WHY DO I ESCORT???

[Guest Zack Evans]

RE: Zack, please respond:

 

I NEVER sent such a message to regulation. It is a waste of negative energy to send such a message. He obviously is out to make me look bad and I am not sure why.

[Justice]

RE: Zack, please respond:

 

>Zack's response was way out

>of line. He owes you

>an apology and an expanation!

>Please forgive me.

 

I hate not having an edit key! I just made thinks worse!

What I meant to say was that Zack's unsolicited e-mail to Regulation was way out of line! He owes Regulation an apology and an expanation. I'm Sorry Regulation.

[Losgatan]

Regulation,

 

Are you absolutely certain that the offensive email came from Zack? I have the nagging suspicion that somebody is trying to retaliate for his recent visibility on this board.

 

If possible, please check the exact email address of the guy who sent you the message. Sometimes a single letter gets changed to make it seem the message is coming from someone else.

 

I've found two addresses for Zack:

 

polofrat00@yahoo.com (used in his reviews here),

 

and zack@zackevans.com (posted on his website)

 

Thanks!

[Guest AIM]

Regulation is an antagonist. Many posters post messages that are very thought provoking in an attempt to bring about a lively and healthy debate on an issue. But Regulation tends to take it a step further. I believe he purposely words many of his posts simply to push emotional buttons; and I don't mean the thought provoking kind (which would be admirable), but rather the ANTAGONIZING kind. And I believe he does it simply for the attention it generates. He then loves to take the moral high ground with, "what, me? what did I do?" innocent (I am victim) attitude followed by a witty denunciation of the responding poster.

 

When posters respond harshly to Regulation, he's not surprised. I truly believe it is what he wants; he relishes it. It is what he enjoys.

 

In my unhumble opinion, Regulation reeks with insecurity. This message center is simply a means for him to play his little posting games so that he can feel good about himself. So I guess that's a good thing.

 

Reg, so glad we could help!

[Guest regulation]

>Regulation is an antagonist. Many

>posters post messages that are

>very thought provoking in an

>attempt to bring about a

>lively and healthy debate on

>an issue. But Regulation

>tends to take it a

>step further. I believe he

>purposely words many of his

>posts simply to push emotional

>buttons; and I don't mean

>the thought provoking kind (which

>would be admirable), but rather

>the ANTAGONIZING kind. And

>I believe he does it

>simply for the attention it

>generates. He then loves

>to take the moral high

>ground with, "what, me?

>what did I do?" innocent

>(I am victim) attitude followed

>by a witty denunciation of

>the responding poster.

>

 

But since you are one of the people whose "buttons" I supposedly pushed and who responded to me with a hateful and insulting message in the "Tell Mom and Dad" thread, it is YOU who are claiming to be a victim, isn't it?

 

>When posters respond harshly to Regulation,

>he's not surprised. I

>truly believe it is what

>he wants; he relishes it.

> It is what he

>enjoys.

>

 

Here's a way to test your theory. In future, respond to my posts only by telling me how much you love and admire me. If your theory is correct, I will be destroyed, just like the wicked witch. If your theory is wrong, on the other hand, no great harm will be done. You will merely have made a fool of yourself. Again.

 

 

>In my unhumble opinion, Regulation reeks

>with insecurity. This message

>center is simply a means

>for him to play his

>little posting games so that

>he can feel good about

>himself. So I guess

>that's a good thing.

>

>Reg, so glad we could help!

>

 

AIM, I'm not stupid enough to try to psychoanalyze someone I've never even met, so there's nothing I can say about your deep-seated motivation for directing hateful messages to me again and again in recent days. I can only relate what I have actually observed about you. You appear to enjoy insulting and expressing hatred toward others.

[Guest regulation]

>Regulation,

>

>Are you absolutely certain that the

>offensive email came from Zack?

> I have the nagging

>suspicion that somebody is trying

>to retaliate for his recent

>visibility on this board.

>

>If possible, please check the exact

>email address of the guy

>who sent you the message.

> Sometimes a single letter

>gets changed to make it

>seem the message is coming

>from someone else.

>

 

Los, the message I quoted in this thread was sent to my inbox on this website. There is now another message in that box, also marked "From: Zack Evans" which is equally insulting and vulgar. I can quote the message for you if you like, or perhaps you would care to have only the title. It is "BEND OVER" (caps in original).

 

These are in fact the only messages in the box. If Hooboy would care to do so, he certainly has my permission to extract from them whatever information he can that will indicate the identity of the sender and post it in this thread.

[Guest jeffOH]

>AIM, I'm not stupid enough to

>try to psychoanalyze someone I've

>never even met, so there's

>nothing I can say about

>your deep-seated motivation for directing

>hateful messages to me again

>and again in recent days.

> I can only relate

>what I have actually observed

>about you. You appear

>to enjoy insulting and expressing

>hatred toward others.

 

Regulation, thanks for expressing something that needed to be

said. I was personally attacked by this AIM character in another

thread in which I had expressed my opinion about someone else's

post and instead of engaging in a civilized debate he chose to

call me insecure and petty. He's had an axe to grind with me ever

since I questioned his personal experience regarding the escort/

client relationships which account for most of the postings on

in these forums. A couple of escorts 15 years ago...I still don't

know what he's doing here and at this point I don't care. Maybe

if enough posters here ignore him, he'll lose interest and move on.

[Guest AIM]

>Regulation, thanks for expressing something that

>needed to be

>said. I was personally attacked by

>this AIM character in another

>

>thread in which I had expressed

>my opinion about someone else's

>

>post and instead of engaging in

>a civilized debate he chose

>to

>call me insecure and petty. He's

>had an axe to grind

>with me ever

>since I questioned his personal experience

>regarding the escort/

>client relationships which account for most

>of the postings on

>in these forums. A couple of

>escorts 15 years ago...I still

>don't

>know what he's doing here and

>at this point I don't

>care. Maybe

>if enough posters here ignore him,

>he'll lose interest and move

>on.

 

Oh you poor baby. Quit your whining. Jeff, everything that was said to you, you had coming.

 

First you were making some self-righteous comments in another thread at which point another poster asked you if you were the pope. Then you questioned whether I even had the right to be here posting. Of course, that was your opinion and you have the right to express it. I responded with my opinion because I also have the right to do so. And if you don't like it, get over it. I did.

 

You then started making some snyde comments when expressing your opinions about the situation with Jason Reardone; and again, this is your right. I decided to stick up for him and responded; and that is my right. AGAIN, if you don't like it, you'll just have to get over it. I did.

 

And I'm not going to comment to you further about whether or not I have the right to be here. Since when did Hooboy appoint you Hall Monitor? If you don't like my posts, then don't read them. You can't be offended by something you haven't read.

[Guest Zack Evans]

THANK GOD SOMEONE GOT IT RIGHT!!!!!!!

 

I truly believe that Regulation is first and foremost and VERY insecure person who has NOTHING better to do than to criticize and mock others. From the beginning, he put my threads down insatiably. He doesn't care whom he offends or mocks...and yes, when he does get a negative REACTION from his ACTION, he acts like he is indeed the victim in question.

 

I am sorry, but Regulation is NOT the victim. He is the total attacker. I don't hate him or hold any animosity towards him. If anything I feel sorry for him. Because he DOES take a lot of time and energy and puts it towards putting others down and judging others. What a complete WASTE of time and energy.

 

I can almost guarantee and he IS going to post a thread attacking me, yet once again, about this response.

 

But, remember Regulation, I am simply REACTING to your ACTIONS which have caused the flow of negative energy and judgement towards me and others as well.

 

I hope you take this thread as objectively as possible.

 

Zack Evans

[Guest regulation]

>THANK GOD SOMEONE GOT IT RIGHT!!!!!!!

>

>

>I truly believe that Regulation is

>first and foremost and VERY

>insecure person who has NOTHING

>better to do than to

>criticize and mock others.

>From the beginning, he put

>my threads down insatiably.

>He doesn't care whom he

>offends or mocks...and yes, when

>he does get a negative

>REACTION from his ACTION, he

>acts like he is indeed

>the victim in question.

 

Zack, let's try to maintain some connection with reality, shall we? You're a prostitute, not a psychiatrist. You're not qualified to diagnose emotional problems in others. Given what you do, most psychiatrists would probably say that you need some serious therapy yourself. That's not my field and I can't help you with that. I can only tell you that when you make didactic statements about an area of which you know nothing, you can only make yourself look silly.

 

>

>I am sorry, but Regulation is

>NOT the victim. He is

>the total attacker. I

>don't hate him or hold

>any animosity towards him.

>If anything I feel sorry

>for him. Because he

>DOES take a lot of

>time and energy and puts

>it towards putting others down

>and judging others. What a

>complete WASTE of time and

>energy.

>

 

But apparently it's not such a waste that you want to avoid doing the exact same thing that you criticize above. If you really went to Berkeley, I'm sure they must have taught you how to spell "hypocrisy." Did they teach you what it means?

 

 

>I can almost guarantee and he

>IS going to post a

>thread attacking me, yet once

>again, about this response.

>

 

That's a good bet. I am never a complacent target for abuse from anyone. There have probably been some occasions during your career as a hooker on which you were fawned over and indulged by some gay men despite the fact that they were older than you and have done much more with their lives than you have. Perhaps you've come to expect that all such men will treat you that way -- certainly some on this message board have -- and you feel outraged when it doesn't happen. If so, that's too bad. When anyone on this board brings to my attention the fact that you've behaved badly, as N.N. did, I'm going to feel free to comment on it, and there's not a lot you can do about that.

 

>But, remember Regulation, I am simply

>REACTING to your ACTIONS which

>have caused the flow of

>negative energy and judgement towards

>me and others as well.

>

>

>I hope you take this thread

>as objectively as possible.

>

>Zack Evans

 

The objective facts here are that you stood up a client with whom you had previously made an appointment. When he called you on it in this thread, you denied it. You claimed that you had no recollection of it, and you also said "I NEVER flake on anyone." Later, as I understand from N.N. and others, you admitted that you had in fact "flaked." That tells me all I need to know about your credibility.

 

Another objective fact is that someone who is registered with this website sent me some hate mail using your username. You've denied that it was you, but the last time you denied doing something, you ended up changing your story. We'll see what happens this time.

[Guest regulation]

>Regulation, thanks for expressing something that

>needed to be

>said. I was personally attacked by

>this AIM character in another

>

>thread in which I had expressed

>my opinion about someone else's

>

>post and instead of engaging in

>a civilized debate he chose

>to

>call me insecure and petty.

 

Jeff, you're quite welcome. As Theron recently pointed out far more eloquently than I could ever do, some visitors to this site simply don't have what it takes to engage in a discussion of any serious issue without attacking the others involved. AIM is clearly one of them. I'm sorry he annoyed you. I've enjoyed a lot of your posts and I hope you will keep showing up here.

[Guest AIM]

"Prostitute"? "Hooker"? Ohhhh, nooo reg. You don't ever try to push people's emotional buttons. I can certainly see how above that you are.

 

You're so pathetic! And so is your sorry sidekick (or I guess in your words: Prostitute/Hooker) Jeff in Ohio. I'm actually starting to find the both of you a little creepy.

 

Although I stated this before, I am now more convinced than ever that the sole purpose of your posts is to antagonize people. The only way to combat that is to not respond to any more of your posts -- no matter how mean, wrong, outrageous, or ignorant they are. To respond to them only dignifies them.

[Guest Zack Evans]

Regulation:

 

Name calling? Wooo...I'm soooooo hurt by that. Can you do better than that because I don't how name calling can help the already weak state that you're in now.

 

As for philosphy, I bet you know nothing about it. You poor thing. Did your mother not give you enough love as a child that you feel like you have to go on antagonizing a "hooker?"

 

Zack Evans

[Guest jeffOH]

There have been many instances when I haven't agreed with some-

thing another poster has said in these forums, but, unlike some,

I've never resorted to name-calling. I do have some very strong

opinions, but I know my words aren't those of God or etched in

stone somewhere. I don't take myself that seriously. When I feel

I've made a mistake in whatever the situation...I'll acknowledge

it and move on. When I'm expressing an opinion, I'm not doing so

in an effort to prove I'm right. My goal is to hear what others

(who have at least a rudimentary understanding of the topic at hand)have to say and to keep an open mind because I always look for the opportunity to learn something new.

 

Although I have been a full-time professional escort for the past

ten years and I've also hired numerous escorts over the past few

years, I don't profess to know all there is to know about

escort/client relationships. I'm continuing to learn even more

about clients and escorting from this site. That's why I'm here.

Not to call people names who express an opinion different from

my own, I'm a bit more secure than that.

 

There are some very strong personalities on these message boards.

They are a part of what I find interesting about this site. If

anyone ever takes the time to read my reviews they will get an

idea of what I'm like when I'm at work. I may work as prostitute,

but that's not all there is to me. I'm planning on "easing into

retirement" over the next two or three years. I often end up in

the role of counselor with clients and most of my friends, so

I'm finally getting a degree(after 5 years of college-four majors

and a ton of credit hours)in something I else I truly enjoy doing. As much as I've enjoyed escorting, I'm beginning to look

forward to the next phase of my life.

[Guest regulation]

>"Prostitute"? "Hooker"?

>Ohhhh, nooo reg. You

>don't ever try to push

>people's emotional buttons. I

>can certainly see how above

>that you are.

>

>You're so pathetic! And so

>is your sorry sidekick (or

>I guess in your words:

>Prostitute/Hooker) Jeff in Ohio.

>I'm actually starting to find

>the both of you a

>little creepy.

>

 

I've always found you to be hateful and obnoxious, and it seems I'm not the only one. I wasn't aware that you had insulted Jeff before he mentioned it in this thread, but given your habits it doesn't come as a surprise.

 

One of the reasons I've enjoyed Jeff's posts is that he and I have something in common. We both feel free to disregard the euphemisms favored by the P.C. Police -- he has referred to what he does as prostitution in a number of his posts. I don't care for euphemisms as a rule. They're a type of misdirection, an attempt to distract and conceal rather than communicate.

 

>Although I stated this before, I

>am now more convinced than

>ever that the sole purpose

>of your posts is to

>antagonize people.

 

 

That's pretty funny coming from a hatemonger like you.

 

 

The only

>way to combat that is

>to not respond to any

>more of your posts --

>no matter how mean, wrong,

>outrageous, or ignorant they are.

> To respond to them

>only dignifies them.

 

 

I hate to point out the obvious, but no one has ever asked you to respond to any of my posts. It's not as though anything you've ever said has contributed any information or insight, so please feel free to keep silent. On balance, I prefer you that way.

[Bilbo]

Dear, Reg, Sometimes I like to think of euphemisms as an attempt to bring into our culture some of the respect this trade has had in other cultures. However, I know that you are correct about another reason they are often used. On this question, I don't think the answer is either/or. I think it's both. Love, Bilbo

[Guest Zack Evans]

I need the therapy? What you're writing reflects that indeed YOU are the only person in need of deep psychological help.

 

Like I said Regulation, what waste of negative energy you put out. I am happy in knowing that whatever one puts out into the world ALWAYS comes back to them.

 

So, beware of Karma, Regulaton. She will have her hay-day with you if she hasn't already gotten to you!

 

Zack Evans

[Guest Zack Evans]

Yep. I am starting to realize that, more often than not, people are indeed on here to criticize and put others down.

 

But, in the end, it only makes them look bad. Regulation can say all he wants but he only adds to his insecurity and self-hatred. His writing reflects that he is an old, bitter person who is obviously out to put others down to make himself feel better.

 

My only hope in life is that I don't end up mean, hateful and bitter as Regulation is. He does love putting others down on here. He is consumed by it. He does indeed relish in it. It's probably what he lives for since he so carefully dissects everyone's posting and responds to each aspect of someone's thread as if he has NOTHING better to do.

 

Like I said before and I will say it again, my ONLY hope as I get older is that I don't reek with animosity or hatred as Regulation does. To do so would be a complete waste of time and energy. And life is just too short for that.

 

Zack Evans

[Guest jeffOH]

I've known some guys who thought escorting was going to be nothing but easy money. Have some pics done, throw an ad in a

local rag, put together a flashy website and then just kick back

and watch the money roll in. Well, there's much more to it than

that. I've seen more than one hooker crash and burn who couldn't

deal with it emotionally or because they found out that a pretty

face, a hot body, and/or a big cock wasn't enough to make them

a success in this business. A major factor is personality and if

some of these guys spent a 1/10 of the time they spend at the gym

developing a pleasant personality they'd do themselves a real

favor. I know it's not about me...it's about the client. I think

it's best to just leave my ego out of the whole equation.

[Guest regulation]

>But, in the end, it only

>makes them look bad.

>Regulation can say all he

>wants but he only adds

>to his insecurity and self-hatred.

> His writing reflects that

>he is an old, bitter

>person who is obviously out

>to put others down to

>make himself feel better.

>

 

I know you'd like to make this about me, Zack, but this thread is really all about you. You started it, and when you did you attracted the attention of someone you had mistreated in the past. Everything you've posted here since that point has been an attempt to deny what you did or to distract people from it by getting them to focus on those of us who were mean and nasty enough to disapprove of it. I'm afraid I can't let you do that. It wouldn't be fair.

 

 

>My only hope in life is

>that I don't end up

>mean, hateful and bitter as

>Regulation is. He does

>love putting others down on

>here. He is consumed

>by it. He does

>indeed relish in it. It's

>probably what he lives for

>since he so carefully dissects

>everyone's posting and responds to

>each aspect of someone's thread

>as if he has NOTHING

>better to do.

>

 

My hope is that when you get older you learn to take responsibility for your actions, whatever they may be, rather than try to weasel out the way you did in this thread. You'll be a better person if you do.

[Guest regulation]

>I need the therapy? What

>you're writing reflects that indeed

>YOU are the only person

>in need of deep psychological

>help.

>

 

Thanks for sharing, Zack, but if I need an opinion about my emotional state I'll ask a therapist, not a hooker.

 

>So, beware of Karma, Regulaton.

>She will have her hay-day

>with you if she hasn't

>already gotten to you!

>

>Zack Evans

 

If I thought you were up to it, I would ask you to explain how you reconcile your belief in Buddhist philosophy with the morality of "If it feels good, do it" that you expressed above.

[+ nycman]

Escort Mud Wrestling

 

>So, beware of Karma, Regulaton.

>She will have her hay-day

>with you....

 

Yeah Reg, that badass Karma bitch might embarrass you in public when you try to weasel out of a lie or some such thing.

 

Zach, I hate to tell you but you're the poster boy for bad Karma this time around. I'm sure you're a nice guy and a good escort. Several here have attested to that fact on your behalf already. Nonetheless, I don't think you're going about handling this public relations fiasco in the best way.

 

Let me help you out on this one. Repeat after me:

 

"I made a mistake and I'm sorry if I hurt anyone. I take full responsibility for my actions and will strive to do better in the future".

 

That's the moral high ground on this topic. Wallowing in the mud with Reg will only get you dirty and further excite Reg. He continues to wrestle with you for one reason....he knows he's got you beat. You can't win. Got it? And other than entraining the masses with each pathetic wiggle and frantic swing, you aren't serving any purpose by going on the offensive. You should just roll over and cry uncle. I guarantee that Reg will quickly lose interest and move on to more lively prey. It's simple really.

 

(Damn and I promised myself I wouldn't post in this thread...bad nycman, bad)

[Guest jeffOH]

>Dear, Reg, Sometimes I like to

>think of euphemisms as an

>attempt to bring into our

>culture some of the respect

>this trade has had in

>other cultures. However, I know

>that you are correct about

>another reason they are often

>used. On this question, I

>don't think the answer is

>either/or. I think it's both.

>Love, Bilbo

 

Euphemisms annoy the heck out of me. I prefer to speak as clearly

and simply as possible. This avoids a lot of the endless clarifi-

cations of what was meant by what was said in this post or the

other. Most newspapers are at a middle-school level so they are

accessible to a wider audience. I believe the message is what is

important when attempting to communicate your thoughts. NOT bash-

ing people over the head with your command of the English language in an effort to demonstrate how intelligent you think

you are.

 

Prostitute, hooker and escort are all the same to me. They mean

nothing more than the definition we assign to them. "Fuck me" is

much clearer than "anally penetrate me". Fuck, shit, piss, cock,

tits, ass may be vulgar to some, but that's elitist thinking at

work. The working classes used such language and that's why

these words are viewed negatively. They're just words.

 

http://Jeff4hire@aol.com

[Guest regulation]

>Euphemisms annoy the heck out of

>me. I prefer to speak

>as clearly

>and simply as possible.

 

Jeff, I would like you to do me a couple of small favors.

 

First, forget about retiring.

 

Second, leave your home and your community and move to a city much closer to me than Columbus!

[Bilbo]

"They're just words"?!!! What an ironic thing to say when perhaps the worst thing to happen on this thread was when Zack mistaken wrote in anger and used such harsh words on Regulation! I am like that Alaskan Indian tribe that has 50 words for snow in that I have so many words for escort/callboy/etc. because each one means something a little different to me. And I do use the word hooker at times. And I am proud of the fact that that word for this profession started when a representative of the US government decided to allow prostitutes to work in a certain section of town unmolested. General John J. Hooker, if I'm not mistaken. Remember him from your War Between the States history? (Oh, yeah, maybe you call it the Civil War. The difference is not insignificant. I still believe in states rights (not slavery) and still feel that the US is about 5 times larger than optimum.) So, call this profession what you will, I will note what you call it and I will be make certain assumptions, not necessarily about what you think of it all the time, but what you mean to say about it that time.

 

I still stand ready to say that we are both correct on this one, as we are looking at only one thing from different directions, as the blind men and the elephant.