human sphincters, or assholes!

[Matt_Vancouver]

Can someone explain to me what goes through someones mind when they book an overnight appointment a month ahead of the date, then even though the escort called them three days before the scheduled date to confirm, pulls a no show??

This happened to me tonight. A seemingly decent guy emails me a month ago trying to set something up for when he is in Vancouver. We agree on a date and time via email. He asks that I call him, which I did...several times, on my dime. We speak on the phone, everything seems great. He mentioned he'd like to go to dinner at a nice seafood restaurant with a view, I do a bit of research, find the perfect place, make a reservation.

The night arrives, I call the hotel he said he would be at, an hour before our scheduled meeting time to confirm once again....I'm put through to his room, I get the answering service...no biggie, he's in the showere I think to myself. I leave a message for him to call me, because even though I have his name, I don't have his room #. no phone call.

I call back at the time we were supposed to have met...answering service.

I give him the benefit of the doubt...wait two more hours...call...^%##%& answering service.

 

I'm pissed, I did a lot of work in arranging this evening. More than should be required of me, but I did it nonetheless. The decent thing would have been to call and cancel. Sure I would have been upset, but not pissed! I only see one client/day, so once my day is booked, it's booked, I have to turn others away. So not only do I lose out on his business, but also other potential clients.

Not to mention wasting an entire evening sitting waiting for someone, for whom I've had the decency to make my time available without question, to call.

 

I understand that sometimes things come up, or people decide last minute ...today I'm not horny, whatever the reasons are, have the decency to make a quick one minute phone call so your not wasting my time.

matt(fucking furious at this kind of bullshit)(otherwise a really nice boy: )

http://go.to/mattsplace

matt_escort@yahoo.com

[Guest]

The guy was clearly a bastard SOB. I'm sorry to hear about your experience. I hope it doesn't happen too often. Any suggestions out there to avoid this situation in the future? I feel really bad for you...

[Guest jizzdepapi]

sorry to hear about this rude behavior, matt. i know how you feel because i've travelled to nyc on a prearranged overnite date and been stood up.

 

if it's any consolation, the man below most certainly would show up to paw at you a bit!

 

http://www.thebluegallery.com/rugby/content/images/rugby51.jpg

[+ deej]

You shouldn't have had that happen. The guy is clearly a jerk.

 

NOTE: I might have suggested he missed his flight, but you got through to his voice mail which means he arrived.

 

You shouldn't have to put up with this, sweets. Much has been written here about how bad escorts can be, and once in a while we touch on how bad clients can be. I think you landed one of the worst clients.

 

Come back to Chicago. I'll bring someone fun. (Corey, you're listening?)

 

Don't take it personally, babe. Men can be assholes. (Hell, look what's happened in this chat room recently!)

 

Just save the energy for the next encounter.

[Guest BenDover]

What a bummer. I s'pose its possible that some disaster happened that he couldn't avoid. But I say, blow some steam, call him a complete and perfect ass that you won't have to deal with. And know that you have my sympathy, and if I ever had the opportunity to connect with you, you can bet I wouldn't do the same.

[+ bigjoey]

unfortunately, this is part of being in business. the guy is a jerk. each year i write off hundreds of thousands of dollars in bad checks, bad charge cards and bad accounts; while some of these customers ran into trouble after incuring the charges most know at the time of the sale they are not going to pay (people who order one or two DAYS before a bankruptcy filing!). i my case, we figure a certain percent of our sales will be bad and figure that percent into our prices.

 

yes it hurts. i would guess that when you provide a personal service, it hurts more when you are ripped off; yes, the guy stole time from you. in the escort business, there are bad guys on both sides of the business transaction; hopefully, this is a rare occurance for you.

[Guest JustANametoPlay]

This of course sucks. Just as there are escorts that don't handle things the right way (and are down right scammers) the same applies to escorts.

 

However this happens every day in the world not just escorting. This doesn't excuse it, sadly a fact of life.

[Guest ChicagoCorey]

Deej -- Hell yeah, I'm listening!! As always, name the time...

 

Matt -- Last night must have been the night for getting jerked around. Someone went through elaborate measures to fuck with me yesterday evening as well.

 

I try to write it off as "It's part of the business, that's one of the 'unexpected expenses', etc." but it still just sucks.

 

 

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[guyinsf]

You have come across like such a nice guy to me here, Matt. It's too bad this happened to you. Sounds like the guy is a jerk, at least; I won't even let my cynical mind speculate about why he did this. I suppose a certain amount of flakiness (no shows, etc) comes with this business, but it's still annoying when it happens.

 

My suggestion to you is not to spend so much effort, in advance of meeting, to satisfy a first-time client. In this instance, let him call his hotel concierge or someone he knows in town to get a restaurant recommendation. Let him call you, on his dime (at least the first time).

 

I have found an escort whom I see regularly for overnighters. One of the things I enjoy doing with him is talking about the business. (Not specific, identifying information about clients, but just what a day in his life is like.) It seems to me, based on my conversations with him, that the better clients are more straight-forward: They contact him, chat a bit, and then set a date. Sometimes they need to reschedule, but that is also done in a clear manner. The times he has ended up wasting a lot of time (being stood up) are almost always preceded by some level of extraordinary efforts (especially multiple phone calls and extended chats trying to arrange the specifics of the meetings).

[Matt_Vancouver]

Hey that's my father!!!!!!

Just kidding: )

matt(not as pissed this morning)

http://go.to/mattsplace

matt_escort@yahoo.com

[Matt_Vancouver]

First I'd like to mention that part of why I am good at what I do, is because I am willing to put effort and energy into creating a satisfying evening for first time clients. So although this isn't the first time someone has pulled this, nor will it be the last, that will probably not change. Sure I could get jaded, and decide it's not worth the extra effort, but then it would effect every date in the future.

So I'm over it, I just needed to blow off some steam.

I wasn't expecting any response to this thread, I was just bitching it out of my system, and hoping that the guys who pull this kind of thing, read and realize what they are doing.

Thanx for all the kind words guys.

Matt(got a hot one set up for tonight with another local escort....should make me forget all about last night: )

http://go.to/mattsplace

matt_escort@yahoo.com

[Guest jizzdepapi]

daddy!!!!

 

matt: your mother called. don't know what's up but boy is she mad! x(

[Guest jeffOH]

Hey Matt...I had something similar happen to me a while back. I

prefer not to schedule an overnighter with a client unless I've

seen them previously, or if it is a new client I'll ask for at

least partial payment a few days prior. This can be a great way

to weed out the flakes. Also, I'd rather not do an overnight with

a client with whom I haven't had at least an hour session. They

can sample the goods and you'll have a better feel as to whether

or not you want to spend a whole night with them. I'm really

sorry to hear this happened to you, it sucks.

 

Jeff4hire@aol.com

[Matt_Vancouver]

I guess the difference is, that most of my appointments are overnighters, both frist time and established clientel.

So although I agree it would probably elliminate this sort of thing happenning in the future, I would miss out on a lot of first time encounters.

I personally like the thrill of not knowing who I'm going to be spending the night with, call me weird, but that's part of the sexual energy for me. psychologists...your analysis?

thanx for the advice though.

matt(on my way to buy some pretty fish to keep my lonely siamese fighter happy)

http://go.to/mattsplace

matt_escort@yahoo.com

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

"Can someone explain to me what goes through someones mind when they book an overnight appointment a month ahead of the date, then even though the escort called them three days before the scheduled date to confirm, pulls a no show??"

 

Well there are several possibilities...

 

"Oh, I forgot that QAF was on tonight... screw that escort -- I'm really a voyeur anyway. "

 

or

 

"My god, what if Harriet finds out about this or worse... Mom!!"

 

or

 

"Gee, I haven't done this before... am I a top or a bottom ?... What is a top?... What is a bottom? Hmmm, am I in over my head??"

 

or

 

"Why is that bus not stoppin..."

 

I prefer to believe it to be 'Harriet and Mom' or the "I haven't done this before" scenario myself, although they are all probably equally likely -- well, maybe not the bus, hopefully. I just perfer to think it a first timer who got cold feet or just cannot handle it rather than some asshole with a piss-poor attitude or someone meeting their demise on the way over.

[Guest Charon]

Or the "oh my god my first time with an escort, I need a drink, or three, or ten or ZZzzzzzz."

[Bilbo]

LOL! I once had a late night appointment and when I got there, he had left his hotel room door unlocked for me, as specified, and I just walked in, which didn't do either of us any good, anyway, because he had drunk himself to sleep and I couldn't get him to wake up even long enough to give me cabfare. And, no, I did not just take it out of his pants for him. How would he have known it was me?

[Bilbo]

Actually, I just thought of another possibility, which ties in with some other threads here. People on the internet often lose all track of time, other than counting the seconds while a screen uploads. Therefore, if you didn't go over there because he wouldn't answer his phone, and if the answering machine would come on when the phone was busy, and if he was plugged into the one phone line in the room with his computer while he is used to two phone lines at home, he may very well have been thinking in his own confused way, "Where is that extremely handsome young man? Why isn't he here? Why didn't he call me when he promised me that he would?" Then, the next morning, when he unplugged his phone, he does a forehead slap. - Just one more possibility.

[Guest cmp]

I've got an idea on how to handle this: write a no/no/no/no review and post it! Wait, maybe there already is a client review section in the escorts' private forum... Hoo and Daddy seem very ingenious, they probably thought of it long before I did. Our no-shows, hygiene or lack of it, snoring, the way we treat our boys, bellies, ridiculous dicks, tipping habits, bounced cheques? Waitaminute, so that's why all the escorts seem to be unavailable for me lately?

[Matt_Vancouver]

a little secret....there is no escorts only section. It was removed after an escort posted private subject matter in the public forum.

But I have heard all about you! Just kidding: )

matt(likes ridiculous dicks)

http://go.to/mattsplace

matt_escort@yahoo.com

[Guest ClassActMT]

I will echo the statements that yes, this is simply part of life and that it happens to everyone every once in a while. However, I really hope that clients will read this thread thoroughly and think about how much it inconveniences escorts when they do this. I had a similar situation this Saturday, but with a twist.

 

I had a Saturday night appointment with a regular client I have seen MANY times before, both in New York and in his city. It was this past Saturday, which as many of you know, was gay pride here in NYC. A very busy time every year. We had made this appointment two weeks ago, and as I said, I have seen him many times before, so I had no fears that it would not work out. He had arranged for a second escort to join us, and the scond guy cancelled a couple of days before, because he had "forgotten that it was pride" and he was going out partying with his friends. Not good form, because then I had to spend a great deal of time trying to find a suitable replacement (a super hung bottom who could take two dicks at once), and could not book someone.

 

So I spoke with the client in the late afternoon, and he had found someone himself. The only problem was that he would have to move the meeting time back a couple of hours. Not to my liking because I would have liked a little time for myself and my BF later in the evening, but I agreed to it because he is such a good regular client.

 

So after many phone calls to confirm and messages left on both his hotel room machine and cell phone, none of which were returned, I found myself cooling my heels in a cafe, alone, during one of the busiest nights of the year. I had turned down 3 other clients, as well as invitations to go out with friends and my BF, for this. So not only was I out the money for the appointment, but any money I might have made from other bookings.

 

In addition, I returned home later to open my AmEx bill, and I found that I had been erroneously charged for the hotel room I had stayed in with this SAME client 3 weeks prior in another city!! I had put my credit card down to pay for phone charges, and now I found that the hotel had charged both of our cards for the $700 in room charges! I realize that this last was not his fault, but it really pissed me off to find this out just after he stood me up!

 

Anyway, after I fired off an e-mail to him the next day, he apologized with a brief "Sorry, things got away from me that night..." and promised to call the hotel to get the charges removed.

 

I really like this guy, and I think he's genuine in his apology, but it still bothers me greatly that I don't think he appreciates the effort I went through to make the appointment happen, nor the inconvenience and grief it caused me.

[Guest jeffOH]

ClassActMT

 

I'd never see that asshole again if I were you. If he had an appt. with his doctor, attorney or whoever...he would have called

to explain why he couldn't make it.

 

I had a client, who's an attorney in Cinci., who I'd been seeing for nearly six years. He was driving up to see me here in

Columbus. We had set the appt. for 2:00pm. He was to call me

as he was arriving at his hotel and I was to meet him there.

Well, 2pm, no phone call. I called his cell to see if he was

running a few minutes late. He answered and said he'd been in a

meeting that had run late and he had just left 15 mins. ago. It's

an hour-and-a-half drive from Cinci. to Columbus, which would have put him here well after 3pm. He offered no apology at all.

He said he would hurry...I said fine, call me when you get

close to town. In the meantime, I sat here fuming. I was so

pissed. I had turned down a for sure client that I could have seen at 1pm had he called to say he was going to be late.

 

Well, when he did call a little after 3pm, he must have detected

my anger. He asked me if something was wrong!!! I said, "Damn

right something is wrong...no phone call to tell me you're going

to be late, made me miss out on seeing this other client. My

time is just as important as yours." Then he had the nerve to

say that I've been late coming to see him a couple of times...

we're talking 10 or 15 mins. here. That was it. I hung up on him.

I immediately blocked his cell, his home phone, and his office

phone so he couldn't call me. I'll admit, I did feel better know-

he had driven all that way just to see me and would have to

drive all the way back frustrated and horny. Thanks guys, it feels good to get that off my chest.

 

Jeff4hire@aol.com

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

Commitment and Responsibility

 

IMHO clients have a RESPONSIBILITY to keep the date or cancel with appropriate notice (whatever that is) or pay some part of the agreed fee otherwise. What part I'm not sure of... it probably varies depending on the circumstances -- but a substantial part. What about the guy who schedules only one client a day... and what if that's an overnight -- under that specific circumstance I think 50% is not out of line. Problem is... is that dead beat no shows aren't likely to be burdened by feelings of responsibility, but regulars should be.

 

On the other side of the coin, if an escort does a no show or cancels without appropriate notice then they should be RESPONSIBLE enough to reschedule the appointment gratis. Also dead beat no shows are likely to share the same burden of responsibility as dead beat clients :-( .

 

My comments should be tempered if there was a very LEGITIMATE REASON for the no show. I think part of this stems from the fact that we, clients and escorts, don't put ourselves in the other guy's shoes.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

RE: Commitment and Responsibility

 

Did not mean to imply unequal treatment for escorts... a healthy discounted appointment (eg. 50% in the above example) might suffice in place of the gratis appointment, depending on whether there was a room rental burned in the original appointment or not... the devil is in the details. :-)

[MiamiLooker]

RE: Commitment and Responsibility

 

If either one flakes for no legitimate reason, do you think most escorts or clients would want to have a make-up session (and no, I don't mean the lipstick and rouge thing)? I don't think I would.