They are hosted at the CIA website here.

 

"Even though I'm a tranquil guy now at this stage of my life, I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who betray the trust by exposing the name of our sources," he remarked. "They are, in my view, the most insidious, of traitors."

 

"We need more human intelligence," he said in 1999. "That means we need more protection for the methods we use to gather intelligence and more protection for our sources, particularly our human sources, people that are risking their lives for their country."

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RE: As Plame investigation unfolds. or maybe not, Tony Blair

 

One of sad aspects of politics is that leaders like Mr Bush can't be held accountable for quotes. To be fair, have pity for the President. Quotes or unquotes, these days he's under enormous pressure, he's in the midst of choosing a new Supreme Court nominee to replace outgoing Justice Sandra Day O'Conner. It's the first time in eleven years when a President had to chose a Supreme Court nominee. In fact Mr Bush should take a look at history. I believe current Justice Ruth Ginsberg was President Clinton's fourth nominee before finally being confirmed to the bench. Also President Bush finds himself at odds with Prime Minister Tony Blair in pledging more aid to Africa as well as Mr Blair's push to do more to stop global warming.

 

Offcourse as Mr Bush arrived in Scotland for the G8 summit meeting earlier yesterday. He was given the priviledge to drive. Apparently big mistake thanks to his stupidity he almost ran over a police man on patrol. Mr Bush escaped with minor cuts while the police man is suffering from a broken ankle. The White House achknowledged this is typical practice for Mr Bush. In other words, Mr Bush is an idiot. So as to the future, I feel sorry for the Residents of Crawford, Texas. When Mr Bush leaves office in early 2009, the residents will have to put up with his driving.

 

Let's look at Mr Blair, now this is a man who has suffereed politically because of quotes, dossiers, allegations by former cabinet members, most notably former Foreign Secretary Robin Cook on the war in Iraq. This is a leader who only two months ago the Brit media were openly demanding his resignation sooner rather than later. Mr Blair felt otherwise, now he has two aims, one is to best Mrs Thatcher's record as Britain's longest serving Prime Minister from 1979-1990. Mr Blair could be within striking distance or more or less a photo finish. The other being legacy, he wants to end his leadership with results both internally in Britain as well as externally with Britain's reputation around the world.

 

Still Mr Blair has a lot to celebrate and certainly within the last few days. Prime Minister Blair is hosting the G8 meeting in Scotland. This past weekend Live Aid was a tremendous success and even though Mr Blair had nothing to do with the organsising of the event. It made him look good to be seen with Bono and Bob Geldoff. The biggest shocker of them all, the IOC announced that London will host the 2012 Summer Olympics. The city of London managed to beat out New York and Paris. I dont think most Americans even realised that New York was one of the bidders to hold the summer olympics. As for the French, they're brooding, they ought to bugger off and bury their heads in the dirt, history is still unkind to the bloody La Froggies. Mr Blair had lobbied really hard and also David Beckham did his lobbying in Tokyo. It's a great day for London and it's simply fantastic for the United Kingdom. It's a great moment in time for the English. It's moments like this that make me realise why the UK is the best in the world.

 

Anyways as for President George W Bush, he should pray by his bedside, if the democrats were to recapture the House or the Senate ( a long shot to the say the least ), then all the quotes of his entire presidency concerning Iraq will come back to haunt him and who knows if he'll be able to avoid impeachment hearings. Or otherwise if Republicans hold on to the legislative brach, he can gloat that he's the first president in a long time not be under federal investigations for wrongdoings. Still the President has got to be wishing to be in Tony Blair's position right now. A life of poltical envy.

 

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RE: As Plame investigation unfolds. or maybe not, Tony Blair

 

>I just want to know why the loathesome Robert Novak isn't in

>jail, too! x(

 

 

This is a good question. Also what happens for hyppthetical reasons if in fact Karl Rove does turn out to the source of the leaks. Will the White House ask Mr Rove, will democrats call upon the Justice Department to hold hearings of Mr Rove's alleged involvement. Only time will tell.

 

As for Robert Novak, he's got to avoiding Ambassador Wilson and his wife like a runaway plague. Also it's nice to know that Mrs Wilson has gone back to work only this time with a desk job. As far as I'm concerned Mr Novak should be put on trial for treason. Due to his big mouth, he could have put her life in danger. Novak started this whole mess and therefore it should end with him, starting with a public apology to Mr & Mrs Wilson and to the country for being a gullible twit. He deserves some prison time.

 

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Guest jeffOH

RE: Lettin' the Rove Express Head Off the Tracks On Its Own:

 

7/6/2005

Lettin' the Rove Express Head Off the Tracks On Its Own:

 

The Rude Pundit's not jumpin' on the "Oh-Please-Oh-Fuckin'-Please-Let-Karl-Rove-Burn" train. The President's porcine political advisor, at the very least, "made contact" with soon-to-be-imprisoned Time magazine reporter Matt Cooper regarding the outing CIA operative Valerie Plame, wife of former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, as revenge for Wilson calling "bullshit" on the Bush administration's allegation that Iraq tried to get uranium from Niger. No, no, the Rude Pundit will tamp down his Pavlovian erection of joy at hearing that Karl Rove is even momentarily in trouble.

 

He will not offer vivid fantasy descriptions of Rove being dragged in handcuffs out of the White House, snorting like a harpooned whale dragging a frigate behind it. He will not take pleasure in the potentially deeply gratifying feeling of schadenfreude that accompanies such hideously hard and enormously well-deserved falls. The Rude Pundit won't do it. He won't allow himself to get caught up in imagining Karl Rove in prison, after his first kitchen utensil sodomizing, screaming like the yapping bitch he's about to become that he'll give up the President in order to be allowed cushy country club confinement, and then, oh, what glorious chaos.

 

And why won't the Rude Pundit participate in the bone-shaking jouissance of praying to God, Jesus, Allah, or whoever or no one that it truly, really is Rove that gave up Plame's name? Because the Rude Pundit's been there before with the Republicans teetering on the brink of damnation, only to see them pulled back from the lapping flames time and again. To be sure, this could mean just the administration of George W. Bush, which, in a real democracy, would have crumbled into heaps of ashes a hundred times already. How our hearts were shattered after the 9/11 Commission Report, the Gannon/Guckert affair, and more.

 

Instead, though, the Rude Pundit hearkens back to his greatest heartbreak, the Iran-Contra scandal of the end of the Reagan era, when Reagan's dementia made it just pathetic to watch him and unlikely that the Congress would, through impeachment, beat up on an old man heading towards the oblivion of being an Alzheimer's-ridden throw pillow. So we all thought it might be possible to take down George Bush, Sr., except the motherfucker went and pardoned everyone that might've given him up for a softer bunk at the federal pen.

 

Yep, Cap Weinberger, Elliott Abrams, Clair George and other liars and criminals were given the bestest Christmas gift ever on December 24, 1992 when Bush covered his ass by pardoning all six "for their conduct related to the Iran-Contra affair." Now, what do you think the chances are that Junior wouldn't do the same thing in a heartbeat for Rove or anyone else that might give him up?

 

Of course, Rove has gone all silent on this matter, which is kind of nice, since he had been making the talk show rounds, forcing his rotundly evil face onto TV screens.

 

But, frankly, if special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald really wants to get the truth out of Rove, well, there's probably no better method than the Gitmo/Abu Ghraib treatment, certainly approved by Rove himself. Strip that fucker's clothes off, tie him to the floor, make him shit himself, slap his balls, threaten his family, deny him legal representation and due process, hang him by his wrists, and tell him that you're gettin' the dogs ready to fuck him. Or send him to Uzbekistan and have them "question" him. Motherfucker'll claim he crucified Jesus after those bastards get done with him.

 

Update: Hokay, so Matt Cooper folded like he was two cards short from a straight, and now, ding-dong, Judith Miller's gone to jail.

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RE: As Plame investigation unfolds. or maybe not, Tony Blair

 

Mr Blair felt otherwise, now he has

>two aims, one is to best Mrs Thatcher's record as Britain's

>longest serving Prime Minister from 1979-1990. Mr Blair could

>be within striking distance or more or less a photo finish.

>The other being legacy, he wants to end his leadership with

 

For the record, Mrs. Thatcher is not the longest serving Prime Minister in history; rather that honour goes to William Pitt the Younger, who served for over 20 years cumulatively. Mr. Blair is the longest serving Labour Prime Minister in history however, and is the youngest Prime Minister ever to take office in the UK.. It is hard to imagine that he will ever achieve the distinction of being the longest serving PM, however, given his mistakes and the way the media chews up politicians these days. While he is still young, as politicians go, he would have to serve 12 more years or until 2017 at the earliest, when he would still be under 65 years of age. Still, that's a long time from now!

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RE: As Plame investigation unfolds. or maybe not, Tony Blair

 

>Karl Rove has no protection from the law (other than corrupt

>pull). All it takes is one courageous prosecutor and the

>fucker does not pass "go," he ends up directly in jail!

 

Never in a million....... you're dreamin'

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~~President Bush frequently invokes "national security" as if it were a Buddhist mantra. Now it is revealed White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove may have deliberately outed undercover CIA agent Valerie Plame.

 

Could White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan or some other Bush official can plausibly explain how outing Plame advanced our country's national security?

 

 

 

 

~~ A quote from President Bush on Oct. 10, 2004: "If there's a leak out of my administration, I want to know who it is. . . . If the person has violated the law, that person will be taken care of."

 

Define "taken care of."

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What do you think should happen to Rove?

He should be fired 72%

Too soon to say 14%

Nothing 11%

He should be reprimanded 3%

 

What do you think will happen to Rove?

Nothing 56%

Too soon to say 17%

He will be fired 15%

He will be reprimanded 12%

 

Total Votes: 105,466

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Guest Merlin

Our national security was advanced by informing the public that Wilson's trip and report were a sham, contrived by Wilson and his disloyal wife, working together to discredit her superiors for partisan reasons.

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>Our national security was advanced by informing the public

>that Wilson's trip and report were a sham, contrived by Wilson

>and his disloyal wife, working together to discredit her

>superiors for partisan reasons.

 

Merlin, how can you continue to perpetuate the lies of Fox "News", Rxush and Sean Vanity? Wilson's trip was not a sham and his information was 100% accurate. Rove came up with this smear campaign and against Wilson because he refused to lie for the Administration. Rove subsequently outed Plame in retaliation. But you keep quoting the RNC talking "points" like a good little neocon.

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I thought this was rather interesting, guess the fly-over state folks can't handle Dubya's rough language:

 

KANSAS CITY, Missouri (AP) -- It may be President Bush's nickname for key political adviser Karl Rove, but some editors don't think it belongs in their newspapers.

 

About a dozen papers objected to Tuesday's and Wednesday's "Doonesbury" comic strips, and some either pulled or edited them.

 

The strips refer to Rove, the White House deputy chief of staff, as "Turd Blossom."

 

Lee Salem, editor at Kansas City-based Universal Press Syndicate, which distributes the strip to 1,400 papers, said the complaints from 10 to 12 newspapers weren't unexpected. As opposed to other times when editors have objected to Doonesbury content, the syndicate did not send out replacement strips.

 

"Given the coverage of Karl Rove, we thought it was appropriate, especially given the history of the strip," Salem said.

 

Doonesbury's creator, Garry Trudeau, has infuriated some editors over the years with his language, images and political themes. An e-mail to Trudeau wasn't immediately returned Tuesday.

 

Salem said that since newspapers don't have to notify the syndicate when they choose to remove a strip, it's impossible to know how many papers ran Tuesday's comic.

 

In the strip, Bush and an aide are lamenting the problems the administration has had over allegations that Rove leaked the name of a CIA officer to reporters.

 

Bush says, "Karl's sure been earnin' his nickname lately."

 

The unnamed aide says, "Boy Genius? I'm not so sure sir ..."

 

Bush then says, "Hey Turd Blossom! Get in here."

 

The term is said to be one of several nicknames Bush uses for Rove, one of his closest allies and who is widely credited for Bush's election in 2000 and re-election in 2004. The mainstream U.S. media have rarely mentioned the nickname, but it has gained traction in the international press and on the Internet.

 

Among those with concerns was the Providence (Rhode Island) Journal, whose editors removed the offensive word from the strip's final panel.

 

"I didn't think (taking out the word) hurt it," Executive Editor Joel Rawson said. "I would prefer to run the strip and if we can edit it, that's fine."

 

Other papers, such as The Kansas City Star, removed the strip entirely, replacing it with an older one.

 

"We thought it was in bad taste and probably unclear to a lot of people why we would be using the term," said Steve Shirk, the Star's managing editor/news.

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>Merlin, how can you continue to perpetuate the lies of Fox

>"News", Rxush and Sean Vanity? Wilson's trip was

>not a sham and his information was 100% accurate.

 

 

Not according to the 911 Commission.

 

Do you know something they don't?

 

If you do, they'd like to hear from you. Otherwise, put a cork in your blow hole. We've got a war going on and we don't need people like you lying about the facts.

 

Demurely yours,

 

FFF

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>>Merlin, how can you continue to perpetuate the lies of Fox

>>"News", Rxush and Sean Vanity? Wilson's trip was

>>not a sham and his information was 100% accurate.

>

>Not according to the 911 Commission.

>

>Do you know something they don't?

>

>If you do, they'd like to hear from you. Otherwise, put a cork

>in your blow hole. We've got a war going on and we don't need

>people like you lying about the facts.

>

>Demurely yours,

>

>FFF

 

FFF, you've apparently been drinking the Kool Aid again, because the real 9/11 report reads much differently from the Republican version. The only lies being spread about are from you and your friends at Fox "News".

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Merlin must be feeling pretty foolish by now. I doubt that Cheney will get indicted, but there is mud all over him. His antics against Plame and her husband were an effort to further the lies he spread (through Judy Miller!) about WMD in Iraq. So many lives have been lost because of this man's treachery.

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