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>The *average* for a good computer

>consultant (keyword: good) is $120

>to $150/hour, depending on the

>market. The *damn* good ones

>charge much more than that.

>

 

Not in my experience. I sit on the board of a software company. With the market as it is today, we can get all the people we want for a lot less. There are a lot of good consultants out there now. Most of them used to work full time for companies that no longer exist.

 

 

>My own rates are $150/hr for

>work I want and $175

>or higher for work I

>don't want. It's amazing how

>clients will chase you down

>even after you say no

>a few times! I imagine

>escorts get the same thing.

>

 

Enjoy it while you can.

 

>If that 19yo is a whizz-kid

>at website programming (which is,

>after all, a young man's

>world) he could certainly make

>the same rates I charge.

>In fact, if anyone wants

>it and has the skills,

>I'll book 'em and only

>take a 10% agent fee.

>

 

You sound as though you're transmitting from 1999. "Whiz kids" are no longer in fashion and web site design companies are laying people off in droves. I know several people who used to work for Marchfirst and Scient. Now they're "consultants" too.

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In this situation, it's not so much being a "whiz kid" but being knowledgeable and talented. I still have friends who can charge $150-$200 (one even without a B.A.) -- not because they simply know how to code or how to design but because they do it better than anyone out there.

 

As far as those poor Harvard law kids, if the going rate you quote above is true (which I'm sure it is), I'm feeling awfully special -- because my going technical writing and consulting rate for the freelancing I've been doing is more than they make -- and that's certainly by the hour because I'm sure as hell not going back to salaries any time soon. I think people who knew their stuff have not only survived but thrived in the "dot com downturn" because companies have cut the dead weight and are actually valuing talent again.

 

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Kamikaze/Chad/Scott,

 

Welcome to these boards. You are a terrific addition here. It is wonderful to read such well-written and thoughtful postings. You present your profession's view beautifully.

 

I am sorry to see that you have not been reviewed here. I bet time spent with you would be delightful.

 

I have only one quibble with your statements: The point of this thread is not unsatisfactory service, it is the woody issue. I fully concur that withholding payment because an overnight was not great is wrong.

 

But, I do think that someone who expects a top but gets a softee is entitled to a perk (freebie, discount, extended stay, etc.)

 

Dick

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>Not in my experience. I

>sit on the board of

>a software company. With

>the market as it is

>today, we can get all

>the people we want for

>a lot less. There

>are a lot of good

>consultants out there now.

>Most of them used to

>work full time for companies

>that no longer exist.

 

You get what you pay for. <shrug>

 

There are strong parallels between hiring consultants and escorts. Some consultants have trouble getting it up as well, and those are usually the ones who are available at lower rates.

 

(It keeps the thread on topic, and it's true too. <g>)

 

>You sound as though you're transmitting

>from 1999. "Whiz kids"

>are no longer in fashion

>and web site design companies

>are laying people off in

>droves. I know several

>people who used to work

>for Marchfirst and Scient.

>Now they're "consultants" too.

 

It's not a matter of fashion. That's not what I was getting at. It's a matter of ability. You originally asserted that a 19yo could not make those rates. I assert that they can.

 

I'm afraid we'll just have to agree to disagree.

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>As far as those poor Harvard

>law kids, if the going

>rate you quote above is

>true (which I'm sure it

>is), I'm feeling awfully special

>-- because my going technical

>writing and consulting rate for

>the freelancing I've been doing

>is more than they make

>-- and that's certainly by

>the hour because I'm sure

>as hell not going back

>to salaries any time soon.

 

 

The rate I quote is true if you divide their salaries by a very conservative estimate of hours worked. Such people start at a little over $100,000 per year (not including benefits) and get annual "bumps" of $10,000 to $20,000.

 

 

> I think people who

>knew their stuff have not

>only survived but thrived in

>the "dot com downturn" because

>companies have cut the dead

>weight and are actually valuing

>talent again.

>

 

Nope. There are lots and lots of very talented people who are either looking for work or who have taken work at lower pay.

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>You get what you pay for. <shrug>

 

Nope. The market for skilled labor is just as cyclical as any other market.

 

 

>There are strong parallels between hiring

>consultants and escorts. Some consultants

>have trouble getting it up

>as well, and those are

>usually the ones who are

>available at lower rates.

 

I don't deal with either sort of worker who has that problem, so I will have to take your word for it.

 

>It's not a matter of fashion.

>That's not what I was

>getting at. It's a matter

>of ability. You originally asserted

>that a 19yo could not

>make those rates. I assert

>that they can.

>

 

If you don't think there are fads in management just as there are in clothing you're very much mistaken. During the dot-com boom many managers were convinced that the younger a "techie" was the more likely he was to understand the internet and all that goes with it. That fad has run its course and now management only wants to see gray hairs.

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