What makes one "upscale"?

[Will]

Scott, I agree with you. A person who is truly at home in the world knows how to conduct himself in any situation so that he does not call attention to himself and does not make the people he is with feel uncomfortable.

 

I fail to understand the anger behind some of the replies to your independent-minded post. Why is it "good" to live in a trailer but "bad" to live in an apartment on Fifth Avenue? Why is it "real" to leave Frito bags on the floor but "pretentious" to throw them away? Why is it "natural" to listen to rock but "unnatural" to listen to Mozart?

 

I don't get the rationale here. What I do get is a rain of sour grapes and a badly, badly skewed sense of inclusiveness. This whole thread began with "I know this is subjective," and what I'd like to know is why some people's subjective opinions are cool and some other people's subjective opinions are not?

 

Talk about "upchuck." Methinks the lady doth protest too much.

[BgMstr4u]

With the injection of humor and satire, this thread has begun to wander a bit. As one of the the proponents of cultural preparedness on the part of an upscale escort, let me say that the MOST upscale quality in a client or in an escort is to be a gentleman.

 

A gentleman never makes another person feel small. A gentleman adjusts to whatever situation he finds himself in with grace and humor and accepts the people in it as equals. A gentleman enjoys the people he meets and works to make them feel interesting, important and valued. A gentleman is genuinely interested in whatever entertainment, social situation or topic of conversation is offered, and is ready to offer his own conversation which is appropriate to the people involved. These are not qualities which require a college education (though higher education certainly widens one's world, or can, if one does not simply drink beer and listen to loud music for four years), but they do require consideration for others and willingness to put one's own agenda second.

 

Many escorts (and many clients) are gentlemen in this sense, and, perhaps with the help of the famous Prada shoes (click heels three times, Dorothy...), well on their way to being upscale.

[Guest jizzdepapi]

Who is Scott?

 

hi Will. did I miss a post somewhere on this thread? and is there someone else who has sex and fritos all mixed up?

 

thanks,

jizz

[Will]

Say AMEN somebody!

[Barry]

AMEN!!!!!!!!!

[Guest nathan]

This is from an escort's point of view, if I may be forgiven for providing it

 

An "upscale" escort should be someone who is groomed, well presented, well-spoken and knowledgeable/educated...basically, more of a companion or courtesan than a partner for sex. An "upscale" escort should be a person who is presentable anywhere - and not make it obvious that he is an escort.

 

My best advice would be to sound out a potential "upscale" escort via e-mail or telephone. Through this, you can determine if he will be a suitable partner for the evening you have in mind.

 

If a client is planning a gala theatre evening, freely query you chosen escort(s) regarding their knowledge of theatrical productions. If you are going to an art function - query your escort's knowledge beforehand. At the end of the day, it will make the experience more enjoyable for you, the client. The client and the escort can actually converse and enjoy the experience.

 

For instance, I entertain a number of gentlemen from the world of finance. I made it a point to learn about the financial world and to keep abreast of the financial markets. I do this to have interesting and engaging conversations that will be of interest to these clients. And I actually get something out of it as well – which is an added bonus.

 

Clients should never be afraid to ask specific questions in order to gauge whether or not a potential escort will be suitable. Gauging whether an escort is upscale or not should be as important as whether he is a top/bottom/versatile or cut/uncut or whatever other sexual criteria is important.

 

I hope this helps.

[Guest Nice Guy]

When I think of "UP SCALE" I think of an event... not an indivual. I personally know Escorts who I tend to put into catagories, fair or not! If I enjoy certain types of events or activities I usually ask a guy I feel fits that event. If someone is "meat and potatos" I don't head out for the French Riveria. I have been wrong mind you, but rarely. AND because of that WE tend to have a great time. None of this has anything to do with the price tag for the gent. Brett Silvers, for example, has been with me at black tie events and boating in Pudget Sound and loves it all. I think the word travels quickly as to who is worth the buck and who isn't. Many of the Porn guys are buying into their own PR. And I for one won't and don't pay that ticket price. Nino Bacci is an exception as well as Michael Brandon... both are great in and out of bed. But I happen to like them both as individuals first and formost, so I could be jaded.

I think it simply boils down to chemestry. It happens or it doesn't! Both the client and the escort can get through an hour.... hell or high water, but try a couple of days and see how "up scale" that is!!

Nice Guy

[Guest TFNH]

Delusions of grandeur, both on the part of the escort and the client, as though somehow the ability to be articulate, etc.,etc.,etc. changes in some way what the basic transaction taking place is really all about. It's all about marketing that creates illusions and fuels aspirations.

[Bilbo]

TT - There are those wonderful times which can even exist completely outside of any sex. While most of us think within the box, some color outside of the lines. What I can imagine, I can be sure actually happens somewhere, in some form. And I imagine, and sell through my website, escorting which doesn't have sex involved. And so do others, many calling it Sacred Intimacy Sessions (although, yes, many of them, in many locales do include sex). I remember Colorado Springs, my hometown and the location of a major gay benevolent foundation but still better known for all of its bible colleges and conservatives, passing a law legalizing escorting, which it certainly couldn't get away with if its definition included sex. So click those red heels together three times, Dorothy, and open your mind - you are at home already.

 

Note how the price, at least at a good, upscale resale shop, of a tux is equal to no more than two escorting sessions. Perhaps one way to tell a really, really upscale escort would be to ask if he has his own tux already or would have to rent?

[Bilbo]

Oops, addenda

 

Meant to sign off that last post with my website address

 

http://www.rainbowprod.com/bilbo

[Guest cmp]

Ok, but what is the difference between an allnighter and an overnighter? I need to know, in order to stop being a downscale client. Please help me!

[Barry]

Couldn't find them in the dictionary :-) but my take would be.

 

Allnighter = virtually non-stop sex all night.

 

Overnighter = several hot sweaty sex sessions mixed with possibly dinner, a show and definitely sleep.

[OceanTraveller]

RE: Oops, addenda

 

Upscale to me ... signifies someone who is comfortable in any situation from a casual ball game to an evening in a six star restaurant in a tux or dinner jacket. He is well educated and can converse on a number of topics He would also be one who could take over and be wonderful in the bedroom as well. An upscale escort would have no attitude , but would probably have a little higher fee to cover for the fact that they were the total package. An upscale escort is honest and trustworthy. To make a long story short ...he is a dream come true !

[Guest cmp]

Thanks. I wouldn't be able to keep up with one of these two forms of entertainment. Anyway, it's good to theoretically know the difference. It makes one feel a little upscale. Or does it now?

[Guest cmp]

RE: Oops, addenda

 

And the color of the little diamond on the forehead of his white horse would be...

[Bilbo]

RE: Oops, addenda

 

We're all in the mud. Some of us are reaching for the stars. As they say.

[Guest Joey Ciccone]

>Delusions of grandeur, both on the

>part of the escort and

>the client, as though somehow

>the ability to be articulate,

>etc.,etc.,etc. changes in some way

>what the basic transaction taking

>place is really all about.

 

Grandeur? Maybe that would be the case if a client thought his escort could help him become the King of Prussia, but I wouldn't classify the "illusion" that a client may develop regarding his own desirability as grandeur. It's far more basic than that. What it's really all about for many clients is not just sex. You can fuck anybody, but you can't always have a goodtime with just anybody if you don't connect upstairs. Some clients want more than sex, and "what it's really all about" is different for many. In the case of an escort, the grand delusions mentioned are certainly existent, as evidenced in the posts by a few of the egos that occassionally weigh in on this site.

 

>It's all about marketing

>that creates illusions and fuels

>aspirations.

 

Is an intelligent escort with good manners an illusion? There are many in the world who find an intellectual attraction far more enticing than a physical attraction, so an escort with a brain who can also articulate himself would necessarily not be illusory or marketing a ploy; articulate and smart is all it is and some clients find that sexy. Those whose tastes run deeper than the superficial. To claim that all escorts market illusions is like saying every escort works on Madison Avenue and makes a fantastic salary writing copy for an ad agency. If I did that, I wouldn't be an escort. Personally, I'm no intellectual, and I'm certainly no illusion pushing magician, but I'm at least interesting and always a gentleman. I sell my body and my time. If a client wants to spin that into a fantasy, I'm happy to help him live out that fantasy, but am always careful to stress to that client that in no way, shape, or form, will I be able to aid him in his aspirations to become the King of Prussia.

 

As for what makes an escort advertise as being "upscale", I think it means they think they look great in a suit, and that they want the client to take them someplace fancy so they can eat an expensive meal in their tailored Armani and blather on about their own achievements. Also, in their minds, "upscale" means "big tip".

An escort who truly is upscale, as described by Will for instance, would probably never use the term "upscale" in his ad. I would think he wouldn't flaunt his degrees of education (if he had any) from some "upscale" institution. I have an even greater hope that an upscale escort wouldn't buy into the elitist notion of having "at minimum an undergraduate degree in liberal arts from a reputable college, if not a graduate degree", as some broad minded individual in this thread mentioned. Does this guy want see his escorts "papers" before he'll hire? Only the purest breeds come with papers. I hope that posters' comment was a joke. That kind of prerequisite from a client breeds contempt for those whose backgrounds couldn't enable a reputable college education. How genteel is that? Lots of folks in this world can be "upscale" without ever having set foot in an institution of higher learning. School isn't the only place to learn how to be not only a gentleman, but a decent human being as well.

[Guest DickHo]

RE: Oops, addenda

 

We're all in the gutter, but some of us are facing up...

[bluenix]

Joey, after reading your post I'm thinking, "Yeow!" You are so right. Nobody who actually IS upscale would be caught dead claiming so. Nuff said...

 

Ha ha, just kidding. Somebody will have something to say, no doubt ;-)

[bluenix]

RE: Oops, addenda

 

Reminds me of the Raquel Welch comment years ago when she was in the midst of divorce from her manager husband. He had been quoted as saying that he found her in the gutter and made her what she was today. Her comeback: "Maybe he did find me in the gutter, but I wasn't exactly flat-chested and toothless." You go, girl.

[Guest cassius]

>Delusions of grandeur, both on the

>part of the escort and

>the client, as though somehow

>the ability to be articulate,

>etc.,etc.,etc. changes in some way

>what the basic transaction taking

>place is really all about.

> It's all about marketing

>that creates illusions and fuels

>aspirations.

 

I'm guessing you mean the delusion that the escort is something other than a paid escort or the delusion that what is happening is something other than one person being paid to make himself pleasant and sexually available to the other.

[Bilbo]

Joey, It didn't take me long when first living on my own to realize that the Elegante Apartments are anything but elegant. And most Olde Fashioned Whatevers are cheap new plastic. Not that there's anything wrong with cheap new plastic, if that's what you're in the mood for. But then, what's wrong with making a man feel like a king? So, no, perhaps one shouldn't advertise as being "upscale" but one should unblushingly answer the question in the affirmative if one is asked so bluntly.

[Guest Joey Ciccone]

>...perhaps one shouldn't advertise as being "upscale" but one should unblushingly answer the question in the affirmative if one is asked so bluntly<

 

Agreed, but would a truly "upscale" client even put such a question directly to his possible escort? It seems to me that a discreet assessment on one's own would be more tactful and genteel. And make no mistake, all of my clients are kings of our private and fleeting domains, with me their most loyal subject, in a manner of speaking.

 

rentjoey@hotmail.com

[OceanTraveller]

RE: Oops, addenda

 

Oh it would not be a little diamond !! It would be a 5 carat, wide table , no occlusion , sparkling cut ... to match his sparkling personality !!!!!!!

[BgMstr4u]

This is in response to Joey Ciccone's thoughtful remarks a few messages up, especially as he is responding to me.

 

"I have an even greater hope that an upscale escort wouldn't buy into the elitist notion of having "at minimum an undergraduate degree in liberal arts from a reputable college, if not a graduate degree", as some broad minded individual in this thread mentioned. Does this guy want see his escorts "papers" before he'll hire? Only the purest breeds come with papers. I hope that posters' comment was a joke. "

 

I accept this criticism. It is certainly true that a person does not need a degree to have a college degree to be an appropiate person in many situations. But he does need to be educated, and there are many ways of getting that education -- ways open, interestingly, to escorts that might not be open to the rest of us as they may come into contact with people of many different interests and capacities. I have learned that in fact a lot of intelligent escorts have taken advantage of this benefit and become genuinely cultivated people as a result. I regret the exclusivism in my original comment.

 

"That kind of prerequisite from a client breeds contempt for those whose backgrounds couldn't enable a reputable college education. How genteel is that? Lots of folks in this world can be "upscale" without ever having set foot in an institution of higher learning. School isn't the only place to learn how to be not only a gentleman, but a decent human being as well."

 

Again, criticism acccepted. I certainly don't mean my desire for cultivated companionship to require a educational prerequisite for an escort and absolutely do not ever want to breed contempt for anyone. But I will stand by my one central point: when I take an escort to a concert, play or social event I want him to be able to enter into it and enjoy it along with me. In my experience, that requires some preparation or education -- and I am glad Joey reminded us that college is not the only place to get it.