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>And Matt, wouldn't mind being a

>member of your fan club

>either.

 

 

Well, I thank you tremendously for your expression of interest. Where are you located? I do travel a bit, and maybe we could arrange to meet? Drop me a line...

Matt

Tampa

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Sorry nothing profound or trite today, I'm easing my way back into the MC....

 

While chatting on Saturday I realized that many of you guys may regularly be interested in my updates, travels and the like. So I thought a mailing list may be something useful. Before the chat honestly I didn't think that many people took notice.

What are your thoughts? Helpful? Not important?

 

If you would like to be on my mailing list, please send an email to [email protected] with "mailing list" in the subject.

 

-jason

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I would love to be in your "fan" club, I mean on your mailing list.

 

Your #1 fan,

Matt

 

P.S. Sorry I missed your chat, I was in DC. we need to catch up with each other soon.

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RE: JASON REARDONE MAILING LIST! Last Call1

 

Dear Jason,

 

The virus alert you sent me on your emails was shown by several of my friends to be a hoax. Please check a little better next time before you panic us all. Because I probably would still panic if you told me to.

 

Love, Bilbo

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RE: JASON REARDONE MAILING LIST! Last Call1

 

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I agree, the panic got me bad, but I've gotten as many "hoax" stories as "virus" stories, I have the "remedy" to the hoaxed hoax if anyone needs it I will forward it to you, just email me directly at [email protected], sorry for the panic was trying to help out...-jason

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>Don't know whether or not you already know this, but your

>pics are being used on the Bareback Central site by

>an escort identified as MJ...

>

>http://barebackcentral.net/escorts/

 

He's using not only your pics, but also your stats and descriptive terms. Is there something you're not telling us, Jason? Naw, couldn't be. He works out of Tampa, and you're in LA...

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In a post not long ago I commented on how these pictures/stats were being used on this site without my knowledge. I've made several requests for their removal the second I learned of their existence and I was told they were removed, Thanks for the heads up I will contact them immediately if I do not get a response I already have an attorney retained in this matter. Thanks so much! -jason

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Here is a copy of that post, date about a month ago:\

 

 

"I have had recent experience with just such a site. I started receiving requests for bareback sex from clients around the globe. My mail box was over-run with just such emails. I responded to none of them and contacted the webmaster for the site in question. I demanded to be taken off of their list however they offered no explanation as to how or why I was on it the list in the begining. I do not routinely practice blatantly risky acts and certainly do not advertise to that degree.

I'm furious that I had become a part of such a listing and would likewise like to know if anyone finds me listed as such. There is a level of integrity that I personally enjoy upholding which does not include such socially unacceptable behavior. "

 

 

-jason

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Sorry, Jason, but there's something here that doesn't add up and needs more of an explanation.

 

Sometimes a guy will use someone else's pics, I suppose because he feels he is not attractive enough. That's been known to happen. But those pics go with his own stats and contact info and other stuff, and he'd pick someone from outside his own area to minimize the chance of getting found out.

 

--The listing on the bareback site has your pics, your stats, and wording from your website.

 

--The guy (MJ) works out of Tampa. Your travel schedule shows a week in Florida in March, April-May, and June. You posted in the Escort Travel forum here that you will be in Tampa June 10-11-12. Unless I'm confusing you with someone else, somewhere you said that you usually travel to Florida about a week each month.

 

--The bareback site itself is not going to put up a fake listing behind someone's back; why would they do it, and they would lose credibility with their visitors.

 

--So maybe the guy (MJ) is fraudulently using your stats and words with the pics and put all that up there. But he'd be pretty dumb to pick an escort who is in and around Tampa for a week every month. And he'd put up his own contact info, right? Why else put up the listing?

 

--Your email is [email protected], and alternate [email protected] (according to your website). His only contact info is an email address (I'm not going to repeat it here) which is entirely different from yours.

 

--You said "I started receiving requests for bareback sex from clients around the globe. My mail box was over-run with just such emails." But youremail address is not on that site. The only address there is hisemail, which is different from yours. So "his" email seems to be going to you, and "his" email address seems to be another one of yours.

 

Is there an explanation for why you are getting "his" email and for the Tampa connection?

 

You also said "I do not routinely practice blatantly risky acts and certainly do not advertise to that degree." Does that mean that you sometimes(non-routinely) practice blatantly risky acts and that you advertise them, but to a lesser degree?

 

BTW, which thread is that post from?

 

I'm keeping an open mind and I'd be interested to hear your answers to these questions.

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First of all let me start by saying kudos to your research team and please tell Marsha Clark I said hello. :)

 

Second of all let me just say that if an escort had chosen to completely disregard all boundaries of discretion, privacy and appropriateness in a response such as you have here, there 'd be a grave already dug. However in the spirit of sincerity and as part of my initiation I'll gladly answer all of your questions since you seem to be encountering many a sleepless night wondering how I'll respond. (By the way, let me first say, I Love You , Trekker! In a "let's rent a movie but not really watch it cuz' the ice cream upset you stomach and you went home early" -kinda-way!)

 

OK, here goes. I never denied that the photos on that site or the information contained were mine. What I implied (for discretionary reasons) was that they were used in that venue and format without my knowledge. (In fact, I was the one who brought this to the attention of the message center myself back in March on a post about Bare-backing escorts.)

 

When I first began escorting I garnered the help of a friend also named "Jason" who had escorted previously and who's computer skills far exceeded my own, particularly with the internet. Together we took snapshots, wrote a profile and began the process of "posting" advertisements to the Internet.

At the time I had only money on my mind (quite honestly because I was homeless sleeping in my office at work) and our thought was to get as many contacts as possible to remedy my situation. Since then I have learned that less is more and when quality vs. quantity that at least in my book, quality wins out.

 

After some time had passed, I was able to tap into who I am, what I prefer, what makes me uncomfortable, how far I'm willing to go for a client, what type of clients I will see and found the line that every escort has to draw in order to protect the inner soul. With these parameters in place I quickly made the decision to shy away from stereotypical practices and anything that did not parallel my deepest convictions on what I know is right for me even if it meant losing business.

 

When I made the comment about getting over-run with emails for bareback sex…. (My mailbox was over-run with just such emails, I responded to none of them and contacted the web-master for the site in question.) I was telling the truth! ABSOLUTELY, at first, I thought it was coincidental that I was all of a sudden deleting, declining or just plain not responding to emails that referenced unsafe or anonymous sex practices. I had heard the term bareback, but to me it was an option for those consenting adults who choose such an activity. I had barebacked with only one person in my (gay) life and it was while in a committed, tested and long-term relationship of nearly 5 years.

 

Later when reviewing the emails carefully I discovered the origin and realized what we had done, so I reacted promptly.

It did not register to me that the existence and primary goal of this site was to promote "bare-backing". So despite the blonde hair, I did figure it out and contacted the person I thought was responsible at the time, the web-master @<same site name>. COM. Well we fought for many months actually they ignored me for many months, I forgot about it for a while and then finally realized (after a few threatening emails from them) that the originator was not a DOT COM address but a DOT NET address. Well much of this activity back and forth has continued to this day.

Trying to prove that I am indeed this person (a non-legal fictitious name), requesting removal of my own pics, and oh by the way convince them that my escorting name changed to my nickname (also a non-legal, fictitious name) and I'm really in LA now, although I was in Tampa and I still go back, but have a different email address now too, …..No honestly, don't hang up, wait, …….well you see the drama that has unfolded and why I have spoken with an attorney to bring this entire thing to a close.

 

Do I recall putting that ad on that site for that purpose in that way? NO, and if I did so I would say it. My friend actually did all of the typing and posting to the net. Until recently I didn't even know what a "web-ring" or domain name was. If I had fully realized or even viewed for that matter, the nature of the site I would certainly have made a better choice. And now with this debate I've had some turn my abbreviation of Bubble Butt into Bare-Back.

 

Now I believe that you have one final question and that it seems to fall right in line with preceding lines of this post. I feel that it is incredibly personal, ignores the lines of discretion normally granted without question to every single person I come in contact with. I find frankly that a public audience is an inappropriate venue and that such a discussion should only be shared between my sex partner(s) and myself. (Now remember, I Love You! I'm not being mean, just responding with honesty while helping to propagate an After-School Special)

 

{"Does that mean that you sometimes (non-routinely) practice blatantly risky acts and that you advertise them, but to a lesser degree? "}

 

As I sit here reading your "dismount" I'm left wondering.. Exactly what is your question?

 

Are you asking me have I ever practiced unsafe sex?

 

Are you asking me to personally divulge my routine practices for the use of condoms while in my own bed, on my own time?

 

I'd like to think your question dealt more appropriately with the safety of my clients and the level of comfort I provide to them regarding HIV, STD's or AIDS.

 

Because I'm such a sport (and remember I Love The World, that means you too) I'll answer every question!

 

Have I ever been stupid and played without a condom? Yes! It has happened and it was not only stupid but it is embarrassing to have to write about here! Some routinely choose the no-condom approach. That's like anything else, to each his own. If I encounter them it's up to me to protect me, always assuming worst-case scenario. If I make such a judgment for my life then, like anything else that's my decision. I understand the risk of infection more than most. Many do not know this about me but since we have the filet knife out and sharpened…. I was premed for 2 years, worked at a major hospital at one time. I created, established, owned and operated a Home Health Care company who's primary objective was to collect, test and document specimens for HIV testing. I Have certifications in HIV lab testing procedure, Blood-born Pathogens, HIV education and Phlebotomy. I have worked with HIV and AIDS patients. I have administered and even taught them how to deliver injections into their own stomach. Seen them die slowly if not from the infection then from the anti-retro-viral medications that they are told to take. I have dispensed medications and given injections for almost every STD you can think of. I have had family members and their offspring effected by infections. I do know!

 

My philosophy on the subject is this; If it's a concern and you don't know if your partner is free from infection then ask him! When he tells you he is free of infection ask him how does he know! When you have discussed your concerns openly and are confident that your partner is free from infection, WEAR A CONDOM ANYWAY! No one can tell you that they are infection free, unless they have been tested by way of a DNA/PCR test (although still controversial it amplifies DNA in order to isolate the virus on a molecular level versus standard testing wh/ tests only for the body's ability to react to the virus and not the virus identifier itself) and even then no one can say for sure so I say, cover it!

 

And as far as your triple "sow-cow" at the end <applause>…

{" Does that mean that you sometimes advertise blatantly risky acts them but to a lesser degree?"}

I honestly think given the degree of privacy I have now forfeited that this is no longer in question.

 

I'm happy to have been able to provide you with this information as I know you feel that many people may be entitled to it in it's entirety. Given your obvious interest in my past affiliations and practices my only wish is that you had contacted me privately to discuss the facts and together we could have agreed upon what was appropriate to post publicly. By talking we could have saved a lot of time and effort not to mention preserved a level of discretion and privacy that is now absent (well absent for me at least).

 

Your final comment-{"I'm keeping an open mind and I'd be interested to hear your answers to these questions. "}

With that in mind I hope I answered your questions and hope you understand my point of view with regard to privacy. -jason

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RE: Response to Jason (13)

 

***I am dividing this post into two parts because of its length, for which I apologize. This is Part I***

 

Jason,

I'll ignore your sarcasm.

 

>Second of all let me just say that if an escort had chosen to completely

>disregard all boundaries of discretion, privacy and appropriateness in a

>response such as you have here, there 'd be a grave already dug.

 

I am completely at a loss to understand where you get the above claim from, or what disregard for "boundaries of discretion, privacy and appropriateness" there is in my post. I recited some public facts, including some public statements of yours, and asked about some apparent discrepancies in them. There is no disregard of discretion, privacy or appropriateness in what I posted. Perhaps what upset you so is the fact that discrepancies were noticed.

 

Discretion: I referred to public advertisements and to public statements of yours on your website and on this message board, and I asked about certain discrepancies in them. I did not reveal anything that was not already public. No disregard of discretion there. If you chose to make indiscreet disclosure of information in your answer (but I don't think you did), that was your choice, and I certainly could not foresee it or expect it. But, in fact, I don't see anything in your answer that would qualify as an indiscreet disclosure anyway. Everything in your answer is something that you might well have said in other places, and some of it is what you said in other places. And much of it is not in answer to my questions anyway, so I'm not sure why you chose to put it in. Regardless of that, many people, including you, have been posting all sorts of details about their personal lives and sexual histories on this site. And you personally have very recently been putting out lengthy posts under the headings "I became one of "those people who sells sex", an ESCORT!" and "THE ESCORT EXPERIENCE: Part II to Becoming an Escort" in which you make similar statements. I could easily see all or most of what you chose to say in your answer to my questions included in posts under those headings. After all, most of it is part of the history of your becoming an escort, which is what both of your titles announce.

 

Privacy: You advertise openly as an escort. A public advertisement with your pictures and information also appears on the bareback site, and I am not the one who found it there or pointed it out here. Not that that would havebeen a violation of privacy, anyway, since it is public on the internet, but I did not go out looking for it or anything else like it. Someone posted a link which I followed, and then I reacted to your statements, which do not seem to fit well with the observable facts. You made a statement implying that you had no idea how it had gotten there, saying that you were furious about it, and suggesting that you do not engage in or approve of that behavior ("I demanded to be taken off of their list however they offered no explanation as to how or why I was on it the list in the begining. .... I'm furious that I had become a part of such a listing and would likewise like to know if anyone finds me listed as such. There is a level of integrity that I personally enjoy upholding which does not include such socially unacceptable behavior.") Another post also indignantly says that you had no knowledge of this and that you had already retained an attorney ("In a post not long ago I commented on how these pictures/stats were being used on this site without my knowledge. ... I already have an attorney retained in this matter.") This does not sound like a private matter. A discrepancy between your public statements and the open facts also does not sound like a private matter.

 

Appropriateness: This is a website discussing and evaluating escorts, their attitudes, their philosophy, their general behavior, their sexual behavior, and similar topics. The personality, behavior, attitudes, reliability, sexual practices, and the like of escorts are important criteria in evaluating them and deciding to hire them. And among those criteria sexual practices potentially occupy paramount importance because of the possible consequences. If the escort just isn't a nice guy, or didn't cuddle afterwards, or can't talk about Hindu philosophy the client might be bummed out. If the escort doesn't perform sexually the way the client wants, he may feel that he was ripped off. But if the escort carries a disease the consequences are more significant than missing an interesting conversation or being out a couple of hundred dollars. This entire website, the Message Center as well as the reviews, is filled with comments like "He just lay there and expected me to service him," "He's not just good-looking, he's great to talk to," "Don't waste your money on him," "He was the greatest sex I ever had," "He didn't show and he didn't call," "I had a good time, but what I asked for was a *top*," "He wouldn't bottom for me, but maybe next time he will." and the like. That's the purpose of the site. Everything pertaining to these and related matters is appropriate here. (And, as we have seen, a lot of things that are not related to escorts appear and get discussed here, too.) At the moment we have a couple of threads discussing AIDS and HIV status, felching, and some other things, and barebacking figures prominently in all of them, either overtly or behind the scenes. In addition, as you yourself mentioned, not too long ago there was an entire thread devoted to barebacking. Universally in all those threads the practice is rejected, recommended against, blamed, and condemned as very risky. An escort who engages in the practice is putting not just himself, but also his future clients at risk. If he wants to take the risk for himself, that is his right: I don't recommend it, but I can't stop him. However, he has no right to endanger others, especially without their knowledge that they are at risk. So I think that clients have a right to know about that, and that it is very appropriate for this site. I might add, also, that on that barebacking thread that you cited there were comments about escorts reviewed on this site who were listed on the barebacking site as well. (That may even have been the occasion for the start of that thread; I don't remember, and I haven't been able to pull it up out of the depths).

 

>However

>in the spirit of sincerity and as part of my initiation I'll gladly answer all of

>your questions since you seem to be encountering many a sleepless night

>wondering how I'll respond. (By the way, let me first say, I Love You ,

>Trekker! In a "let's rent a movie but not really watch it cuz' the ice cream

>upset you stomach and you went home early" -kinda-way!)

 

Again ignoring your sarcasm, my questions could have been answered in a much simpler and shorter way than you chose to. Anything that you said was by your choice. See below.

 

>OK, here goes. I never denied that the photos on that site or the

>information contained were mine. What I implied (for discretionary

>reasons) was that they were used in that venue and format without my

>knowledge.

 

How is that a matter of discretion? It sounds to me more like a matter of deception. You implied it in one place, and stated it outright in another. And you have since admitted that the claim was false.

 

The next 5 paragraphs of your post explain the situation and relate to my first question. To save space, I will not reproduce them here. (I don't think it was necessary to provide all that much detail, but there's nothing wrong with doing so.) But I will make a few comments on them.

 

With reference to the first 3 of the 5 paragraphs:

How is any of this a matter of privacy or discretion or appropriateness? On the contrary, I think it's very humanizing and complimentary, and should have been in your "Becoming an Escort" posts. It's sort of "coming of age as an escort," getting a better perspective on it and on your life. That's what autobiographies are made of, and there's nothing to hide or to be ashamed of here, at least not for someone who is openly an escort, and not on this message board.

 

The above is an excellent explanation/answer to my first question. All you had to say is (assuming that this is right) that yes, it really was your ad (which you said somewhere later in your reply anyway), that in the burst of posting your information far and wide back then it got onto that site too, that it was in the early period that you described, and that ever since then you have been trying to get it taken off. That's all that was necessary, and that's a lot better than the coverup-with-holes-in-it that you tried to give us at first. (Coverups always have holes in them.) And there is nothing in there or in my question that should have caused you to react in the way that you apparently did.

 

Stop and think for a minute what the situation looks like to people who don't know the history you recited above. There is a guy currentlyadvertising barebacking in Tampa. The pics are Jason's pics. The stats are Jason's stats. Jason says that he currentlyvisits the Tampa area for a week every month. Hmmm.... Jason says he doesn't know anything about it or how his pics got there. OK, maybe it's all a coincidence. Then Jason says that he gets the guy's email, although that guy's email address is not the one Jason advertises. What are people supposed to think? That doesn't any more sound like some other guy who is using your pics. It looks like you are doing that on the sly with a different name and different email address. I didn't want to believe that, and I didn't accuse you of anything. I said "There's something here that doesn't add up and needs more of an explanation," I stated what that was, and then I said "I'm keeping an open mind and I'd be interested to hear your answers to these questions." That was a serious, literal statement that didn't mean anything more than what it said. But in the absence ot some reasonable alternative explanation, it looks like you are currently soliciting bareback appointments under a different name. That's something that your Jason clients would have a right to know about, and the fact of doing it under a different name and in a far-removed place is basically evidence that the escort knows that his other clients wouldn't like it and is deliberately trying to hide it from them.

 

The end of the third paragraph has the remark

 

>I had barebacked with only

>one person in my (gay) life and it was while in a committed, tested and

>long-term relationship of nearly 5 years.

 

I see nothing wrong with your having included this, but there was no need to do so if you considered it private, or indiscreet to reveal it (I don't know if you do or not). Monogamous LTRs are exactly where most people agree that it is OK.

 

In the fourth paragraph you describe your efforts to get taken off that site. Admirable, and we can all sympathize with the runaround that you got. But I have to take issue with one statement there:

 

>It did not register to me that the existence and primary goal of this site

>was to promote "bare-backing".

 

Now, really, this is getting over to the other side again. The site is called barebackcentral.net. It's not something like "hotguys4you.net". What else would they be doing?

 

((Aside:

>web-master @<same site name>. COM. .... the

>originator was not a DOT COM address but a DOT NET address.

 

You mean there is a barebackcentral.com and a barebackcentral.net??? Good grief!))

 

But the rest of paragraphs 4 and 5 is a fine part of the answer too. You didn't have to go into all that detail, but there's nothing wrong with doing so. And I don't see anything private, indiscreet or inappropriate there, either.

 

So all of that answers the question. It could also have been answered in a much simpler way, but there's nothing wrong with this way. But what is private, indiscreet or inappropriate about it, except maybe (if you feel that way) the remark about your LTR, which you didn't have to include? (The question was about whether that is you advertising on the bareback site as "MJ" and if that's why you take frequent trips to Tampa.)

 

((Another aside: At the end of paragraph 5 you said

>And now with this debate I've had some turn my abbreviation

>of Bubble Butt into Bare-Back.

 

This "debate" was only about 6 hours old when you posted that remark, and nobody else had posted anything in between my post (7:04AM) and yours (1.22PM). Where is that? I don't see it anywhere on this thread. What opportunity has anyone had to do that so soon? (That's just a rhetorical question; I'm not asking for an answer.) Most people hadn't even seen my post by the time you made your reply.))

 

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . end of Part I . . . . . . . . . . . .

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RE: Response to Jason (13), Part II

 

***I am dividing this post into two parts because of its length, for which I apologize. This is Part II***

 

Moving to the second question, you said

>Now I believe that you have one final question and that it seems to fall

>right in line with preceding lines of this post. I feel that it is incredibly

>personal, ignores the lines of discretion normally granted without question

>to every single person I come in contact with. I find frankly that a public

>audience is an inappropriate venue and that such a discussion should only

>be shared between my sex partner(s) and myself. (Now remember, I Love

>You! I'm not being mean, just responding with honesty while helping to

>propagate an After-School Special)

>

>{"Does that mean that you sometimes (non-routinely) practice blatantly

>risky acts and that you advertise them, but to a lesser degree? "}

 

First, it seems that you misinterpreted the question, perhaps by considering it out of context. (See below.)

 

Second, if, based on your misconception of the question or on the public nature of the venue, you felt that the question was too private or indiscreet or that your answer would be, you could have just said so and declined to answer. But you didn't. Whatever you said was by your choice.

 

Third, as I have said above under "Appropriateness," escorts are in a very different position from other people with regard to things like this. They are selling sex (yeah, I know, they aren't doing that - they're just selling their time). If you were buying any other product you would want to know if it had any hidden defects or problems. If you were buying any other service you would want to know if the provider was capable of delivering it in a safe and responsible manner. The same applies to escort services. Escorts give up certain aspects of their privacy by becoming escorts. You shouldn't ask a colleague at work if he rims, but you can ask an escort. You don't need to know if your insurance agent engages in unsafe sex, but you do need to know if your escort does. People who might want to hire the escort have a right to know that before they do so. Aside from the substantial fees involved, escort appointments are arranged in advance, often days or even weeks in advance, and clients, too, reserve their time for them and forego other possibilities that they might have. It's not like a chance spontaneous pickup in a bar or someplace else.

 

>As I sit here reading your "dismount" I'm left wondering.. Exactly what is

>your question?

>Are you asking me have I ever practiced unsafe sex?

 

No. (And I find your flippant remark above and elsewhere in your reply to be inappropriate.) The question is very clear. See below.

 

>Are you asking me to personally divulge my routine practices for the use of

>condoms while in my own bed, on my own time?

 

No.

 

>I'd like to think your question dealt more appropriately with the safety of

>my clients and the level of comfort I provide to them regarding HIV, STD's

>or AIDS.

 

Yes, of course it did, as you understand very well, in spite of your indignant response above. But it was not only that. See below.

 

>Because I'm such a sport (and remember I Love The World, that means

>you too) I'll answer every question!

 

(Again, I find this attitude out of place.) The next paragraph ("Have I ever been stupid..."), which I won't reproduce, is again one of those which was unnecessary here, and the last 2/3 of it is not really relevant to the question, either. But, again, I don't find anything wrong with your having included it, and I think it provides a humanizing sidelight on you (remember that to most people here you are just a few pictures and some words on a screen). Likewise, I think that it could easily have been part of one of your "Becoming an Escort" posts, or part of a post on one of the other threads here. Many people have been posting similar things, especially recently. Look at some of the recent "reminiscences" threads about the AIDS epidemic and other times past, and also at the "Have you ever..." threads that keep popping up (some apparently fueled by people who seem to be gathering material for books or articles). Everythingin your reply could easily be part of some one or more of those. But, like before, if you considered that too private, you didn't have to post it, especially because it wasn't necessary.

 

I think your next paragraph ("My philosophy...") is fine, too, and I can't imagine that you find anything in there to be private, indiscreet or inappropriate. Not that I want to be repetitive about this, but that, too, could easily have been in various of your other posts as well as here.

 

 

>And as far as your triple "sow-cow" at the end <applause>…

>{" Does that mean that you sometimes advertise blatantly risky acts them

>but to a lesser degree?"}

 

((Attitude...?)) This is not what I said. You have mangled the quote. What I said, as anyone can see in my post just above yours, was (underlining added to show the difference) "Does that mean that you sometimes(non-routinely) practice blatantly risky acts and that you advertise them, but to a lesser degree?" Please note that almost all of that is a paraphrase of yourearlier statement, which I also included just above my question. And the question was not any kind of grand finale calling for applause.

 

You had said earlier that you practice safe sex. In the post from the barebacking thread you said that you were "furious" that you had become part of the barebackcentral site and that "There is a level of integrity that I personally enjoy upholding which does not include such socially unacceptable behavior" (referring to barebacking). That's a pretty strong statement, and one which I would applaud. But you also backed away from that by saying, "I do not routinely practice blatantly risky acts and certainly do not advertise to that degree." You added two qualifiers, "routinely" and "to that degree." That raises questions. Why is he hedging? Does he really mean to? What does he mean by that? And right there, with those qualifiers, you had essentially already suggested or even said of your own accord that you do, before my post and before your reply, and without regard to your moaning that I "made" you lose your privacy. You raised the issue and the question with your earlier comment. If not for that comment, I would have had nothing to ask about and the question would not even have occurred to me.

 

So you see, you misread the question. It was not about whether or not you have had unsafe sex, it was about the meaning of your statement. Please note that the question does not say "Do you have X" or "Have you had X". It says "Does that mean X". That's a question about what you said,not about what you do,and it gives you the opportunity to clarify your statement, to correct what may be an unintended interpretation, to explain why you said that, or whatever else may be appropriate. Not the kind of answer you gave, but things like (whatever may be correct) "Oh, no, I didn't mean it that way." "Yes, it does." &l;I don't mean to suggest that this is the answer in this case, only that it is a possible answer to the question.&r; "I decided n years ago to have only safe sex." "Well, in the early days when I first became an escort I wasn't always as careful as I should have been, but then I got smart real fast. That was n years ago and since then I have been very careful about it." and maybe add a sentence or two more as appropriate.

 

Someone cannot be "a little bit pregnant." In the same way, either someone practices safe sex or he doesn't. If he did some stupid things a year ago, OK, after a while it is possible to know if there are any consequences and to decide to have safe sex. But safe sex means from that day forward. There are no holidays from safe sex. If he falls off the wagon he has to start all over again. If my escort says he has safe sex, that means all the time. If he took a holiday from it yesterday, that might be the day he got infected, although he wouldn't even know it yet, and then today might be the day he gives it to me. With the medical background you cited, you must know that.

 

>I honestly think given the degree of privacy I have now forfeited that this is

>no longer in question.

 

I don't see that you have forfeited any privacy, and certainly not because I made you or asked you to, although I recognize that you may feel that way. But then you didn't have to answer that way. All you did was admit that at some time in the past you had sex without a condom. I'll bet most if not all people on this board have done the same thing. And you called it a stupid thing to do, which says something about your current attitude towards it.

 

>I'm happy to have been able to provide you with this information as I know

>you feel that many people may be entitled to it in it's entirety.

 

You're not, but that's OK.

 

>Given your

>obvious interest in my past affiliations and practices my only wish is that

>you had contacted me privately to discuss the facts and together we could

>have agreed upon what was appropriate to post publicly. By talking we

>could have saved a lot of time and effort not to mention preserved a level

>of discretion and privacy that is now absent (well absent for me at least).

 

I have no interest at all in your past affiliations and practices, and I was not asking about that. I was asking about your currentactivities and what you meant by your statement, and I think that is very relevant to your current work as an escort.

 

There is no shame in having been an over-enthusiastic young escort and then becoming older and wiser, and so I don't see that as a matter that needs to be kept confidential or private. Besides, I think the hiring public has a right to know the answers to the two questions that I asked. And, for technical reasons related to the board, I and many others can no longer make use of the private mail option.

 

>Your final comment-{"I'm keeping an open mind and I'd be interested to

>hear your answers to these questions. "}

>With that in mind I hope I answered your questions and hope you

>understand my point of view with regard to privacy. -jason

 

You may be surprised to hear that I believe what you said. It wasn't all necessary and it wasn't all relevant to the questions, but that's OK. However, I still do not see much of anything in what you said that is such a wrenching revelation or breach of privacy. Aside from that, you didn't have to give up any privacy or say anything that you didn't want to. You could have declined to answer or found ways to answer that did not give up any information that you wanted to keep private. For all I know, you may have done that with some other information anyway. And saying that you will forego your privacy and answer the question because you Love the World and me too, and then bitching about having done it is not the way to go, either.

 

I was not trying to beat up on you, although it seems that you took it that way. I did not accuse you of anything (in spite of the way the situation looked). That's why I said that something "doesn't add up" and "needs more of an explanation." And I invited you to give an explanation, and said I was reserving judgement. I meant all of that, although you seem to have decided that it was something else.

 

But the bottom line is that this all grew out of the fact that you were trying to cover up the truth and were making claims that you now admit were false. So don't blame anyone who smelled something fishy after you left the mackerel out in the sun for a few hours.

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RE: Response to Trekker

 

"WHAT A TANGLED WEB YOU WEAVE,

WHEN YOU ONLY PRACTICE TO DECEIVE."

Displacing the blame to a "friend" is a seemingly convenient answer to appear innocent, but to make yourself seem like a victim (referring to the "homeless" bit in your response) is more than a contradiction of the truth. Sarcasm can only distract from the eventual truth that lies at the bottom of this whole story.

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RE: Response to Jason (13), Part II

 

"If my escort says he has safe sex, that means all the time. If he took a holiday from it yesterday, that might be the day he got infected, although he wouldn't even know it yet, and then today might be the day he gives it to me."

 

And how does he give it to you if you're practicing safe sex? I think this says more about you than about "your" escort.

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RE: FINAL Response to TREKKER

 

{{((Another aside: At the end of paragraph 5 you said

>And now with this debate I've had some turn my abbreviation

>of Bubble Butt into Bare-Back.

 

{{This "debate" was only about 6 hours old when you posted that remark, and nobody else had posted anything in between my post (7:04AM) and yours (1.22PM). Where is that? I don't see it anywhere on this thread. What opportunity has anyone had to do that so soon? (That's just a rhetorical question; I'm not asking for an answer.) Most people hadn't even seen my post by the time you made your reply.))}}}

 

IT'S SOMETHING YOU MAY NOT HAVE HEARD OF, "PRIVATE EMAIL"

AS FAR AS YOUR OTHER SUGGESTIONS THAT I TAKE BAREBACKE APPTS IN TAMPA, I DO NOT TAKE BAREBACK APPTS! PERIOD! UNDER ANY CURCUMSTANCES! EVER! NOT IN TAMPA OR ANYWHERE!

Now do us all a favor , get a hobby and drop it!

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RE: Final Responseto Trekker II

 

If you think I was hiding something then you need to read my post AGAIN. I will not comment in this forum on this post any further, enough of my time has been wasted with someone who has not even considered having me as a guest or meeting me to make a judgment about me in person. My client "friends" NEVER have a question as to me integrity or believibility <sp> once they've spent even 10 minutes with me. You're comments and questions were out of line and should have been posted to me personally end of story. I'm sure the entire Message Center thanks you for your concern for THEIR safety. As for being sarcastic??? I was trying to keep it light hearted, being concerned FOR YOUR FEELINGS and fearing that you may take me too visciously as words sometimes seem when in this venue. It was meant as comedy not sarcasm.

 

If anyone has any concern with regard to this thread, the proof is in the pudding! Ask any of my regulars, read my reviews, contact any of my many very dear and very close "client/friends" and they will tell you who the REAL JASON is.

 

Everyone will be glad to know, (not that trekker asked of course) but I spoke with the owner of the bareback site. I'm sure he's happy to get all this Publicity.....anyway, the reason why he hasn't taken the listing off as I requested, many weeks ago, before this thread, is because he is overseas (i won't divulge where, i don't think it's necessary). but he assures me that when he returns to the US he will gladly remove it. I thanked him tremendously for taking time out of his vacation to contact me and he hopes to have it down my the 19th.

 

Kinder, Gentler.......OK, well I did try....I think this may be why all of those posters that have positive things to say and try to be (didn't say always) positive and informative have quite posting and have moved on. I feel like Kathy Lee Gifford, on a good day, gee thanks

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