Client Reviews - How about the Clients that don't come through?

[Guest shadow]

>

>Or I'm just going to pull

>this entire MESSAGE CENTER.

 

Shadow on his knees in front of Hooboy with his hands clapped, eyes pleading, saying, "Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!"

 

Hey Hooboy, if necessary take Justice's advice of a few days off. Hell, if you want to you can lock out this whole site until then. Anything to keep you from pulling it all together.

[Guest youngblood]

Hey Serve--do you think that it is possible that Traveler has only one "L" in his screen name because there is already a Traveller on the message board?

 

As to your comment regarding correct spelling, since when is the word "SPELT" a proper alternative for the word "SPELLED" ?

 

Everyone makes typos sometimes !

[ericmagyar]

Hi Al,

 

I agree with most of what you are saying. As to the us against them aspect, I very much disagree. The purpose of this site is to review escorts who put their availability up for sale. We all know that their are different types of escorts, those with education and those without, those who work for agencies and those who do not, those who soley stay in chat rooms for business or in hustler bars and those who have web pages and consider escorting a career, etc.

 

So if this web site is designed to discuss the various types of escorts, why should it seem so provocative to inform the readers of this site about some rogue clients without mentioning their identities? Clients should also be well aware of proper etiquette in terms of working with an escort. It is thus not us versus them, but rather HOW we should work together.

 

Indeed, that client I had written about who had wanted me to do all the work and arrange an escort and who had called back to cancel (probably because I would not take credit cards) had called me back on Friday. I politely declined working for him after I explained to him that by him attempting to blame me for not taking credit cards and thereby cancelling an arranged meeting after I had already set up the meeting with the other escort as well, he would not be welcome to use my services at all. Gentlemen, the question here is also respect. The client has to also respect and escort and not treat him like "an ATM sex machine."

 

Allow me to make one more comment about the us versus them mentality. That, again, is not what I have been trying to provoke. I have asked for stories from other escorts in order to inform clients about what escorts go through on an average basis. I have yet to see such stories. If clients see this as an us versus them issue, then we can learn nothing from this. The point, gentlemen, is to allow escorts to feel able to speak to clients in this forum and not to be afraid to mention anything negative about client etiquette for fear of not being hired. Allow escorts to also voice their opinions, reactions, frustrations, etc. with clients as much as you would ask for clients to do the same thing about escorts. It's only fair!

 

Cheers,

 

Eric

 

P.S. Let's hear from some more escorts!!!

[Guest MrB]

>

>As to your comment regarding correct

>spelling, since when is the

>word "SPELT" a proper alternative

>for the word "SPELLED" ?

>

>

>Everyone makes typos sometimes !

 

 

Duh, it has been the preferred spelling for more than five hundred years ...

[Guest EscortReader]

>Somewhat ironic that a guy with

>the screename Traveler spelt with

>only one 'L' should complain

>about an Eastern European's grammer

>and spelling ability. In any

>ENGLISH dictionary Traveller is spelt

>with 2 LL's. American English

>and spelling is not ENGLISH.

>Now where is my colour

>marker?

 

 

but grammar is always spelled with two As

[Talvin DeMachio]

LAST EDITED ON Apr-14-01 AT 10:06AM (EST)[p]LAST EDITED ON Apr-14-01 AT 10:05 AM (EST)

 

Okay guys...enough of the spelling. I know I am not the greatest speller in the world myself. I do use spell check But we all have different backgrounds and many differences that make us all unique. Some people are stronger in some areas than others. Some people are book smart while others have incredible street smarts. And some people don't go over their typos. Big deal.

We are in here to discuss a topic. Let's not try to get away from that.

 

Ericmagyar I think this is an excellent topic. I have had in the past a few no calls and no shows. There are many people out there that like to play games and have nothing else better to do. Some guys enjoy making others miserable. I have made it a rule of mine when I write down an appointment to take down the clients name and phone number (I will call the client back right away to confirm that he is calling from that number), E mail address and of course the date and time of our encounter. I tell clients (mainly my first time clients) that they must confirm 3 hours before our appointment to keep their appointment secure. If they don't I do have a stand-by list that I keep near by.

I do know that people have lives and things do come up. However, I do not excuse people who do not show or do not call at all. I always follow up on a appointment if someone does not show or call. I will even usually call that person back later on in the day too just to make sure he is okay.

 

 

If I still do not hear back from that particular person I put them on my no call/no show list.

 

I just don't think it's acceptable for a person to make an appointment with an escort and to just not show up. Especially when someone who travels like myself and has to plan out his days accordingly.

 

Since my rates are a little bit higher than most escorts...it takes out a lot of the rift raft so to speak. And for the most part I deal with businessmen and upper clientele that are very serious. In no means am I telling anyone to go out and raise their rates because of this either.

 

 

Like I said above in this same thread. I plan on having my own personal black list for no calls/no shows or warnings about other clients about my personal encounters about them on my site. I will not allow other escorts to post to my site but they can use the information for themselves to protect themselves. Like I said I will be posting the clients First name, City, State, area code and prefix minus the last four digits.

 

 

There are a few people out there that just get a rise in screwing with anthers time management. And for me time management is very important when it comes to escorting. I have an entire day to plan. My personal black list will be something to help other escorts who do travel. They will be able to avoid people who do not take escorts so serious.

 

Hope eveyone is enjoying this beautiful weekend and Easter Holiday.

 

Take care of each other,

 

Talvin DeMachio

http://www.talvindemachio.com

[Boston Guy]

LAST EDITED ON Apr-14-01 AT 10:14AM (EST)[p]Actually, I believe that depends upon which side of the pond you are on. Spelt is the preferred form in British English, whereas American English generally prefers spelled. See the two entries below from the online Merriam-Webster. By the way, the M-W version is terrific as a fast, online reference and always available at http://www.m-w.com/.

 

I first started using it a year ago when Will started contributing to this board. His offerings often contained words I didn't recognize. As someone who views himself as an educated man, I couldn't simply ignore the unknown words and I decided I wanted to have a fast, online dictionary at my disposal. Having bookmarked the M-W, I've since found it a valuable tool and much faster than reaching for a paperbound reference.

 

 

Main Entry: spelt

Pronunciation: 'spelt

chiefly British past and past participle of SPELL

 

 

Main Entry: spell

Pronunciation: 'spel

Function: verb

Inflected Form(s): spelled /'speld, 'spelt/; spell·ing

Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French espeller, of Germanic origin; akin to Old English spell talk

Date: 14th century

transitive senses

1 : to read slowly and with difficulty -- often used with out

2 : to find out by study : come to understand -- often used with out <it requires some pains to spell out those decorations -- F. J. Mather>

3 a (1) : to name the letters of in order; also : to write or print the letters of in order (2) : to write or print the letters of in a particular way <you can spell it either way> <I spelled it wrong> b : to make up (a word) <what word do these letters spell> c : WRITE 1b <catnip is spelled as one word>

4 : to add up to : MEAN <crop failure was likely to spell stark famine -- Stringfellow Barr>

intransitive senses : to form words with letters <teach children to spell>; also : to spell words in a certain way <spells the way he speaks>

 

 

Finally, to go back one more step in this dialog, the entry for traveler shows that the form with one el is preferred over the variation with two. In fact, if you look up 'traveller', it returns the entry for 'traveler'. Which, by the way, is one of the interesting capabilities of this tool. If you misspell a word, it will give you a list of possible alternatives. Entering 'travelr' returns this list:

 

Suggestions for travelr:

1. traveler

2. traveller

3. travels

4. travails

5. travers

6. travel

7. traverse

8. travail

9. Traverse

10. Trevelyan

 

The entry for traveler follows:

 

 

One entry found for traveler.

 

Main Entry: trav·el·er

Variant(s): or trav·el·ler /'tra-v&-l&r, 'trav-l&r/

Function: noun

Date: 14th century

1 : one that travels: as a : one that goes on a trip or journey b : TRAVELING SALESMAN

2 a : an iron ring sliding along a rope, bar, or rod of a ship b : a rod on the deck on which such a ring slides

3 : any of various devices for handling something that is being transported laterally

[Losgatan]

The

>point, gentlemen, is to allow

>escorts to feel able to

>speak to clients in this

>forum and not to be

>afraid to mention anything negative

>about client etiquette for fear

>of not being hired.

>Allow escorts to also voice

>their opinions, reactions, frustrations, etc.

>with clients as much as

>you would ask for clients

>to do the same thing

>about escorts. It's only

>fair!

 

Eric,

 

For me, the exchange of ideas and opinions between clients and escorts is the most valuable aspect of this message board. I have learned many things here which I hope will help me be a better, more considerate client.

 

Escorts, I hope you will continue to be as candid as you can with us!

[Guest Zach DC]

Hey Eric, it's true, “no-show” clients are annoying. The best way to eliminate no-shows is to always insist on phone confirmation the hour before your appointment. Make sure everything is still as planned and wait until then to give your address and directions.

Cancellations, however, are unavoidable. As in any service buisness, a potential customer will sometimes change his mind. He may find the buying process much more fun than actually purchasing the product.

And obviously, the process of hiring an escort has many rewards. The customer gets intimate conversation, revealing photos, and great expectations--all in the comfort of his home.

There are valid reasons for a potential client to cancel, A change in travel plans and “cold feet” are common. Unfortunately, some cancel because all they really wanted were the exchanges before the session.

When they do cancel, adequate notice is appreciated. Adequate notice directly relates to the time it’s taken to arrange the session.. Extended or overnight sessions require much more planning and dedication for the escort. A cancellation from the client should be at least several days, not just hours before the session.

It's been my experience that those few inconsiderate clients that cancel on short notice have some common traits. Most are "high-maintenence" in the weeks before our session. We exchange many intimate e-mails, lots of cyber sex, lots of details and lots of requests from them. And most have booked me for more than just an hour or two. In hindsight, I realize the cyber fuck was all they wanted.

This in no way discourages me from speaking intimately with potential clients prior to our session. I treat all with the same optimism and I encouage frank discussion before meeting. The more I know their desires the better I'm prepared to show them a good time.

And yes, this means devoting my time to some individuals who merely want to waste it. No big deal. Heaven knows, the plusses of this job far outweigh those minor annoyances.

We serve the public. Cancellations are inevitable. “No-shows” are avoidable. But have fun ‘cause hard-ons are encouraged.

[Guest EvilSwine]

Heh heh....ALWAYS proofread if you plan to bitch about someone else's grammar, punctuation, and spelling. Personally, I find that since I began posting on the internet all three have begun to fail me badly.

[Guest Traveler]

>Somewhat ironic that a guy with

>the screename Traveler spelt with

>only one 'L' should complain

>about an Eastern European's grammer

>and spelling ability. In any

>ENGLISH dictionary Traveller is spelt

>with 2 LL's. American English

>and spelling is not ENGLISH.

>Now where is my colour

>marker?

 

If you would have taken a minute to read my posting, you would have seen that its purpose was to compliment Eric's command of the English language. As I said, I'm very impressed at his command of what must be his 3rd language (let alone 2nd). "Traveler" is the first spelling I encounter in my Webster's dictionary of the American English language. I can't find any word "grammer" in my dictionary. Under "colour" it states "chiefly Brit var. of COLOR."

[Guest MattAdams]

I regard Eric as a good friend and he has a point.

 

The problem with databases on clients has been there are many manipulative and yes dangerous clients in practically every market.

 

As for the Internet some clients have gone to great lengths to have client blacklists shut down and go to great lengths to prevent people from unmasking them. In some cases they have used other escorts as a ruse to get information.

 

Although some clients pose as a threat, the biggest threat to escorts remains other jealous escorts. The others that play games are "non clients" who just see it as a game to inconvenience someone's business.

 

However, more often than not escorts can be their own worst enemy. For example, there was a recent thread on an escort only site that had a lot of comments about Hoo Boy and this site. Not one of the dozens of posts even suggested sending a donation to HooBoy yet all of them bitched and moaned if there was one problem with their review. Even one prominent escort on this site bragging about his special relationship with Hoo Boy would not even provide a sentence suggesting a donation.

 

My advice on the matter is clearly laid out on my site though I certainly keep my efforts on certain matters very low key.

 

Matt Adams

http://www.whatshotnews.com

author, Hustlers, Escorts and Porn Stars

[adriano46]

Hmmm,

 

Eric mind informing us whether or not it is true you are born in the US but did graduate studies in Hungary? You do NOT look at all like a Hungarian (IMHO), and you advertized years ago (when you were a grad student in Budapest) as an American boy abroad.

 

Just a reality check here - his grammar is GOOD because English is his native language (and that does not come automatically, I know).

 

As to some other comments here, I usually give a prospective escort my private mobile phone (as some who know me can attest), and prefer actually talking ahead of time before setting up a final date. I try never to string a guy along... and Talvin, I would NEVER do it to YOU, I only wish I could afford you - and I do not say that sarcastically... I just would not want you for under 2 hours! I have only once hired a guy for those rates... Michael Vincenzo... and he was worth it. So if the stock market recovers, Talvin... I may call you while you are in NYC!!!

[Talvin DeMachio]

Well If you miss me this time...I will be back in NYC at the end of June. Let's hope the market recovers. Ever since dumbo has been in office. It has taken a terrific plunge.

 

 

Talvin

[adriano46]

Talvin,

 

It has to be "Now or never!" as I leave for Europe in a few weeks. Hmmm let me check with my accountant after taxes tomorrow :-)

 

Of course, your little date books for NYC must be full already.