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Your experiences sound so familiar. I cannot tell you how many times I have received panic calls for monetary help from my escort friend, each having just enough of the ring of possible truth to sucker me in. The individual amounts were never too much ($100 here, $200 there) but each time I was left with burning doubt whether I was doing the right thing. Finally, I had to force myself to accept that I was just facilitating a serious drug problem, and to my friend's credit, he did not deny this when I finally confronted him. Since June, I have taken an absolute stand of providing him no cash and have actually refrained from visiting him until he takes steps to rehabilitate himself. He tried a few times to hustle me over the phone but when I said no, he immediately withdrew the request. I think our communications now are more honest (at least I hope they are). From my experience, don't allow yourself to be taken advantage of. You will only regret it.

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HooBoy and NASAguy,

 

Thanks for the words. I am 99% sure this was not for drugs, at least, if that is a consolation. I had been with him on and off for almost 3 days (two very lengthy overnights) and he does not drink, smoke, or take anything that I could see.

 

In all the panic in getting the loan quickly, the guy sent me his brother and mother's phone numbers in his home country (he works elsewhere), where the money was sent (and I have the vouchers proving they picked it up). I originally asked to send it to him to maintain my anonymity, but it was too complicated and wasted time (someone was about to be put in jail for bad debts).

 

Hoo - I hope I'm more the saint in this, but am prepared to also be taken for the fool. I guess every now and then I wonder whether the request IS legit., and sometimes it is (and most times.. well...).

 

I could tell many other stories from the past, some where I felt like the Sucker of the Year (and not for any oral proficiency).

 

Thanks for this place to hang these comment and meanderings. You are providing a tremendous service, HooBoy (and I hope your quick trip to London was worthwhile... although escorts there are pretty $$$ compared to Amsterdam and Frankfort).

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i just got chills reading your message..where is this guy from..it sounds like something i recently went through..mother and brother thing is just to weird..let me know..have a good one

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Ltnlover,

 

I am a bit reticent about revealing the particulars, as I would hate being "wrong" and hurting the guy who turned to me - if all valid. He was (is) a very nice guy and I never would have suspected something wrong if it were not for the request coming so suddenly and so urgently.

 

He is an escort in Europe... but not in the same country from which he comes... If your incident is also in Europe, contact me at my e-mail <adriano46@hotmail.com> and I'll let you know.

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I'm gonna respond to a couple of posts here so I don't show up so much.

 

First, I'm glad you found some solace in my late night rambling. I haven't been to London yet...I'm going there for the USA holiday of Thanksgiving where we celebrate the killing of the Native Americans while Matt from Vancouver is there.

 

I am not going to hire him; I'm just going to every

Starbucks until I find him and stare at him for a few minutes, then quietly leave him alone unless our eyes lock and we fall on the floor and roll around in our spilled lattes.

 

Then, I'm going to try and buy that creaky London Bridge unless it's in Arizona and see if I have can a gin martini with the Queen Mother. Do you realize she is 100 years old and drinks a BOTTLE of Gin a DAY!!!! True story!

 

My other response is to the very clever Mr. B who indicated that as a homeless person, he didn't want the fresh fruit I used to carry in my car and toss to them rather than give them money.

 

Well, sometimes those fresh fruits came with their own Judy Garland records, so you may have enjoyed it after all. :-) Sometimes you just have to get those boys and cassettes out of the car and there is no better place than at an underpass with some grizzled horney man.

 

Even though I'm only going to be in London 4 days and I have still not made hotel reservations, I think I'll fly to Amsterdam and may just move there. The USA has turned really goofy and at least in Amsterdam I can see that lovely Andreas.

 

Unfortunately, I understand Gretta Van Sustren can be seen everywhere.

 

HooBoy

Email: HooBoy@male4malescorts.com

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HooBoy,

 

Londond is terrific to visit, with a lot to see and do (and guys to SEE and DO :-) ) IF you bring lots of those wonderful US $ which are so valuable over against the Euro. But you probably know this already.

 

Amsterdam, is of course, very nice (and reasonable again thanks to the devalued Euro), and the guys are also terrific, and the saunas memorable, and the sex clbs and bars wild... and it's just across the water.

 

The weather in both places is pretty wet: make sure you pack your rubbers - both kinds.

 

And the Queen Mum, while laid up now with a cracked collarbone, has survived a century thanks to BEEFEATER (or whatever brand she finds in the cabinet). I guess you heard the joke of the time she rang for her evening gin, and none of the butlers answered. She rang a second time... and still no answer. Finally she picked up the phone and called the kitchen and announced "I don't know about all you quenns, but this old queen wants her gin, NOW!"

 

Thanks for telling me that "STARBUCKS" is where I can cruise for some upscale escorts... Do they come with extra latte?

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Wow all these posts to my thread. Am suprised. Thanks for all

the advice. Latest update. I have stayed clear of this guy.

Well he called me. Said he had not seen me online for a while

and wanted to know if i was ok. God my head says stay far away

from this user,but my heart is saying something different.

Confused as always. There is so much to this melodrama I could

write a book! Still have no idea what to do other than lay

low for a while.My wallet is about empty,and I don't want my

soul taken next!

Any thoughts for this unnerved mess?

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Hey Pex - quite a quandary.

 

Why don't you go for broke - talk to him you about your feelings for him, suggest to the escort that you want to see him as a friend, outside of the client/escort relationship - without a fee. If he just saw you for the client aspect, he'll run fast. You'll still have to deal with your heart, but at least you will find some sort of closure. And if he doesn't drop you...:-)

 

My thoughts from the west coast at 5:09 AM.

 

A.

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LAST EDITED ON Nov-10-00 AT 10:20AM (EST)[p]pex4me

 

Looks like your not really ready to close this chapter...

 

 

>... God my head

>says stay far away

>from this user,but my heart is

>saying something different.

...

> Still have no

>idea what to do other

>than lay

>low for a while.

 

I don't think laying low will solve your problem unless you are hoping that he'll lose interest and just go away -- which could happen but maybe not.

 

SO follow Allan's advice -- confront this fellow and tell him that you have become emotionally involved with him and you want a normal relationship, each of you on an equal and independent (economic) footing, and that you can no longer see him on a client/escort basis. Be wary of any quick acceptance on his part -- this is a serious issue and should take some time to consider unless he has been head-over heels in love with you the whole time, which I think you would have picked up on... If he is honest and disinterested it should send him running in the opposite direction. In the end, pay attention to his actions, not his words -- words come easy.

 

Be careful.

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MrB, Alan and Tampa,

 

You are right, as always, but the hardest part is getting through the separation or detatchment phase. I guess it has a lot to do with our own self-esteem (or lack of?), and the need for affection when one is closeted... and thinks every hug or kiss is so special (furtive, yes... but special).

 

On my own recent case, the guy has been going back and forth on his "story" and one part of me wants to believe, the other - the more jaded and worldy-wise side (three cheers for maturity?) tells me to drop him... and a recent e-mail from him kind of points me in the latter direction (his loss, and my wallet's gain).

 

As it is, he put some restrictions on any future meeting (which came as a surprise... a sort of "Me and my boyfriend together or nothing!" - which other escorts who know both of them have warned me to AVOID at all costs as the BF has a lot of internal unresolved "issues"). So... while I may exchange an e-mail or two with him... I have decided not to see him again as an escort, and the ATM machine is turned off.

 

The advice of guys here has helped me to "see" what my own feelings kept hidden. Thanks

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adriano46,

 

I think your decision is best, especially considering the latest developments: the other 'boyfriend' and the edict that you see them together -- possibly a ploy to increase the amount of the periodic withdrawal from the 'ATM'.

 

I questions the wisdom of continuing email exchange -- to what end. It's over when it's over, It's best to begin the healing and move on in life...

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Tampa,

 

You are right, again. However, I am involved in a slight business arrangement with this guy (purely professional, and in his legitimate line of work, and mine). I have an alternative source of help in the same area, and have opted to use that route... this one was becoming too complicated and too much like an emotional roller coaster.

 

One thing in all this: a few other escorts who know this guy, know me, and know of his boyfriend (including the ex of the boyfriend) ALL warned me to be careful. I thought they meant one thing, but now wonder if they were possibly warning me of other things? Perhaps. Well, live and learn, which is one of the lessons of this thread. Thanks again, Tampa, MrB and others.

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MrB, Tampa and others,

 

Funny, how the asdage goes, "Out of sight, out of mind!"

 

After the advice from you guys... I did drop contact, even the business venture, and I feel better for it (and have more money in my bank account). It is not easy to do this, especially if the relationship (escort-client) has gone on for a long period. But hearing from some of you guys, and listening to your advice, helped me to see the truth (and the deception too).

 

We can always learn... just hope future learning experiences are not so costly in the $$ sense.

 

Thanks again guys.

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Since I started this thread I guess I should tell what's been

happening. Got a call from mine stating that he tested positive.

Days later he said another test came back negative.Well I got

so paranoid I got tested too!(came back negative). he called

several times to see how my tests came out. did not understand

that considering IF he tested negative why worry about me?

Since i have told him I was negative,have not heard from him.

What's new. I have not written or talked to him either.Think

that is best. he knows where I am if he needs something(other

than $$$$).

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Turn of events

 

Life sure hands you a plate of shit sometimes. I went and got

tested for HIV. Came back negative,but then something else

turned up in my blood. Went to a specialist. the "kind" receptionist called last night to ask if when I would be home

on Friday to take the doctors call.Would not tell me anything.

Now I am a complete basket case(like I wasn't before).Guess I

have to wait this out. Some Thanksgiving...

Happy Turkey Day to all of you.

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RE: Turn of events

 

Cheer up, Pex... it could be relatively minor, like cholesterol, or blood sugar, ot there was hardly any blood left in your alcohol to analyse :-) Seriously, never worry until you are forced to, plenty of time after that. Until then, enjoy!

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