Billy Brandt - Big Messy Bottom?

[Guest 7Zach]

I'm leaving if you don't stop making fun of boxes.

[Guest AIM]

Uh ...Duh! Screaming Black Church Lady is offensive! Try "Very Vocal African-American Spiritual Lady." You have to admit, that does sound a lot better. :-)

[Bilbo]

This is pure conjecture and while I have traded a couple of notes with Shadow, I have no idea of whether it is true or not, and I have already posted it on another thread that came out of this one:

 

Perhaps Shadow is Black, perhaps his Mother might be describable by this phrase, perhaps she died within the last year, certainly all of this hit the fan on Mother's Day.

 

Pure conjecture, but until another suggestion is forwarded that is shown to be truer and/or more aprospos, I will stand by it in my best Sherlockian manner.

[Guest shadow]

what happened in this thread hurt me more than the times people called me a nigger

[+ Lucky]

Why?

[Donnie]

Shadow, as Beercan Thick posted in #21 above:

 

"Shadow-no offense, but c'mon man, lighten up, it was a joke and probably would have been forgotten by now if you didn't keep bringing it up."

 

Why do you keep bringing it up? If the intent is to enlighten us as to the insensitivity of the original post, your insistence on mystery & histrionics does not serve you well.

[Guest shadow]

> "Shadow-no offense, but c'mon man,

>lighten up, it was a

>joke and probably would have

>been forgotten by now if

>you didn't keep bringing it

>up."

 

 

dam you

[Guest shadow]

>Why do you keep bringing it

>up? If the intent

>is to enlighten us as

>to the insensitivity of the

>original post, your insistence on

>mystery & histrionics does not

>serve you well.

 

what everyone said after the original post hurt me much more than the original post

 

dam you

[Guest jizzdepapi]

drama queen?

 

shadow:

 

whether or not something is really bothering u (i am beginning to doubt it, something about ur responses just instinctively don't seem right), i believe u are a drama queen and playing a victim role to its max.

 

please say what's on ur mind in 25 words or MORE. i don't mean to be unkind but this kind of behavior is only designed to draw attention to urself without stating what is really going on.

 

these meaningless posts are tiresome, if u ask me.

 

jizz

[Guest jizzdepapi]

LEST WE FORGET...

 

WHY WE ARE HERE!!!

 

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[Guest LAbuyer]

I think deleting this thread is a great idea. As one that has just read most of them, PLEASE save everyone from reading these, I've never read one that is quite this stupid and melodramatic. Save future readers!

[Guest LAPrada]

RE: LEST WE FORGET...

 

Drama Queen, Racist, and Hypocrite. Please refrain from using the "N" word... it's ugly. Just because you're black does NOT allow you to use disgusting words such as that.

 

"Dam(n) you"... that says it all.

 

Shadow... if you get hurt so much by this thread, WHY do you keep coming back? Shall I add "clueless" to your barrage of accolades?

[Guest trekker]

shadow,

since you can't hear me saying this, let me tell you that it is being said in a kind gentle tone, not in a harsh scolding tone.

 

This thread was already buried deep and long forgotten until 2:23 this afternoon when you dug it up and brought it to the top again.

 

I didn't take any part in this thread before, and don't want to comment on its content now either. But as a sugestion to you, I think you should either

A. say something about what is bothering you so much and making you keep bringing it up, or

B. let it go.

[Guest trekker]

RE: LEST WE FORGET...

 

>Please refrain from using the "N" word... it's ugly.

>Just because you're black does NOT allow you to use

>disgusting words such as that.

 

LA,

shadow wasn't using the word on his own behalf, he was citing what someone else had called him. Substituting a different word just wouldn't do, and wouldn't have the same force or express the meaning of his comment (compare: "what happened in this thread hurt me more than the times people called me a black man"? "...an African American"? ???Huh???)

 

Moving a little off the subject I don't like that word any more than you do, but it is true that members of just about every minority group use terms among themselves which are insulting and worse when used by non-members of the group. Often they are used in a humorous way, tongue in cheek. The humor blunts the force of the word, and the use of the word itself is a way of saying to each other "see, we don't really care about that word anyway. Sticks and stones will break our bones, but names will never harm us." Which, of course, isn't what they really feel about the word, but it's a kind of front, thumbing their noses at the non-member users of the word.

 

Gays can call each other "fag" or "queen" or whatever, and it's OK. But it's not OK when the redneck standing on the corner says it as you come walking down the street. The same applies to members of other groups as well, and not just racial or ethnic groups - Italians, Hispanics, Jews, Irish, paraplegics, the blind,

you name it.

 

And it's well known that African American males do use that word a fair amount among themselves, so if shadow is black, it does allow him to use it. (But, again, I think that in his post he was using it to quote someone who did not have the same right to use it.)

[Guest Fin Fang Foom]

I remember how many were caterwauling about how I should just say "I'm sorry" about saying "screaming like a black lady in church" because it offended someone. However, I stuck to my guns and said I had nothing to apologize for because there was nothing offensive about it and PLEADED for SOMEONE to tell me what was offensive about it.

 

To date, no one has yet to explain what was offensive about it and the very person who, in the beginning, got all bent out of shape is now acting irrationally. (Frankly, I felt he behaved that way at the start.)

 

Let this whole escapade be instructive to those of you who are intimidated by the PC Police. When you say something light-heartedly and with no malice, you have nothing to apologize for. If any apology is due, it's from the person who impunes your integrity, motives and "sensitivity".

 

FFF

[Traveller]

Caterwauling and impunes in the same post. I have got the biggest, most raging, chubster right now.

 

Later.

[Guest DCescortBOY]

<<I have hired Billy and he's a top all the way. I certainly do not believe everything an escort tells me. (Billy said that he had bottomed only with one friend). I know everyone is saying how gullible can someone be. Both our sex and the circumstances surrounding the evening, which I can not talk about without

revealing more about Billy than I want to, confirm his top status. I spent many hours with him and, while he does talk a lot, the background information helped when we got to the bedroom.In other words, we knew each other a little and talked during the sex about what we were doing in a way that made for very good sex. I also should say that Billy is a nice guy. It would be interesting if somone has had a different experience with him. If so, I would love to correspond by email. Billy must

not do a lot of escort work because the posting from people who have actually had sex with him are very, very few. I would love

to hear from someone else. >>

 

 

I say BOTTOM, but I can't say WHY :-P

ONE friend???? Well, if you say so. I know it wasn't Tom, but Emmaus isn't THAT small; I'm sure there are a couple other tops around.

[Bilbo]

In not one, but in two seperate places, I myself laid out a very plauible reason why it might have been in the worst of taste for you to say that at that time, FFF. As so many other things, it is all in the timing. Now you are in danger of "majorly" ticking me off by ignoring me.

 

BTW, does anyone else remember whom FFF seems to be named after? FFF in the Iron Man comic books is a lot like Godzilla. He appears. He gets a lot of joy from stomping cities flat. He goes away again. There is some kind of a quasiexplanation about ancient Chinese magic, or some such thing, but that is all the original amounts to, IMHO, a big handsomely ugly beast smashing cities flat for fun.

[Guest shadow]

RE: LEST WE FORGET...

 

>Drama Queen, Racist, and Hypocrite.

>Please refrain from using the

>"N" word... it's ugly.

>Just because you're black does

>NOT allow you to use

>disgusting words such as that.

>

>

>"Dam(n) you"... that says it all.

>

>

>Shadow... if you get hurt so

>much by this thread, WHY

>do you keep coming back?

> Shall I add "clueless"

>to your barrage of accolades?

>

 

 

You are worse than those white people who called me a nigger.

I begged all of you, why wasn't my beggting enough.

This thread hurt me more than any of you could imagine..

When I first came to this website, I did not want anyone to lnow about my race. But when I accepted my sexuality, the things that hurt me as an african american did not go away. If you looked at my other threads, I tell you that I'm in my 20s. I am young and black.. That statement by fin fang foom reminded me of my mother and others who raised me..But I begged, why could anyone stopped at that?

This thread going away with all of the harsh words that was said only made it worse, dammmit. The pain was still there..

I was hurt, and I still am very hurt. Why wasn't begging you all to stop enough dammit?

PC? You people in this dam PC crusade are the new Ku Klux Klan. I asked you to stop this because it was hurting ME!!!! I didn't give a dam about this PC crusade crap. You can complain about PC all you want, I maay have even helped you..But this hurt me.. The way you all kept putting me down hurt me..Why wasn't begging enough? Since when is begging not enough? I begged you..

I respected all of you. I looked up to all of you.. You dam insensitive heartless bastards.. I begged.. I thought because of everyone's advanced age, you would be a source of wisdom.. By reading all of your commits about your lives in these threads I thought it would give me insight on how I will be when I reach a certain age. I never looked down on anyone..I actually felt honored to be one of you..

But I begged, and you kept going... Why this hurt was a very sensitive issue for me..I did not want to expose myself to more pain by telling you why it hurt..

Does it hurt you because I told you people called me a nigger in this day and age? Imagine how I felt..

Why was begging enough?

I respected everyone, now this website just seems like one of those elite country clubs where the only time you see minorities is as servers..

When this thread went away, the hurt probably went away for you all, but it worsen for me..

dam you.. I begged

If anyone would had begged me about anything I would had stopped..

[Guest 7Zach]

RE: LEST WE FORGET...

 

Hi Shadow,

I know everyone is sorry that you were so hurt, and are glad that you have started a dialogue about it. But please know that a lot of people believe your sensitivity to the comment is unreasonable, and your continued anger about it is silly. VPres Gore told a story last year about a female singer in a "black choir".

[Guest shadow]

RE: LEST WE FORGET...

 

>Hi Shadow,

>I know everyone is sorry that

>you were so hurt, and

>are glad that you have

>started a dialogue about it.

>But please know that a

>lot of people believe your

>sensitivity to the comment is

>unreasonable, and your continued anger

>about it is silly. VPres

>Gore told a story last

>year about a female singer

>in a "black choir".

 

My sensitivity is to what everyone said afterwards..The fact that they did not listen to me even though I was begging..

The comment was one thing, but what everyone said afterwards hurt me more than anyone could believe..Its those comments that stick in my mind eating away at me, hurting me more and more

[ready4boi]

I couldn't read through all of the responses. Whew! But c'mon. Since when was this site ever politically correct? Helloooo. lol.

[Guest shadow]

RE: LEST WE FORGET...

 

>Drama Queen, Racist, and Hypocrite.

>Please refrain from using the

>"N" word... it's ugly.

>Just because you're black does

>NOT allow you to use

>disgusting words such as that.

>

>

>"Dam(n) you"... that says it all.

>

>

>Shadow... if you get hurt so

>much by this thread, WHY

>do you keep coming back?

> Shall I add "clueless"

>to your barrage of accolades?

>

 

Dam you...

 

Does me telling you how people have called me a nigger hurt you? Is this nigger hurting you?

Is telling you how people have called me a nigger too un-PC for you?

Are you going to beg me to stop?

Have you ever been called a nigger before?

Is telling you that you have hurt me as much as those people who have called me a nigger hurting you?

Have you been called and nigger and a fag?

Have you ever been picked on by bullies begging them to stop?

If I could find something to say that would hurt you as much as you have hurt me, I would say it. Maybe you would begin to understand you insensitive bastard.

 

Dam you

 

Dam you

 

Dam you

[Guest bottomboykk]

RE: LEST WE FORGET...

 

One little thing that might help people respect you more would be spelling correctly the phrase "damn you". Frankly, it's difficult to respect someone who constantly misspells words.

 

Also, if you had come out initially and calmly explained why you found the original phrase so offensive, the whole reaction might have been different. Begging is NOT sufficient; someone could beg me to do or say many things that I would not consider doing unless I understood the rationale for the problem. While there are some jerks on here, the vast majority respond positively to a sound argument presented calmly; even if they ultimately disagree with your premise, they'll respond positively (or at least respectfully) to your ideas and respect your right to express your views.

 

I'm sorry you've been so offended, but 1) you need to become less sensitive, and 2) you brought some of it on yourself.

[Guest shadow]

RE: LEST WE FORGET...

 

>One little thing that might help

>people respect you more would

>be spelling correctly the phrase

>"damn you". Frankly, it's difficult

>to respect someone who constantly

>misspells words.

>

>Also, if you had come out

>initially and calmly explained why

>you found the original phrase

>so offensive, the whole reaction

>might have been different. Begging

>is NOT sufficient; someone could

>beg me to do or

>say many things that I

>would not consider doing unless

>I understood the rationale for

>the problem. While there are

>some jerks on here, the

>vast majority respond positively to

>a sound argument presented calmly;

>even if they ultimately disagree

>with your premise, they'll respond

>positively (or at least respectfully)

>to your ideas and respect

>your right to express your

>views.

>

>I'm sorry you've been so offended,

>but 1) you need to

>become less sensitive, and 2)

>you brought some of it

>on yourself.

 

 

Look at how good your spelling is or how well you can rationize when you are being bullied.

 

I had posted over 200 threads to this website.. More than you..If you didn't respect me then, then why would you respect me now..

 

I have been so deeply hurt by this thread, whats the point of respect anymore?