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Just a quick question. Does one negative review really leave a bad taste in your mouth? Although I am new to this site and am eager to read the responses from my clients, the thought of receiving a less than colorful review is daunting. I pride myself on cleanliness, discretion, respect, honesty, sincerity, passion and integrity. Still with all the preparation and negotiation I go through, not every client will be 110% thrilled with their visit.

 

I know that as I read the reviews of my colleagues, the hint of negativity found in some reviews (and the blatancy of others) leaves me wondering. Initially about the escort and why the lines of communication were not more open with their client (I feel it's the escorts responsibility to make sure the client is having a great time, If I'm not convinced my client is having a good time I like to ask....). Secondarily I wonder about the power that clients can feel writing a bad review, unnecessarily just for the sake of some form of recognition or jealousy. (Not to say that many negative reviews are not legitimate)

 

I say this not with resentment, its not in me to think that way. But I have experienced on a few occasions "staulkers" for lack of a better term, that have become so enamored with me that they felt the need to follow me home and/or commit unspeakable acts. Could this same "client" go home write a negative review and ruin my credibility?

 

I say all of that to finally ask, How do clients read negative comments vs. positive comments? How open minded are you (the client) in that respect and how important are the rebuttals to you?

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Hi Jason,

As far as the way I typically read reviews, one negative review does not usually exclude a guy from consideration. Of course, it depends on how negative and who is doing the review. There are some reviewers whose opinions I have come to trust and if they warned me about someone, I'd trust their judgement. Of course, it helps if there are some positive reviews to accompany the bad one.

I'm sure there are stalkers out there who are malicious and will do anything to smear the reputation of one of the boys. Luckily, Hooboy has a policy where the escort has the last say, so if someone is lying about you, it can be reBUTTed.

I have had some very good "luck" with finding guys from this site, I think if one reads carefully and screens well, that this is a tremendous resource for all of us.

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Jason,

I have only hired escorts for a few months and have done so all from this site. I have also written several reviews. I have had mostly very good experiences and only written positive reviews. I feel that some negative experiences are just "bad chemistry" and I cannot review a guy negatively for that. It's got to be tough to be a good escort considering the wide variety of clients out there. Good escorts provide a valuable service and I have met some very nice people. Most of my negative experiences have involved being "stood up" and I have learned some lessons from that. Such as, I will never fly out to a city just to meet an escort. I will hire when I am already travelling there for business. That way,if I am stood up... the trip is not a total waste. But everybody makes mistakes and plans can change. Even if I am "stood up" I don't write a negative review. But I will never try to hire that escort again. So there are no repeats on that score. If I read a negative review...it means a lot to me...but I look at the total context of all the reviews and even the escorts responses. I would only write a negative review if the escort was dangerous or dishonest. Nobody is perfect..least of all me...all I expect is honesty and respect..and I try to give those things too. To use this site as some sort of tool to gain advantage over an escort is manipulative and sick..but there are those people out there too.

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LAST EDITED ON Mar-12-01 AT 07:23AM (EST)[p]>How do clients

>read negative comments vs. positive

>comments? How open minded are

>you (the client) in that

>respect and how important are

>the rebuttals to you?

 

I'm new to escorting (as a client) and to say that this site has proved to be invaluable would be an understatement. I use the reviews and the posts on the message board when I make my decision to hire.This is probably more than you want to know, but here's my thoughts on the subject.

 

My first experience with an escort was with a guy from Maximum Escorts. They used to advertise here. On the day that I found this site, I clicked on their banner, was very impressed with their site, came back to this site and started to do a little research. My research consisted of a search for "Maximum Escorts" in both the reviews and on this board. I came across several reviews -- both positive and negative -- and several posts -- again both positive and negative -- about guys who work for Maximum and the agency in general. I made sure that I took the time to read Maximum's rebuttals about the negative stuff and factored everything -- the reviews, the posts, and their rebuttals in my decision to send them a very general e-mail about what I was looking for. I liked their response, decided to give them a call and the rest as they say is history.

 

The only drawback about using an agency is that you don't get to speak to the guy until the time of your date. As I've mentioned in other posts, I was also more than a little disconcerted by the fact that the escort asked for his money up front and then immediately asked me to tell him "in your own words" what I was looking for. (I had previously sent Maximum a very detailed e-mail.) Although I would use Maximum again, I decided to try my luck with an independent. Rick Munroe posts here from time to time and to say that I was very impressed with some of the things that he had to say would be an understatement. I became even more impressed after I read his glowing reviews. I thought about hiring him, but decided to to a little more research. I did a search on the board and read every single one of his posts. (I included archived posts in my search.) I also discovered that he had hosted a chat. I read the transcript and decided that I had to meet him. }> I sent him an e-mail, liked his response, and the rest as they say is history. ;-) (I've already scheduled my second date with him. }>)

 

They're a couple of other escorts (i.e., Matt from Vancouver, Joey Cicconne (sp?) and a few others) who've impressed me very much. Not just because of their glowing reviews (Joey actually doesn't have that many reviews), but because of what they contribute to this board. So the bottom line is, don't just let the reviews speak for themselves. (One or two negative reviews wouldn't bother me. A few would scare me off!) Let people get to know you. Contribute to the board. Ask HooBoy if you can host a chat. That will let people know what you're all about and you'll have more business than you ever hoped for.

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I think it may come down to "how disposable is your income?" In other words, even with one negative review, will someone really want to take a chance with the meeting going wrong. For me it would depend on the response to the negative review and how credible the information reads. If it weighs negatively on the side of the escort and its only one review, I would not take the chance.

 

Just yesterday I read a disguting account from the escort's perspective of a meeting that went bad. After reading about the client's disgusting habits, I really felt bad for the escort. In all of that, I would probably not hire the guy without more information because I would not want to take the chance but the escort's response did seem credible so I would at least give it strong consideration.

 

From what I have seen here, one review can destroy an escort's career. I'm not saying its impossible for him to recover; it would be an uphill climb. I've never posted a review but before I would even consider posting a negative review, I would take every step possible to try and resolve it between the escort and myself.

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Guest squaddie

Always remember,a review is only one person's impression of an encounter. A lot can go wrong, such as bad chemistry or a misunderstanding of what was wanted/offered. I would use a review as a guideline. An escort constantly getting a bad review would certainly keep me away. On the other hand, where the escort has replied to a single review and sounded plausible, if I was interested in meeting him I would give him the benefit of the doubt.

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Guest Jason Reardone

Yes, I read the same review. Upon completing the "client" part, I thought to myself, WOW what a loser (the escort I mean). Although I was not impressed with the escorts choice of sentence structure, diction or attitude in his text I did get the impression that there was much more to that story and felt sympathy for the escort. I just hope that clients that are not involved in Hooboy are as discriminating and aware of such inconcsistencies that can happen.

 

I believe MOST escorts are sincere and honest and hope that comes through in their reviews. I work hard at treating each client like they are my....dare I say "my lover" for a day. This makes it fun for me and in my experience the client appreciates the extra care to not be made to feel a "John". There are times this doesn't quite work, those are the times I wish Hooboy had a "client review site". But that's another Ricki Lake show!!!

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One bad review? Chalk it up to chemistry.

 

I've actually seen incredibly bad and UTTLERLY HATEFUL reviews of guys I've been with and enjoyed a lot. Ray in Chicago, in particular, had someone who couldn't remember his hair color but said he was scruffy and unshaven. Ray is so damn Nordic and fair I don't think he could "do" scruffy if he wanted to.

 

The review was obviously bogus, and flies in the face of all of his other favorable reviews.

 

Only when an escort has a consistently bad track record does a negative review really mean anything to me. One "off day" I can understand and overlook. When they're all "off days" I'll think twice.

 

One bad review? Don't sweat it babe. Just the fact that you're asking says a lot about you, and I'd probably overlook a bad review for you.

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I think it has to do with how the escort handles the bad review. We;ve seen many good escorts on this board get less than favorable reviews, but the ones who handled it with grace and tact made it the exception rather than the rule. It's the ones who throw temper tantrums and are rude and inconsiderate that make me remove them from consideration. It's not the bad review, it's their attitude. (See another thread just a little ways down)

 

Of course, then there's escorts like Anthony Holloway who only get bad reviews unless he posts his own good ones under assumed names

“On the fields of Trenzalore, at the fall of the Eleventh, when no living creature may speak falsely or fail to give answer, a question will be asked. A question that must never, ever be answered: Doctor.....WHO?????"

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Of course, anything is possible. A single malicious act could certainly hurt a good escort's reputation. And a very cunning calculating, vengeful person could certainly scheme a plan to ruin an escort forever. But for the most part, single capricious acts of spite are easily smelled out by the intelligent shoppers on this site. A perfect example happened a short while ago when a single "stalker" tried to trash Bryan Young. After several posts by this fraud, Bryan himself, and reputable reviewers, it became obvious that Bryan was fine, and it was his tormenter who was the problem. The ironic result to that episode was that Bryan's business became so popular that it began to affect his schoolwork, and he had to stop the traveling portion of his escort work because of the overwhelming demand. So sad for all of us who don't live in San Antonio. :)

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One negative review doesn't necessarily taint my view of an escort. There are certainly fake reviews which are both positive and negative. Fake positive reviews are often written by the escort or his friends. Fake negative reviews may be written by a competing escort. Occasionally a negative review may come as a result of a miscommunication in a real encounter, or because the client expects something the escort can't perform (i.e. the client expects the escort to rim him, but the escort didn't agree to that beforehand, and doesn't do that).

 

Factors to consider in evaluating the negative review include: (1) Is the reviewer well-established? A competing escort isn't likely to write 3 or 4 other reviews, or if he has, they'll probably all be negative reviews of other local escorts.

(2) How does the escort respond? Is the response professional and mature? Does he provide believable explanations for the problems addressed by the reviewer? Did he just have a bad day and fess up to it (I've seen escorts offer refunds and admit their mistakes--that really sounds classy)? Was it just a communication problem?

(3) How serious are the problems addressed? A story of the escort leaving with the money (i.e. Anthony Holloway) is troublesome.

(4) What else is known about the escort? A number of positive reviews by well-known reviewers will put to question a negative review. What does the escort's web site say, if anything? One escort's web site I read actually said "I'll show you who's the boss"!

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Guest Jason Reardone

I can't thank Hooboy enough for opening up such a forum to discuss normally "taboo" issues here publicly. I think that he has ultimately elevated the industry to a level that many never dreamed of. Discussions like this one and exchanges between "suppliers" and "demand-(ers)", if you will, really keeps those "street hustlers" running to keep up with us nice guys. I'm thoroughly delighted to hear the positive feed back and open mindedness of clients, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I think I speak for all in the industry when I say this really helps.

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My impression here is simple: We are really setting (or clarifying) the standards by which these reviews are used. It's not enough to just post them but to also teach escorts and clients alike how to use the comments viewed here. It's not enough to have just have the information. You have to know how to process it and use it to effectively influence the lives of people around you in a positive way.

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A QUICK REMINDER TO ALL THE PARTICIPANTS IN THIS FORUM. PLEASE RATE THE DISCUSSION AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN ON THE RIGHT! IT'S IMPORTANT TO THE INVOLVEMENT OF THE DISCUSSION, JUST AS YOUR COMMENTS ARE. THANKS

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Guest albinorat

>My impression here is simple:

>We are really setting (or

>clarifying) the standards by which

>these reviews are used.

>It's not enough to just

>post them but to also

>teach escorts and clients alike

>how to use the comments

>viewed here<

 

But really no one will ever "teach" anyone anything. "Review" normally assumes objective evaluation in a context that others can either witness or check. A "theater reviewer" has seen a play that is being offered in public. His review is presumed to be balanced and somewhat removed from a simple subjective response; at the same time others (including probably one or two of his editors) have seen the play or musical. There may be disagreement about the reviewer's opinion but he's likely to be caught if his review is entirely a fiction or he was seen sneaking out ten minutes into the show, was seen to arrive two hours into the show, showed up clearly drunk, or slept through it. Any "scientific" review needs to be double checked and substantiated, results reported need to be replicated and even then opinions and assertions may be questioned closely.

 

Here we are dealing entirely with subjective experience that happens in private. Sex evokes all kinds of emotions in people, including those they don't expect, haven't experienced before, don't know what to make of or feel overwhelmed by. In commercial sex, people look for things they "oughtn't to" -- personal validation, proof of self worth, support for self-esteem, even "love". They oughtn't to but some can't help themselves.

 

Someone who is paying may in fact enjoy paying precisely because he is able to feel empowered sexually in ways he can't in a "typical" cruising situation.

 

Also "Consumer" sex has almost everything to do with fantasy, and expectation (cock size, hardness, athleticism) informed by porn films and who knows what else for the individual.

 

Without meaning to, an escort may disappoint a client simply because he can't live up to a powerful fantasy, or may upset a client because he evoked emotions the client wasn't expecting or wasn't prepared to deal with.

 

If the client "acts out" within the session, looking for a response or reassurance or validation or "love" the escort doesn't expect to give or can't give, the client may be very frustrated or angry.

 

The problem with any resulting "review" is that the client's response may be valid for him. It may also suggest he should be in therapy. But since there were no witnesses to what went on there's no way to assess what may be written in an "objective" style.

 

As for escorts, there needs to be a balance about motives. Some really are "professionals" who take what they do very seriously and are good at it. Many more are in it for easy money; they may be fundamentally honest and harmless but they are more interested in what they can get and how quickly and easily they can get it than whether the client has a good time. Know what? Some clients just adore these types. I read "reviews" which boil down to somebody charging 250 bucks to get blown. We called that "trade" in the old days, you took your risks, but maybe it cost 20 bucks. OK, the dollar's worth less, inflation and all, but trade is trade, that's not an "escort". How do you assess that review? If I had to pay a guy that much for the honor of just sucking his dick, I'd feel ripped off and put down. But obviously there are "clients" here who are mainly into that.

 

How about the self-described "fat guy" who wants "affection"? Maybe he should buy a dog. Should an escort be able to cuddle and kiss with a total stranger who is probably not attractive even to himself (I write as a fat guy, I know). How should one assess a bad "review" by someone like that? It's an unrealistic expectation. The escort who shows up clean, hard and ready to go, and may be willing to be moderately reciprocal in some sexual acts may totally disappoint this fellow but be fine for many others. On the other hand the chiseler who psyches this guy out and figures he can get away without doing much may not be so good with someone who wants good sex.

 

The variations are endless. I don't mean to suggest reviews are worthless -- but it should be repeated that Hoo boy himself as written they should be read cautiously and with some skepticism.

There will always be praised escorts on this sight who someone hires and hates; and probably a few of the "bad apples" can occasionally deliver a hot time for somebody (after all some people who pay want to be abused and ripped off).

 

Al

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Guest squaddie

When I read a review all I want to know is:

a) Was he how he described himself?

b) What was his fee?

c) Did he do what he promised to do, i.e, kiss, be active etc?

d) Is he worth another visit?

e) Was he worth his fee?

 

Almost everything else about him, his height, weight, endowment,smooth/hairy etc. I can get from his website and/or advert

A lot of the detail in the reviews (e.g. "He rammed me so hard I thought I was going to drop into the floor below")are not necessary. I would want to make my own arrangements to do what we would agree together. If an escort states he does not kiss (important to me), but everything else seems ok, then I would be willing to go ahead. At least I am informed of his limits. However, to claim he does then says no(for whatever reason - thinks I'm ugly/too fat/smelly/too old) is deceiving and I believe if he really feels that way, since he was dealing with an unknown factor for that first visit, he should play safe and say something like "I don't always/I rarely do/ It all

depends". I would then know that it could happen but not

certain. As far as I'm concerned, I'm mainly interested in a - e above. the rest is personal to me and with the right answers to

my questions I should be able to make up my mind and be another

satisfied customer.

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