Asking for a Review?

[Guest ChicagoCorey]

I'm new-ish to the board, so this might be something that has been covered in here often, but I thought I'd ask anyway.

 

I had a great session with a client last week, and we scheduled another one, and he even said he wanted to do it regularly. In other words, I'm pretty sure he was happy with the way it worked out too. I met him online (not here) but wanted to make him aware of this site and suggest he write a review. Is this bad form? It seems a little pushy to me and I'd worry about making a guy uncomfortable. Of course, I'd tell him I wouldn't expect it, but still I wouldn't want to sour any relationships. What's your opinion?

[Guest Esc_Tracker]

There is nothing wrong in asking a client to write a review. It would be unethical, however, to write the review for him, or to offer him a discounted rate or preferential services in exchange for a favourable review.

 

Ideally, all escorts should get a review shortly after opening up (did I say that?) for business. Often these inital reviews are plants, but it all comes out in the wash.

 

Esc-Tracker

[Guest regulation]

I don't think escorts should be asking clients to submit a review. The credibility of the reviews here has already been undermined by numerous revelations of false positive reviews by escorts (see the thread on Larry Reid) and false negative reviews by others (see the threads on Danny Damon). If clients are now to be pushed to write reviews by escorts who want to publicize themselves, that will simply do more damage. If your client doesn't feel sufficiently motivated to write a review on his own, you shouldn't push him to do so.

[vers7]

As a client, I would not be offended if an unreviewed escort asked me to submit a review -- particularly if I retained his services for an encore. Just my two cents worth.

[Guest Ellipse]

While I agree with your point, Regulation, I don't know that Corey was "pushing" his client to write a review. I think that it is perfectly valid for Corey to make the client aware of this site and to suggest a review. If he offers a discount, or otherwise applies pressure, then of course it would be unethical. By the way, I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the obviously faked review of Peter from Atlanta that was posted on 4/28.

[Guest andreas]

There is a difference between "asking" and "pushing" regulation. There is nothing wrong with asking a client to write a review. This site is beneficial to both clients and escorts.

 

For the client, if he is unaware of this site, he will be able to gain answers to questions he may have about the industry, be made aware of any unscrupulous escorts, and also share his experiences with others.

 

For the escort, it is an unparalleled marketing tool. Let's face it, we can't very well put a neon sign above our doorways (unless you live in Amsterdam:-)). And not all escorts feel comfortable or even have the option of print ads.

 

This site serves both clients and escorts. So asking for a review is not unethical as long as the decision is made by the client and not an over-pushy escort.

 

-Andreas Mikeals

[link:www.andreasmikeals.com|http://www.andreasmikeals.com]

703.304.2966

[Guest blankman]

I think there is no harm in telling the guy about this site.

 

I don't think you should ask him or suggest to him that he write a review. You could mention that there are reviews on this site, but none of you yet. And I would leave it at that. If he has any sense and likes you he may submit a review. But beyond that I think you're in danger.

 

In reality it really depends on what this guy is like, how he would take it. And we can't know that, and you can't be sure.

 

Just my thoughts -- others may disagree!

[Guest shadow]

LAST EDITED ON May-01-01 AT 03:23PM (EST)[p]Since I'm now a regular here, I'm at the point where I ask an escort whom I have had a good experience with if I can write a review of him. Usually I know of this site before an escort does, therefore I have never been asked. You have a one up since you know of this site before the client does.

 

I don't think that its a bad idea to make a client who does not know of this site aware of its existence. I see this as a separate issue from encouraging a client to write a good review of you. You could just ask him to write a review, regardless of rather its good or bad. I don't know.

 

There is one drawback for the escort in this case, however. A client upon seeing this site for the first time MIGHT think, "Wow, I didn't know that there were so many escorts availible! Why am i just seeing this one escort when there are so many that I could see". In that case you could lose business. LOL

 

I admit that i don't know the best way of handling this situation. There are so many "what if's" you could ask, and so many possible outcomes. All I can do is give you my 2 cents, and there you go.

[Guest LG320126]

Nothing wrong with asking a client to write a review at all. I was once asked to write a review for a 3-way and was told about this site at the same time. The escort who asked me to write the review did not ask that it be a good one or give me any input as to what he wanted in the review - just a simple request asked in a nice friendly manner. I gladly obliged.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

LAST EDITED ON May-01-01 AT 05:02PM (EST)[p]>There is one drawback for the

>escort in this case, however.

>A client upon seeing this

>site for the first time

>MIGHT think, "Wow, I didn't

>know that there were so

>many escorts availible! Why am

>i just seeing this one

>escort when there are so

>many that I could see".

>In that case you could

>lose business. LOL

 

This seems to me a rather short sighted view. The trade-off between keeping one client exclusively (a maybe at best) versus a good review posted on this site ... well, if good advertising produced less revenue, I'm sure we'd see less of it.

 

:-)

[Justice]

IMHO, there's nothing wrong with letting a client know about this site. As long as there's no quid pro quo, there's nothing wrong asking him to write a review. I would never hire anyone who hasn't been reviewed on this site and I'm sure that there's others who feel that way, so it can't hurt to get the ball rolling so to speak. Also, please continue to let us get to know you by contributing to the board. It's great to get the know escort from something other than his reviews.

[+ Charlie]

You might approach the subject obliquely by asking him, "Do you ever write reviews of escorts for the M4M website?" If he says he does, you might ask if he was satisfied and intends to write one of you. This opens an opportunity for some frank discussion, but be prepared to handle things diplomatically if it turns out that he didn't enjoy it as much as you thought he did; this also gives him an opportunity to vent whatever dissatisfaction he has with you instead of blindsiding you with something in a review. If he is unaware of the site, it would be a good way to introduce him to it, and he might consider that one of the benefits of his experience with you. You certainly don't want him to get the impression that you are simply using him for publicity, so don't push it if he backs off or doesn't seem very interested.

[Guest loverboy]

blankman, you took the words right out of my computer. This is exactly what I would say.

Make him aware of this site, and leave it at that. Let him get the idea to share his experience if he wants to, or choose not to, or anything else.

That way nobody can fault you for hyping your reviews, you don't risk offending him or making him think you are pushy (you never know how some people will react, no matter how nicely you say it), and you don't risk having him post something that says "Listen to what this pushy escort did..."

[Guest loverboy]

>Also, please continue

>to let us get to

>know you by contributing to

>the board. It's great to

>get the know escort from

>something other than his reviews.

 

Yes, Corey, it's good that you are speaking up.

[Guest shadow]

>LAST EDITED ON May-01-01

>AT 05:02 PM (EST)

>

>>There is one drawback for the

>>escort in this case, however.

>>A client upon seeing this

>>site for the first time

>>MIGHT think, "Wow, I didn't

>>know that there were so

>>many escorts availible! Why am

>>i just seeing this one

>>escort when there are so

>>many that I could see".

>>In that case you could

>>lose business. LOL

>

>This seems to me a rather

>short sighted view. The

>trade-off between keeping one client

>exclusively (a maybe at

>best) versus a good review

>posted on this site ...

>well, if good advertising produced

>less revenue, I'm sure we'd

>see less of it.

>

>:-)

 

Tampa,

 

the idea of losing business is just a possibility, just as it is possible for you to get hit by a car when you cross the street. Everyone else had already done a good job of describing the benefits, so I decided that instead of repeating what had already been said that I would add something different. I'm not saying that this loss of business will happen or that there is even a 50% or greater chance of it happening. I'm just adding to the list of possibilities. Come on, we're brain storming here

[Guest bottomboykk]

I'd have no problem being asked to write a review, especially if it were obvious I'd had a good time with the escort. In fact, I had a similar thing happen to me a couple of years ago. I'd been with an escort, and had had a good time with him. I e-mailed him later and told him it had been a good time. He asked me if I'd be willing to do a write up about our time together for the old ATKOL escort forum. I was not yet familiar with that site, and I was perfectly willing to do a write up.

 

If I have a good time with an escort, I want to do what I can to build his business up, in order to support him. And I'd also be honest with an escort with whom I'd had an successful encounter that I'd either write a bad review of him or that I was unwilling to write a review at all.

[Guest regulation]

>There is a difference between "asking"

>and "pushing" regulation. There

>is nothing wrong with asking

>a client to write a

>review. This site is

>beneficial to both clients and

>escorts.

>

 

I disagree. A client who is asked to write a review is thereby placed under a certain amount of pressure if he wishes to see that escort again whether the escort expresses that or not. What if he prefers not to write one for reasons having nothing to do with the quality of the experience? What if he agrees to write one but the escort does not find it satisfactory? These are issues he has to think about the moment the matter comes up.

[Guest regulation]

>While I agree with your point,

>Regulation, I don't know that

>Corey was "pushing" his client

>to write a review. I

>think that it is perfectly

>valid for Corey to make

>the client aware of this

>site and to suggest a

>review. If he offers a

>discount, or otherwise applies pressure,

>then of course it would

>be unethical. By the way,

>I'm surprised that no one

>has mentioned the obviously faked

>review of Peter from Atlanta

>that was posted on 4/28.

>

 

Frankly I don't think there is any way to bring the matter up without putting the client in an awkward position.

 

What do you think of the two reviews of Steve Jordan in Fort Lauderdale? Both fakes?

[Guest EvilSwine]

I guess there are people who post who've never had a person who's done some work for them ask them something like "If you like my work, please tell your friends". As long as you're not giving someone a special deal or something as a payoff for a good review, I don't know what the problem would be with asking them if they'd review you for this site. They might even appreciate being steered here. And as far as taking a chance on losing a client, if you did a good job that's probably unlikely.Better the good blowjob you know than the bad one you don't.

[+ nycman]

An escort directly asking me to write a review would definitely make me uncomfortable. Sounds too much like a homework assignment and I'd be reluctant to call him again until I had my essay completed. Given that at this point in my life, I'm not very good at kissing and telling (please note that I thank god that some of you are!) it would make me uncomfortable. Especially with a guy I wanted to see again.

 

Obviously from the responses so far, your mileage will vary from client to client. Just wanted to add my two cents.

[Guest elwood]

I have had some escorts suggest that I write a review and that never really bothered me or felt like pressure in any way..perhaps it was the way they put it. I do not review everyone. If the escort already has a lot of reviews and mine adds nothing, I see no reason for it. I don't like to be the first to review either but would if I thought it appropriate. If mine was the first review I would always ask the escort if he was ok with that. Most escorts I have been with have not mentioned reviews at all even though I have met all my recent escorts through this site. I never mention reviews myself other than to say initially perhaps that I first found their name or number at this site and that I had read their reviews. Also I never use the prospect of a review as either a threat or incentive. I would only reluctantly write a negative review---usually only if the escort was dishonest or dangerous in some way or if the encounter was very much at odds with the escorts majority of reviews. I will add that thus far I have not encountered a truly dishonest or dangerous escort...thanks in part I think to this site. My only disappointments have been a couple of "no-shows" and a couple of less than enthusiastic escorts who showed up but were not really "there"

[Guest ChicagoCorey]

Wow -- my first post and it's on fire.

 

I really appreciate all the opinions. They certainly reflect what I already felt -- that it would be cool to mention the board to some and not to others. I'll probably just stick to my original plan and not mention it to anyone (better to err on the side of client comfort methinks) unless they ask a question that leads there (where do you advertise? how do you find business? etc -- sometimes I swear guys hire me just to get their questions about escorts answered)

 

Thanks again,

Corey

 

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[Guest loverboy]

>I'd have no problem being asked

>to write a review, especially

>if it were obvious I'd

>had a good time with

>the escort. In fact, I

 

What if you hadn't had such a good time? It can create an uncomfortable situation.

 

>If I have a good time

>with an escort, I want

>to do what I can

>to build his business up,

>in order to support him.

>And I'd also be honest

>with an escort with whom

>I'd had an successful encounter

>that I'd either write a

>bad review of him or

>that I was unwilling to

>write a review at all.

 

I think that not everyone would feel comforable saying that.

Also, you are taking the two extremes. What if the encounter were so-so, good enough so that you weren't unhappy and didn't want to write a bad review, but not so good that you wanted to be enthusiastic? I think that's a much more uncomfortable situation than if you had had a bad time with him, and puts the client under a great deal of pressure in writing the review (if he does).

[Bilbo]

LAST EDITED ON May-02-01 AT 02:41PM (EST)[p]A couple of years ago I hornswaggled a client into writing a review of me for this site. But at that time, there weren't that many reviews on here of anybody. So, even though I typed it for him into the computer, after he wrote it out for me longhand, and without changing anything, I really don't feel bad that I did it. (But today? When there are so many reviews already and there is nearly no way to stop the rolling goodtimes here? I don't think that I would do it again.)

 

The review started out "It's difficult for me to think of Blade as an escort. To me, he is a mentor." How very prescient (Did I spell that correctly?) as now I am not an escort and I am still a mentor. woof

 

 

http://rainbowprod.com/bilbo

[Guest Rastignac]

I think you're right. The problem would arise if the client felt the session had been enjoyable, but was less than an A+ experience. I remember some of Talvin DeMachio's intemperate (to put it politely) reactions to a posted review by Traveler that indicated his experience with Talvin had qualified as an A- or B+ at worst.