Rates Back Down?

[+ tassojunior]

Several friends of mine in Europe have said the "surge pricing" is over there and rates have come back down from 200 Euro to 150. At the same time several friends in the US have remarked that the high demand has dropped back here too and rates are back down from the 300/400 range to 250/300 again. 

Last time I remember rates dropping back was 2008 and we all remember how that year turned out. 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

It’s hard to accurately gauge this without being able to see rates posted though…

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

No such thing. 

Rates have always been on a case by case, individual escort basis. There is no general consensus- and never will be- because some clients have more discretionary income to spend while others don't. 

Furthermore, this forum isn't a wide enough cross-section to confirm or deny when it comes to what those rates are. 

 

 

[Guest]

And I thought you were talking about interest rates for a home refi 🤪

[lonely_john]

23 hours ago, tassojunior said:

Several friends of mine in Europe have said the "surge pricing" is over there and rates have come back down from 200 Euro to 150. At the same time several friends in the US have remarked that the high demand has dropped back here too and rates are back down from the 300/400 range to 250/300 again. 

Last time I remember rates dropping back was 2008 and we all remember how that year turned out. 

Negative. At least on RM on this side of the border I've seen few "new" providers with amazing assets posting rates in the order of $350 or more. As @Benjamin_Nicholas said, there is a wide range of providers with a wide range of rates. There are those who for one or another reason have kept their rates modest, such as $200-$250. But most providers are asking for $250. My theory is that those guys either know that they don't provide the best of services so they adjust their rates, or they have not been enjoying the Covid benefits provided by our Federal Government, which was one main driver of rate spikes here in Toronto. So either they are illegals in Canada, or they have not filed taxes over the last 2 years and can't apply for the federal benefit, hence they needed to downgrade their rates to get some business and make ends meet. I still see top providers with good reputation or +8" keeping their rates at $300 or more. What I've noticed is that some of the new guys who come to the market with unrealistic expectations have already disappeared, and those who remain, even if they are good looking, will eventually adjust their their rates if they are unable to have repeated clients and collect 5-star reviews consistently. In the end, as in every business, success depends on good service.

Edited October 8, 2021 by lonely_john

[marylander1940]

13 hours ago, tassojunior said:

Several friends of mine in Europe have said the "surge pricing" is over there and rates have come back down from 200 Euro to 150. At the same time several friends in the US have remarked that the high demand has dropped back here too and rates are back down from the 300/400 range to 250/300 again. 

Last time I remember rates dropping back was 2008 and we all remember how that year turned out. 

 

I remember a time when clients bragged about a self fulfilling prophecy of rates coming down in 2020... that never happened. Folks got vaccinated and ran to hire again in 2021. 

Some guys can charge 300/400 but others just can't.  Some clients swear they'll never pay that much too. 

 

[+ tassojunior]

1 hour ago, lonely_john said:

Negative. At least on RM on this side of the border I've seen few "new" providers with amazing assets posting rates in the order of $350 or more. As @Benjamin_Nicholas said, there is a wide range of providers with a wide range of rates. There are those who for one or another reason have kept their rates modest, such as $200-$250. But most providers are asking for $250. My theory is that those guys either know that they don't provide the best of services so they adjust their rates, or they have not been enjoying the Covid benefits provider by the Federal Government, which was one main driver of rate spikes here in Toronto. So either they are illegals in Canada, or they have not filed taxes over the last 2 years so they couldn't apply for the federal benefit, hence they needed to downgrade their rates to get some business and make ends meet. I still see top providers with good reputation or +8" keeping their rates at $300 or more. What I've noticed is that some of the new guys who come to the market with unrealistic expectations have already disappeared, and those who remain, even if they are good looking, end up adjusting their rates if they are unable to collect 5-star reviews consistently. In the end, as in every business, success depends on good service.

What I'm speaking of was the recently discussed, and bemoaned, raising of asked rates from $300ish to $400 in the US by many providers (and 150 to 200 in Europe). Things have slowed from the post-vaccination surge and asked prices are back to "normal". Many clients were concerned that with the huge number of fairly rich people now and providers making more off social media, rates would stay higher. 

[+ bigjoey]

These discussions always take me back to my beloved Gaiety Theater days in the 1990’s when the “older” veterans use to complain that the dancers wouldn’t do hotel room privates for $50 anymore.🥵

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

I look at escort pricing like picking the right (or perhaps, appropriate) card table in Vegas.

Some people are comfortable with $5 blackjack.

Some gamble $100 a hand.

Then there are those you never even see because they're in private salons, easily spending six-figures in a few hours.

What makes Vegas great is that there's something for everyone.

And the same goes for rentmen.

Edited October 8, 2021 by Benjamin_Nicholas

[+ nycman]

1 hour ago, Benjamin_Nicholas said:

There are also those you never even see because they're in private salons, easily spending six-figures in a few hours.

I knew there was a high roller room here somewhere……goddammit where’s the fucking secret door?

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

35 minutes ago, nycman said:

I knew there was a high roller room here somewhere……goddammit where’s the fucking secret door?

When you see people eating at the table, not stopping the game, you know you've hit the whale room.

They're a whole different breed of gambler.

[Islesguy]

As a person in the US, I don't know how to see rates that apparently appear on foreign versions of Rentmen. While I don't know when a particular escort raised his rates, but I did find out he did from when I hired him 2 years ago. I'm not surprised he did as I found him to be an excellent escort that is, imo, worth what he is charging.