Providers and COVID Vaccine

[+ Reisr30]

I was exchanging emails with a companion and asked if he was vaccinated.  Do you all think that is ok?  He hasn’t responded but I wonder if he was insulted (he’s based on the southeast of the US.

i have elderly relatives with medical condition that don’t allow them to get the vaccine. I visit them often and I am really careful because even though I am vaccinated i can’t risk getting them sick.

[Lazarus]

He can always lie & say he is. If it is important to you that he is vaccinated & you do agree to see him you may have to ask for proof of vaccination which may be awkward. 

[Shawn Monroe]

It’s not that it’s bad, but like @Lazarussaid, he could very well lie and say he is.
 

It’s like asking if someone is neg or DDF. It’s fine and if doing that gives you peace of mind that’s cool, but you can’t be 100% sure. 
 

not to mention that by asking, you’re trying to place the responsibility of your health in the hands of someone else, when: 1) it’s no one’s fault but your own, and 2) you’re scheduling an activity you know is somewhat dodgy in the middle of a pandemic with rising cases.

You can ask Al you want, but If you get it you have absolutely no one to blame but yourself. 

[Alex93108]

I was in Brazil a few months ago, and most providers there are triple vaxed, often with a mix. 2 shots of Astra Zeneca + 1 shot of Pfizer or 2 shots of pfizer + 1 shot of moderna.  I also noticed that most middle class people in Brazil are triple vaxed ( in Sao Paolo ) this was back in July!  - definitely influenced me to get 3X as soon as I got back to the US and it was available. 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

18 hours ago, jetlow said:

I was in Brazil a few months ago, and most providers there are triple vaxed, often with a mix. 2 shots of Astra Zeneca + 1 shot of Pfizer or 2 shots of pfizer + 1 shot of moderna.  I also noticed that most middle class people in Brazil are triple vaxed ( in Sao Paolo ) this was back in July!  - definitely influenced me to get 3X as soon as I got back to the US and it was available. 

Not saying your verbose, I just like that cool swirly eyes emoji…it should be changed to “OMG” or WOW.

But yeah damn, that’s crazy!! I never knew you could get triple vaccines like that. Idk if I would go to that level, but certainly seems interesting. I only got the 1 Johnson and Johnson. Plus the flu and TDap (not long ago, people on the forum were attacking me because I was saying getting vaccinated should be a personal decision). I wasn’t trying to play anti-vaxx, I was just giving an opinion on the COVID vaccine at its early stages. But…my doctor talked me into getting 3 vaccines in one day, and then the COVID vaccine a few weeks later. I was fine, but the COVID vaccine did make me run hot the next morning.
 

As to the original topic: I understand your concerns. And you have every right to ask, but like @Shawn Monroe said, you can’t technically put the blame on the provider moreso than yourself. Even though I don’t think you’d be “at fault” like he put it (not dissing him by any means lol)…I think the fault probably would lie with the effectiveness of the vaccines moreso, and your decision to see them “often”, knowing their risk and ineligibility, whether you frequented the golf resort frequented by unvaccinated Trump supporters or a sex worker who probably is on Prep or HIV antivirals and been vaccinated (because there is a correlation that HIV drugs do lessen the risk or COVID transmission).

 

 

Edited October 2, 2021 by Jarrod_Uncut

[+ Reisr30]

Thanks all for your responses; I appreciated the point of views.  I wasn’t trying to put the responsibility on the provider; I know I alone am responsible for my own health.

BTW the provider responded and was not insulted; we had a great exchange and he was super nice.

[Jamie21]

8 hours ago, Reisr30 said:

Thanks all for your responses; I appreciated the point of views.  I wasn’t trying to put the responsibility on the provider; I know I alone am responsible for my own health.

BTW the provider responded and was not insulted; we had a great exchange and he was super nice.

That response of his must be reassuring to you not only that he is vaccinated but that he seems a nice guy too. 
It’s a reasonable question to ask in my view. I’ve had one or two clients ask me although most seem to be keen to tell me that THEY have been vaccinated! I don’t mind, I’ll see vaccinated or unvaccinated clients, it’s their choice about having it. I’m vaccinated and I’ve seen some other providers put their vaccination status on their profile along with other stats…

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

I don't see why asking to see a vax card would be a huge issue.

If the provider is gun shy about personal info, you can also potentially accept any number of vax passport apps.

If this is a client's line-in-the-sand, then so be it.  An escort can choose to cater to it or walk away.

Personally, if a sex worker gave me pushback on these kinds of things, I'd already have my answer. 

 

[AresEscortNYC]

In 2021 I do believe you'd be negligent not to ask if he's vaxxed, and he should ask the same of you.  It's too important an issue not to be addressed.  If anyone takes offense at being asked, you probably don't want to be intimate with them. 

[Jamie21]

8 hours ago, AresEscortNYC said:

In 2021 I do believe you'd be negligent not to ask if he's vaxxed, and he should ask the same of you.  It's too important an issue not to be addressed.  If anyone takes offense at being asked, you probably don't want to be intimate with them. 

Agree, it’s similar to being asked sexual health status. I’m fine with questions like that and am happy to show clients my most recent test results if they ask for them. 

[Alex93108]

15 hours ago, AresEscortNYC said:

In 2021 I do believe you'd be negligent not to ask if he's vaxxed, and he should ask the same of you.  It's too important an issue not to be addressed.  If anyone takes offense at being asked, you probably don't want to be intimate with them. 

I went to Sāo Paolo a few months back . Covid hit brazil quite bad in the northern spring and summer . 

My regular there stopped to ask me if I was vaccinated and even asked to see proof  , which  i had . He had just ran though most of his savings ( he basically didn’t work for almost a year ) and was glad to see me . 

I am quite sure he would have cancelled the appointment had I not been vaxed 

 

Edited October 10, 2021 by jetlow

[Luv2play]

I've been asking providers about their vaccine status since it became widely available in Canada, which was this last spring and early summer. I got vaccinated as soon as I was eligible, the last shot being in late June. Since then I have been with several providers and asked each of them. None took offence and indeed were happy to discuss their status.

As in all health related issues, a frank discussion before making an engagement is acceptable and socially responsible. If I encountered any hesitancy, I would give a pass. My health is too important to me and to the people I am intimate with.

Edited October 11, 2021 by Luv2play

[rn901]

It's not unreasonable at all to ask if they are vaccinated. In fact, I think that should be encouraged. However, I would not show a first time client my vaccination card. I've had my fair share of stalkers over the years and don't usually give out my real identity to clients. Asking for a vaccination card with their real name runs the risk of potentially freaking out a provider who has to deal with the issue of stalking. Asking to see proof on a vax passport app that doesn't show their real name would be reasonable though. 

Edited October 13, 2021 by rn901

[AresEscortNYC]

On 10/13/2021 at 12:07 AM, rn901 said:

It's not unreasonable at all to ask if they are vaccinated. In fact, I think that should be encouraged. However, I would not show a first time client my vaccination card. I've had my fair share of stalkers over the years and don't usually give out my real identity to clients. Asking for a vaccination card with their real name runs the risk of potentially freaking out a provider who has to deal with the issue of stalking. Asking to see proof on a vax passport app that doesn't show their real name would be reasonable though. 

I agree.   On both clients and providers part, discretion is paramount.  It's easy enough to block out portions of ones passport to ensure privacy.  To those who might find censoring portions of ones vaccine passport suspicious, I'd counter most clients don't want their full names out there either --- and the truth is, one could easily show a fake (or a friends) passport if they really want to.  If you think about it, censoring your own passport is MORE effort than showing a fake/friends passport w/o alterations. 

Edited October 14, 2021 by AresEscortNYC

[marylander1940]

On 9/30/2021 at 8:59 PM, Reisr30 said:

I was exchanging emails with a companion and asked if he was vaccinated.  Do you all think that is ok?  He hasn’t responded but I wonder if he was insulted (he’s based on the southeast of the US.

i have elderly relatives with medical condition that don’t allow them to get the vaccine. I visit them often and I am really careful because even though I am vaccinated i can’t risk getting them sick.

 

yes, makes sense to ask that and also to find out if he's on PrEP, etc. If he doesn't trust Pfizer, does he take Viagra or PrEP? Science is science! 

Maybe he's just busy but if he got offended I would simply move on. Is not like you ask him for his real name or anything too personal. Many escort announce in the ad they're vaccinated and some even often to show their card. 

Edited October 14, 2021 by marylander1940

[WolfCompanion]

He will not necessarily tell you the truth, but I think it's completely fine asking if another person has been vaccinated. We have lived in a pandemia, it is getting better, but still people die every day. Also, you have to take care of yourself, family members, and people you care and hang out with.

[jtwalker]

In general, there are certain risks that go along with this hobby.  I've never seen the point of asking about HIV as I assume everyone lies.  Get Vaccinated and take Prep if you think it helps, but there's no way you are participating here without risk.

[Rod Hagen]

Definitely ask.  Yes they could lie, but he could also tell you he isn't vax'd and then you'll know.  Also, I'm all in favor of creating a culture of pressure on ppl to be vaccinated and healthy generally.

Edited October 18, 2021 by Rod Hagen

[Guest davebk]

I'm vaccinated, and am comfortable with a provider who is or who is not.  I wouldn't ask, because it wouldn't affect me hiring or not.  I normally wouldn't disclose whether or not I am vaccinated because I am completely done with this division of non-vaxxed as second class citizens.  But honestly, the reason I will answer that I am - is because I want a provider who is into kissing, and realize this might be a sticking point.  So basically, I'll compromise on my principles for a good deep wet make out session.  

[+ Tygerscent]

I feel that this is completely OK… At least with me it would be OK. I’ve heard many stories where providers and clients are not OK with that.

I offer my stats there upfront in the beginning and will do it here now as well:  

 I’ve never had coronavirus, I’m fully  vaccinated w/ Moderna X2 (as of late April 2021), and boostered with a third full Moderna as of 30/09/2021~ I carry a copy of my vaccination card which shows all three of my vaccines on it. When people have asked to see it, I have showed them without hesitation. I also have that information and other vaccination information on my global health passes. It’s really handy if you’re a traveler~ 

 While traveling, I carry boxes of Abbott Binax Covid antigen tests. There are two tests per box. I test myself every three days as I travel and continue testing for a week upon my return home. I always carry extra tests in case the client is unsure of their own status and wants to take the 15 minutes of unaccounted time to test themselves~ I purchased the kits by the case online through Walgreens. They will deliver it to wherever I happen to be located in a relatively predictable and comfortable speed. I can also pick them up directly from the store~ CVS and Rite Aide also carry them in various cities. Relatively cheap and super easy. 

 I have actually sometimes incorporated covid testing by including it with a Med Fetish scenario~ I tell them that I’m gonna do it and they sign a release. I’ve never had anybody decline. I’ve also kept in very good contact with the people I am seeing and have some understanding of their status, 2020/2021 mask use and social distancing habits.
 What I have found is that my particular Clients really appreciate my efforts to provide a safe situation for them. I both appreciate and respect their reciprocal self care and their consideration for my more vulnerable Clients~
 I find it to be a win-win.
 Some percentage of my Clientele are vulnerable and I do consider them my family and partners. So, I take as much precaution to keep us all safe as possible.

 I tend to lump that entire Client covid conversation into my/their recent STI screening~ I don’t really wanna be guessing about any of it and find out later that something was awry. The result is, all involved are at greater peace of mind where we are in a place emotionally, psychologically, physically to enjoy each other’s company at an optimal potential~ 

Also adding here: my most recent sti screening was 13/10/2021~ No concerns there~  

Edited November 5, 2021 by Tygerscent

[Guest]

On 9/30/2021 at 8:59 PM, Reisr30 said:

I was exchanging emails with a companion and asked if he was vaccinated.  Do you all think that is ok?  He hasn’t responded but I wonder if he was insulted (he’s based on the southeast of the US.

i have elderly relatives with medical condition that don’t allow them to get the vaccine. I visit them often and I am really careful because even though I am vaccinated i can’t risk getting them sick.

There are medical conditions which limit the efficacy of the Covid-19 vaccines (they don't work well), but none which "won't allow them" to get the vaccine. The only vaccines which immunocompromised can't get are the live ones (MMR, chickenpox, old shingles vaccine). 

Edited November 4, 2021 by Unicorn

[+ Tygerscent]

A client once told me that I should get the vaccine for stupidity. I told him I was down for that but, I didn’t want the live VAX~ 

[Luv2play]

On 10/27/2021 at 10:37 PM, davebk said:

I'm vaccinated, and am comfortable with a provider who is or who is not.  I wouldn't ask, because it wouldn't affect me hiring or not.  I normally wouldn't disclose whether or not I am vaccinated because I am completely done with this division of non-vaxxed as second class citizens.  But honestly, the reason I will answer that I am - is because I want a provider who is into kissing, and realize this might be a sticking point.  So basically, I'll compromise on my principles for a good deep wet make out session.  

I would not hire a provider who is not vaccinated. For various reasons but primarily because I am over 70 and while fully vaccinated, breakthrough cases can occur. Vaccination is not a sure guarantee but it's better that both parties be so if they are going to be intimate for an extended period.

[ArmyHands]

I honeslty think this is going to be the NEW NORM.  It's like when hooking up with people and asking about there HIV status / Diease free etc... 

I just think we just need to get used to this NEW ERA of life now...

Fully Vaccinated! 03/22/21 / Booster 08/23/21

 

[+ WilliamM]

On 10/14/2021 at 7:16 PM, marylander1940 said:

 

yes, makes sense to ask that and also to find out if he's on PrEP, etc. If he doesn't trust Pfizer, does he take Viagra or PrEP? Science is science! 

Maybe he's just busy but if he got offended I would simply move on. Is not like you ask him for his real name or anything too personal. Many escort announce in the ad they're vaccinated and some even often to show their card. 

Vaccination for covid19 have been available for a while, I think. So being  "busy" is not a good excuse any  more