Human Trafficking Concerns For Providers

[RandyVue]

25% of of sex trafficking  victims are men and the numbers are increasing. With that being the case, have any providers been concerned about meeting clients for the first time?

Edited November 13, 2021 by RandyVue

[Guest]

8 hours ago, RandyVue said:

25% of men are victims of sex trafficking 

did I read that right? source?

[RandyVue]

1 hour ago, DanteV said:

did I read that right? source?

Sorry, I wrote that wrong. I meant 25% of sex trafficking victims are men. https://www.apa.org/monitor/2017/04/sex-trafficking

[+ Tygerscent]

On 11/13/2021 at 1:02 AM, RandyVue said:

Sorry, I wrote that wrong. I meant 25% of sex trafficking victims are men. https://www.apa.org/monitor/2017/04/sex-trafficking

The article seems a bit directed at homeless youth at risk and international incidence~ There was this: “In addition, staff at the National Human Trafficking Resource Center hotline identified more than 24,000 cases of human trafficking in the United States from 2012 to September 2016. Of those, 13 percent—or more than 3,000—were men.” 
 So, if I’m understanding this part correctly, that is approx.,  3,000 males between 2012 and 2016 averaging roughly 600 per year~ They don’t mention the demographics for this population: foster home children, boys homes,  homeless, lads compromised by addiction, immigrants on the lamb~?

 I think this is actually a good place to point out the benefit and necessity of sites like review sites, forums, provider agencies and profile advertising sites~ 

 These services raise the standards bar with regard to both Clients and Providers~
  Of all the various hiring scenarios, the ones that may have the greatest potential for danger and something like “human trafficking” are those with the least amount of accountability and transparency: street corners, drug dens, cruising areas, bars, situations that have a strong “pimp” presence~ 

 Much more dangerous and unpredictable were the hustler days of  Selma st. and Las Palmas in LA or the streets, parks, bars of NYC in the 70’s~
  People weren’t necessarily meeting at homes and hotels but, rather random, dodgy outdoor places or cars.

  There was certainly a greater cause for concern among those providers who work specifically in prostitution and off of the streets exchanging cash or drugs for a quick sexual favor~ 
 
 More recently a provider can be an assistant to a client, a travel companion, a physical love/life partner, a travel guide, personal photographer, counselor, confidant~ 
 The raising of the standards bar allows for the evolution of a Male Geisha Provider~
 Japan underwent this evolution during the Edo period where the original Geisha were males~ 

 The women providers in that time tended to lean more on prostitution by definition and a dicey Cabaret style theater with drunk and disorderly makes that made officials nervous~ They were restricted to living in largely unsafe and sketchy assigned districts where there was a lower health and economic standard of living.     
 Concerned for their safety, they began to mimic the higher set values of the Male Geisha and developed Geisha into the familiar Art~ The Male Geisha went on to develop Kabuki theater~ (simplified history). 

 I think what I’d personally like to see is a comparison study/research paper between some place where prostitution and escorting are recognized, legal, organized professions, (.as opposed to countries like the states that are increasing the regulation/restriction of safety sites that raise the standard for the industry and ultimately push providers back into the streets and dark corners where there is less opportunity for safety and proper healthcare maintenance~).

 It would not be a surprise to me if there were research papers out there supporting the idea that cities recognizing the various Adult Service Provider professions as legitimate businesses, (and who also provide licensing, work facilities, health care and a tax structure), also have lower incidence of STI’s and sexuality related violent crimes/offenses~
 The states in this country are very quick to stigmatize and oppress the adult industry. Some of the drive for that seems to stem from using the industry restrictions to navigate and motivate some political agendas: ie. Votes via religious associations that allow inclusion of religious beliefs and systems to both interpret and define the law~ 
 While someone in office gets votes, so many others are subjected to oppression and their safety is compromised/ removed systematically~ 

  So, although the article provides some information, it’s very narrow in its perspective and is misleading in the sense that the assumption is (that), the service provider community is essentially comprised of drug users, homeless youth at risk, abused children, some collection of raggedy vagabonds headed for an awful and futile future~
 There were a number of people that I’ve done adult movies with who were actually airline pilots, physicians, lawyers… The potential that this article has to stigmatize a very much larger and diverse group is pretty high~ It becomes even more dangerous when these types of articles are used by those scripting and prescribing law to ultimately use it towards their own political advancement agenda and neglect to offer more positive business structures and classifications of the peoples in the adult industry~ 
 I think it’s also really important here to understand the legal definitions of things like human trafficking, prostitution, sex therapist, massage therapist and escorting here in this country. The article really doesn’t do that. It also doesn’t explain that there is a sector of people in the industry who are not being forced into the decision to be a companion or advisor or tour guide or theater companion or bed companion with another individual but rather, they are employed and except hire under their own volition, not by force… 

  The prostitution laws in the states have overtime been formulated to control a threat of child sexual abuse through human trafficking. Unfortunately, they lump a whole group of other people who aren’t involved in child human trafficking into those very same laws.

 Who they left out of those laws are institutions like the various Christian churches and faiths that have a been guilty of child sexual abuse at perhaps even greater numbers. 
 I bring up this example because what essentially happened is law was created around some specific acts as opposed to Better monitoring of religious organizations, boys and girls clubs, orphanages, medical facilities like mental institutions and that sort of thing. Additionally, they threw a bunch of other adult service providers into the laws without offering them the same amnesty as religions and the other established institutions~ 

 These are just snippets of a much more complex situation.
 We seem to over simplify, (generalize), what the roles and value of adult service providers are/can be~ 
 This country tends to connect many adult industry provider professions to child pornography and drug crimes which is grossly an inaccurate association~ 

 Would it be so difficult to find hundreds or thousands or hundreds of thousands of incidences of child/patient physical and sexual abuse in the medical field or the legal field or education fields~? 

 Equal and proper representation is essential for accurate, efficient and effective law.

 All of that being said: Are we talking about two different groups here~? (One being the Professional Adult service providers and the other being victims of forced nonconsensual human trafficking~). 

 
 

  

 

Edited November 15, 2021 by Tygerscent

[nefarious]

Whilst we should all be wary of whether we're exploiting people, both providers and clients, trafficking victims are unlikely to be advertised on the 'mainstream' sites like RM etc. Having spoken to providers, generally the treatment of male escorts tends to be pretty good and the biggest horror stories I've heard have been people not paying (not great, but not life threatening horror).

[marylander1940]

On 11/12/2021 at 6:56 PM, RandyVue said:

25% of of sex trafficking  victims are men and the numbers are increasing. With that being the case, have any providers been concerned about meeting clients for the first time?

One more reason why the world is a better place without Craigslist personals. 

There's always going to be a first time, all clients were new clients before meeting. 

I can't remember who shared with us a story about on a escort was flown to Dubai, drugged pimped and left unpaid. Obviously something very unlikely but escorts should always be on alert about situations where they could be exploited