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Should openly gay athletes boycott QATAR 2022?


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Preparing for the Olympics requires amazing dedication and drive.  Gay people are not just gay people, they are complex beings with many facets to their being.  Some would be willing to sacrifice all that work to make a statement in not attending and some would sacrifice everything else just to compete.  There is no wrong decision here.  They should follow their heart and their mind and do that which feels most right to them. 

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16 hours ago, sync said:

If I were a person with decision-making influence with Josh Cavallo, I would tell him it's a definite no-go.

He is very young, and there will be other competitions.

That's true. At the moment it's not an issue as he's not in the Socceroos squad. However, he faces a broader dilemma. Australia has to qualify in the Asian Confederation, so many of its games are in the Middle East. In a 'normal' qualification round we potentially face home and away games in Saudi Arabia, Oman, the UAE, Qatar and Iran, and this year due to Covid travel restrictions we have also played 'home' games in the UAE. Granted they are fly-in fly-out encounters not the six weeks that the finals could involve but if he's not prepared to travel to those countries it limits his value to the squad.

I have to wonder, however, how much real danger do the laws in those countries pose to members of visiting professional sports teams. Is it likely to be any more dangerous than Russia, host of the last World Cup where there are aggressively homophobic policies and public attitudes, but homosexuality is nominally legal.

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22 hours ago, sync said:

If I were a person with decision-making influence with Josh Cavallo, I would tell him it's a definite no-go.

He is very young, and there will be other competitions.

There is no guarantee that there will be other competitions for him.  Look at all the athletes that missed out of their Olympics dream when the US boycotted the 1980 Moscow Olympics or Russia boycotted the 1984 Los Angeles Olympics.  
 

I agree with @purplekow. If I was a person with decision-making influence, I would make sure he has all the information available including the personal risks of attending and the realistic impacts he would make by not participating to be weighed against his personal goals, the impacts he could realistically make by attending in person (and potentially speaking out against these policies while participating), and the sacrifices he would need to make to try to be selected to the national team in four years if that was truly a lifelong dream.  

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2 hours ago, sam.fitzpatrick said:

There is no guarantee that there will be other competitions for him.  Look at all the athletes that missed out of their Olympics dream when the US boycotted the 1980 Moscow Olympics or Russia boycotted the 1984 Los Angeles Olympics.  
 

I agree with @purplekow. If I was a person with decision-making influence, I would make sure he has all the information available including the personal risks of attending and the realistic impacts he would make by not participating to be weighed against his personal goals, the impacts he could realistically make by attending in person (and potentially speaking out against these policies while participating), and the sacrifices he would need to make to try to be selected to the national team in four years if that was truly a lifelong dream.  

I don't know enough about Josh Cavallo or even World Cup soccer to opine on whether or not he should boycott, but it feels like the horse already left the barn. 

FIFA sanctioned the Mexican national team by barring fans from attending 2 home games because the fans used a homophobic slur to taunt the opposing team.  At the same time, soccer's international governing body gives the 2022 World Cup to Qatar, a country which makes being gay a crime.  So apparently FIFA thinks it's horribly wrong to call LGBTs mean names, but throwing an LGBT person in prison for the simple "crime" of being gay is totally OK.

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13 hours ago, BSR said:

I don't know enough about Josh Cavallo or even World Cup soccer to opine on whether or not he should boycott, but it feels like the horse already left the barn. 

FIFA sanctioned the Mexican national team by barring fans from attending 2 home games because the fans used a homophobic slur to taunt the opposing team.  At the same time, soccer's international governing body gives the 2022 World Cup to Qatar, a country which makes being gay a crime.  So apparently FIFA thinks it's horribly wrong to call LGBTs mean names, but throwing an LGBT person in prison for the simple "crime" of being gay is totally OK.

Giving Qatar the world cup was always a controversial choice specially considering the "slavery" of some of the workers building the stadiums. 

I doubt FIFA thinks calling someone "ehhhhh puto" is worse than throwing a gay person in jail. 

One more thing, the FIFA world cup was celebrated in the USA in 1994 and some of the games where played in states where sodomy was still illegal and punishable with prison. 

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