ESCORTS WHO "CAN'T GET IT UP"

[Guest Holden]

In the past 2 months, I've hired 4 well known/very well reviewed escorts from 2 reputable agencies. Three of the four were unble to achieve an erection. Naturally, I blame myself for this...like the housewife whose husband becomes impotent. They were very apologetic for this and made sure to let me know that it wasn't my fault. Of course, I don't believe them. While I am in my mid 50s and overweight by abt 15 lbs, I am not obese nor am i Quasimodo. There excuses ranged from "Gee, I've very tired,I've had a very bad day, This has never happened to me before, etc. etc". Of course, I feel that there were just escuses. Every other aspect of our encounter was pleasant and they made sure that I was "taken care of". However, I feel that as pleasant, polite, courteous, etc as they were, a major aspect of an escort is the ability to get it up. Naturally, they were not able to perform as a top. I did not make it a big issue with them but I really was very disppointed. I did not inform the agency of this but felt that I had not received my money's worth.

Should I have received or asked for a discount?(I paid the full fee but did not tip) Should I have notified the agency? What do you escorts and clients think of situations like this. If it had happened only once, I wouldn't think too much of this but 3 out of 4 times makes me think that indeed, it is my fault and that somehow, I am turning these guys off. Of course, if that is the case, shouldn't they have informed me of this and certainly wouldn't this have prevented them from going down on me? I am confused/hurt and somewhat very leary of hiring another escort.

Should I make a point of asking whether the escort has problems with erections? Help

[Guest MrB]

You're not alone in this, I'm sure it happens all the time--it's happened to me a couple of times and I was disappointed too. In the days before Viagra, in all fairness, there was nothing you could say or do. If they tried their best and it just did not work, you were out of luck.

 

With Vitamin V, however, the rules have changed IMHO. If I got together with an escort today and he had wood problems, I would feel cheated out of my money. I might even end the session early and negotiate a reduced rate, or try and reschedule when he was not feeling tired.

 

Of course, all of this applies only if the escort's erection is important to the client's experience.

I have learned to make it clear to a guy that one of the things I enjoy most in M2M sex is (hey, fill in your own blanks) before I confirm an appointment.

 

Why don't you give that a try? Don’t talk about ‘your problem’ – tell them what you expect. It’s sure to improve your success rate.

 

 

Have fun!

 

MrB

[Guest 7Zach]

It happens, especially if ur not the first one on the list for that day/night. Of course u feel cheated. In fairness, some bottoms don't/can't with clients, or something else is going on. Or maybe there is no attraction there, or they're not young enough to have the hormones to make up for the lack of attraction. Or again, maybe it's just an off day, or they simply just don't feel like it. Who knows?

 

If dealing with an agency that I have used before, and not the one everyone here loves in NY, u can talk to them and see what they say. They sometimes lower the fee, or whatever. But unless there's something else wrong, meaning description misleading, or not clean, etc., then once u take the test drive, I always felt it was bought and paid for. My take is that this is overall not the sort of business where u get what u pay for each and every time; instead, you pay for the particular service over a period of time, divide by the number of good times you had, and that is the true cost of each of the "good times".

 

My view concerning any of this is more accepting than it would be if I were buying something else. The difference is that most of the ones I hire are younger, less experience in life, and they have a really hard job. I know I couldn't have done it, i.e., going into a room cold, appearing warm and charming, much less the physical act itself. You have to harden up emotionally to do this, yet not so much as to come off cold and remote. It's gotta be tough.

[Matt_Vancouver]

I'm constantly suprised by the # of escorts who can't maintain an erection. I've done duo's with several who have had this problem.

Viagra, a possible solution to this problem, does however pose some other issues.

If someone takes viagra when there is no medical reason, there is the potential for long term damage which could cause erectile disfunction in the future. At least that is my understanding.

I'm sure the occasional use is fine, but I wouldn't recommend it on a daily basis.

any doctors want to add to this?

Matt(puts on his serious hat)

http://go.to/mattsplace

matt_escort@yahoo.com

[Guest MrB]

Hi Matt,

 

You're right as always... but an escort who needs Viagra on a daily basis, would that be an escort who finds himself unable to get it up on a daily basis? Viagra is normally for the impotent. It can come in handy when you're 'tired' and can't afford to be... that should be occasional enough. If an escort needed Vigra for each and every appointment/erection, I would say he made an unwise career choice :-)

 

Have fun!

 

 

MrB

[Traveller]

I am in complete agreement with MrB as usual (great minds, and all). Prior to Viagra, it was somewhat the luck of the draw (especially for those 5 am calls). Now, absolutely NO excuse. If you ask for a top and they can't deliver, under no excuse (other than something you can control like bad breath or a dirty blowhole) should you pay.

 

Later.

[Boston Guy]

Let me perhaps take a different tack. And, Holden, let me be very clear that I mean absolutely no disrespect to you at all -- quite the contrary, for you seem to be a man of unusual patience and generosity.

 

However, three out of four is a pretty high incidence of failure and I can't help wondering if perhaps it isn't you but possibly something you might be doing inadvertently that is leading to this problem.

 

To take this to extremes, most of us could probably come up with a few things to say that would take the wind out of the sails, so to speak, of most tops. We all know that it can be hard to get hard in certain situations -- worrying about the possibility of not getting hard is good way to make it hard to get hard. (Got that? :-))

 

So I'm wondering if you might be saying something that is cooling down the tops or possibly being too anxious or something along that line?

 

I'm not suggesting this -- simply posing it as a possibility. Perhaps the escorts might help here by telling us some of the things that a client could do or has done that makes it harder for them to do the job.....

 

And, by the way, I'm hoping number five will be a blast for you!

[Guest CTMUSH]

Although not recently I have been with 2 highly reviewed escorts who could not get an erection. In both cases I made appointments ahead of time, so they knew when we were getting together. Neither was with an agency, and they admitted I was the first client of the day. Ironically both had the same excuse. Prior to our meeting they had gone to the gym and had a "quickie". I took this as a lack of consideration for me, the PAYING client. I was concerned that I did something wrong, was repulsive, had bad breath or something worse. But I confronted both as to why they couldn't get an erection and they told me. I have not hired either of them again, and now I make it clear I expect the escort to get an erection.

[CT Dick]

I don't like the idea of suggesting that Holden may have done something to cause the flats.

 

He did mention agencies. Since these boys are paid less than independents, they need to see more clients for the same overall income. That could be one problem - overuse.

 

Also, the agency needs to please their callers and may well pressure escorts into doing too many calls in a day. Again, overuse.

 

A good escort, especially one billed as a top, should be able to get it up. I don't think it is right to assume/suggest/ask if it could be the client's problem.

[Guest jizzdepapi]

I'm with u, Mush. I not only require that they get an erection but that they come. And if it's an overnite, I require that they come several times. Usually, this is not an issue as I use regulars and they know what I expect and I am very clear when booking the first date.

 

I also mostly agree with CT Dick that the client who posted this shouldn't have been questioned as to whether he was the culprit for the non-climax. I do expect a good escort to get hard and cum on his own but acknowledge that a client's behavior or condition might make this difficult or impossible.

 

thanks,

jizz

 

P.S.: Jeez, mush and dick, we're all from Connecticut.

[Guest Kevin 2]

I have been with only one escort that had this problem. I like you felt that somehow it was my fault. I had described myself exactly to the escort so I know there was no surprise when he saw me (I'm not bad looking or fat if that's what you are thinking, just average looking guy I had paid for 2 hours. He stayed the entire two hours of which he was hard only 2 minutes. I felt like I had wasted my money and I was upset with myself for not ending the meeting early and asking for an hours rate rather than paying for the two hours. IMHO it surprises me that the escort didn't offer a lower rate since he could not deliver. I do understand that guys have an off day every now and then. If this was to ever happen to me again I would politely end the meeting early. BTW I since have given alot of thought to what happened and I have come to the conclusion that his being unable to get hard has nothing to do with me

[Guest bluboy]

Any man will get hard with the right BJ! Get some steamy porn out, read up on your BJ skills or ask the escort how he likes to be serviced. Get down on your knees in reverence, flex those throat muscle, make sure your mouth is moist and get to work! Use all the tools at your disposal ensuring good suction and release. Think ice cream cone and lollipop alternatively. Take it all in. If he is into communication..try saying all those nasty things with his piece in your mouth--that will get him hot and bothered. Contrasting sensations is also a good remedy like an ice cube on the balls or the area between the balls and the anus while you are keeping the shaft warm in your mouth. And if all else fails, i keep a little vibrator on hand and place that between the balls and anus while you do your work and you will get the attention that you justly deserve. Blu

[Guest ChicagoCorey]

And for God's sake, be careful with the teeth

 

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[Guest]

>I'm constantly suprised by the #

>of escorts who can't maintain

>an erection. I've done duo's

>with several who have had

>this problem.

>Viagra, a possible solution to this

>problem, does however pose some

>other issues.

>If someone takes viagra when there

>is no medical reason, there

>is the potential for long

>term damage which could cause

>erectile disfunction in the future.

>At least that is my

>understanding.

>I'm sure the occasional use is

>fine, but I wouldn't recommend

>it on a daily

>basis.

>any doctors want to add to

>this?

 

There's no medical reason that Viagra use should worsen erectile function over time. In fact, it reduces blood pressure and protects the epithelium, so it might improve erectile function over time, although this has yet to be proven. You know, use it or lose it. Things which damage blood vessels' epithelium, such as high blood pressure, diabetes, and blood-pressure increasing drugs (meth, etc.) tend to worsen erectile function.

 

My personal opinion is that an escort who advertizes as a top or versatile should offer some compensation (at least $25 off), just as a matter of good business, if he can't perform. That goes double if the reason he can't perform is prior activity with another client.

[Guest CTMUSH]

We should share "war" stories. I can't seem to find an escort locally (SW CT). Bringing them out from NY can be expensive and a lot of guys just don't want to take the time. I have a regular who I love dearly, but sometimes would like to experiment. Any suggestions CT boys?

[CT Dick]

Mush, I'm in SW CT also. I've got reviews of some boys that I really like. Jon, in particular, is great.

 

Who is your regular? Has he been reviewed.

 

[You don't have an email listed in you profile. Email me.]

[Guest CTMUSH]

Oh yes, he has been reviewed and lately has become more active on this site (hopefully not to my chagrin)...the gorgeous, loveable, hot Jason Coxx.

[Guest CTMUSH]

CT DICK, should have read Jon's review first but.... I do remember seeing the review. I do appreciate the recommendation however I prefer to be the top.

[Guest jizzdepapi]

hey mush and dick:

 

in new haven. DICK: Alex still advertises in New Haven Advocate (Fairfield County Weekly?) old ad that he prepaid or still escorting? thought u said he retired on graduation.

 

also interested in Charlie (pretty blond bottom but i have other plans for that boy). used to advertise in Metroline with/pic but ad stopped several months ago and his 800 number no longer works. any info?

 

thanks,

jizz

 

p.s.: either of u know any hot latinos working in this area?

[Guest CTMUSH]

Jizz, saw Scorpio from NY a few times. Nice guy, very hot, and he was willing to come out to CT for a reasonable fee. You can email me on CTMUSH@EXCITE.com also.

[Matt_Vancouver]

Mush it's good to see you posting, it's been forever.

Might I recomend rick monroe? fun fun fun, don't know if he can make it out to Ct but I think you'd like him.

matt(frotaging my way to a city near you)

http://go.to/mattsplace

matt_escort@yahoo.com

[Guest CTMUSH]

How could I be so remiss - guys save your pennies (????) and treat yourself to the one and only Matt from Vancouver. Definitely an experience to treasure. Love you Matt, hope your well. And oh yes, have been with the beautiful one - Mr Rick Munroe. Some trivia - he was my first overnight about 2 years ago. I'm a late bloomer but what a first experience. Also, if you have read some recent posts, he and Jason Coxx are teaming up for 3somes. As Jason would say - "OH MY GOD". Hopefully that duo will be in my near future.

[Guest kamikaze483]

I would like to add a few, hopefully regarded as tasteful remarks on this issue. I am an escort in Georgia, and I might be able to provide a little bit of a different viewpoint on this issue.

 

While, as escorts, we understand our responsibility to entertain and satisfy the client (and getting a woodie certainly isn't asking too much), the client needs to understand that he is dealing with a human being, with a human body. Mr. Happy is just not so quick to respond at times, for almost every escort. I have fortunately never dealt with that issue with a client, but honestly I have dealt with it in personal relationships from time to time (quite rare, indeed, but you never know).

 

You must understand that being an escort is a full time, on-call profession, at least for some, and that means being pulled away from the affairs of life to, as we call it, "pull a trick."

 

As in most cases, the client calling provides merely a few hours, or even a few minutes notice before the escort is expected to arrive. Many times, when working for a service, the agency has no idea where the escort is, or what they happen to be involved at the time the call comes in. Myself, for sure, and I would venture to wager that most professional male escorts makes every effort to accept the call, not merely for the money, but also out of deference to the agent or agency for whom they work.

 

There are times when, as an escort, all you can do is the "best you can." If I choose to accept a call, and all is well upon my arrival, then I promise to do all I can to satisfy the paying client. If such complications, such as the erection issue arise, then that, in my opinion is part of the game? What do ya'll think?

 

Understanding that my time is certainly not inexpensive, and also understanding that the client works very hard, surely, for the money they are choosing to spend, I would argue that these problems are going to occur occasionally when dealing with people. An escort is a PERSON that you are hiring, and they are choosing to share with you a very intimate portion of themselves, even though they are charging.

 

It takes a lot of guts, and emotional turmoil, from time to time, to be able to sell these very personal services. This is not, by any fathomable stretch of the imagination, an easy profession to have chosen, but we, as escorts, have chosen to explore this due to the overwhelming market for us here in the United States and worldwide.

 

You are not, please understand, purchasing merchandise or lawn care service. You have to understand that many times, because we are people, and we have lives, there are going to be things in our own lives that might prevent us from performing to our normal standards of excellence when hired on the spur of the moment.

 

In those cases, we are going to do our very best to provide you with the services that you are paying for, but we also need for those clients to understand that they are, in fact, pulling us away from our everyday lives on quite short notice. We, again, as agency escorts, have no idea when a call may come in requiring us to respond promptly. And in the same light, you, as clients, truly have no idea from where your escort is coming and what they were doing when the "trusty pager" alerted them. This is all part of the game, guys. The possibility of dissapointment, or being cheated, lies not only with the client, but with the escort as well.

 

When going on a call, we must determine intelligently upon arrival at the clients location, whether or not we feel that we are in a safe situation. We have to, then, remember to abide by the agency's rules and expectations (such as a "check-in" phone call or a disclaimer that much be addressed, or such as that). Finally, the responsibility remains with the escort to do his best to perform the services for which he was hired to the best of his ability. And, finally, if it wasn't taken care of up front, we must deal with the money issue and collecting on that to ensure that we were properly compensated, yet we must try our damndest to do so without sacrificing our personal "classiness," being crude or tacky, or insulting the client.

 

There are an unlimited number of scenarios that could easily occur on each and every call- with erectile disfunction being one of many. The escort, if he is in fact professional, is going to do everything in his power to obtain an erection in order to please or satisfy the client. But if he is unable to do this, my opinion is that the client should remember that the escort is human, continue with the duration of the scheduled time, and pay the escort what you originally agreed to pay.

 

You may or may not choose to hire that same escort again, but as as a client with integrity and class, I would hope that you would not mistreat or insult the escort over something about which he is, undoubtedly, adequately humiliated.

 

Guys, the bottom line is this. The escort industry is a unique collaboration of people. Humans who are not perfect, but most of us strive to at least act like we are with our clients. As with anything, shit happens! There is nothing we can do to prevent some of these things.

 

Read your escorts reviews, and trust them to be professional and qualified to meet your needs. And if it turns out that all is not quite perfect, go ahead and treat them kindly and find some way to write it off or something, with the understanding that people and their bodies are unpredictable.

 

Build a bridge and get over it!! Forgive and forget!! And hope, cause hoping is all you can do, that it works out better for you the next time, because, I assure you, there are some wonderful and beautiful, and classy young men out there that are anxious and willing to provide you with something you have a hard time providing for yourself.

 

Give us a break if we screw up, or if hormones don't work as we would have wanted. Keep checking the reviews and watch out for those who completely neglect to provide the services requested. Those are the ones lacking integrity, whether they can "get it up" or not.

 

If you read this far, thanks, and I would welcome any responses via email or message board.

 

Thanks,

Scott

[+ Charlie]

I recently hired escorts on back to back nights. The first one was rock hard through the entire evening, the other was not, yet I enjoyed my time with the second one much more. I admit to being somewhat disappointed if an escort never seems to get aroused, but the quality of the overall experience is more important to me than just good wood. I am much more upset if I can't get it up.

[Guest kamikaze483]

I'm an Escort here. Check out the other book I wrote on here earlier. I will be shorter this time. Given that you did, in fact, make your plans well ahead of time, and given that those escorts surely had enough time to ensure that they would be proficient, it seems to me that they did not act professionally. As I wrote in my novel <grin> on this same thread, there are reasons and understandable excuses, in my opinion, for an escort that cannot comply with the most simple of expectations. There are no excuses, however, to cast aside a previously arranged engagement with a paying client to "get off" really quick at the gym. He who intentionally goes and knowingly depletes his reservoir immidiately prior to meeting with a client who has been kind and courteous enough to prearrange the encounter, has no excuse for his inability to perform. Those two escorts screwed up majorly in what I call "escort etiquette." There is a right way and a wrong way to indulge yourself in the opportunities available for male escorts right now. You are either legit or you aren't. Mistakes should be tolerated, and forgotten, but these problems that occured due to something the escort knowingly did is highly irresponsible. Again, this coming from another escort.

 

Feel free to email me. If you were interested, I'm sure I could show you first hand how a professional escort should and will act and perform.

 

Thanks,

Scott