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Dear Theron:

 

We have had very friendly encounters on this message center and once, not too long ago, even chatted for a little bit, using AOL Instant Messenger. I respect you for your involvement in worthwhile causes you have mentioned including fighting oppression against GLBTs, hate crimes and related issues. I had expected that your presence on this board would be a very positive addition, germinating interesting posts and perspectives to others' ideas.

 

Now, I would guess that if posters had to identify the most annoying posters on this message center, I would be among the most annoying 3 or 5 on most peoples' list so I know whereof I speak. Why are you vying for Number 1?

 

Today, several posters started threads questioning why there are less posts than there have been in the past. One was sort of interesting because they thought people were much more interested in the "sexy" threads than in threads which discussed politics or non-sexual issues. Another questioned whether much of the flaming (which you have dived into wholeheartedly over the past few weeks) has driven posters off.

 

WHY, OH WHY, did you take your infernal, very tired diatribe against the multiple personalities which you see on this board into one of these threads if not to co-opt that too?

 

I am asking if you will participate, with your unique perspective and knowledge, in some of the more interesting threads on this board. I would love to hear what you have to say about these issues.

 

I am also asking if you must continue these diatribes would you please start up a new thread identifying it clearly as repeating what you have said OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER AGAIN about multiple-personality posters. If these nefarious characters would like to weigh in from time to time, let them. If you feel the need to make a new post on this thread, do so and it will make the thread visible to everyone until everyone gets bored with it and it dies a natural death.

 

Now I like to play on the internet and on message centers as much as the next girl, but...

 

Best,

Jizz

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Guest Lucky (Guest)

Jizz, where is the picture? Since I like your pictures, how can you be the most annoying one on the board? Let someone else have that title. You are queen of beauty pics from place I would never find.

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Guest Theron

Hello, Jizz :-)

 

Thank you for sharing your opinions with me. I always and respect sincere heart felt praises and criticisms.

 

So you think that you are one of the more annoying posters here? All I can say is I have found you to be intelligent, and also somone with a great sense of humor --BIG SMILE.

 

I'm sorry if I have become annoying for some, or even many. I consider it a symptom of an even larger problem. I cannot take accountability for the current state of affairs in the Message Center. I'm surprised to learn there are some who would like for me too. There has been a great deal of negativity and oppressive behavior that has gone on here for a very long time. I guess many have been willing to over look the behavior of a few bad apples. It is the activities and behavior of those type of people who have put the Message Center in its curret state. I just have not been willing to over look it, and have actually attempted to hold one of the bigger bullies on the block accountable. It is a shame that others have not put a stop to that type of behavior a long time ago, but they did not. Instead, they continued to respond to the person in positive ways, which only encourages the negative behavior. I can drop this all tomorrow, but it will not fix the problem, it will only reduce some of the tension. It was King who said, "Peace is not the absense of conflict, but the presence of justice." If I let this drop the same few negative people who have very successfully spread poision throughout the Message Center will still be fast at work, so why shoot the messenger in the foot? If people are tired of the negativity here then why not start holding some of the people who have been most responsible for spreadig it, over an extended period of time, accountable to discourage their behavior? If more people did that then my voice would not echo alone, and maybe the right people would get the message and it would stop. Has anyone ever issued an open letter to any of these individuals and asked them to stop some of the negative behavior they are well noted for?

 

I do feel there are quite a few interesting and positive things I can contribute. I actually look forward to doing that. It is the reason I want to be a part of this Message Center. I'm not here as an escort to promote myself. Basically, I have very little concern, really no concern, about the possibility of obtaining clients through use of the Message Center -- if it happened, great, but if not no big deal. I want to be able to come here and communicate openly, honestly and in an environment that is not known for its hostility towards escorts and each other. Presently, that is not the current state of affairs here, and sadly, it is due to a select few. Perhaps, I am totally remiss for trying to change that? I guess I mistakenly believed that if a few bad apples could spoil things for so many that a few good apples could stand up to them and give them a dose of their own medicine, and maybe if enough people did it we could discourage the behavior. Instead, possibly I've become more annyoing than the bullies, themselves, and that sends a real positive message back to them: Go ahead and keep right on doing what you always have been doing, and if anyone tries to take you on or challenge it they can become the issue.

 

People, I think you are addressing the wrong problem. Before you are ever going to eradicate the Message Center from the hostility and negitivity many are going to need to stand up and draw the line in the sand, to a few, that certain types of behavior will not be tolerated. Think about it.

 

Once thing is certain, it is clear that no one person can do it alone. I had hoped people would join me in stamping this out, and together we could reclaim the message center. I recoginized that it would not be a pleasant task, but felt it would be a worthy one. If I am going to be alone then I might as well drop this, but remember folks, in a few months, when you are still complaining about the negativity in the Message Center, the same way you were a few months ago, that it is due to the fact that a lot of good people are allowing a few people to create a lot of conflict because it would create way too much tension to stand up to them and tell em to go suck an egg.

 

And, Jizz, I still appreciate what you shared. I've lost no respect for you, at all. Please realize, this response is not directed at you, but to anyone who cares to read it, in response to an open letter to me. This all said, I hereby fold up my soap box and retire my quest, but frankly, if I am going to drop this I would greatly appreciate people not whining about the negativity they have allowed to continue and grow in the Message Center -- but realize I probably will hear about it. It is often the nature of people to avoid conflict, even if it allows a problem to continue, and then whine about it later.

 

Theron

Based Out of Chicago

http://theronb.homestead.com/files/home.html

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RE: a bucolic summer's eve at the M4M Message Center. PIC

 

Jizz, now you're even getting on MY nerves. I've got plenty of bandwidth but this picture added nothing to the discussion.

 

Could you stop it please?

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sssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

 

sssshhhhhhhh! you'll startle the cows. very peaceful in here right now. did you notice?

 

worth it's weight in bandwidth.

 

peace,

jizz

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Guest Esc_Tracker

Theron,

 

As I have tried to explain before, we tried arguing with them in the past, but they would never let go. So until you came along and shot our game plan we were attempting to deal with the negative types by ignoring them. It was beginning to work. They hate to be ignored. By arguing with them ad nauseam you have simply given them more pixel time than they have ever enjoyed before. This is the source of the resentment some of us are beginning to feel towards you. Congratulations. :-(

 

Frankly I don't even know why I am even bothering trying to convince you as you seem as impervious to common sense as they are over this issue. I swear that if you rise to the bait one more time, I won't read any of *your* posts from now on either. x(

 

Esc-Tracker

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Esc-T is so correct! Back when we were on the old, old (well, a couple of years?) software, I used to chase Reggie away by starting to fling girl-talk at him. Do not think, young friend, that you are the first to sound the horn. Another thread today talks about cycles in here. This is one of the things that goes in cycles. Yes, ignoring them works most of the time. Then, after you have ignored them sufficiently, you will come to value them, perhaps. Contrary to the old saw, a few bad apples don't spoil the basket, not if you realize that they are there and make cider with them. If you wait a few months and then talk very, very carefully to him, you will probably actually find something of value in one of your conversations with him. It's happened to me. I've seen it happen recently with Jizz. Right now, whenever your mouth wants to say something mean to him, stuff a dick in it. One definition of insanity - see #10 on another thread - is to continue to do the same thing and expect the outcome to be different.

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RE: sssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

 

As someone who has been on the net since the early '80s, I have to concur that "shunning" is the only really effective method of managing bad elements that I have seen.

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shunning?

 

i'm sorry, Charon, but if you look closely they seem to be sipping and grazing.

 

peace,

jizz

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The Bottom Line Of The Pictures

 

Jizz,

 

I actually pay money for all those 1's & 0's that create the megabytes of pictures that you post willy-nilly and find so amusing. I have no problem with it, but it may get expensive.

 

Shall I send you a bill or are you just going to systematically pay me for the bandwidth that you find so entertaining? :-)

 

HooBoy

Email: [email protected]

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Guest jizzdepapi

RE: The Bottom Line Of The Pictures

 

Dear HB:

 

Of course, you may bill me.

 

Now, my creative solution to the Theron--Reggie et. al. battle cost some text-only messages and 1 cow picture (black and white only, strategically chosen to indicate a message center where posters graze in a pasture of tranquility.) My creative solution, of course, which seems to have worked, :D is free of charge.

 

The last flaming thread you shutdown was 115 messages I believe and the newest was 109 messages or so.

 

Have I actually saved you some money and irritation?

 

Best,

Jizz

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RE: The Bottom Line Of The Pictures

 

Hey HB -

 

This is none of my business and please feel free to tell me so.

 

But if you're paying a monthly fee that's based on bandwidth, you might want to look at other options or other ISP's. It's pretty easy these days to get a monthly rate that's pretty low and includes either an unlimited amount of bandwidth or so much that it's hard to exceed.

 

Prices have definitely gone down -- you might want to check around just to make sure you've still got a good deal.

 

BG

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